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October 24, 2004 4:27:58 PM

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Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help.
Its been a while since my last upgrade - currently I run a 1Ghz Athlon
on an Asus A7V and its getting a bit slow. I'd like to stick with AMD
and upgrade to an Athlon 64bit - probably 3.2Ghz. The choice of
motherboards has got me stumped. I known the 939 socket is new but the
computer fairs are mostly full of 754 solutions. I'm leaning towards a
939 - mostly because its newer. What's the concensus on the Asus A8V?
It seems to fit my needs but doesn't have PCI Express. Most of the
reviews I've seen don't seem to think thats a big deal at present.

Is anyone out there using the A8V? Any issues with it?

TIA

Paul
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Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 24, 2004 8:31:25 PM

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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:27:58 +0000, Paul wrote:

> Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help. Its been a
> while since my last upgrade - currently I run a 1Ghz Athlon on an Asus
> A7V and its getting a bit slow.

I assume you know you could more than double the CPU speed on this board
with a cheap CPU upgrade. You can go as high as 2400MHz with an unlocked
XP, XP-M, or MP cpu, without overclocking the FSB. See link in sig line.

> I'd like to stick with AMD and upgrade to an Athlon 64bit - probably
> 3.2Ghz. The choice of motherboards has got me stumped. I known the
> 939 socket is new but the computer fairs are mostly full of 754
> solutions. I'm leaning towards a 939 - mostly because its newer.

There's really very little differance in performance between 754 and 939
when they have the same clockspeed/cache CPU. The 754 will even outperform
the 939 in a couple of apps due to the dual channel, but mostly 939 will
only be about 3% faster.

> What's the concensus on the Asus A8V? It seems to fit my needs but
> doesn't have PCI Express. Most of the reviews I've seen don't seem to
> think thats a big deal at present.
>
If you can't make up your mind between 754 and 939, might want to look at
the Asrock K8-Combo-z. It supports both 754 and 939. If you plan on
overclcoking, then make sure the board you buy has a PCI lock. Other than
that, there's no much to be concerned with other than the feature you want.

--
Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 24, 2004 8:43:44 PM

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Paul,

I've been using an A8V for four weeks. (It's the Rev. 2 version of the
board.) I was inspired to upgrade to it to wring a bit more out of my newish
AGP nVidia Geforce 6800 GT graphics card.

The system seems quite solid with XP SP2. I have two sticks of generic 512
MB PC3200 DDR memory (Samsung chips) and an A64 3500+. It seems happy with a
mild overclock (220 MHz), so I guess that it's not overly fussy about RAM
(run at 1:1, 2.7 V, 2.5-3-3-10, command 1T).

I'm using a Thermalright (www.thermalright.com) XP-120 heatsink with it. It
fits the A8V with no interferences at all. (I recommend installing it with
the board out of the case, though.) I don't know whether the XP-120 is
better than other air-only heat sinks, but it's light for its enormous size:
370g without the 120 mm fan.

Whether a Socket 939 system is to be much preferred over a Socket 754 one, I
don't know from personal experience. My last system was a P4 (Asus P4P800
mainboard), and I couldn't bear to part with dual channel. However, I've
done a little testing running large 2D FFTs in a scientific software
package. Running arrays that don't fit in the L2 cache slows the calculation
by factor of approx. 2.0. That's really impressive performance, although
apparently it may not make Doom3 run any faster.

Anandtech (www.anandtech.com) seems to like the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
(nForce3 250 Ultra chipset). I decided to stay with Asus, though. (I didn't
make the choice based on the XP-120 cooler, but it won't fit the MSI board.)

I can't counsel you as to whether to wait a bit. I have read nothing that
suggests that current PCI express offers a performance advantage over AGP,
but a PCI-E graphics card might take a few months longer to go obsolete than
an AGP one. Perhaps an Asus nForce4 mainboard would be worth waiting for,
although I don't recall seeing any official announcements as to what
chipsets Asus will use for PCI-E Socket 939. (The Via K8T890 would be an
alternative.)

HTH.

Bob Knowlden

Address may be scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.

"Paul" <pcas_1986@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:idNed.37576$5O5.5316@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help.
> Its been a while since my last upgrade - currently I run a 1Ghz Athlon on
> an Asus A7V and its getting a bit slow. I'd like to stick with AMD and
> upgrade to an Athlon 64bit - probably 3.2Ghz. The choice of motherboards
> has got me stumped. I known the 939 socket is new but the computer fairs
> are mostly full of 754 solutions. I'm leaning towards a 939 - mostly
> because its newer. What's the concensus on the Asus A8V? It seems to fit
> my needs but doesn't have PCI Express. Most of the reviews I've seen
> don't seem to think thats a big deal at present.
>
> Is anyone out there using the A8V? Any issues with it?
>
> TIA
>
> Paul
> (Remove the underscore to reply direct)
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Anonymous
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October 25, 2004 12:12:35 AM

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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:27:58 GMT, Paul <pcas_1986@bigpond.net.au>
wrote:

>Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help.

a.c.h.amd.x86-64
read / ask there also, lots of question specific answers

>Its been a while since my last upgrade - currently I run a 1Ghz Athlon
>on an Asus A7V and its getting a bit slow. I'd like to stick with AMD
>and upgrade to an Athlon 64bit - probably 3.2Ghz. The choice of
>motherboards has got me stumped. I known the 939 socket is new but the
>computer fairs are mostly full of 754 solutions. I'm leaning towards a
>939 - mostly because its newer. What's the concensus on the Asus A8V?
>It seems to fit my needs but doesn't have PCI Express. Most of the
>reviews I've seen don't seem to think thats a big deal at present.

>Is anyone out there using the A8V? Any issues with it?

>TIA

>Paul
>(Remove the underscore to reply direct)
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 25, 2004 12:42:56 AM

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My humble opinion. 754 is dead, it just hasn't hit the ground yet.

Stick with 939....Again my personal opinion.

Take a look at some of the othere threads on what to buy as far as speed
goes, slower cpu with o/c and a good hardware goes a long way...

Cheers.

"Paul" <pcas_1986@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help.
> Its been a while since my last upgrade - currently I run a 1Ghz Athlon on
> an Asus A7V and its getting a bit slow. I'd like to stick with AMD and
> upgrade to an Athlon 64bit - probably 3.2Ghz. The choice of motherboards
> has got me stumped. I known the 939 socket is new but the computer fairs
> are mostly full of 754 solutions. I'm leaning towards a 939 - mostly
> because its newer. What's the concensus on the Asus A8V? It seems to fit
> my needs but doesn't have PCI Express. Most of the reviews I've seen
> don't seem to think thats a big deal at present.
>
> Is anyone out there using the A8V? Any issues with it?
>
> TIA
>
> Paul
> (Remove the underscore to reply direct)
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 25, 2004 10:22:23 AM

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can you comment on the XP-120 noise level?


"Bob Knowlden" <nkbob@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:2u2ig8F23n30hU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Paul,
>
> I've been using an A8V for four weeks. (It's the Rev. 2 version of the
> board.) I was inspired to upgrade to it to wring a bit more out of my
> newish AGP nVidia Geforce 6800 GT graphics card.
>
> The system seems quite solid with XP SP2. I have two sticks of generic 512
> MB PC3200 DDR memory (Samsung chips) and an A64 3500+. It seems happy with
> a mild overclock (220 MHz), so I guess that it's not overly fussy about
> RAM (run at 1:1, 2.7 V, 2.5-3-3-10, command 1T).
>
> I'm using a Thermalright (www.thermalright.com) XP-120 heatsink with it.
> It fits the A8V with no interferences at all. (I recommend installing it
> with the board out of the case, though.) I don't know whether the XP-120
> is better than other air-only heat sinks, but it's light for its enormous
> size: 370g without the 120 mm fan.
>
> Whether a Socket 939 system is to be much preferred over a Socket 754 one,
> I don't know from personal experience. My last system was a P4 (Asus
> P4P800 mainboard), and I couldn't bear to part with dual channel. However,
> I've done a little testing running large 2D FFTs in a scientific software
> package. Running arrays that don't fit in the L2 cache slows the
> calculation by factor of approx. 2.0. That's really impressive
> performance, although apparently it may not make Doom3 run any faster.
>
> Anandtech (www.anandtech.com) seems to like the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
> (nForce3 250 Ultra chipset). I decided to stay with Asus, though. (I
> didn't make the choice based on the XP-120 cooler, but it won't fit the
> MSI board.)
>
> I can't counsel you as to whether to wait a bit. I have read nothing that
> suggests that current PCI express offers a performance advantage over AGP,
> but a PCI-E graphics card might take a few months longer to go obsolete
> than an AGP one. Perhaps an Asus nForce4 mainboard would be worth waiting
> for, although I don't recall seeing any official announcements as to what
> chipsets Asus will use for PCI-E Socket 939. (The Via K8T890 would be an
> alternative.)
>
> HTH.
>
> Bob Knowlden
>
> Address may be scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.
>
> "Paul" <pcas_1986@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:idNed.37576$5O5.5316@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help.
>> Its been a while since my last upgrade - currently I run a 1Ghz Athlon on
>> an Asus A7V and its getting a bit slow. I'd like to stick with AMD and
>> upgrade to an Athlon 64bit - probably 3.2Ghz. The choice of
>> motherboards has got me stumped. I known the 939 socket is new but the
>> computer fairs are mostly full of 754 solutions. I'm leaning towards a
>> 939 - mostly because its newer. What's the concensus on the Asus A8V? It
>> seems to fit my needs but doesn't have PCI Express. Most of the reviews
>> I've seen don't seem to think thats a big deal at present.
>>
>> Is anyone out there using the A8V? Any issues with it?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Paul
>> (Remove the underscore to reply direct)
>
>
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 25, 2004 6:12:57 PM

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socket 754 is intended for cheap end of the 64bit AMD CPUs, and it will be
an upgrade dead end. the socket 939 seems to have a better future, but I
will personally wait for the PCI express version, which i think will come
out in 1 to 2 months

There is no 3.2Ghz Athlon 64, I think you are referring to the model number
3200, which AMD claims will perform as good as a P4 3.2Ghz, it is a
"relatively" accurate model number I guess. Intel at the moment is also
dropping the Ghz number and adopting model numbers like AMD

Socket 939 CPUs have dual memory controller, socket 754 are single channel

I am waiting for a PCI express version of the socket 939 with a dual PCIe
slot so I can do SLI with two Geforce 6600

"Paul" <pcas_1986@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:idNed.37576$5O5.5316@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help.
> Its been a while since my last upgrade - currently I run a 1Ghz Athlon
> on an Asus A7V and its getting a bit slow. I'd like to stick with AMD
> and upgrade to an Athlon 64bit - probably 3.2Ghz. The choice of
> motherboards has got me stumped. I known the 939 socket is new but the
> computer fairs are mostly full of 754 solutions. I'm leaning towards a
> 939 - mostly because its newer. What's the concensus on the Asus A8V?
> It seems to fit my needs but doesn't have PCI Express. Most of the
> reviews I've seen don't seem to think thats a big deal at present.
>
> Is anyone out there using the A8V? Any issues with it?
>
> TIA
>
> Paul
> (Remove the underscore to reply direct)
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 25, 2004 11:33:09 PM

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To state the obvious: it's entirely dependent on the fan used.

Thermalright recommends a Panaflo FBA12G12L1A (1700 RPM, 30 dBA) fan. I'm
using an Enermax variable speed fan turned, turned down until it's inaudible
over the case fans (approx. 1700 RPM). The case fans are low-RPM 120 mm
ones (stock in the Antec Super Lanboy case). The Enermax fan doesn't fit the
XP-120 properly; it has boxed corners rather than the open ones Thermalright
requires, but it's usable. I'll eventually replace or modify it. (The
Panaflo may move more air without making more noise. It's 120X120X38 mm,
while the Enermax is 120X120X25 mm.) This will not bring me to silence, but
it'll be the quietest system I'll have had in years.

Bob Kn.

"Keith S." <keithtucaz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:qdqdnZNZUMG8Y-HcRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
> can you comment on the XP-120 noise level?
>
>
> "Bob Knowlden" <nkbob@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:2u2ig8F23n30hU1@uni-berlin.de...
>> Paul,
>>
>> I've been using an A8V for four weeks. (It's the Rev. 2 version of the
>> board.) I was inspired to upgrade to it to wring a bit more out of my
>> newish AGP nVidia Geforce 6800 GT graphics card.
>>
>> The system seems quite solid with XP SP2. I have two sticks of generic
>> 512 MB PC3200 DDR memory (Samsung chips) and an A64 3500+. It seems happy
>> with a mild overclock (220 MHz), so I guess that it's not overly fussy
>> about RAM (run at 1:1, 2.7 V, 2.5-3-3-10, command 1T).
>>
>> I'm using a Thermalright (www.thermalright.com) XP-120 heatsink with it.
>> It fits the A8V with no interferences at all. (I recommend installing it
>> with the board out of the case, though.) I don't know whether the XP-120
>> is better than other air-only heat sinks, but it's light for its enormous
>> size: 370g without the 120 mm fan.
>>
(snip)
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 26, 2004 12:35:15 AM

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You might try going for a cheap upgrade, ECS K7S5A PRO.
It comes with two SDRAM slots for PC100/133 memory
(and two DDR slots for PC2100)
and can use up to an AMD XP 2600 (266mhz bus speed).
K7S5A PRO goes for about $25-$30 on www.ebay.com
AMD 2400 or 2600 start at $67 on www.pricewatch.com

Someone also has a K7S5A PRO with AMD 2000 for $70 on eBay.

Or if you really want to spend more money, the Sempron 3100 (socket 754)
seems to be the best back for the buck, $100

"Paul" <pcas_1986@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:idNed.37576$5O5.5316@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help.
> Its been a while since my last upgrade - currently I run a 1Ghz Athlon on
> an Asus A7V and its getting a bit slow. I'd like to stick with AMD and
> upgrade to an Athlon 64bit - probably 3.2Ghz. The choice of motherboards
> has got me stumped. I known the 939 socket is new but the computer fairs
> are mostly full of 754 solutions. I'm leaning towards a 939 - mostly
> because its newer. What's the concensus on the Asus A8V? It seems to fit
> my needs but doesn't have PCI Express. Most of the reviews I've seen
> don't seem to think thats a big deal at present.
>
> Is anyone out there using the A8V? Any issues with it?
>
> TIA
>
> Paul
> (Remove the underscore to reply direct)
>
October 26, 2004 3:54:11 AM

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Actually it seems every new socket type is an upgrade dead end. The 754
isn't really any more dead than 939 is. Seems every new generations of
processors they go and change the socket type on the motherboards just so
they can make more money.

"FSAA" <fsaa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JR7fd.153932$BI5.91431@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> socket 754 is intended for cheap end of the 64bit AMD CPUs, and it will be
> an upgrade dead end. the socket 939 seems to have a better future, but I
> will personally wait for the PCI express version, which i think will come
> out in 1 to 2 months
>
> There is no 3.2Ghz Athlon 64, I think you are referring to the model
> number
> 3200, which AMD claims will perform as good as a P4 3.2Ghz, it is a
> "relatively" accurate model number I guess. Intel at the moment is also
> dropping the Ghz number and adopting model numbers like AMD
>
> Socket 939 CPUs have dual memory controller, socket 754 are single channel
>
> I am waiting for a PCI express version of the socket 939 with a dual PCIe
> slot so I can do SLI with two Geforce 6600
>
> "Paul" <pcas_1986@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:idNed.37576$5O5.5316@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help.
>> Its been a while since my last upgrade - currently I run a 1Ghz Athlon
>> on an Asus A7V and its getting a bit slow. I'd like to stick with AMD
>> and upgrade to an Athlon 64bit - probably 3.2Ghz. The choice of
>> motherboards has got me stumped. I known the 939 socket is new but the
>> computer fairs are mostly full of 754 solutions. I'm leaning towards a
>> 939 - mostly because its newer. What's the concensus on the Asus A8V?
>> It seems to fit my needs but doesn't have PCI Express. Most of the
>> reviews I've seen don't seem to think thats a big deal at present.
>>
>> Is anyone out there using the A8V? Any issues with it?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Paul
>> (Remove the underscore to reply direct)
>
>
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 26, 2004 4:23:57 AM

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You might try going for a cheap upgrade, ECS K7S5A PRO.
It comes with two SDRAM slots for PC100/133 memory
(and two DDR slots for PC2100)
and can use up to an AMD XP 2600 (266mhz bus speed).
K7S5A PRO goes for about $25-$30 on www.ebay.com
AMD 2400 or 2600 start at $67 on www.pricewatch.com

Someone also has a K7S5A PRO with AMD 2000 for $70 on eBay.

Or if you really want to spend more money, the Sempron 3100 (socket 754)
seems to be the best bang for the buck, $100

"Paul" <pcas_1986@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:idNed.37576$5O5.5316@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help.
> Its been a while since my last upgrade - currently I run a 1Ghz Athlon on
> an Asus A7V and its getting a bit slow. I'd like to stick with AMD and
> upgrade to an Athlon 64bit - probably 3.2Ghz. The choice of motherboards
> has got me stumped. I known the 939 socket is new but the computer fairs
> are mostly full of 754 solutions. I'm leaning towards a 939 - mostly
> because its newer. What's the concensus on the Asus A8V? It seems to fit
> my needs but doesn't have PCI Express. Most of the reviews I've seen
> don't seem to think thats a big deal at present.
>
> Is anyone out there using the A8V? Any issues with it?
>
> TIA
>
> Paul
> (Remove the underscore to reply direct)
>
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 26, 2004 9:42:14 AM

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Hello Paul.

I already have an Asus A8V (with a 3500+) and it runs fine. The only issue
I had was trying to update the bios from 1006 to the later versions (which
led to an unbootable system). However, my system is stable with the 1006
bios. I have revision 1.02 of the m/board. Revision 2 is the one you
should try and get. It has a working AGP/PCI lock and perhaps does not have
the same problem with the bios update. You could also look at the MSI K8N
Neo2 Platinum board. It is supposed to be a bit faster.

You might find this article useful:

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2128&p=1

Regards,
Shane

"Paul" <pcas_1986@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help.
> Its been a while since my last upgrade - currently I run a 1Ghz Athlon on
> an Asus A7V and its getting a bit slow. I'd like to stick with AMD and
> upgrade to an Athlon 64bit - probably 3.2Ghz. The choice of motherboards
> has got me stumped. I known the 939 socket is new but the computer fairs
> are mostly full of 754 solutions. I'm leaning towards a 939 - mostly
> because its newer. What's the concensus on the Asus A8V? It seems to fit
> my needs but doesn't have PCI Express. Most of the reviews I've seen
> don't seem to think thats a big deal at present.
>
> Is anyone out there using the A8V? Any issues with it?
>
> TIA
>
> Paul
> (Remove the underscore to reply direct)
October 26, 2004 2:22:26 PM

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FSAA wrote:
> socket 754 is intended for cheap end of the 64bit AMD CPUs, and it will be
> an upgrade dead end. the socket 939 seems to have a better future, but I
> will personally wait for the PCI express version, which i think will come
> out in 1 to 2 months
Something to consider.
>
> There is no 3.2Ghz Athlon 64, I think you are referring to the model number
> 3200,
Hmm another victim of intentionally(?) misleading advertising. I stand,
or rather sit, corrected. Tks.
which AMD claims will perform as good as a P4 3.2Ghz, it is a
> "relatively" accurate model number I guess. Intel at the moment is also
> dropping the Ghz number and adopting model numbers like AMD
As I understand it the whole clock speed issue is becoming meaningless
anyway.
>
> Socket 939 CPUs have dual memory controller, socket 754 are single channel
>
That I didn't know - maybe I'd better read the fine print.
> I am waiting for a PCI express version of the socket 939 with a dual PCIe
> slot so I can do SLI with two Geforce 6600
>

Thanks for the info.
Cheers
Paul
October 26, 2004 2:25:04 PM

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borolad@myowseintheboro.org wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:27:58 GMT, Paul <pcas_1986@bigpond.net.au>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Ok maybe not the right forum but hopefully someone can help.
>
>
> a.c.h.amd.x86-64
> read / ask there also, lots of question specific answers
>
Does this forum still exist? I can't find it. I thought it might be my
newsreader (Mozilla Thunderbird) but I tried Outlook as well and still a
negative result.

Paul
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 26, 2004 5:53:09 PM

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>
Does this forum still exist? I can't find it. I thought it might be my
newsreader (Mozilla Thunderbird) but I tried Outlook as well and still a
negative result.

> Paul

I cant find it either on AOL.
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 26, 2004 8:25:19 PM

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:53:09 +0000, Courseyauto wrote:

>>
> Does this forum still exist? I can't find it. I thought it might be my
> newsreader (Mozilla Thunderbird) but I tried Outlook as well and still a
> negative result.
>
>> Paul
>
> I cant find it either on AOL.

As with any newsgroup, it has to be added to the each server. So if
no one using AOL (or any other news server) ever request it to be added,
it probably won't be. IOW's you need to request it to be added if your
isp's news server does carry it.

alt.comp.hardware.amd.x86-64

--
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http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
October 28, 2004 4:44:08 PM

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no spam wrote:
> Hello Paul.
>
>(snip) You could also look at the MSI K8N
> Neo2 Platinum board. It is supposed to be a bit faster.
>
> You might find this article useful:
Yes I did - thanks.
Paul
>
> http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2128&p=1
>
> Regards,
> Shane
>
>
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
October 29, 2004 12:52:20 PM

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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:54:11 GMT, "none" <none@none.com> wrote:

>Actually it seems every new socket type is an upgrade dead end. The 754
>isn't really any more dead than 939 is. Seems every new generations of
>processors they go and change the socket type on the motherboards just so
>they can make more money.
>

yeah, you'd think the "experts" would have figured that out by now.

esp love the one's still waiting for.... (insert dream du jour here).
October 30, 2004 12:23:44 AM

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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:52:20 -0700, <buy this now> wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:54:11 GMT, "none" <none@none.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually it seems every new socket type is an upgrade dead end. The 754
>> isn't really any more dead than 939 is. Seems every new generations of
>> processors they go and change the socket type on the motherboards just
>> so
>> they can make more money.
>>
>
> yeah, you'd think the "experts" would have figured that out by now.
>
> esp love the one's still waiting for.... (insert dream du jour here).
>
>

I switched from Intel to AMD because there was a better "upgradebillity"
.....

If AMD is going to change this policy...............................

I will yust switch back, so AMD has to show color in the coming few
months when I'm going to by a new computer.


Bonobo

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October 30, 2004 12:23:45 AM

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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:23:44 +0200, Bonobo <news.wanadoo.nl> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:52:20 -0700, <buy this now> wrote:

>> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:54:11 GMT, "none" <none@none.com> wrote:

>>> Actually it seems every new socket type is an upgrade dead end. The 754
>>> isn't really any more dead than 939 is. Seems every new generations of
>>> processors they go and change the socket type on the motherboards just
>>> so they can make more money.

>> yeah, you'd think the "experts" would have figured that out by now.

>> esp love the one's still waiting for.... (insert dream du jour here).

>I switched from Intel to AMD because there was a better "upgradebillity"
>....

>If AMD is going to change this policy...............................
>
>I will yust switch back, so AMD has to show color in the coming few
>months when I'm going to by a new computer.

Well that's not very daring, stick with the winners - AMD
you Dutch devil 8-;)

>Bonobo

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