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Anonymous
May 3, 2005 11:01:36 PM

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0.96
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IMPORTANT: As of MAME 0.96, the source code license has changed.
Please see the new file license.txt for details. The new license
is based off the BSD license, with additional prohibitions against
commercial usage. See http://mamedev.com for additional details.


Changes
-------
Added step in/out support to TMS34010 disassembler. [Aaron Giles]

Added explanation that left/right joystick wiggle works on "OK"
screens. [Aaron Giles]

Fixed -dual_lightguns option. [Jonathan Lunman]

Hooked up Pocket Gal Deluxe bootleg graphics ROMs. [David Haywood]

Removed abort() calls from v60 CPU driver. [Brad Oliver]

Fixed collision detection in bioatack, added missing RAM to the
Taito SJ memory map. [Peter Sealy]

Decrypted Calorie Kun, and cleaned up sega Z80 encryption code.
[Nicola Salmoria]

Some improvements to Dream World. [David Haywood]

Fixed implementation of memory_get_op_ptr(). [Nathan Woods]

Fixed coin inputs and dip-switches in joinem. [Pierpaolo Prazzoli]

Fixed problem with beatmania games on the Mac. [Brad Oliver]

Updated Vendetta chip frequencies to match real PCB. [Mamesick]

Some improvements to Turbo Sub. [Philip Bennett]

Fixed endianness problems in the Sega System 32 games ROM loading.
[Brad Oliver]

A number of ST-V improvements [Angelo Salese]
* Fixed a DSP bug which was causing Treasure Hunt to hang. The game
is working but with graphics artifacts because of other DSP bugs...
* Added the possibility on the VDP1 to double the horizontal
resolution under some circumstances.This affects Astra Super Stars,
Virtual Mahjong & Virtual Mahjong 2.
* Removed the Baku Baku Animal hack since it's not needed anymore
(dunno when this was fixed).
* Fixed a bug in the A-Bus protection handling for games which have
rom data mapped here.
* Made some small fixes to the SCU.
* Added a quick hack to avoid the sound reading "hang",disabled
by default.
* There's also some WIP code for the protection in astrass & ffreveng.

Fixed endianness problems in the Eolith games. [Brad Oliver]

Fixed graphics in Joyful Road. [QWERTY]


New games added or promoted from NOT_WORKING status
---------------------------------------------------
X the Ball [Aaron Giles]
Torus [Pierpaolo Prazzoli]
Pocket Gal Deluxe [Bryan McPhail]
Boogie Wings [Bryan McPhail]
Rohga Armour Force [Bryan McPhail]
Schmeiser Robo [Bryan McPhail]
Treasure Hunt [Angelo Salese]
Pro Mahjong Kiwame S [Angelo Salese]


New clones added
----------------
Slick Shot (V1.6) [Aaron Giles]
Rong Rong (Europe) [Pierpaolo Prazzoli]
Golden Tee 3D Golf Tournament (v2.11) [Brian Troha]
Survival Arts (World) [Brian Troha]
Progressive Music Trivia (Question set 2) [Pierpaolo Prazzoli]
Rave Racer (Rev. RV1, Japan)
Ridge Racer (Rev. RR2, World)
Ridge Racer 2 (Rev. RRS2, US)
Ridge Racer 2 (Rev. RRS1, Ver.B, Japan)
Atomic Punk (US) [Brian Troha]
Lup Lup Puzzle (version 2.9 / 990108) [Brian Troha]


New games marked as GAME_NOT_WORKING
------------------------------------
Double Wings [Bryan McPhail]
Lock-On [Philip Bennett]

Cheers,
Terra Cresta

PC Arcade
http://www.pcarcade.tv

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Anonymous
May 4, 2005 4:27:37 AM

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Great. The minute I finish downloading the .95 romset, there's a new
one out. Typical.
Anonymous
May 4, 2005 10:12:25 PM

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On Tue, 03 May 2005 19:01:36 +0100, Terra Cresta wrote:
> IMPORTANT: As of MAME 0.96, the source code license has changed.
> Please see the new file license.txt for details. The new license
> is based off the BSD license, with additional prohibitions against
> commercial usage. See http://mamedev.com for additional details.

It's a real shame that they didn't go with a truly free license. I fail
to even see why they made the change at all. Of course I can fully
understand the trouble allowing commercial use could bring them, but I
don't think avoiding a potentially angry company is a good enough reason
to compromise freedom. Besides its not like MAME has even remotely
questionable legality so what do they care if someone else gets in trouble
for selling it with roms?
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Anonymous
May 5, 2005 1:03:40 AM

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> It's a real shame that they didn't go with a truly free license. I fail
> to even see why they made the change at all. Of course I can fully
> understand the trouble allowing commercial use could bring them, but I
> don't think avoiding a potentially angry company is a good enough reason
> to compromise freedom. Besides its not like MAME has even remotely
> questionable legality so what do they care if someone else gets in trouble
> for selling it with roms?

Do you *really* think that the source of MAME is only to use it playing
games?
Don't forget that there is tons of proc. emulators (and a debugger for all
this procs.) in it.
Software compagnies could use this code for their own purpose and sale their
program
as if it were their own code.
Think about MESS... it is a mame derivated and free. Without any licence
MESS developpers could sell it without any "coins" to MAME developpers ;-)
Anonymous
May 5, 2005 6:02:14 PM

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On Wed, 04 May 2005 21:03:40 +0200, Tsunoo Rhilty wrote:

>> It's a real shame that they didn't go with a truly free license. I fail
>> to even see why they made the change at all. Of course I can fully
>> understand the trouble allowing commercial use could bring them, but I
>> don't think avoiding a potentially angry company is a good enough reason
>> to compromise freedom. Besides its not like MAME has even remotely
>> questionable legality so what do they care if someone else gets in trouble
>> for selling it with roms?
>
> Do you *really* think that the source of MAME is only to use it playing
> games?
> Don't forget that there is tons of proc. emulators (and a debugger for all
> this procs.) in it.
> Software compagnies could use this code for their own purpose and sale their
> program
> as if it were their own code.
> Think about MESS... it is a mame derivated and free. Without any licence
> MESS developpers could sell it without any "coins" to MAME developpers ;-)

Thats what free software is all about.
I refer you to: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Anonymous
May 5, 2005 10:49:24 PM

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On 2005-05-05, Captain Rotundo <rotundo@XXX.dweasel.XXX.com> wrote:
> Thats what free software is all about.
> I refer you to: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

And mame is not free software nor open source. What is your point,
already?

OG.
Anonymous
May 5, 2005 10:52:01 PM

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On 2005-05-04, Captain Rotundo <rotundo@XXX.dweasel.XXX.com> wrote:
> It's a real shame that they didn't go with a truly free license.

Please give some examples of what you would do with the mame source
were commercial use allowed. What difference would it make to you?

OG.
Anonymous
May 5, 2005 10:52:02 PM

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Olivier Galibert wrote:

>>It's a real shame that they didn't go with a truly free license.
>
> Please give some examples of what you would do with the mame source
> were commercial use allowed. What difference would it make to you?
>
I don't know about Capt. Rotundo, but if commercial use was allowed, I
would paint the Mame logo on my lawn mower and make Pacman noises as I
cut the grass.
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Anonymous
May 5, 2005 11:37:09 PM

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On 2005-05-05, FSogol <FSogol@nospamplease.org> wrote:
> I don't know about Capt. Rotundo, but if commercial use was allowed, I
> would paint the Mame logo on my lawn mower and make Pacman noises as I
> cut the grass.

That concerns the trademark license, not the code one. I'm sure we
can get an official authorization for your lawnmower, if we can be
sure of the accuracy of the Pacman noises.

OG.
Anonymous
May 5, 2005 11:37:10 PM

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Olivier Galibert wrote:

> On 2005-05-05, FSogol <FSogol@nospamplease.org> wrote:
>
>>I don't know about Capt. Rotundo, but if commercial use was allowed, I
>>would paint the Mame logo on my lawn mower and make Pacman noises as I
>>cut the grass.
>
>
> That concerns the trademark license, not the code one. I'm sure we
> can get an official authorization for your lawnmower, if we can be
> sure of the accuracy of the Pacman noises.
>
:-)

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FSogol
May 6, 2005 12:39:13 AM

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Olivier Galibert wrote:
> On 2005-05-04, Captain Rotundo <rotundo@XXX.dweasel.XXX.com> wrote:
>
>>It's a real shame that they didn't go with a truly free license.
>
>
> Please give some examples of what you would do with the mame source
> were commercial use allowed. What difference would it make to you?
>
> OG.
>

Now that is an interesting question! I don't know what I would do if I
bought the right to use the source code as I see fit. I am struggling
to think of one single commercial application, especially as the
'original' which you would be competing with, is free :-)

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Anonymous
May 6, 2005 2:29:40 AM

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Olivier Galibert's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through
his body were:
> On 2005-05-05, Captain Rotundo <rotundo@XXX.dweasel.XXX.com> wrote:
>> Thats what free software is all about.
>> I refer you to: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
> And mame is not free software nor open source. What is your point,
> already?

Yeah MAME just has its source available and for free (gratis). Similar
situations, very different results.
Anonymous
May 6, 2005 2:46:47 AM

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On 2005-05-05, FSogol <FSogol@nospamplease.org> wrote:

> I don't know about Capt. Rotundo, but if commercial use was allowed,
> I would paint the Mame logo on my lawn mower and make Pacman noises
> as I cut the grass.

I think it would be more appropriate on a weed-wacca-wacca.

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