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A few months ago at the suggestion of a friend whom was a devote AMD
person but went to Intel I went from a:


AMD Athlon XP-A, 1921 MHz (11.5 x 167) 2600+ Barton core
Asus A7N8X Deluxe (5 PCI, 1 AGP Pro, 3 DDR DIMM, Dual LAN, IEEE-1394)
nVIDIA nForce2 SPP
1024 MB (DDR SDRAM) 512MB x 2 Wintec/Corsair
SB LIVE! 5.1 Gamer
ATI Radeon 9600 XT

to this:

Intel Pentium 4 530, 3000 MHz (15 x 200) Prescott Socket 775
Asus P5P800 (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN)
Intel Springdale i865PE
2048 MB (DDR SDRAM) 512MB x 4 Corsair CMX512-3200LL XMS
SB0350 Audigy 2 ZS Gamer
ATI Radeon 9600 XT

=======================================================================================

I mainly use my PC for gaming but had never went to the Intel camp.
Anyway I'm not very happy with the Intel system. With my old AMD I had
the best of two worlds. A possessor with 3D NOW! and a nVIDIA chipset!
I do give the Intel credit for video rendering it is very powerful but
I want a machine for gaming.

So I'm asking the group for some recommendations on a new AMD Athlon
64 or 64FX System (maximum price at $230.00). Also which core is best
(i.e. ClawHammer, Newcastle, Winchester, Venice and so on)? I only
buy Asus motherboards so please recommend which Asus models for mobos.
I have a RADEON X850 XT PE already lined up for the new system.

Thank you!

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For core, look for Venice and San Diego on socket 939, because S939 allows
for dual ram and Venice (512KB Cache ) or San Diego (1024KB Cache) are
produced in 90nm.
Both run cool; mine is a SD 4000+ and is 37º C when the mobo is 26º C. On
full load might rise 43º C. Air cooling with Thermaright XP-120 almost
noiseless.
For the mobo I would recommend a nVidia nForce4 Ultra chipset.

Beyond these points I guest is a budget matter.

Reply to Anonymous

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You just bought the wrong Intel stuff.



I have owned more AMD cpu's then Intel but my current system a P4 with hyper
threading. I run at 3800Mhz with over a 250Mhz FSB with an i875. Memory bus
at 1:1 making about 6200mb/s memory bandwidth with two 512 sticks of OCZ.
The intel chip supports SSE3 and has a 1M of L2 cache.



I have a couple of 2600+ Bartons on a NF2 boards at work as well a couple of
P4C's (with HT) for Graphic and Multimedia design. The P4's are by far the
favorites.

I made the mistake of using a Barton setup as a backup domain server. I
needed it one day and moved a boat load of data to it for a day or two
temporarily, the machine came to an utter stall (unusable) with more then a
few people on a database. I then moved the data base to a P4e 2.6ghz machine
which handled it just fine.



At home, I just can NOT live without either a dual processor or a chip with
Hyper Threading.





"Ronald Reitch LMT" <myemail@email.net> wrote in message
news:fcguc19tka78p63atf59bnnf5tgh5mevtu@4ax.com...
>A few months ago at the suggestion of a friend whom was a devote AMD
> person but went to Intel I went from a:
>
>
> AMD Athlon XP-A, 1921 MHz (11.5 x 167) 2600+ Barton core
> Asus A7N8X Deluxe (5 PCI, 1 AGP Pro, 3 DDR DIMM, Dual LAN, IEEE-1394)
> nVIDIA nForce2 SPP
> 1024 MB (DDR SDRAM) 512MB x 2 Wintec/Corsair
> SB LIVE! 5.1 Gamer
> ATI Radeon 9600 XT
>
> to this:
>
> Intel Pentium 4 530, 3000 MHz (15 x 200) Prescott Socket 775
> Asus P5P800 (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN)
> Intel Springdale i865PE
> 2048 MB (DDR SDRAM) 512MB x 4 Corsair CMX512-3200LL XMS
> SB0350 Audigy 2 ZS Gamer
> ATI Radeon 9600 XT
>
> =======================================================================================
>
> I mainly use my PC for gaming but had never went to the Intel camp.
> Anyway I'm not very happy with the Intel system. With my old AMD I had
> the best of two worlds. A possessor with 3D NOW! and a nVIDIA chipset!
> I do give the Intel credit for video rendering it is very powerful but
> I want a machine for gaming.
>
> So I'm asking the group for some recommendations on a new AMD Athlon
> 64 or 64FX System (maximum price at $230.00). Also which core is best
> (i.e. ClawHammer, Newcastle, Winchester, Venice and so on)? I only
> buy Asus motherboards so please recommend which Asus models for mobos.
> I have a RADEON X850 XT PE already lined up for the new system.
>
> Thank you!
>

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Ronald Reitch LMT wrote:

" So I'm asking the group for some recommendations on a new AMD Athlon
64 or 64FX System (maximum price at $230.00). Also which core is best
(i.e. ClawHammer, Newcastle, Winchester, Venice and so on)? I only
buy Asus motherboards so please recommend which Asus models for mobos.
I have a RADEON X850 XT PE already lined up for the new system. "

The 90nm Venice and San Diego cores are the newest and best, and also
have the implementation of SSE3. If you only have $230 to spend on the
processor, then you can only afford a Venice 3000+ or 3200+, but .
You'll need to add a little extra to get 3500+.

http://www.answers.com/topic/list- [...] processors

I'm a little unclear as to whether your X850XT PE is PCI-E or AGP.
Having left yourself with a clearly defined $230 for a processor, does
that mean you have already purchased a motherboard? If not, then the
options are:

http://www.asus.com/products2.aspx?l1=3&l2=15

A8N-E (Nvidia nForce4 Ultra, 1 PCI-E slots)
A8N-SLI (Nvidia nForce4 SLI, 2 PCI-E slots)
A8N-SLI Deluxe (Nvidia nForce4 SLI, 2 PCI-E slots)
A8N-SLI Premium (Nvidia nForce4 SLI, 2 PCI-E slots)

Asus haven't made an AGP motherboard with an Nvidia chipset, so if the
card you bought is AGP you will have to settle for an Asus motherboard
with a VIA K8T800Pro chipset.

A8V-E Deluxe (VIA K8T890, 1 PCI-E slot)
A8V (VIA K8T800Pro, 1 AGP8x slot)
A8V Deluxe (VIA K8T800Pro, 1 AGP8x slot)

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On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:19:22 -0400, fish wrote:

> I have a couple of 2600+ Bartons on a NF2 boards at work as well a couple of
> P4C's (with HT) for Graphic and Multimedia design. The P4's are by far the
> favorites.
>
The P4 has always been better than K7's for this type app. I think the K8
X2's finally either pulled AMD close to or ahead of Intel.

> I made the mistake of using a Barton setup as a backup domain server.I
> needed it one day and moved a boat load of data to it for a day or two
> temporarily, the machine came to an utter stall (unusable) with more
> then a few people on a database. I then moved the data base to a P4e
> 2.6ghz machine which handled it just fine.

Now this intrigues me. What's a backup domain server? The bottleneck on
any server I've ever used had nothing to do with the cpu itself. Most
causes of server slowdowns were caused by datapath bandwidth problems,
lack of ram, slow drives, etc. The novell server (3.12) I set up in 93 ran
fine on an old 486/100 and 24meg of ram and 10baseT ethernet. It's still
running today afaik (last seen a few months ago). So I suspect any problem
you ran into with the Barton system was caused by something other than the
cpu. AFAIK, it's fully capable of saturating a 1gb ethernet connection.
And all the benchmarks I've seen comparing Intel and AMD database servers
put the AMD on top.

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