Passing 2.28 GHz on a 2600 Barton?

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Hello all, I've got an NF7-s, XP 2600 Barton with HyperX PC3500 ram.
Currently running 190x12 @ 1.725, 2-3-2-6 @ 2.7. Coolings done with a
ThermalRight ALK-947U with a 80mm Tornado. Temps around 40C under load, but
what is there, if anything, I can try to pass the 2.3 Ghz I'm at now? If
anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

 

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OD2rileec wrote:

> Hello all, I've got an NF7-s, XP 2600 Barton with HyperX PC3500 ram.
> Currently running 190x12 @ 1.725, 2-3-2-6 @ 2.7. Coolings done with a
> ThermalRight ALK-947U with a 80mm Tornado. Temps around 40C under load, but
> what is there, if anything, I can try to pass the 2.3 Ghz I'm at now? If
> anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
>
>

More voltage.

 

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More voltage where? Should I up the FSB or the multiplier? Should I change
ram voltage?
"David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> OD2rileec wrote:
>
> > Hello all, I've got an NF7-s, XP 2600 Barton with HyperX PC3500 ram.
> > Currently running 190x12 @ 1.725, 2-3-2-6 @ 2.7. Coolings done with a
> > ThermalRight ALK-947U with a 80mm Tornado. Temps around 40C under load,
but
> > what is there, if anything, I can try to pass the 2.3 Ghz I'm at now?
If
> > anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
> >
> >
>
> More voltage.
>

 

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more voltage to help with higher FSB.. its the only way it will go faster.

NuTs

"OD2rileec" <od2rileec@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> More voltage where? Should I up the FSB or the multiplier? Should I
change
> ram voltage?
> "David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:109ds94qt2rfu82@corp.supernews.com...
> > OD2rileec wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all, I've got an NF7-s, XP 2600 Barton with HyperX PC3500 ram.
> > > Currently running 190x12 @ 1.725, 2-3-2-6 @ 2.7. Coolings done with
a
> > > ThermalRight ALK-947U with a 80mm Tornado. Temps around 40C under
load,
> but
> > > what is there, if anything, I can try to pass the 2.3 Ghz I'm at now?
> If
> > > anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
> > >
> > >
> >
> > More voltage.
> >
>
>

 

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OD2rileec wrote:

> More voltage where?

Processor Vcore: for the thing you're trying to overclock more.

> Should I up the FSB or the multiplier?

FSB, since the memory can handle it.

> Should I change
> ram voltage?

Why? It's well within it's speed rating.

> "David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:109ds94qt2rfu82@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>OD2rileec wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello all, I've got an NF7-s, XP 2600 Barton with HyperX PC3500 ram.
>>>Currently running 190x12 @ 1.725, 2-3-2-6 @ 2.7. Coolings done with a
>>>ThermalRight ALK-947U with a 80mm Tornado. Temps around 40C under load,
>
> but
>
>>>what is there, if anything, I can try to pass the 2.3 Ghz I'm at now?
>
> If
>
>>>anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>More voltage.
>>
>
>
>

 

[Rob]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd (More info?)

Final question here, I've got the FSB to 195 with a vcore of 1.8v but whats
the safest vcore with air cooling? Are there other factors I should be
concerned about? The -12v's been rather erratic sense the latest change.
Thanks for everything!!
"NuT CrAcKeR" <nutcracker@internationalhacker.org> wrote in message
news:B9OdnfAXIJLWnQrdRVn-gg@speakeasy.net...
> more voltage to help with higher FSB.. its the only way it will go faster.
>
> NuTs
>
> "OD2rileec" <od2rileec@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:EwClc.10154$0K.2773@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > More voltage where? Should I up the FSB or the multiplier? Should I
> change
> > ram voltage?
> > "David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
> > news:109ds94qt2rfu82@corp.supernews.com...
> > > OD2rileec wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all, I've got an NF7-s, XP 2600 Barton with HyperX PC3500 ram.
> > > > Currently running 190x12 @ 1.725, 2-3-2-6 @ 2.7. Coolings done
with
> a
> > > > ThermalRight ALK-947U with a 80mm Tornado. Temps around 40C under
> load,
> > but
> > > > what is there, if anything, I can try to pass the 2.3 Ghz I'm at
now?
> > If
> > > > anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > More voltage.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

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rob wrote:

> Final question here, I've got the FSB to 195 with a vcore of 1.8v but whats
> the safest vcore with air cooling? Are there other factors I should be
> concerned about? The -12v's been rather erratic sense the latest change.
> Thanks for everything!!

The "safest Vcore" is the Vcore it's specified to operate at.

If you have good cooling it should be able to handle 1.85, though.

> "NuT CrAcKeR" <nutcracker@internationalhacker.org> wrote in message
> news:B9OdnfAXIJLWnQrdRVn-gg@speakeasy.net...
>
>>more voltage to help with higher FSB.. its the only way it will go faster.
>>
>>NuTs
>>
>>"OD2rileec" <od2rileec@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:EwClc.10154$0K.2773@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>
>>>More voltage where? Should I up the FSB or the multiplier? Should I
>>
>>change
>>
>>>ram voltage?
>>>"David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
>>>news:109ds94qt2rfu82@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>>OD2rileec wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello all, I've got an NF7-s, XP 2600 Barton with HyperX PC3500 ram.
>>>>>Currently running 190x12 @ 1.725, 2-3-2-6 @ 2.7. Coolings done
>
> with
>
>>a
>>
>>>>>ThermalRight ALK-947U with a 80mm Tornado. Temps around 40C under
>>
>>load,
>>
>>>but
>>>
>>>>>what is there, if anything, I can try to pass the 2.3 Ghz I'm at
>
> now?
>
>>>If
>>>
>>>>>anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>More voltage.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

 

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"rob" <od2rileec@TAKEMEOUTyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Final question here, I've got the FSB to 195 with a vcore of 1.8v but
whats
> the safest vcore with air cooling? Are there other factors I should be
> concerned about? The -12v's been rather erratic sense the latest change.
> Thanks for everything!!

It depends on your temperatures - this is what does the real damage not the
vcore - but you have a top quality heatsink and fan - so I would not at all
fussed about putting the vcore to 1.85v - and cranking it higher if you can

I find so long as diode temperature on full load is under 55C I have no
problems at 1.85v on a barton 2500+ and have run it for long periods at 2.0v
to get 2500mhz - this was on a standard coolermaster HAC-V81 which is rated
to 2800+ and costs about £5.

So as long as your thermal protection in the bios and software is set to
something useful, and you keep a close eye on the temperatures using
software such as MBM5 you should not run into any problems, but just for
example I treat 60C as my upper limit and do not let temps get too far above
that.

 

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Understand the temp issue, I do, but using Winbond Hardware Doctor v2.7 at
my current speed under 100% load I see occasional drops in what's labeled
"+12V" can anyone please explain? Plus under long stress tests I will
smell something "funny" from the rear exhaust fan. Other than that she's
extremely stable.
"Hippy Paul" <null@anon.con> wrote in message
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> "rob" <od2rileec@TAKEMEOUTyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:40979e65$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Final question here, I've got the FSB to 195 with a vcore of 1.8v but
> whats
> > the safest vcore with air cooling? Are there other factors I should be
> > concerned about? The -12v's been rather erratic sense the latest
change.
> > Thanks for everything!!
>
> It depends on your temperatures - this is what does the real damage not
the
> vcore - but you have a top quality heatsink and fan - so I would not at
all
> fussed about putting the vcore to 1.85v - and cranking it higher if you
can
>
> I find so long as diode temperature on full load is under 55C I have no
> problems at 1.85v on a barton 2500+ and have run it for long periods at
2.0v
> to get 2500mhz - this was on a standard coolermaster HAC-V81 which is
rated
> to 2800+ and costs about £5.
>
> So as long as your thermal protection in the bios and software is set to
> something useful, and you keep a close eye on the temperatures using
> software such as MBM5 you should not run into any problems, but just for
> example I treat 60C as my upper limit and do not let temps get too far
above
> that.
>
>

 

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od2rileec wrote:
> Understand the temp issue, I do, but using Winbond Hardware Doctor v2.7 at
> my current speed under 100% load I see occasional drops in what's labeled
> "+12V" can anyone please explain? Plus under long stress tests I will
> smell something "funny" from the rear exhaust fan. Other than that she's
> extremely stable.

Well, that sounds like you're overloading the power supply.

> "Hippy Paul" <null@anon.con> wrote in message
> news:c79efa$5ea$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
>
>>"rob" <od2rileec@TAKEMEOUTyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:40979e65$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
>>
>>>Final question here, I've got the FSB to 195 with a vcore of 1.8v but
>>
>>whats
>>
>>>the safest vcore with air cooling? Are there other factors I should be
>>>concerned about? The -12v's been rather erratic sense the latest
>
> change.
>
>>>Thanks for everything!!
>>
>>It depends on your temperatures - this is what does the real damage not
>
> the
>
>>vcore - but you have a top quality heatsink and fan - so I would not at
>
> all
>
>>fussed about putting the vcore to 1.85v - and cranking it higher if you
>
> can
>
>>I find so long as diode temperature on full load is under 55C I have no
>>problems at 1.85v on a barton 2500+ and have run it for long periods at
>
> 2.0v
>
>>to get 2500mhz - this was on a standard coolermaster HAC-V81 which is
>
> rated
>
>>to 2800+ and costs about £5.
>>
>>So as long as your thermal protection in the bios and software is set to
>>something useful, and you keep a close eye on the temperatures using
>>software such as MBM5 you should not run into any problems, but just for
>>example I treat 60C as my upper limit and do not let temps get too far
>
> above
>
>>that.
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

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"od2rileec" <od2rileec@nospampleaseyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Understand the temp issue, I do, but using Winbond Hardware Doctor v2.7 at
> my current speed under 100% load I see occasional drops in what's labeled
> "+12V" can anyone please explain? Plus under long stress tests I will
> smell something "funny" from the rear exhaust fan. Other than that she's
> extremely stable.

Something somewhere is using power - the +12v and +5v rails are connected in
the power supply (except maybe in really good psu's) and an electrical load
is either being put on/taken off the +5v rail which is causing the +12v to
fluctuate - or there is a direct load on the +12v rail. This load may be
something like the computer using it's swap file and moving hundreds of
megabytes about, or a component starting up and stopping due to power
saving. PSUs do sometimes fluctuate - there are prescribed limits of 10%
tolerance for the +12v rail. However, by overclocking the cpu you are
increasing the power consumption in the cpu by several watts - this also
draws on the +12v rail.

If the smell is a sort of electrical burning smell - it is fairly obvious
what it is - something somewhere is getting rather hot - if your psu is
functioning as a miniature fan heater, then you are overloading it and it is
probably just a matter of time before something (windings) give up the
struggle - when I first seriously overclocked my Barton 2500+ I killed a
cheap 300w psu in about 10 minutes - it was throwing out lots of heat - but
no smell. I would not recommend anything less that a 400w psu - but this
depends on what you have in there - eg lots of hard disks and optical drives
and monstrous graphic cards all take power.

Have you worked out what your loading is on the psu - there are a couple of
calculators out on the web that can work out what power you are
using/maximum demand. These days it is common for an older/cheap psu not to
have enough power on the +12v rail - not all psu are created equal by a long
way.