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a b K Overclocking
July 18, 2004 12:07:53 AM

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I've had some trouble getting my new sytem up and running right and would
like some help. Here's the scoop. I bought a P4P800SE and a P42.6C, had it
running fine, no problems. The only ram I had when I got it was a single
stick of Kingston DDR3200 Valueram. I started testing how far I could get
the processor clocked up to once I'd burnt it in for about a week. I was
able to easily get to 3250 but needless to say, I wasn't running sync. I
bought a dual-channel 2x256Mb OCZ DDR4000 on a recommendation from a friend
and tried it out. It works fine, but here is where I discovered that the
fsb/memory ratio can't be locked on this board either, there isn't an
option. I tried all the suggestions in the forum. No luck, I appeared to
lose dual-channel mode as soon as I raised the FSB over 200 on the P4P800SE
but on the P4P800 board it stays in dual-channel mode. It runs fine async on
either board. But this isn't why I bought the ram is it? A colleague at work
is running a P4P800, not the SE and he's got it running sync and he has the
ratio setting in the bios. It's even in the manual, I checked before buying
the board. Sure enough, I have a similar problem, no ratio setting in the
bios of the new P4P800 I've bought. I flashed up to rev 1017Beta from 1014
one rev at a time. No change. The system runs great with everything at auto,
even runs fine with the cpu at 3250 but this automatically clocks my ram
back to 2700 no matter what I do. I also crash running 3D Mark2001SE if I'm
overclocked. None of this happened with the old single stick of 3200? I'm
not sure where to go on this from here. I've always had perfomance mode set
to standard, spread spectrum is the first thing I disable on every
motherboard I touch. Setting the mem timings to 3-4-4-8 doesn't change
anything and if you leave it set to By SPD the board tries to push the
memory to 2.5 timings (I noticed that mention elsewhere in the forums too).
On the P4P800SE I can see and set my DDR speed to 500 but it won't post. On
the P4P800 it doesn't offer me the 500 speed option at all, it's like it
doesn't detect it's full speed. I check with all the different bios rev's I
tried. I've reseated the memory twice, cleared the bios numerous times as
well, installed one stick at a time. Nothing has helped so far.

Here's the configuration:
Asus P4P800
Intel P4 2.6C, stock Intel cooler
2x256Mb DDR4000 OCZ, dual-channel kit, OCZ500512ELDC-K should be the part
number, I can check the modules if needed but that's what I ordered.
ATI Radeon 9000Pro
2x120Gb Seatgate 7200.7 SATA150 as RAID1 volume (boot drive)
Western Digital 120Gb BB series (misc data temp data storage, being removed
soon) on Primary Master
LiteOn DVD-RW on Secondary Master
LiteOn DVD-CDRW combo on Secondary Slave
ATI TV-Wonder
Soundblaster Audigy
Antec SLK2650BQE with Antec 380W PSU from a Sonata
80MM Vantec Stealth mounted on an IceSystems T-Bone fan bracket to cool
chipset and memory

So here are the questions:
Do you need to hit a key sequence with this board to get more bios options
like my GA-7VAX?
Did I miss something really simple here?
Is the Audigy or the TV Wonder a problem? (I doubt it's the Radeon 9000Pro?)
Is it because I'm running RAID1? There were no extra options there before I
connected the drives
Is it a memory compatability issue?
Why doesn't the new P4P800 offer me the manual DDR speed setting for 500?

Any help appreciated, thanks in advance
Mark

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July 22, 2004 5:55:59 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking (More info?)

I'm not really sure where you are going with this?? Are you trying to get
info on a vanilla P4P800 or the P4P800SE? My P4P800 Deluxe has 4 memory
sync settings: Auto, 166, 320 and 400. Using 166 gives me a 3:2 ration
regardless of mem speed, the 320 5:4 and the 400 setting 1:1.

My MB doesn't "automagically" detect any RAM speed over PC3200. It doesn't
stop the system from using it at a higher speed. If you plan on overclock
using "auto" or "By SPD" is pretty lame. Auto detect assumes that all
memory is 3200 and will crank down the memory speed as you are cranking up
the CPU speed. I don't believe there is a "standard" yet in place for any
RAM over 3200 - may be wrong there but haven't heard of one. Probably why
it not seen as an option in CMOS.

Don't know what if any assistance this provides but trying to at least
address some of your questions. Bottom line is that on my MB if one places
PC4000 RAM into the board in dual channel (or not) mode you most certainly
can run higher FSB speeds with a 1:1 sync. Unfortunately for me my 2.4c
runs happily along at about 260MHz FSB so I have to run my memory a-sync at
5:4 - no RAM is quite that fast yet but they are getting close!

Good Luck,
Len
"zzipper" <zzipper@NOOSPAMMMMsympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:9iEKc.4487$Gf7.144347@news20.bellglobal.com...
> I've had some trouble getting my new sytem up and running right and would
> like some help. Here's the scoop. I bought a P4P800SE and a P42.6C, had it
> running fine, no problems. The only ram I had when I got it was a single
> stick of Kingston DDR3200 Valueram. I started testing how far I could get
> the processor clocked up to once I'd burnt it in for about a week. I was
> able to easily get to 3250 but needless to say, I wasn't running sync. I
> bought a dual-channel 2x256Mb OCZ DDR4000 on a recommendation from a
friend
> and tried it out. It works fine, but here is where I discovered that the
> fsb/memory ratio can't be locked on this board either, there isn't an
> option. I tried all the suggestions in the forum. No luck, I appeared to
> lose dual-channel mode as soon as I raised the FSB over 200 on the
P4P800SE
> but on the P4P800 board it stays in dual-channel mode. It runs fine async
on
> either board. But this isn't why I bought the ram is it? A colleague at
work
> is running a P4P800, not the SE and he's got it running sync and he has
the
> ratio setting in the bios. It's even in the manual, I checked before
buying
> the board. Sure enough, I have a similar problem, no ratio setting in the
> bios of the new P4P800 I've bought. I flashed up to rev 1017Beta from 1014
> one rev at a time. No change. The system runs great with everything at
auto,
> even runs fine with the cpu at 3250 but this automatically clocks my ram
> back to 2700 no matter what I do. I also crash running 3D Mark2001SE if
I'm
> overclocked. None of this happened with the old single stick of 3200? I'm
> not sure where to go on this from here. I've always had perfomance mode
set
> to standard, spread spectrum is the first thing I disable on every
> motherboard I touch. Setting the mem timings to 3-4-4-8 doesn't change
> anything and if you leave it set to By SPD the board tries to push the
> memory to 2.5 timings (I noticed that mention elsewhere in the forums
too).
> On the P4P800SE I can see and set my DDR speed to 500 but it won't post.
On
> the P4P800 it doesn't offer me the 500 speed option at all, it's like it
> doesn't detect it's full speed. I check with all the different bios rev's
I
> tried. I've reseated the memory twice, cleared the bios numerous times as
> well, installed one stick at a time. Nothing has helped so far.
>
> Here's the configuration:
> Asus P4P800
> Intel P4 2.6C, stock Intel cooler
> 2x256Mb DDR4000 OCZ, dual-channel kit, OCZ500512ELDC-K should be the part
> number, I can check the modules if needed but that's what I ordered.
> ATI Radeon 9000Pro
> 2x120Gb Seatgate 7200.7 SATA150 as RAID1 volume (boot drive)
> Western Digital 120Gb BB series (misc data temp data storage, being
removed
> soon) on Primary Master
> LiteOn DVD-RW on Secondary Master
> LiteOn DVD-CDRW combo on Secondary Slave
> ATI TV-Wonder
> Soundblaster Audigy
> Antec SLK2650BQE with Antec 380W PSU from a Sonata
> 80MM Vantec Stealth mounted on an IceSystems T-Bone fan bracket to cool
> chipset and memory
>
> So here are the questions:
> Do you need to hit a key sequence with this board to get more bios options
> like my GA-7VAX?
> Did I miss something really simple here?
> Is the Audigy or the TV Wonder a problem? (I doubt it's the Radeon
9000Pro?)
> Is it because I'm running RAID1? There were no extra options there before
I
> connected the drives
> Is it a memory compatability issue?
> Why doesn't the new P4P800 offer me the manual DDR speed setting for 500?
>
> Any help appreciated, thanks in advance
> Mark
>
>
Anonymous
a b K Overclocking
July 27, 2004 3:21:10 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking (More info?)

Hi, yes it is the solution. On the SE it sees it as 500, it does detect it.
With 400 DDR it doesn't show 500 as an option. With 500 it's ok and give you
an option but it ends up as a 3:2 ratio. Got tired of messing with it and
just used the 400 setting on the P4P800 and returned the SE:-) Thanks

"Len" <len207@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Ea6dnbbNNpAtYmLdRVn-pA@adelphia.com...
> I'm not really sure where you are going with this?? Are you trying to get
> info on a vanilla P4P800 or the P4P800SE? My P4P800 Deluxe has 4 memory
> sync settings: Auto, 166, 320 and 400. Using 166 gives me a 3:2 ration
> regardless of mem speed, the 320 5:4 and the 400 setting 1:1.
>
> My MB doesn't "automagically" detect any RAM speed over PC3200. It
doesn't
> stop the system from using it at a higher speed. If you plan on overclock
> using "auto" or "By SPD" is pretty lame. Auto detect assumes that all
> memory is 3200 and will crank down the memory speed as you are cranking up
> the CPU speed. I don't believe there is a "standard" yet in place for any
> RAM over 3200 - may be wrong there but haven't heard of one. Probably why
> it not seen as an option in CMOS.
>
> Don't know what if any assistance this provides but trying to at least
> address some of your questions. Bottom line is that on my MB if one
places
> PC4000 RAM into the board in dual channel (or not) mode you most certainly
> can run higher FSB speeds with a 1:1 sync. Unfortunately for me my 2.4c
> runs happily along at about 260MHz FSB so I have to run my memory a-sync
at
> 5:4 - no RAM is quite that fast yet but they are getting close!
>
> Good Luck,
> Len
> "zzipper" <zzipper@NOOSPAMMMMsympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:9iEKc.4487$Gf7.144347@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > I've had some trouble getting my new sytem up and running right and
would
> > like some help. Here's the scoop. I bought a P4P800SE and a P42.6C, had
it
> > running fine, no problems. The only ram I had when I got it was a single
> > stick of Kingston DDR3200 Valueram. I started testing how far I could
get
> > the processor clocked up to once I'd burnt it in for about a week. I was
> > able to easily get to 3250 but needless to say, I wasn't running sync. I
> > bought a dual-channel 2x256Mb OCZ DDR4000 on a recommendation from a
> friend
> > and tried it out. It works fine, but here is where I discovered that the
> > fsb/memory ratio can't be locked on this board either, there isn't an
> > option. I tried all the suggestions in the forum. No luck, I appeared to
> > lose dual-channel mode as soon as I raised the FSB over 200 on the
> P4P800SE
> > but on the P4P800 board it stays in dual-channel mode. It runs fine
async
> on
> > either board. But this isn't why I bought the ram is it? A colleague at
> work
> > is running a P4P800, not the SE and he's got it running sync and he has
> the
> > ratio setting in the bios. It's even in the manual, I checked before
> buying
> > the board. Sure enough, I have a similar problem, no ratio setting in
the
> > bios of the new P4P800 I've bought. I flashed up to rev 1017Beta from
1014
> > one rev at a time. No change. The system runs great with everything at
> auto,
> > even runs fine with the cpu at 3250 but this automatically clocks my ram
> > back to 2700 no matter what I do. I also crash running 3D Mark2001SE if
> I'm
> > overclocked. None of this happened with the old single stick of 3200?
I'm
> > not sure where to go on this from here. I've always had perfomance mode
> set
> > to standard, spread spectrum is the first thing I disable on every
> > motherboard I touch. Setting the mem timings to 3-4-4-8 doesn't change
> > anything and if you leave it set to By SPD the board tries to push the
> > memory to 2.5 timings (I noticed that mention elsewhere in the forums
> too).
> > On the P4P800SE I can see and set my DDR speed to 500 but it won't post.
> On
> > the P4P800 it doesn't offer me the 500 speed option at all, it's like it
> > doesn't detect it's full speed. I check with all the different bios
rev's
> I
> > tried. I've reseated the memory twice, cleared the bios numerous times
as
> > well, installed one stick at a time. Nothing has helped so far.
> >
> > Here's the configuration:
> > Asus P4P800
> > Intel P4 2.6C, stock Intel cooler
> > 2x256Mb DDR4000 OCZ, dual-channel kit, OCZ500512ELDC-K should be the
part
> > number, I can check the modules if needed but that's what I ordered.
> > ATI Radeon 9000Pro
> > 2x120Gb Seatgate 7200.7 SATA150 as RAID1 volume (boot drive)
> > Western Digital 120Gb BB series (misc data temp data storage, being
> removed
> > soon) on Primary Master
> > LiteOn DVD-RW on Secondary Master
> > LiteOn DVD-CDRW combo on Secondary Slave
> > ATI TV-Wonder
> > Soundblaster Audigy
> > Antec SLK2650BQE with Antec 380W PSU from a Sonata
> > 80MM Vantec Stealth mounted on an IceSystems T-Bone fan bracket to cool
> > chipset and memory
> >
> > So here are the questions:
> > Do you need to hit a key sequence with this board to get more bios
options
> > like my GA-7VAX?
> > Did I miss something really simple here?
> > Is the Audigy or the TV Wonder a problem? (I doubt it's the Radeon
> 9000Pro?)
> > Is it because I'm running RAID1? There were no extra options there
before
> I
> > connected the drives
> > Is it a memory compatability issue?
> > Why doesn't the new P4P800 offer me the manual DDR speed setting for
500?
> >
> > Any help appreciated, thanks in advance
> > Mark
> >
> >
>
>
!