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March 28, 2005 10:13:35 AM

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I want to upgrade the CPU's on my Tyan S2460. Can anyone tell me what MP
CPU's will the S2460 take, and which it wont.

Thanks,

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March 28, 2005 10:13:36 AM

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Parts4Sale wrote:
>
> I want to upgrade the CPU's on my Tyan S2460. Can anyone tell me what MP
> CPU's will the S2460 take, and which it wont.

If it's not fully compatible with the 2800+ MP, then it's probably
because the bios does not support the required multiplier. In which
case, the program referenced at

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Guides/amd76...

may help.

Bryan

> Thanks,
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March 28, 2005 12:38:12 PM

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"Parts4Sale" <Parts4Sale@telus.net> wrote in message
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>I want to upgrade the CPU's on my Tyan S2460. Can anyone tell me what MP
>CPU's will the S2460 take, and which it wont.
>
> Thanks,
>
Officially the highest rating CPUs are MP 1900+ but unofficially many people
have posted here that they're using Barton core CPUs (I think I remember
seeing 2400+ Mobile Athlons mentioned). It would be worth doing a search
among previous postings relating to the S2460, also a nosey at www.2cpu.com
forums.

What do you currently have and what would you like as the upgrade CPUs?

Paul
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March 28, 2005 4:11:35 PM

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"Parts4Sale" <Parts4Sale@telus.net> wrote in message
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> I want to upgrade the CPU's on my Tyan S2460. Can anyone tell me what MP
> CPU's will the S2460 take, and which it wont.
>
> Thanks,
>
>

i ran xp-m2400s in an s2460. they drew less power & ran cooler than the
mp1600s they replaced.

dr ratt
March 31, 2005 2:37:22 AM

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"Parts4Sale" <Parts4Sale@telus.net> wrote in message
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>I want to upgrade the CPU's on my Tyan S2460. Can anyone tell me what MP
>CPU's will the S2460 take, and which it wont.
>
> Thanks,
>
>

I can say positivly that MP2800+ CPUs work fine. Been running two of them
in mine, for over 12 months. Nothing needed to be done. Standard 1.05
BIOS. I did add extra 5v leads to my power connector though. See
http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=383057 for further details.
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March 31, 2005 2:37:23 AM

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<SnowGhost> wrote in message
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>
> "Parts4Sale" <Parts4Sale@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:jgN1e.125235$gJ3.19646@clgrps13...
>>I want to upgrade the CPU's on my Tyan S2460. Can anyone tell me what MP
>>CPU's will the S2460 take, and which it wont.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>
> I can say positivly that MP2800+ CPUs work fine. Been running two of them
> in mine, for over 12 months. Nothing needed to be done. Standard 1.05
> BIOS. I did add extra 5v leads to my power connector though. See
> http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=383057 for further
> details.

....and I just sold an S2460 machine with dual MP2600+ CPUs (BIOS 2.14 from
an S2462 board). Also added one extra 5V lead to the ATX connector.

BTW, for those waiting for info regarding the BIOS differences between the
S2460's 1.05 and the S2462's 2.14 BIOS revisions, I apologize as the machine
has been sold. However, I remember a couple of things:

- The 2.14 BIOS did not recognize CPU fan speed (0 RPM), but it accurately
resolved CPU temps
- 2.14 BIOS correctly recognized the CPUs as MP2600+
- If there was a performance gain from using the 2.14 BIOS, I didn't notice
it, but the machine did run great

For those not aware of the situation, I had a 1.04 BIOS chip that would not
flash to 1.05. I contacted Tyan for support and they said they'd send me a
new chip with BIOS ver. 1.05. What I'd received was the version 2.14 BIOS
chip for the Thunder K7 (S2462) board. Either Tyan made a mistake -- which I
doubt because I was clear about what I needed -- or they knew that the
Thunder K7 BIOS chip would work in a Tiger MP and decided to send that one.
In any case, the board worked fine so I didn't care. It did kind of freak me
out though the first time I booted and saw "Thunder K7," instead of Tiger MP
on the initial BIOS screen.

--
Robert J. Salvi, Ambiance Acoustics
http://www.ambianceacoustics.com
San Diego, CA USA
(858) 485-7514
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March 31, 2005 2:37:24 AM

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"R. J. Salvi" <rjsalvi@nospamambianceacoustics.com> wrote in message
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> <SnowGhost> wrote in message
> news:424a9d62$0$13884$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>> "Parts4Sale" <Parts4Sale@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:jgN1e.125235$gJ3.19646@clgrps13...
>>>I want to upgrade the CPU's on my Tyan S2460. Can anyone tell me what MP
>>>CPU's will the S2460 take, and which it wont.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I can say positivly that MP2800+ CPUs work fine. Been running two of
>> them in mine, for over 12 months. Nothing needed to be done. Standard
>> 1.05 BIOS. I did add extra 5v leads to my power connector though. See
>> http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=383057 for further
>> details.
>
> ...and I just sold an S2460 machine with dual MP2600+ CPUs (BIOS 2.14 from
> an S2462 board). Also added one extra 5V lead to the ATX connector.
>
> BTW, for those waiting for info regarding the BIOS differences between the
> S2460's 1.05 and the S2462's 2.14 BIOS revisions, I apologize as the
> machine has been sold. However, I remember a couple of things:
<snip>
I hope you got an excellent price for your one of a kind "special edition
Thunder K7" ;-)

Thanks for the follow-up post re the BIOS mod. If EVERYTHING had worked fine
(including fan speed monitoring), I would have tried that but since I need
my fan monitoring and have a couple of "within spec" MP 1600+ CPUs in my
S2460, I'll just stick with what I have. It's good to know the outcome
though.

Paul
April 3, 2005 7:43:28 PM

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"Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "R. J. Salvi" <rjsalvi@nospamambianceacoustics.com> wrote in message
> news:mKy2e.1361$e06.120@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > <SnowGhost> wrote in message
> > news:424a9d62$0$13884$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >>
> >> "Parts4Sale" <Parts4Sale@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:jgN1e.125235$gJ3.19646@clgrps13...
> >>>I want to upgrade the CPU's on my Tyan S2460. Can anyone tell me what
MP
> >>>CPU's will the S2460 take, and which it wont.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I can say positivly that MP2800+ CPUs work fine. Been running two of
> >> them in mine, for over 12 months. Nothing needed to be done. Standard
> >> 1.05 BIOS. I did add extra 5v leads to my power connector though. See
> >> http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=383057 for further
> >> details.
> >
> > ...and I just sold an S2460 machine with dual MP2600+ CPUs (BIOS 2.14
from
> > an S2462 board). Also added one extra 5V lead to the ATX connector.
> >
> > BTW, for those waiting for info regarding the BIOS differences between
the
> > S2460's 1.05 and the S2462's 2.14 BIOS revisions, I apologize as the
> > machine has been sold. However, I remember a couple of things:
> <snip>
> I hope you got an excellent price for your one of a kind "special edition
> Thunder K7" ;-)
>
> Thanks for the follow-up post re the BIOS mod. If EVERYTHING had worked
fine
> (including fan speed monitoring), I would have tried that but since I need
> my fan monitoring and have a couple of "within spec" MP 1600+ CPUs in my
> S2460, I'll just stick with what I have. It's good to know the outcome
> though.

Would have been interesting if the IDE 64GB limit issue was solved with this
BIOS...
Paul.
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April 3, 2005 7:49:44 PM

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"Miloman" <paul.milo@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote in message
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> "Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:424abba5$0$26462$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>> "R. J. Salvi" <rjsalvi@nospamambianceacoustics.com> wrote in message
>> news:mKy2e.1361$e06.120@twister.socal.rr.com...
>> > <SnowGhost> wrote in message
>> > news:424a9d62$0$13884$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> >>
>> >> "Parts4Sale" <Parts4Sale@telus.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:jgN1e.125235$gJ3.19646@clgrps13...
>> >>>I want to upgrade the CPU's on my Tyan S2460. Can anyone tell me what
> MP
>> >>>CPU's will the S2460 take, and which it wont.

>> >> I can say positivly that MP2800+ CPUs work fine. Been running two of
>> >> them in mine, for over 12 months. Nothing needed to be done.
>> >> Standard
>> >> 1.05 BIOS. I did add extra 5v leads to my power connector though.
>> >> See
>> >> http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=383057 for further
>> >> details.
>> >
>> > ...and I just sold an S2460 machine with dual MP2600+ CPUs (BIOS 2.14
> from
>> > an S2462 board). Also added one extra 5V lead to the ATX connector.
>> >
>> > BTW, for those waiting for info regarding the BIOS differences between
> the
>> > S2460's 1.05 and the S2462's 2.14 BIOS revisions, I apologize as the
>> > machine has been sold. However, I remember a couple of things:
>> <snip>
>> I hope you got an excellent price for your one of a kind "special edition
>> Thunder K7" ;-)
>>
>> Thanks for the follow-up post re the BIOS mod. If EVERYTHING had worked
> fine
>> (including fan speed monitoring), I would have tried that but since I
>> need
>> my fan monitoring and have a couple of "within spec" MP 1600+ CPUs in my
>> S2460, I'll just stick with what I have. It's good to know the outcome
>> though.
>
> Would have been interesting if the IDE 64GB limit issue was solved with
> this
> BIOS...

You mean 137GB limit. I seem to recall a parameter called "Large disk access
mode." Here's a link to the manual which has the BIOS parameters listed:

ftp://ftp.tyan.com/manuals/m_s2462_100.pdf

--
Robert J. Salvi, Ambiance Acoustics
http://www.ambianceacoustics.com
San Diego, CA USA
(858) 485-7514
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April 3, 2005 11:06:56 PM

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"R. J. Salvi" <rjsalvi@nospamambianceacoustics.com> wrote in message
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> "Miloman" <paul.milo@xxxxxxxx.xx> wrote in message
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>> "Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:424abba5$0$26462$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
>>> "R. J. Salvi" <rjsalvi@nospamambianceacoustics.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mKy2e.1361$e06.120@twister.socal.rr.com...
>>> > <SnowGhost> wrote in message
>>> > news:424a9d62$0$13884$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> >>
>>> >> "Parts4Sale" <Parts4Sale@telus.net> wrote in message
>>> >> news:jgN1e.125235$gJ3.19646@clgrps13...
>>> >>>I want to upgrade the CPU's on my Tyan S2460. Can anyone tell me what
>> MP
>>> >>>CPU's will the S2460 take, and which it wont.
>
>>> >> I can say positivly that MP2800+ CPUs work fine. Been running two of
>>> >> them in mine, for over 12 months. Nothing needed to be done.
>>> >> Standard
>>> >> 1.05 BIOS. I did add extra 5v leads to my power connector though.
>>> >> See
>>> >> http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=383057 for further
>>> >> details.
>>> >
>>> > ...and I just sold an S2460 machine with dual MP2600+ CPUs (BIOS 2.14
>> from
>>> > an S2462 board). Also added one extra 5V lead to the ATX connector.
>>> >
>>> > BTW, for those waiting for info regarding the BIOS differences between
>> the
>>> > S2460's 1.05 and the S2462's 2.14 BIOS revisions, I apologize as the
>>> > machine has been sold. However, I remember a couple of things:
>>> <snip>
>>> I hope you got an excellent price for your one of a kind "special
>>> edition
>>> Thunder K7" ;-)
>>>
>>> Thanks for the follow-up post re the BIOS mod. If EVERYTHING had worked
>> fine
>>> (including fan speed monitoring), I would have tried that but since I
>>> need
>>> my fan monitoring and have a couple of "within spec" MP 1600+ CPUs in my
>>> S2460, I'll just stick with what I have. It's good to know the outcome
>>> though.
>>
>> Would have been interesting if the IDE 64GB limit issue was solved with
>> this
>> BIOS...
>
> You mean 137GB limit. I seem to recall a parameter called "Large disk
> access mode." Here's a link to the manual which has the BIOS parameters
> listed:
>
> ftp://ftp.tyan.com/manuals/m_s2462_100.pdf
>
> --
> Robert J. Salvi, Ambiance Acoustics
> http://www.ambianceacoustics.com
> San Diego, CA USA
> (858) 485-7514
The Large Disk Access mode set to DOS still only allows up to 137 GB HDDs to
be detected correctly by the onboard IDE controllers and the reason is
because neither the MP nor the MPX chipset natively supports 48 bit LBA -
i.e. its a hardware limitation. I'm unsure of any limitations associated
with the onboard SCSI for the Thunder K7 but that wouldn't have any effect
on the Tiger MP which doesn't have onboard SCSI. 48 bit LBA is what's needed
to support the full capacity of IDE drives over 137 GB. Personally I have a
3Ware RAID card in my S2460 with 4 HDDs and 220 GB detected by Windows. I
use the onboard IDE Ports for my DVD Burner and Iomega Zip Drive.

Paul
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