BROKEN ATI RADEON AIW All in Wonder TO SOLDER

[labdog]

hello,

i have a ATI AIW All in Wonder Radeon graphic card

but i have a big hardware probleme to solve

a microchip is detached from the card, unsoldered and i have to solder it again
it is just 0.5 centimeter long and it has 8 pins to solder them again

it is, in fact a CMS component that is requiered precise micro-solder of O.5 millimeter

i have all the tools to solder this microchip again to the graphic card but i have never done this before

and i can't do a mistake involving a definitive breaking of my graphic card

also i need some advices to help me solder correctly since the first time without any mistake

maybe i have to peek up the rest of solder on the graphic card first, to clean it, ... ?

what is the exact procedure to solder a CMS micro-component ?

my tools are:

CMS solder 0.45 millimeter
pan 0.5 millimeter
unsolder band of 1.5 millimeter
micro iron solder of 14 Watts
a loupe X9

someone can help me ?

thanks a lot for everyone who can help me


EasyInfo TM@i
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[flamethrower205]

why don't u just buy some tiga-95 (solder except liquid, then hardens), rather than soldering?

NOS and a <font color=red> Ferrari </font color=red> can be fun!

 

[labdog]

Because liquid solder is not good enough as solder.
it's for neophyte, ... like you Captain Flam


EasyInfo ;-)
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.

 

[flamethrower205]

And u aren't a newb to soldering. In that case, u should be able to do it urself- not go around posting help help help. idiot.

What if your life moved.....2 inches to the left?

 

[labdog]

1)
i know solder but not CMS solder & i would like to do it safely

2)
because i want to teach myself to go always further

3)
hey, Captain Flam,

ret to play with u shovel & u bucket

bye


EasyInfo ;-)
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by labdog on 12/15/01 01:27 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[FatBurger]

lol
Don't you just love people who ask for help and then give you no respect

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[labdog]

i don't do anything

it's not my philosophy to attack someone

but Flamethrower205 does without notice

in "Other >> Classifieds"

that's all

bye


EasyInfo ;-D
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.

 

[flamethrower205]

Wow, u never heard of a joke- what u don;t think I laughed when I saw what u wrote in the classifieds? Reason I say that is cause I've seen it too many times, and it's kinda amusing. Anyways, dude, be safe and try Tiga 95- it's not gonna make u less of a man, just gonna be safer. See, the trick is to be able to use big soldering irons on a little chip and still get it to work (like I have done ). Anyway, if you're gonna be a jackazz, u'r not gonna get a cookie from RCF. Oh wait, sig changed. ah well.

What if your life moved.....2 inches to the left?

 

[labdog]

that's great, you have chance, nothing make you laugh

ok, put this msg in the classifieds, is a mistake
but jocking for someone who have some little trouble,
it is not very shine

for solder, if you succeed, why can't me ?

because i'm blind & paralyzed ?


EasyInfo
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by labdog on 12/15/01 06:52 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[flamethrower205]

Dude, if this is your first time, then u ought to use something easier, or have tons, and tons of practice. I spent a month practicing before I did it (then again, I didn't have a micro solder iron- I had a big one).

What if your life moved.....2 inches to the left?

 

[labdog]

<b>one month ?</b>

oh, i think this must be very difficult

for me, i have certainly 1 year parctice before i can

EasyInfo
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.

 

[flamethrower205]

Dude, like I said, I had a large soldering iron- not a special small one. Mine's tip was huge, and I really needed to get good w/ it in order to accomplish my task. in your case, it'll probably take less time cause it's easier. hence, do it when u feel u r ready.

What if your life moved.....2 inches to the left?

 

[labdog]

oh, thanks for your approval

EasyInfo
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.

 

[labdog]

practice 2 hours, fix in 1 hour


EasyInfo
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.

 

[flamethrower205]

Good for u. I practiced for so long cause I was dealing w/a 4000$ vid card

What if your life moved.....2 inches to the left?

 

[labdog]

but after...,

my eyes were out of order until one day after


EasyInfo
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.

 

[flamethrower205]

Lol, yeah, that usually happens when u conecntrate on something small for a few hours non stop. I didn't use a magnifying glass or anything- u can imagine what I felt like afterwards

What if your life moved.....2 inches to the left?

 

[labdog]

now, you can laugh
why ?

because my AIW do not work yet [-peep-] of [-peep-] :frown:

the bios don't recognize it

the message error is

"DON'T FOUND VGA CARD OR VGA CARD MEMORY BAD"

i pay attention to use a small 14watts micro solder iron to not burn something
i have controled each contact five times with a X9 loupe
& i have even controled all the card, component after component for about 2 hours

so i think the CMS Component i solder is out or gc DDR SDRAM memory is crashed

now, i stop to play with & i send it back to ATI !!

but not everything is lost...

i have now an amazing loupe


EasyInfo
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.

 

[flamethrower205]

What can I say- Shiit happens. Anyways, make sure definetly not to tell Ati u messed w/ it, and make sure it's not visible.

What if your life moved.....2 inches to the left?

 

[labdog]

i know,

i work about one hour again to hide this

i make micro-work again with my magnify glass to take off the unnecessary solder on the CMS

you can know see the retouches just with a loupe

i hope this will be sufficient


EasyInfo
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.

 

[flamethrower205]

Is it by any chance covered by something- ie heatsink?

What if your life moved.....2 inches to the left?

 

[labdog]

Unfortunately not :frown:

EasyInfo
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.

 

[flamethrower205]

Oh, that sucks, cause if it was, u could pull off sending it back much easier.

What if your life moved.....2 inches to the left?

 

[labdog]

i nevertheless hope ATI will accept it

if this chip is not the cause of the damage, this will be certainly pass

but if it is, i think it will be another history


EasyInfo
I would like to Invest for my PC !!
ok, buy nothing.

 

[flamethrower205]

Make sure they send u replacement first, and then send it.

What if your life moved.....2 inches to the left?