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I got a barton 2500 and it's made before the lock of the multiplicator
and it's at the moment running at 12.5\175.The reason I don't raise the
bus speed more is my bad memorys.I got 2 256 pc3400.The brand is
Apacer. If I just raise the bus speed to 176 I get errors running prime
95.And I got the cas and other settings very slow set, it's like
8-4-4-3.Then I read others having the same mobo as I do(Asus A7N8X rev2
deluxe) running in speeds past 200.I think I have to get new memory.I
saw a sign for memorys called :OCZ 256MB DDR500 PC-4000 .I'm thinking of
getting two of those.They are not that expensive but do have lifetime
warranty.Do somebody know if they got a good reputation when it comes to
tweaking bus speeds and so on.Please let me know as I don't fancy
getting ripped of twice buying memorys.Regards
al
 
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>I got a barton 2500 and it's made before the lock of the multiplicator
>and it's at the moment running at 12.5\175.The reason I don't raise the
>bus speed more is my bad memorys.I got 2 256 pc3400.The brand is
>Apacer. If I just raise the bus speed to 176 I get errors running prime
>95.

It may not be the memory. Have you tried increasing the voltage to the CPU or
DIMMs? It could also be your HD(IDE,PCI bus) doesn't like to be overclocked
 
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"YanquiDawg" <yanquidawg@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >I got a barton 2500 and it's made before the lock of the multiplicator
> >and it's at the moment running at 12.5\175.The reason I don't raise the
> >bus speed more is my bad memorys.I got 2 256 pc3400.The brand is
> >Apacer. If I just raise the bus speed to 176 I get errors running prime
> >95.
>
> It may not be the memory. Have you tried increasing the voltage to the CPU
or
> DIMMs? It could also be your HD(IDE,PCI bus) doesn't like to be
overclocked

I would lock the AGP at 66Mhz And try 200x11.
12.5x200 is 2500Mhz.
12.5x176 is probably to much for the cpu.
Lower the multiplier to say...10x200 and reboot
if tyou get the 2000Mhz then try 11x200 for 3200+ speed of 2.2ghz.
Default Vcore is 1.65...maybe raise to 1.70 if not stable at 200FSB x11
I had a 2100+ that ran that with 1.70Vcore and now have a Mobile Barton 2500
@ 11.5x200 for 2300Mhz 1.60Vcore.
You need to def lower the multiplier and raise fsb IMHO.
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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 18:38:51 +0200, allan wrote:

> I got a barton 2500 and it's made before the lock of the multiplicator
> and it's at the moment running at 12.5\175.The reason I don't raise the
> bus speed more is my bad memorys.I got 2 256 pc3400.The brand is
> Apacer.

Well, I've seen PC24000 ram, but never PC3400, so I suspect you have
PC2400, and running it at 175MHz is already overclocking it a lot. Now if
you want to make sure it's a ram problem, just run it out of sync and go
ahead and raise the FSB.

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YanquiDawg wrote:
>>I got a barton 2500 and it's made before the lock of the multiplicator
>>and it's at the moment running at 12.5\175.The reason I don't raise the
>>bus speed more is my bad memorys.I got 2 256 pc3400.The brand is
>>Apacer. If I just raise the bus speed to 176 I get errors running prime
>>95.
>
>
> It may not be the memory. Have you tried increasing the voltage to the CPU or
> DIMMs? It could also be your HD(IDE,PCI bus) doesn't like to be overclocked
Tried to raise the voltage to everything and it does not make any
difference except for that the temp goes up a little bit.ANd i got two
hard drives one ide and one sata.
But according to prime 95 it's the memory that gives errors when raising
the fsb up to 276.what do ya think?
have a nice day
al
 
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Wes Newell wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 18:38:51 +0200, allan wrote:
>
>
>>I got a barton 2500 and it's made before the lock of the multiplicator
>>and it's at the moment running at 12.5\175.The reason I don't raise the
>>bus speed more is my bad memorys.I got 2 256 pc3400.The brand is
>>Apacer.
>
>
> Well, I've seen PC24000 ram, but never PC3400, so I suspect you have
> PC2400, and running it at 175MHz is already overclocking it a lot. Now if
> you want to make sure it's a ram problem, just run it out of sync and go
> ahead and raise the FSB.
>

Hi Wes
I think you are wrong about the memory.The sticker says 3400
and if you do a goggle on apacer 3400 you'll be surprised.
What do you mean "run it out of sync"
regards Al
 
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Wes Newell wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 18:38:51 +0200, allan wrote:
>
>
>>I got a barton 2500 and it's made before the lock of the multiplicator
>>and it's at the moment running at 12.5\175.The reason I don't raise the
>>bus speed more is my bad memorys.I got 2 256 pc3400.The brand is
>>Apacer.
>
>
> Well, I've seen PC24000 ram, but never PC3400, so I suspect you have
> PC2400, and running it at 175MHz is already overclocking it a lot. Now if
> you want to make sure it's a ram problem, just run it out of sync and go
> ahead and raise the FSB.
>
Sorry Wes I mean 3200.That's what the sticker says and what to search
for.They are supposed to run in 2/200
cheers
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"allan" <u86513780remove@telia.com> wrote in message
news:2nr4osF3n8b8U1@uni-berlin.de...
> YanquiDawg wrote:
> >>I got a barton 2500 and it's made before the lock of the multiplicator
> >>and it's at the moment running at 12.5\175.The reason I don't raise the
> >>bus speed more is my bad memorys.I got 2 256 pc3400.The brand is
> >>Apacer. If I just raise the bus speed to 176 I get errors running prime
> >>95.
> >
> >
> > It may not be the memory. Have you tried increasing the voltage to the
CPU or
> > DIMMs? It could also be your HD(IDE,PCI bus) doesn't like to be
overclocked
> Tried to raise the voltage to everything and it does not make any
> difference except for that the temp goes up a little bit.ANd i got two
> hard drives one ide and one sata.
> But according to prime 95 it's the memory that gives errors when raising
> the fsb up to 276.what do ya think?
> have a nice day
> al

go do what TBC OZoNE said
 
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:39:31 +0200, allan wrote:

> Hi Wes
> I think you are wrong about the memory.The sticker says 3400
> and if you do a goggle on apacer 3400 you'll be surprised.
> What do you mean "run it out of sync"
> regards Al

Then I stand corrected, it's just i don't recall ever seeing PC3400. Out
of sync means to run the FSB and ram buses at different speeds, like FSB
at 200MHz and ram at 166MHz or vice versa, anything except the same speed.

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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:43:12 +0200, allan wrote:

> Sorry Wes I mean 3200.That's what the sticker says and what to search
> for.They are supposed to run in 2/200

Some PC3200 ram just won't make 200MHz, but it should come closer than
176MHz, unless you don't have a PCI lock on your MB. You night try a
little more voltage to the ram. Raise it by.1-..2v and try it there and
make sure all the timings are set to slow.

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Wes Newell wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:43:12 +0200, allan wrote:
>
>
>>Sorry Wes I mean 3200.That's what the sticker says and what to search
>>for.They are supposed to run in 2/200
>
>
> Some PC3200 ram just won't make 200MHz, but it should come closer than
> 176MHz, unless you don't have a PCI lock on your MB. You night try a
> little more voltage to the ram. Raise it by.1-..2v and try it there and
> make sure all the timings are set to slow.
>

Hi again
Now I tried almost all settings that are changeable.And I found this.
I can raise the fsb speed to 182.At 183 the thing want start.I run with
the default multiplicator and thats 11.5.At this speed I can use any
voltage as it don't make any difference but warmth.So I restored all
power to default as no more seems to be needed.I tried with the
multiplicator at ten but it made no change at the end.Fsb of 182 that's
it.I'm getting unsure if it is the memory ore something else.The mobo is
one year "younger"than the processor as I was given a new one when the
"first" one broke down.Maybe it is the cu after all?
what do ya think?
 
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:31:35 +0200, allan wrote:

> Wes Newell wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 07:43:12 +0200, allan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sorry Wes I mean 3200.That's what the sticker says and what to search
>>>for.They are supposed to run in 2/200
>>
>>
>> Some PC3200 ram just won't make 200MHz, but it should come closer than
>> 176MHz, unless you don't have a PCI lock on your MB. You night try a
>> little more voltage to the ram. Raise it by.1-..2v and try it there and
>> make sure all the timings are set to slow.
>>
>
> Now I tried almost all settings that are changeable.And I found this.
> I can raise the fsb speed to 182.At 183 the thing want start.I run with
> the default multiplicator and thats 11.5.At this speed I can use any
> voltage as it don't make any difference but warmth.So I restored all
> power to default as no more seems to be needed.I tried with the
> multiplicator at ten but it made no change at the end.Fsb of 182 that's
> it.I'm getting unsure if it is the memory ore something else.The mobo is
> one year "younger"than the processor as I was given a new one when the
> "first" one broke down.Maybe it is the cu after all?
> what do ya think?

Do you have the PCI lock set? If not, changing fsb speeds changes the pci
bus and will cause failures or won't even boot. Also, if your cpu is
locked then it just may not run at 11.5x200 even with more voltage. hard
to say what the problem is. you just need to check all settings for being
correct.

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Wes Newell wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:31:35 +0200, allan wrote:
>


>
>
> Do you have the PCI lock set? If not, changing fsb speeds changes the pci
> bus and will cause failures or won't even boot. Also, if your cpu is
> locked then it just may not run at 11.5x200 even with more voltage. hard
> to say what the problem is. you just need to check all settings for being
> correct.
>

Wes my man! now we are getting somewhere!Thanks for your patience
with me.I newer understood the connection with the front side bus speed
and the pci and agp speed.I changed the agp from auto to 66mhz and the
memory to 80% so now with a fsb at 200 and the multiplicator at 11 my
bios reads that I got a xp 3200 with a speed of 3204 mhz and I have no
feeling of reaching the limit yet.All voltage are at default.The memory
runs fine at 166 mhz and I got a lot of exiting stuff to check up.
By changing the agp speed I changed the pci speed as well,am I right.
regards al
 
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"allan" <u86513780remove@telia.com> wrote in message
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> Wes Newell wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:31:35 +0200, allan wrote:
> >
>
>
> >
> >
> > Do you have the PCI lock set? If not, changing fsb speeds changes the
pci
> > bus and will cause failures or won't even boot. Also, if your cpu is
> > locked then it just may not run at 11.5x200 even with more voltage. hard
> > to say what the problem is. you just need to check all settings for
being
> > correct.
> >
>
> Wes my man! now we are getting somewhere!Thanks for your patience
> with me.I newer understood the connection with the front side bus speed
> and the pci and agp speed.I changed the agp from auto to 66mhz and the
> memory to 80% so now with a fsb at 200 and the multiplicator at 11 my
> bios reads that I got a xp 3200 with a speed of 3204 mhz and I have no
> feeling of reaching the limit yet.All voltage are at default.The memory
> runs fine at 166 mhz and I got a lot of exiting stuff to check up.
> By changing the agp speed I changed the pci speed as well,am I right.
> regards al

Ozone told you to do it long before wes .. shame you just skipped over his
post.
 
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rstlne wrote:
> "allan" <u86513780remove@telia.com> wrote in message
> news:2ntsabF4m2akU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
>>Wes Newell wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:31:35 +0200, allan wrote:
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Do you have the PCI lock set? If not, changing fsb speeds changes the
>
> pci
>
>>>bus and will cause failures or won't even boot. Also, if your cpu is
>>>locked then it just may not run at 11.5x200 even with more voltage. hard
>>>to say what the problem is. you just need to check all settings for
>
> being
>
>>>correct.
>>>
>>
>> Wes my man! now we are getting somewhere!Thanks for your patience
>>with me.I newer understood the connection with the front side bus speed
>>and the pci and agp speed.I changed the agp from auto to 66mhz and the
>>memory to 80% so now with a fsb at 200 and the multiplicator at 11 my
>>bios reads that I got a xp 3200 with a speed of 3204 mhz and I have no
>>feeling of reaching the limit yet.All voltage are at default.The memory
>>runs fine at 166 mhz and I got a lot of exiting stuff to check up.
>>By changing the agp speed I changed the pci speed as well,am I right.
>>regards al
>
>
> Ozone told you to do it long before wes .. shame you just skipped over his
> post.
>
>
Yeah he did and I like to thank him to and I'm sorry I did not
understand then what he meant.And that was bad understanding on my part.
But I would like to say you are feeling sorry for Ozone in wain as I
guess that he can feel sorry for himself if he got any reason of doing
that.I doubt that he's going around and feeling sorry cause people
around him have a limited level of understanding when it comes to
computers for example. you drawing such conclusions because I had a
spontanius being glad reaction when I finally understood or rather sort
of understood parts of the oc problem I had.
Thanks to all that tried to make me see the light
cheers al
 
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"allan" <u86513780remove@telia.com> wrote in message
news:2nu0mtF4i9d9U1@uni-berlin.de...
> rstlne wrote:
> > "allan" <u86513780remove@telia.com> wrote in message
> > news:2ntsabF4m2akU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >>Wes Newell wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:31:35 +0200, allan wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Do you have the PCI lock set? If not, changing fsb speeds changes the
> >
> > pci
> >
> >>>bus and will cause failures or won't even boot. Also, if your cpu is
> >>>locked then it just may not run at 11.5x200 even with more voltage.
hard
> >>>to say what the problem is. you just need to check all settings for
> >
> > being
> >
> >>>correct.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Wes my man! now we are getting somewhere!Thanks for your patience
> >>with me.I newer understood the connection with the front side bus speed
> >>and the pci and agp speed.I changed the agp from auto to 66mhz and the
> >>memory to 80% so now with a fsb at 200 and the multiplicator at 11 my
> >>bios reads that I got a xp 3200 with a speed of 3204 mhz and I have no
> >>feeling of reaching the limit yet.All voltage are at default.The memory
> >>runs fine at 166 mhz and I got a lot of exiting stuff to check up.
> >>By changing the agp speed I changed the pci speed as well,am I right.
> >>regards al
> >
> >
> > Ozone told you to do it long before wes .. shame you just skipped over
his
> > post.
> >
> >
> Yeah he did and I like to thank him to and I'm sorry I did not
> understand then what he meant.And that was bad understanding on my part.
> But I would like to say you are feeling sorry for Ozone in wain as I
> guess that he can feel sorry for himself if he got any reason of doing
> that.I doubt that he's going around and feeling sorry cause people
> around him have a limited level of understanding when it comes to
> computers for example. you drawing such conclusions because I had a
> spontanius being glad reaction when I finally understood or rather sort
> of understood parts of the oc problem I had.
> Thanks to all that tried to make me see the light
> cheers al

Its all good everyone....I wasnt sure of Allens level of understanding.
I explained it to a person that had more knowledge....not a put down
alen....
Wes did give you more easily understood directions...
rstlne Its ok....
Lets all get along and help not flame :)
OZoNE




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>
>
> Its all good everyone....I wasnt sure of Allens level of understanding.
> I explained it to a person that had more knowledge....not a put down
> alen....
> Wes did give you more easily understood directions...
> rstlne Its ok....
> Lets all get along and help not flame :)
> OZoNE
>
> Nice lines :)
And now after a year of struggling I finally made it to a 200mhz fsb.
cheers all
al
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