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a b K Overclocking
November 17, 2004 9:48:16 PM

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I recently burnt out a 2000 MP Cpu. I am lookign for a replacement. I had
two installed, bought same time. Correcet me if i am wrong, but the batch
number and such does not need to be the same for AMD as in Intel does it ?

John

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Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
November 18, 2004 5:25:36 PM

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John Theriault wrote:
> I recently burnt out a 2000 MP Cpu. I am lookign for a replacement. I
> had two installed, bought same time. Correcet me if i am wrong, but
> the batch number and such does not need to be the same for AMD as in
> Intel does it ?

It just needs to be the same model, and same CPUID. Depending on when you
got your CPU, it may be a Palomino, TBred A, TBred B or Thorton. All of
these have different CPUIDs. The only ones you can get new nowadays are the
Thorton and the TBred B (not sure of relative percentages of these for MPs,
but they're both sold with the same package so you need to be careful). If
you've got a Palomino or TBred A you're going to have to try and get one
second hand. Note that you don't have to get an exactly matching chip if you
get an unlocked one (as all MPs still are IIRC) as you can paint the pins to
get the desired multiplier. Another option would be to buy a couple XP's and
mod them, but that depends a bit on your board and how much money you have
:) 

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Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
November 18, 2004 5:25:37 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd (More info?)

> It just needs to be the same model, and same CPUID. Depending on when you
> got your CPU, it may be a Palomino, TBred A, TBred B or Thorton. All of
> these have different CPUIDs. The only ones you can get new nowadays are
the
> Thorton and the TBred B (not sure of relative percentages of these for
MPs,
> but they're both sold with the same package so you need to be careful). If
> you've got a Palomino or TBred A you're going to have to try and get one
> second hand. Note that you don't have to get an exactly matching chip if
you
> get an unlocked one (as all MPs still are IIRC) as you can paint the pins
to
> get the desired multiplier. Another option would be to buy a couple XP's
and
> mod them, but that depends a bit on your board and how much money you have
> :) 

I was under the impression that MPs were unlocked precisely for allowing
two dissimilar chips to run in the same board, and that the faster would
automatically have the multiplier dropped to match the slower - but of
course, I've never tried it.

I had on of a pair of 1800MPs go up on me, because it was at the office
and I didn't have to foot the bill, I just told them to buy me a pair of
Barton 2800 MPs. Man, that's a fast desktop machine. : )

steve
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Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
November 18, 2004 10:17:50 PM

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So you can't mix a Palomino with a tbred a or b what so ever?

John

"Michael Brown" <see@signature.below> wrote in message
news:TTSmd.3398$9A.129819@news.xtra.co.nz...
> John Theriault wrote:
>> I recently burnt out a 2000 MP Cpu. I am lookign for a replacement. I
>> had two installed, bought same time. Correcet me if i am wrong, but
>> the batch number and such does not need to be the same for AMD as in
>> Intel does it ?
>
> It just needs to be the same model, and same CPUID. Depending on when you
> got your CPU, it may be a Palomino, TBred A, TBred B or Thorton. All of
> these have different CPUIDs. The only ones you can get new nowadays are
> the
> Thorton and the TBred B (not sure of relative percentages of these for
> MPs,
> but they're both sold with the same package so you need to be careful). If
> you've got a Palomino or TBred A you're going to have to try and get one
> second hand. Note that you don't have to get an exactly matching chip if
> you
> get an unlocked one (as all MPs still are IIRC) as you can paint the pins
> to
> get the desired multiplier. Another option would be to buy a couple XP's
> and
> mod them, but that depends a bit on your board and how much money you have
> :) 
>
> --
> Michael Brown
> www.emboss.co.nz : OOS/RSI software and more :) 
> Add michael@ to emboss.co.nz - My inbox is always open
>
>
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
November 18, 2004 10:51:34 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd (More info?)

I don't suspose you guys know where I can get a 1900 - 2200 Mp PAL core :p 

John


"John Theriault" <johnspam@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:5YednWvZyLuzSAbcRVn-tw@rogers.com...
>I recently burnt out a 2000 MP Cpu. I am lookign for a replacement. I had
>two installed, bought same time. Correcet me if i am wrong, but the batch
>number and such does not need to be the same for AMD as in Intel does it ?
>
> John
>
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
November 19, 2004 1:50:42 PM

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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 19:51:34 -0400, John Theriault wrote:

> I don't suspose you guys know where I can get a 1900 - 2200 Mp PAL core :p 
>
Yeah, you buy the regular Palomino core XP and then set the MP bit
(L5-4) on it. Now you have an MP. No need to fill the laser cut if you
draw a semi-circle around it.

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