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Ofcom Outlines UK's Three Strikes Piracy Policy

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June 26, 2012 5:09:58 PM

Has anyone seen Pirate Radio?
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June 26, 2012 5:26:13 PM

ChainzsawHas anyone seen Pirate Radio?


No.
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June 26, 2012 5:29:34 PM

The man sucks...
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June 26, 2012 5:29:40 PM

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If a customer receives three letters in the space of 12 months, Ofcom says copyright owners may then request anonymous information showing which infringement reports are linked to the customer's account.


So that basically gives our information to copyright owners....NICE!

in fact, i hope PIPA and SOPA bills get approved, censor everything, only then, people will realise how much the goverment and corps are fu**ing us and do something about rather than useless pacific protests
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June 26, 2012 5:43:43 PM

If you are smart enough to steal copyrighted material, and simultaneously dumb enough to ignore the first two letters, then you deserve it.

This effectively does nothing but force English torrent users to switch ISP's once a year.
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June 26, 2012 6:27:32 PM

Fantastic... I am waiting for my first letter.

At that point, I shall be taking this to court!

So many computers are logged on my network in the average week, some with torrent clients running on them! They do not belong to me, they are just being repaired by me!

Simply put.... an IP Address does not mean a person!

I am prepared to fight that in court!

What about open public wifi, how exactly are they going to police that, or does it mean an end to open wifi!

"After that, the copyright holder may seek a court order that would require the ISP to reveal the customer's identity and take legal action for infringement under the Copyright Designs and Patent Act of 1988."

Go on, try it on, see you in court Mofo's, you prove i am the one who clicked the download button!

Problem is, many people will fall for this fleecing tactic, which is wrong..

finally, I do not pirate, don't feel the need! Not really anything out there I want that bad that I cant buy anyway.
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June 26, 2012 6:56:56 PM

The revolution is coming.
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June 26, 2012 7:10:14 PM

Guess that $4.95 proxy will come in handy....... best $5 ever spent.
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June 26, 2012 7:24:04 PM

Torin', Torin', Torin' Keep those boxes Torin', Rawhide!!!
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June 26, 2012 7:46:11 PM

coming soon to the ISP near you!
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June 26, 2012 8:58:54 PM

PIPA and SOPA don't have a chance of ever passing, not as long as you have so many Republicans in the House and in the Senate in Washington.

Now Obama on the other hand, that would be a proponent of PIPA and SOPA bills by his affiliated party. I haven't looked into the politics enough though to see if Obama is the type of man that would sign these sort of things into law.

Just enjoy the internet as it is for now. This definitely can NOT last forever. Believe me in how I know. I have used computer telecommunications ever since BBSes and remember how underground the piracy scene could be at times. I still remember when it was scoffed at to submit pirated data to Usenet and now look how much is there. Something changed that can quite easily be changed back.

Don't expect that for more than 10 years from now we will still have huge p2p sharing and big usenet. This is all going to come to a crashing stark halt one of these years. I'm not saying that I want that to happen though, I'm just looking at things how they once were and how I feel they are going to be. (I would rather it stay the way it is right now or actually I would like more anonymity that the dialup era gave although that wasn't 100% due to switched networks being more or less fairly easy to monitor.)

aqualipt said:
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If a customer receives three letters in the space of 12 months, Ofcom says copyright owners may then request anonymous information showing which infringement reports are linked to the customer's account.


So that basically gives our information to copyright owners....NICE!

in fact, i hope PIPA and SOPA bills get approved, censor everything, only then, people will realise how much the goverment and corps are fu**ing us and do something about rather than useless pacific protests

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June 26, 2012 10:18:02 PM

aqualiptSo that basically gives our information to copyright owners....NICE!in fact, i hope PIPA and SOPA bills get approved, censor everything, only then, people will realise how much the goverment and corps are fu**ing us and do something about rather than useless pacific protests


Pacific protests? They're occupying the ocean now? 1%ers must be happy to hear that.

dalethepcmanIf you are smart enough to steal copyrighted material, and simultaneously dumb enough to ignore the first two letters, then you deserve it.This effectively does nothing but force English torrent users to switch ISP's once a year.


That's kind of the problem. Actual piraters can easily get around the laws, but some innocent grandma getting leeched by a neighbor may not even understand what it means and end up fined out of her retirement because she "was warned". It's kind of like the war on drugs, they don't put the masterminds behind bars, they put the minor dealers on the street trying to make a living behind bars. This is a war that will never end and hurt far more innocent than guilty.

demarestThe mistake that keeps getting made is that downloading copyrighted material is piracy. I'll give an example. I bought Reckoning the day it came out. I also downloaded the pirated version so that I can play offline without DRM. These "experts" would only see me downloading copyrighted material and assume piracy. I like to use that example because the company that made it promptly went bankrupt despite the fact that I paid for the game.Anytime a law makes innocent people afraid to do innocent things, it's proof that they're reaching and that it's a bad law.


The mistake that's commonly made is that you have a right to download something copyrighted just because you own A copy of the material. Logically, you would be correct in thinking you are not taking anything because you own a copy already of the same material. Legally, it is not so black and white. The laws have not been adjusted properly to deal with all the new methods of media distribution available today. You only purchased the right to your copy, not the right to the material itself. I cannot go grab a DVD off the shelf and take it just because I own the VHS. If you think you're right, good luck in court.

rooketPIPA and SOPA don't have a chance of ever passing, not as long as you have so many Republicans in the House and in the Senate in Washington.Now Obama on the other hand, that would be a proponent of PIPA and SOPA bills by his affiliated party. I haven't looked into the politics enough though to see if Obama is the type of man that would sign these sort of things into law.Just enjoy the internet as it is for now.


You didn't look into anything enough to know Obama stated he would veto SOPA/PIPA (election year after all), and just made a ridiculous partisan statement that Republicans would not allow it, even though Republicans are always business friendly. This country isn't run by Red and Blue anymore, it's run by green. Both sides are just there to put on a puppet show that our government isn't run by corporate interests.

Just take a look at this story. If the "copyright holders" had their way, they would likely have full control over arbitration and full transparency to everyone's personal data. They are not content with the actual legal systems in place, they want to judge and execute you on their own stage.

We won't go back to how things were 10 years ago, piracy is a way of life now. This is why strong measures have not been taken against it, the government is afraid of what will happen if they really crack down. They've got to ease it in slowly so the people don't see it coming.
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June 26, 2012 10:57:27 PM

demarestThe mistake that keeps getting made is that downloading copyrighted material is piracy. I'll give an example. I bought Reckoning the day it came out. I also downloaded the pirated version so that I can play offline without DRM. These "experts" would only see me downloading copyrighted material and assume piracy. I like to use that example because the company that made it promptly went bankrupt despite the fact that I paid for the game.Anytime a law makes innocent people afraid to do innocent things, it's proof that they're reaching and that it's a bad law.

had the same problem with my american ISP after i bought hurt locker and transformers revenge of the fallen due to DRM i could not watch them on my 2002 dvd player so i d/l the drm less copy and burned it to dics, got a letter from the isp 2 weeks later, i took my movies and receipts in hand and went to the local office asked for the person in charge of this mess, shoved my proof in their face told them if i ever got another letter regarding copyright problems not only was i going to list the MPAA/RIAA in my lawsuit but my ISP as well in my lawsuit i was getting drawn up.
i have since sued the MPAA and won on default as they never showed up in court to face my lawyer after they were served papers in their los angels california office. i have yet to receive damage awards for expenses, false criminal claims that damaged my reputation and caused me emotional distress ( i was so angry i was ready to have a heart attack despite being more fit than any one but olympic athletes the doctor at the intensive care unit said) and also for the cost to upgrade every device i own capable of playing their dvd product.
i was tempted to turn that into a class action lawsuit against the MPAA but the lawyer said i would probably get less $$$$$ out of it since my case was very simple open and shut he said from the other judges pre trial opinions. my doctors advice was to let it go and not worry about it any more before i wind up dead sooner rather than later. lulz
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June 27, 2012 4:54:01 AM

let fk this thing up :D 
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June 27, 2012 6:01:57 AM

aqualiptSo that basically gives our information to copyright owners....NICE!in fact, i hope PIPA and SOPA bills get approved, censor everything, only then, people will realise how much the goverment and corps are fu**ing us and do something about rather than useless pacific protests


it will be a civil war you know, or the development of pirate internet, which again, would lead to a war.
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