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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:03:49 GMT, Wes Newell
<w.newell@TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 13:36:07 -0700, jojo wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:55:24 -0500, "Big Red" <yruhere@myhouse.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I am in need of another pc in the house so naturally I want to upgrade mine.
>>>What kind of overclocking can I expect on a Athlon 64 2800+ with a Asus K8N
>>>board ?
>>
>> Suggest you start a little higher than the 2800. You want to shoot for
>> around a 3600 speed. So start with a 3200 or 3400 cpu.
>>
>He can get the same speed out of a 2800+ as he can out of a 3400+, for a
>lot less money, so why pay more?
>
>> I think the cpu's are cheaper than the fancy high bandwidth ram.
>
>You don't really need real fast ram. Even with PC2700 ram you can clock
>the FSB to 266MHz without overclocking the ram. You don't loose as much
>running out of sync in the K8 as you did with the K7. And now with 512MB
>of PC3200 ram below $35, well, that's fricking cheap.
ick PC2700
Let's think positively here:
[excerpt from new E core review]
Every time a new Athlon 64 processor core come out AMD engineers
continue tuning up their integrated memory controller. Note that this
is done not only for the sake of increasing the processor performance,
but mostly in order to extend the compatibility of this memory
controller with the different DIMM modules and their configurations.
The previous 90nm Athlon 64 processor core aka Winchester had certain
performance limitations when four DDR400 SDRAM modules were used. If
there were four single-side DDR400 SDRAM DIMMs installed in a system
with a Winchester based Athlon 64 CPU, they could only work with the
2T timing, which caused a few percent drop below the usual performance
level. If there were four double-side memory modules installed, DDR400
SDRAM would not work at all and its working frequency would
automatically drop down to 333MHz.
AMD engineers promised to eliminate this problem in the new Venice
core and they did keep their word. Athlon 64 processors based on
Venice can work with four single-side DDR400 SDRAM modules without any
limitations, and if there are double-side DDR400 SDRAM DIMMs
installed, they can work at 400MHz with 2T timing.
Besides wider compatibility of the Venice’s memory controller, it also
got noticeably faster. Among the tweaks implemented in Venice we
should definitely point out enhanced hardware data prefetch and more
write combining buffers (4 instead of 2).
All these improvements should help Venice based Athlon 64 processor to
outperform their counterparts based on the older core revisions but
working at the same clock frequency. And the performance gain will be
more noticeable if there are four memory modules installed in the
system.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-venice.html