Seeking AMD Thoroughbred B

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"Jon D" <jon_d@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Am in the UK looking to get a AMD Athlon Throughbred-B processor.
> Prefereably new (if still possible) else reliable secondhand.
>
> Am looking for one of these:
> 2200+ AXDA2200DUV3C
> 2100+ AXDA2100DUT3C (plus step B)
> 2000+ AXDA2000DUT3C (plus step B)
>
> Maybe even:
> 1900+ AXDA1900DUT3C
>
> Is any decent retailers still selling these in the UK?
>
> Not ebuyer please!
> http://www.romulus2.com/feedback/company.php?137
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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>
> By way of background, this chart shows the range of Throughbred-
> Bs:
> http://www.ultimatehardware.net/xpchart/xpchart.htm
>
> As background, part numbers & basic specs are here for
> Throughbred-Bs.
> http://tinyurl.com/99wbv
> http://fab51.com/cpu/guide/opn-xp-e.html#t-bred
>

Ebay, like everything else...

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On Fri 15 Jul 2005 10:10:28, Rab C Nesbitt wrote:
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> Ebay, like everything else...
>


Use Ebay?

Ha! I have had way too many bad experiences on Ebay.

Nowadays, unless the seller lives locally to me then I am not even
faintly interested.

YMMV but that is what I concluded.

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On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:00:36 +0100, Jon D <jon_d@nomail.com> wrote:
>Am in the UK looking to get a AMD Athlon Throughbred-B processor.
>Prefereably new (if still possible) else reliable secondhand.
>
>Am looking for one of these:
>2200+ AXDA2200DUV3C
>2100+ AXDA2100DUT3C (plus step B)
>2000+ AXDA2000DUT3C (plus step B)

If you're looking to overclock, I have an Athlon XP-M 2400+ Barton
AXMH2400???4C, which is basically a multiplier-unlocked XP2200+ with
twice the L2 cache. Is that going to be any use?

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> On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:00:36 +0100, Jon D <jon_d@nomail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>Am in the UK looking to get a AMD Athlon Throughbred-B
>>processor. Prefereably new (if still possible) else reliable
>>secondhand.
>>
>>Am looking for one of these:
>>2200+ AXDA2200DUV3C
>>2100+ AXDA2100DUT3C (plus step B)
>>2000+ AXDA2000DUT3C (plus step B)


On Fri 15 Jul 2005 14:48:16, A. J. Moss wrote:
>
> If you're looking to overclock, I have an Athlon XP-M 2400+
> Barton AXMH2400???4C, which is basically a multiplier-unlocked
> XP2200+ with twice the L2 cache. Is that going to be any use?


Don't know much about mobile processors. I guess the cpu core speed
will stay at a low idling speed unless it is specially configured.

How do you keep the processor on an XP-M running at max core speed?

BTW my mobo (Syntax 266) uses a Via 266 chipset and SDRAM.

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Jon D wrote:

> Don't know much about mobile processors. I guess the cpu core speed
> will stay at a low idling speed unless it is specially configured.
>
> How do you keep the processor on an XP-M running at max core speed?
>
> BTW my mobo (Syntax 266) uses a Via 266 chipset and SDRAM.

AFAIK the speed that the Athlon XP-Ms run at is controlled by varying
the multiplier (so unlocked multiplier == more convenient for
overclockers). This would be up to the motherboard to control.

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:35:53 +0100, Jon D <jon_d@nomail.com> wrote:
>On Fri 15 Jul 2005 14:48:16, A. J. Moss wrote:
>>
>> If you're looking to overclock, I have an Athlon XP-M 2400+
>> Barton AXMH2400???4C, which is basically a multiplier-unlocked
>> XP2200+ with twice the L2 cache. Is that going to be any use?
>
>Don't know much about mobile processors. I guess the cpu core speed
>will stay at a low idling speed unless it is specially configured.
>
>How do you keep the processor on an XP-M running at max core speed?
>
>BTW my mobo (Syntax 266) uses a Via 266 chipset and SDRAM.

The multiplier setting is handled by the motherboard, which in practice
means by the BIOS. It is only laptops whose BIOS usually allows real
time changing of the multiplier; with desktops, you set the multiplier
in the BIOS setup screen, and it stays at that value (even if you're
running software that makes the CPU go into low-power idle mode).

I'm lucky in that I've got a relatively modern motherboard, around
the Via KT400 vintage. It can detect XP-M CPUs and configure them
automatically. Older motherboards (like yours) will default to a
multiplier of 6x, and allow you to change the multiplier manually.
Often they won't even let you go above 12.5x, because they're not
properly configured for five L3 bridges.

If you've got such an old motherboard that it still uses SDRAM, then
there's no guarantee that it will work with Thoroughbred B CPUs at all.
Give me 30 pounds for my working Athlon XP 2000+ Palomino.