oc abit nf7-s rev 2 athlon xp 2400+

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my spec are
mb abit nf7-s rev 2 with 512mb pc3200 dual channel
processor athlon xp 2400+ video is asus 9550 ge 128/128mb sound sb live 5.1
hd 40gb.


I would like to oc the cpu but each time i try it won't let me oc the thing
could it be the cpu cant be oc or the mb won't let me .

so thanks in advance
jean
 

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Ok, I'm assuming the cpu is multiplier locked, so all you can do is oc the
fsb and memory.

These are all bios settings:
Softmenu page
CPU==User Defined
Fsb==200 (we'll start here)
Multiplier==whatever the stock is
PowerSupply==User Defined
CoreVolts==1.8v (just a starting point, you can probably go lower)
DDRVolts==maximum setting (you can't hurt ram by overvolting)
ChipsetVolts==maximum setting (same)
AGPVolts==1.7v
OverTempProtect==65C (whatever the lowest setting is)

Advanced Chipset page
Memory Timings==Expert
memory values == 10-3-3-2.5 (the 2.5 may be 2.0, depending on what you
bought)
System/Bios cacheble==Disabled
AGP Aperture=(size of videocard ram)
ThermalThrottling==Disabled
AGP Rate==4x
AGP FastWrites==Disabled

PC Health page
Shutdown Temp 65C (or whatever is close to this)
Warning Temp 63C
Shutdown CPU Fan Fail==Disabled

One of these pages has an entry for Clock Variation in % (I've forgotten the
term). Just disable it.
Disable any unused peripherals or ports

Report back on your results with these settings, please.

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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:57:39 -0500, Jean wrote:

> my spec are
> mb abit nf7-s rev 2 with 512mb pc3200 dual channel processor athlon xp
> 2400+ video is asus 9550 ge 128/128mb sound sb live 5.1 hd 40gb.
>
>
> I would like to oc the cpu but each time i try it won't let me oc the
> thing could it be the cpu cant be oc or the mb won't let me .
>
No. You just aren't doing something right. Multiplier x FSB = cpu speed.
Default for 2400+ is 15x133 (2000MHz). If your cpu isn't locked then you
should get 13x166 easy. If it's locked, then raise the FSB to about
145Mhz. You may need to raise vcore slightly for this.

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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:42:47 +0000, rms wrote:

> Ok, I'm assuming the cpu is multiplier locked, so all you can do is oc the
> fsb and memory.
>
> These are all bios settings:
> Softmenu page
> CPU==User Defined
> Fsb==200 (we'll start here)
> Report back on your results with these settings, please.
>
That's an easy one. No need to try it. It won't boot. 15x200=3000MHz.:)

He may be able to get close to 166 FSB for 2500MHz, but I wouldn't count
on it. More like about 160 for a max (15x160=2400MHz).

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> That's an easy one. No need to try it. It won't boot. 15x200=3000MHz.:)

haha, are you serious? That's the 2400+ default multiplier?

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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 01:10:58 +0000, rms wrote:

>> That's an easy one. No need to try it. It won't boot. 15x200=3000MHz.:)
>
> haha, are you serious? That's the 2400+ default multiplier?
>
Yep, it's 15x133. Now a 200MHZ bus should work fine for a 2500+XP. it's
default is 11x166.

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"Wes Newell" <w.newell@TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:57:39 -0500, Jean wrote:
>
>> my spec are
>> mb abit nf7-s rev 2 with 512mb pc3200 dual channel processor athlon xp
>> 2400+ video is asus 9550 ge 128/128mb sound sb live 5.1 hd 40gb.
>>
>>
>> I would like to oc the cpu but each time i try it won't let me oc the
>> thing could it be the cpu cant be oc or the mb won't let me .
>>
> No. You just aren't doing something right. Multiplier x FSB = cpu speed.
> Default for 2400+ is 15x133 (2000MHz). If your cpu isn't locked then you
> should get 13x166 easy. If it's locked, then raise the FSB to about
> 145Mhz. You may need to raise vcore slightly for this.
>
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> Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm

how the hell is a normal 2400+ 2 mhz when my 2600+ not oc'd is 1.9 mhz!
 

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"rms" <rsquires@flashREMOVE.net> wrote in message
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> Ok, I'm assuming the cpu is multiplier locked, so all you can do is oc the
> fsb and memory.
>
> These are all bios settings:
> Softmenu page
> CPU==User Defined
> Fsb==200 (we'll start here)
> Multiplier==whatever the stock is
> PowerSupply==User Defined
> CoreVolts==1.8v (just a starting point, you can probably go lower)
> DDRVolts==maximum setting (you can't hurt ram by overvolting)
> ChipsetVolts==maximum setting (same)
> AGPVolts==1.7v
> OverTempProtect==65C (whatever the lowest setting is)
>
for the fsb i can't use more then 145 and even then its not looking right

> Advanced Chipset page
> Memory Timings==Expert
> memory values == 10-3-3-2.5 (the 2.5 may be 2.0, depending on what you
> bought)
> System/Bios cacheble==Disabled
> AGP Aperture=(size of videocard ram)
> ThermalThrottling==Disabled
> AGP Rate==4x
> AGP FastWrites==Disabled
>
Why agp 4x when the card use 8x ????



> PC Health page
> Shutdown Temp 65C (or whatever is close to this)
> Warning Temp 63C
> Shutdown CPU Fan Fail==Disabled
>
> One of these pages has an entry for Clock Variation in % (I've forgotten
> the term). Just disable it.
> Disable any unused peripherals or ports
>
> Report back on your results with these settings, please.
>
> rms
>like i said i can't get more then 145 for the fsb.
so i think i will try to get another cpu or another board ...

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"Christo" <chris@juststuffd.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> No. You just aren't doing something right. Multiplier x FSB = cpu speed.
>> Default for 2400+ is 15x133 (2000MHz). If your cpu isn't locked then you
>> should get 13x166 easy. If it's locked, then raise the FSB to about
>> 145Mhz. You may need to raise vcore slightly for this.
>>
>> --
>> Abit KT7-Raid (KT133) Tbred B core CPU @2400MHz (24x100FSB)
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0exft/cpu.htm
>
> how the hell is a normal 2400+ 2 mhz when my 2600+ not oc'd is 1.9 mhz!

Athlon 2400+ (133x15) = 2000mhz
Barton (?) 2600+ (166x11.5) = 1916mhz

fsb and L2 cache supposedly
 
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:57:50 +0000, Christo wrote:

> how the hell is a normal 2400+ 2 mhz when my 2600+ not oc'd is 1.9 mhz!

Because the 2400+ is a Tbred core and the 2600+ you are talking about is
a Barton core. The 2600+ tbred core runs at 16x133 (2133MHz) for the /266
model, and 12.5x166 (2083MHz) for the /333 model. Any of the tbred models
(including the 2400+) will outperform the Barton 2600+ in cpu intensive
task.

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>Any of the tbred models
> (including the 2400+) will outperform the Barton 2600+ in cpu intensive
> task.

This makes no sense whatever. The barton has twice the cache.

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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:25:42 +0000, rms wrote:

>>Any of the tbred models
>> (including the 2400+) will outperform the Barton 2600+ in cpu intensive
>> task.
>
> This makes no sense whatever. The barton has twice the cache.
>
Makes perfect sense. Cache isn't used unless needed. So if only 100K is
used for a task, which cpu do you think will perform beter, one at 2000MHz
and 256K cache or one at 1916Mhz and 512K cache. It's really that simple.
Just like the dual channel memory, extra cache is way over rated and over
hyped. Both only add minor improvements to performance. and actually are a
henderence in some cases.

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