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September 21, 2005 2:40:45 PM

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I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking about with video
files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried to free up some
space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no apparent increase in
reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton System works and a
virus scan to no avail.

I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and also have a second
HD 120GB.

Any advice would be appreciated

Regards

John

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Anonymous
September 21, 2005 2:40:46 PM

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See if defrag will run after you purge the Norton System
Works backups.



--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



"John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u4$4MCpvFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
|I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking
about with video
| files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried
to free up some
| space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no
apparent increase in
| reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton
System works and a
| virus scan to no avail.
|
| I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and
also have a second
| HD 120GB.
|
| Any advice would be appreciated
|
| Regards
|
| John
|
|
Anonymous
September 21, 2005 2:40:46 PM

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You have to empty both the regular recycle bin ***AND*** the "Norton
Protected Recycle Bin" to reclaim the space that was used by the deleted
files.


--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

"John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u4$4MCpvFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking about with video
> files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried to free up some
> space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no apparent increase in
> reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton System works and
> a
> virus scan to no avail.
>
> I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and also have a
> second
> HD 120GB.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
>
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Anonymous
September 21, 2005 2:40:46 PM

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Do you have System Restore turned on for that drive? What kind of limits
have you set for it's size on the drive? What is the size of the System
Volume Information directory on the drive?

"John" wrote:

> I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking about with video
> files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried to free up some
> space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no apparent increase in
> reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton System works and a
> virus scan to no avail.
>
> I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and also have a second
> HD 120GB.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
>
>
September 21, 2005 4:36:22 PM

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Thanks Richard but XP said the file was too big for the recycle bin. I
think disc clean up takes care of the smaller files.

Regards

John

"Richard Urban [MVP]" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ud5XErpvFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> You have to empty both the regular recycle bin ***AND*** the "Norton
> Protected Recycle Bin" to reclaim the space that was used by the deleted
> files.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> Quote from: George Ankner
> "If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
>
> "John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u4$4MCpvFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking about with video
> > files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried to free up
some
> > space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no apparent increase
in
> > reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton System works
and
> > a
> > virus scan to no avail.
> >
> > I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and also have a
> > second
> > HD 120GB.
> >
> > Any advice would be appreciated
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>
>
September 21, 2005 4:39:00 PM

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I was planning to defrag after deleting the files Jim. I did try it anyway
but apart from being mighty slow I'm not sure if there is enough free space
to perform the task.

Regards

John

"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:u$2ifWpvFHA.664@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> See if defrag will run after you purge the Norton System
> Works backups.
>
>
>
> --
> The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> some support
> http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
>
>
>
> "John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u4$4MCpvFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> |I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking
> about with video
> | files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried
> to free up some
> | space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no
> apparent increase in
> | reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton
> System works and a
> | virus scan to no avail.
> |
> | I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and
> also have a second
> | HD 120GB.
> |
> | Any advice would be appreciated
> |
> | Regards
> |
> | John
> |
> |
>
>
September 21, 2005 7:30:54 PM

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Unfortunately, again to free space, I deleted all but the last system
restore points. I do not know how long ago this problem manifested itself
and I had not recently installed any new programs. Again no change in the
free space.

Regards

John

"usasma" <usasma@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D 0F6F75C-DE02-47F3-8605-4AA571284B5F@microsoft.com...
> Do you have System Restore turned on for that drive? What kind of limits
> have you set for it's size on the drive? What is the size of the System
> Volume Information directory on the drive?
>
> "John" wrote:
>
> > I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking about with video
> > files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried to free up
some
> > space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no apparent increase
in
> > reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton System works
and a
> > virus scan to no avail.
> >
> > I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and also have a
second
> > HD 120GB.
> >
> > Any advice would be appreciated
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
Anonymous
September 21, 2005 7:30:55 PM

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This defrag product claims to need only 5% free space to function compared to
Diskeeper's 20%.. Have you tried chkdsk (chkdsk /f) at the cmd prompt to free
up free space that is being reported as allocated by windows?
http://www.raxco.com/products/perfectdisk2k/
j;-j

"John" wrote:

> Unfortunately, again to free space, I deleted all but the last system
> restore points. I do not know how long ago this problem manifested itself
> and I had not recently installed any new programs. Again no change in the
> free space.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> "usasma" <usasma@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D 0F6F75C-DE02-47F3-8605-4AA571284B5F@microsoft.com...
> > Do you have System Restore turned on for that drive? What kind of limits
> > have you set for it's size on the drive? What is the size of the System
> > Volume Information directory on the drive?
> >
> > "John" wrote:
> >
> > > I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking about with video
> > > files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried to free up
> some
> > > space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no apparent increase
> in
> > > reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton System works
> and a
> > > virus scan to no avail.
> > >
> > > I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and also have a
> second
> > > HD 120GB.
> > >
> > > Any advice would be appreciated
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
Anonymous
September 21, 2005 8:57:50 PM

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XP is talking about the XP recycle bin. Norton catches what the regular
recycle bin does not. Empty the Norton Protected Recycle Bin.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

"John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23Vq%230CqvFHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Richard but XP said the file was too big for the recycle bin. I
> think disc clean up takes care of the smaller files.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> "Richard Urban [MVP]" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message
> news:ud5XErpvFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> You have to empty both the regular recycle bin ***AND*** the "Norton
>> Protected Recycle Bin" to reclaim the space that was used by the deleted
>> files.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> Quote from: George Ankner
>> "If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
>>
>> "John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u4$4MCpvFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking about with video
>> > files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried to free up
> some
>> > space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no apparent increase
> in
>> > reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton System works
> and
>> > a
>> > virus scan to no avail.
>> >
>> > I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and also have a
>> > second
>> > HD 120GB.
>> >
>> > Any advice would be appreciated
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
September 22, 2005 2:01:38 PM

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Richard ... You are the man!

I tried your suggestion last night and sure enough I recovered about 60GB.
Such a simple solution. Doh! Can't understand why System works did not clean
this lot out during last scan which is why I did not bother looking there
before.

Anyway, a big thank you to you for your help. Very much appreciated.

Regards

John

PS Thanks too to all other posters. I will go for the defrag now.

"Richard Urban [MVP]" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uhp$f8uvFHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> XP is talking about the XP recycle bin. Norton catches what the regular
> recycle bin does not. Empty the Norton Protected Recycle Bin.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> Quote from: George Ankner
> "If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
>
> "John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Vq%230CqvFHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks Richard but XP said the file was too big for the recycle bin. I
> > think disc clean up takes care of the smaller files.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> > "Richard Urban [MVP]" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > message
> > news:ud5XErpvFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> You have to empty both the regular recycle bin ***AND*** the "Norton
> >> Protected Recycle Bin" to reclaim the space that was used by the
deleted
> >> files.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Richard Urban
> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >> Quote from: George Ankner
> >> "If you knew as much as you think you know,
> >> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
> >>
> >> "John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:u4$4MCpvFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> >I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking about with
video
> >> > files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried to free up
> > some
> >> > space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no apparent
increase
> > in
> >> > reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton System works
> > and
> >> > a
> >> > virus scan to no avail.
> >> >
> >> > I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and also have a
> >> > second
> >> > HD 120GB.
> >> >
> >> > Any advice would be appreciated
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
September 22, 2005 7:23:18 PM

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Norton Protected Recycle Bin is the chance of "last recall".

Windows XP disk cleanup does not touch it. Indeed, even a cleanup from
SystemWorks will not touch it. YOU have to make it happen. It is there for
when you screw up and delete something, empty the recycle bin - and then say
"oops"!

There was a fellow who once posted here who wanted to know if he could
recover something emptied from the Norton bin. I guess he wanted a third,
and maybe even a fourth, chance to recover from his continual screw ups. (-:

Some people just shouldn't be allowed to use computers without first passing
a test!

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

"John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u61JAR1vFHA.2164@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Richard ... You are the man!
>
> I tried your suggestion last night and sure enough I recovered about 60GB.
> Such a simple solution. Doh! Can't understand why System works did not
> clean
> this lot out during last scan which is why I did not bother looking there
> before.
>
> Anyway, a big thank you to you for your help. Very much appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> PS Thanks too to all other posters. I will go for the defrag now.
>
> "Richard Urban [MVP]" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message
> news:uhp$f8uvFHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> XP is talking about the XP recycle bin. Norton catches what the regular
>> recycle bin does not. Empty the Norton Protected Recycle Bin.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> Quote from: George Ankner
>> "If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
>>
>> "John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23Vq%230CqvFHA.3152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > Thanks Richard but XP said the file was too big for the recycle bin. I
>> > think disc clean up takes care of the smaller files.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > "Richard Urban [MVP]" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:ud5XErpvFHA.904@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> You have to empty both the regular recycle bin ***AND*** the "Norton
>> >> Protected Recycle Bin" to reclaim the space that was used by the
> deleted
>> >> files.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Richard Urban
>> >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> >>
>> >> Quote from: George Ankner
>> >> "If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> >> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
>> >>
>> >> "John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:u4$4MCpvFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> >I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking about with
> video
>> >> > files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried to free up
>> > some
>> >> > space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no apparent
> increase
>> > in
>> >> > reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton System
>> >> > works
>> > and
>> >> > a
>> >> > virus scan to no avail.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and also have a
>> >> > second
>> >> > HD 120GB.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any advice would be appreciated
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards
>> >> >
>> >> > John
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
September 22, 2005 7:23:19 PM

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Force that type of user to carve documents in stone tablets I say! <VBG>

Richard Urban [MVP] wrote:
> Norton Protected Recycle Bin is the chance of "last recall".
>
> Windows XP disk cleanup does not touch it. Indeed, even a cleanup from
> SystemWorks will not touch it. YOU have to make it happen. It is there for
> when you screw up and delete something, empty the recycle bin - and then say
> "oops"!
>
> There was a fellow who once posted here who wanted to know if he could
> recover something emptied from the Norton bin. I guess he wanted a third,
> and maybe even a fourth, chance to recover from his continual screw ups. (-:
>
> Some people just shouldn't be allowed to use computers without first passing
> a test!
>
September 22, 2005 9:53:14 PM

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John, why don't you transfer some of the bigger files to the partitioned
drive since it is large, you need at least 1GB free space to perform a
defrag


"Jaymon" <Jaymon@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:82EF05C5-14AB-4217-98EF-AD6CFB27681D@microsoft.com...
> This defrag product claims to need only 5% free space to function compared
> to
> Diskeeper's 20%.. Have you tried chkdsk (chkdsk /f) at the cmd prompt to
> free
> up free space that is being reported as allocated by windows?
> http://www.raxco.com/products/perfectdisk2k/
> j;-j
>
> "John" wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, again to free space, I deleted all but the last system
>> restore points. I do not know how long ago this problem manifested itself
>> and I had not recently installed any new programs. Again no change in the
>> free space.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John
>>
>> "usasma" <usasma@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:D 0F6F75C-DE02-47F3-8605-4AA571284B5F@microsoft.com...
>> > Do you have System Restore turned on for that drive? What kind of
>> > limits
>> > have you set for it's size on the drive? What is the size of the
>> > System
>> > Volume Information directory on the drive?
>> >
>> > "John" wrote:
>> >
>> > > I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking about with
>> > > video
>> > > files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried to free up
>> some
>> > > space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no apparent
>> > > increase
>> in
>> > > reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton System works
>> and a
>> > > virus scan to no avail.
>> > >
>> > > I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and also have a
>> second
>> > > HD 120GB.
>> > >
>> > > Any advice would be appreciated
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > > John
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
September 23, 2005 11:37:07 PM

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You can also download CCleaner to find any extra junk that is residing on
that system partition. This is a very safe product to use.
http://www.ccleaner.com


"John" <JohnClarry@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u4$4MCpvFHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I have a 300GB HD which got quite full as I was mucking about with video
> files. Explorer tells me there is 6GB free. I have tried to free up some
> space by deleting some unneeded files but there is no apparent increase in
> reported free space. I have run Disk cleanup and Norton System works and
> a
> virus scan to no avail.
>
> I am running XPSP2 on a 30GB partition of this drive and also have a
> second
> HD 120GB.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
>
!