Winchester vs. Venice

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Hello all,

At this moment I'm in the market for another CPU (AMD64-939 /3000+).

I know there is a new Core... Venice i.s.o. the "old" winchester (another
nm technology)

Why should I go for the Venice or the Winchester, I asked AMD technical
info.
I got the message that I should search there DB.
But that answer is not there.... (only nm differance) so back to
start....


Who can tell me some "importand" differances..
how do both overclock.... or not...

TIA


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Wes Newell skrev:
> On Fri, 20 May 2005 12:32:40 +0200, Bonobo wrote:
>
>
>>Who can tell me some "importand" differances..
>>how do both overclock.... or not...
>>
>
> Yahoo or Google search can.
> Results 1 - 10 of about 1,190,000 for venice core - 0.08 sec
>
hi

venice has a faster memory interface. both are much cooler than 130nm, through winchester
won that by some few degrees (don't matter).

coco

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On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:59:23 GMT, CoCo <cocotmREMOVEremove@telia.com>
wrote:

> CoCo skrev:
>> Wes Newell skrev:
>>
>>> On Fri, 20 May 2005 12:32:40 +0200, Bonobo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Who can tell me some "importand" differances..
>>>> how do both overclock.... or not...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo or Google search can.
>>> Results 1 - 10 of about 1,190,000 for venice core - 0.08 sec
>>>
>> hi
>> venice has a faster memory interface. both are much cooler than 130nm,
>> through winchester won that by some few degrees (don't matter).
>> coco
> to read:
>
> http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_venice/


Thanks CoCo, nice info.
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Get the Venice if you can find one. It supports SSE3 and has a modified
memory controller so that you can populate all four memory banks at tighter
memory timings.

The Winchester maxes out at about 2.5-2.6ghz and the Venice maxes out at
about 2.6-2.7ghz.

"Bonobo" <news.wanadoo.nl> wrote in message newspsq2kwqexabsjsi@h-l.lan...
>
> Hello all,
>
> At this moment I'm in the market for another CPU (AMD64-939 /3000+).
>
> I know there is a new Core... Venice i.s.o. the "old" winchester (another
> nm technology)
>
> Why should I go for the Venice or the Winchester, I asked AMD technical
> info.
> I got the message that I should search there DB.
> But that answer is not there.... (only nm differance) so back to
> start....
>
>
> Who can tell me some "importand" differances..
> how do both overclock.... or not...
>
> TIA
>
>
> --
> DutchDareDevil

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Bonobo skrev:
> Thanks you all for the info..!!
>
> SSE3 / better mem controller... mmmm, I'm not an expert but does this
> mean I need a newer Bios to for this options??? than is already on de
> mobo's in the shop right now...
>
> Newbee
>
>
> On Sat, 21 May 2005 10:33:54 -0400, LBJGH <bite_mee@hotsnail.back> wrote:
>
>> Get the Venice if you can find one. It supports SSE3 and has a modified
>> memory controller so that you can populate all four memory banks at
>> tighter
>> memory timings.
>>
>> The Winchester maxes out at about 2.5-2.6ghz and the Venice maxes out at
>> about 2.6-2.7ghz.
>>
>> "Bonobo" <news.wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
>> newspsq2kwqexabsjsi@h-l.lan...
>>
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> At this moment I'm in the market for another CPU (AMD64-939 /3000+).
>>>
>>> I know there is a new Core... Venice i.s.o. the "old" winchester
>>> (another
>>> nm technology)
>>>
>>> Why should I go for the Venice or the Winchester, I asked AMD
>>> technical
>>> info.
>>> I got the message that I should search there DB.
>>> But that answer is not there.... (only nm differance) so back to
>>> start....
>>>
>>>
>>> Who can tell me some "importand" differances..
>>> how do both overclock.... or not...
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> DutchDareDevil
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
maybe

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I don't see it (yet) on the MSI site.... but I will keep it in
reminder.... thanks...

On Sun, 22 May 2005 11:21:40 GMT, Piers James
<nospam.forme@spamkiller.com> wrote:

> you will almost certainly need a new BIOS to support a new core suchas
> Venice.
>
>
> "Bonobo" <news.wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
> newspsq5xv2jbabsjsi@h-l.lan...
>> Thanks you all for the info..!!
>>
>> SSE3 / better mem controller... mmmm, I'm not an expert but does this
>> mean
>> I need a newer Bios to for this options??? than is already on de mobo's
>> in
>> the shop right now...
>>
>> Newbee
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 21 May 2005 10:33:54 -0400, LBJGH <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Get the Venice if you can find one. It supports SSE3 and has a
>>> modified
>>> memory controller so that you can populate all four memory banks at
>>> tighter
>>> memory timings.
>>>
>>> The Winchester maxes out at about 2.5-2.6ghz and the Venice maxes out
>>> at
>>> about 2.6-2.7ghz.
>>>
>>> "Bonobo" <news.wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
>>> newspsq2kwqexabsjsi@h-l.lan...
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> At this moment I'm in the market for another CPU (AMD64-939 /3000+).
>>>>
>>>> I know there is a new Core... Venice i.s.o. the "old" winchester
>>>> (another
>>>> nm technology)
>>>>
>>>> Why should I go for the Venice or the Winchester, I asked AMD
>>>> technical
>>>> info.
>>>> I got the message that I should search there DB.
>>>> But that answer is not there.... (only nm differance) so back to
>>>> start....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who can tell me some "importand" differances..
>>>> how do both overclock.... or not...
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> DutchDareDevil
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> DutchDareDevil
>
>



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Thanks Thanks.... Just ordered (yesterday) this MSI so I think It should
have the new bios.
If not I know what to look for..

Regards,

Bonobo

On Mon, 23 May 2005 17:49:19 GMT, Piers James
<nospam.forme@spamkiller.com> wrote:

> You mentioned MSI in a later reply. They have jst updated the BIOS to
> v1.4
> for the K8N Neo4 Platinum, and it includes support for revision E cores,
> which I presume are Venice, so you might want to check your mobo and see
> if
> there is an update.
>
>
> "Bonobo" <news.wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
> newspsq2kwqexabsjsi@h-l.lan...
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> At this moment I'm in the market for another CPU (AMD64-939 /3000+).
>>
>> I know there is a new Core... Venice i.s.o. the "old" winchester
>> (another
>> nm technology)
>>
>> Why should I go for the Venice or the Winchester, I asked AMD
>> technical
>> info.
>> I got the message that I should search there DB.
>> But that answer is not there.... (only nm differance) so back to
>> start....
>>
>>
>> Who can tell me some "importand" differances..
>> how do both overclock.... or not...
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>> --
>> DutchDareDevil
>
>



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