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Anonymous
June 10, 2005 3:35:48 AM

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Hi all,

I have a secondary PC for mostly MAME comprised of the following ;

Pentium 3 @ 1.4Ghz
384MB SDRAM
20Gig HDD
256MB AGP ATI Radeon 9550
2x 16MB PCI 3DFX Voodoo2 in SLI
ISA Soundblaster AWE64 Gold


I am currently have an old MAME 0.67 version on there at the moment &
all was running fine until just yesterday the sound started
stuttering/slightly repeating as it was playing. The video update does
not stutter at all but the sound does. This is now happening in every
game I play in MAME so anyone out there got any ideas what could be
causing that ??
It's a weird one... got my head scratching!

Thanks!
Brad.

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Anonymous
June 10, 2005 3:35:49 AM

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Sune Salminen's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his
body were:
> KING TIGER wrote:
>> I am currently have an old MAME 0.67 version on there at the moment &
>> all was running fine until just yesterday the sound started
>> stuttering/slightly repeating as it was playing. The video update does
>> not stutter at all but the sound does. This is now happening in every
>> game I play in MAME so anyone out there got any ideas what could be
>> causing that ??
>> It's a weird one... got my head scratching!
> Is it running DOS or windows?
> Assuming Windows, try disabling hardware stretch as the old voodoos
> probably aren't up for it, and then disable all video syncing options
> and triple buffering too. Let me know if it helps.
> If its running Windows, upgrading to a Soundblaster Live (or another PCI
> soundcard with good DirectX drivers) and a TNT2 Ultra will give you
> better performance in MAME. If you don't use Hardware Stretch, even a
> TNT 1 is fine.

Thing is though, why should he have to upgrade if it worked fine
previously?
Anonymous
June 10, 2005 5:28:39 AM

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KING TIGER <nospam_@nospam.com.au> wrote in news:42a845b5$0$29337$afc38c87
@news.optusnet.com.au:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a secondary PC for mostly MAME comprised of the following ;
>
> Pentium 3 @ 1.4Ghz
> 384MB SDRAM
> 20Gig HDD
> 256MB AGP ATI Radeon 9550
> 2x 16MB PCI 3DFX Voodoo2 in SLI
> ISA Soundblaster AWE64 Gold
>
>
> I am currently have an old MAME 0.67 version on there at the moment &
> all was running fine until just yesterday the sound started
> stuttering/slightly repeating as it was playing. The video update does
> not stutter at all but the sound does. This is now happening in every
> game I play in MAME so anyone out there got any ideas what could be
> causing that ??
> It's a weird one... got my head scratching!
>
> Thanks!
> Brad.

Sounds like you installed something new, like virus scanner or something
else that's running in the background. If you are 100% sure that you
haven't installed anything (including a program updating itself or new
drivers) or aren't running anything extra in the background (check for
spyware) then you may need to do something as simple as defrag your drive.


--
Alex Devlin

"Never knowingly understood."
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Anonymous
June 10, 2005 11:14:11 PM

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Alex Devlin wrote:
> KING TIGER <nospam_@nospam.com.au> wrote in news:42a845b5$0$29337$afc38c87
> @news.optusnet.com.au:
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I have a secondary PC for mostly MAME comprised of the following ;
>>
>>Pentium 3 @ 1.4Ghz
>>384MB SDRAM
>>20Gig HDD
>>256MB AGP ATI Radeon 9550
>>2x 16MB PCI 3DFX Voodoo2 in SLI
>>ISA Soundblaster AWE64 Gold
>>
>>
>>I am currently have an old MAME 0.67 version on there at the moment &
>>all was running fine until just yesterday the sound started
>>stuttering/slightly repeating as it was playing. The video update does
>>not stutter at all but the sound does. This is now happening in every
>>game I play in MAME so anyone out there got any ideas what could be
>>causing that ??
>>It's a weird one... got my head scratching!
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Brad.
>
>
> Sounds like you installed something new, like virus scanner or something
> else that's running in the background. If you are 100% sure that you
> haven't installed anything (including a program updating itself or new
> drivers) or aren't running anything extra in the background (check for
> spyware) then you may need to do something as simple as defrag your drive.
>
>
Thanks everyone for the tips.

The computer has just been formatted & completely reloaded with Win98SE.
This PC will also be used for my old DOS games, so the ISA SBAWE64 is
staying inside as I want the best MIDI for my games.
The Voodoo2 cards themselves have not actually been setup yet. They are
still listed as 'Unknown' at the moment, as before they were loaded with
3rd party drivers which were causing weird graphic effects in Windows.
At the moment, after the reload, everything graphic-wise is perfect.
There is no shearing or foul ups with the graphics with MAME or anytihng
else, just the sound simply started stuttering every few seconds
constantly now.

From the old days of using MAME, I seem to remember that if you ever
copied the directory around betwen computers or drives etc, you had to
delete all the configs or certain files & run MAME up again clean so it
could create the files again ???
Anyone have any more ideas ? Upgrading the computer isn't an option as
the specs are set in stone!! SOrry!

Thanks again,
Brad.
Anonymous
June 11, 2005 9:55:36 AM

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Sue Salmon wrote:
> KING TIGER wrote:
>
>>Alex Devlin wrote:
>>
>>>KING TIGER <nospam_@nospam.com.au> wrote in
>>>news:42a845b5$0$29337$afc38c87 @news.optusnet.com.au:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I have a secondary PC for mostly MAME comprised of the following ;
>>>>
>>>>Pentium 3 @ 1.4Ghz
>>>>384MB SDRAM
>>>>20Gig HDD
>>>>256MB AGP ATI Radeon 9550
>>>>2x 16MB PCI 3DFX Voodoo2 in SLI
>>>>ISA Soundblaster AWE64 Gold
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am currently have an old MAME 0.67 version on there at the moment
>>>>& all was running fine until just yesterday the sound started
>>>>stuttering/slightly repeating as it was playing. The video update
>>>>does not stutter at all but the sound does. This is now happening
>>>>in every game I play in MAME so anyone out there got any ideas what
>>>>could be causing that ??
>>>>It's a weird one... got my head scratching!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>>Brad.
>>>
>>>
>>>Sounds like you installed something new, like virus scanner or
>>>something else that's running in the background. If you are 100%
>>>sure that you haven't installed anything (including a program
>>>updating itself or new drivers) or aren't running anything extra in
>>>the background (check for spyware) then you may need to do something
>>>as simple as defrag your drive.
>>
>>Thanks everyone for the tips.
>>
>>The computer has just been formatted & completely reloaded with
>>Win98SE. This PC will also be used for my old DOS games, so the ISA
>>SBAWE64 is staying inside as I want the best MIDI for my games.
>>The Voodoo2 cards themselves have not actually been setup yet. They
>>are still listed as 'Unknown' at the moment, as before they were
>>loaded with 3rd party drivers which were causing weird graphic
>>effects in Windows. At the moment, after the reload, everything
>>graphic-wise is perfect. There is no shearing or foul ups with the
>>graphics with MAME or anytihng else, just the sound simply started
>>stuttering every few seconds constantly now.
>
>
> It sounds to me like the sound card and the voodoo cards might be
> fighting over resources.
>
> I am sure it will help with your problem if you can find proper drivers
> for the Voodoo cards:
> http://www.voodoofiles.com/3dfxhelp.asp
> And don't forget to install motherboard chipset drivers and DirectX too.
>
> -Sue

Might a bootable Linux distro help with determining what the current
hardware setup is? I haven't tried it before, but.....

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Anonymous
June 11, 2005 7:30:35 PM

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On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 13:53:16 +0200, "Sune Salminen"
<salminen@monkeydoktor.dk> wrote:


>> The computer has just been formatted & completely reloaded with
>> Win98SE. This PC will also be used for my old DOS games, so the ISA
>> SBAWE64 is staying inside as I want the best MIDI for my games.
>> The Voodoo2 cards themselves have not actually been setup yet. They
>> are still listed as 'Unknown' at the moment, as before they were
>> loaded with 3rd party drivers which were causing weird graphic
>> effects in Windows. At the moment, after the reload, everything
>> graphic-wise is perfect. There is no shearing or foul ups with the
>> graphics with MAME or anytihng else, just the sound simply started
>> stuttering every few seconds constantly now.
>
>It sounds to me like the sound card and the voodoo cards might be
>fighting over resources.
>
>I am sure it will help with your problem if you can find proper drivers
>for the Voodoo cards:
>http://www.voodoofiles.com/3dfxhelp.asp
>And don't forget to install motherboard chipset drivers and DirectX too.
>
>-Sune

I happen to have a cd that came with an old Voodoo3 card. CD says
version 1.4, has '98 drivers and DirectX 6 on it. I'm sure there are
more recent drivers out there but I would be happy to mail you the
disk or email (or upload to ftp - space anyone?) any of the files to
you.

Post here if you are interested - my posting address is fake ;) 
Anonymous
June 11, 2005 8:29:36 PM

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Sune Salminen's last words before the Sword of Azrial plunged through his
body were:
> Dead_Dad wrote:
>> Might a bootable Linux distro help with determining what the current
>> hardware setup is? I haven't tried it before, but.....
> If you need a bootlable linux distro to find out what hardware is in
> your own computer, then there's no hope for you...

Hey, I've done that before when I've had a machine come through with
unmarked hardware.
Anonymous
June 12, 2005 8:29:35 AM

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Sue Salmon wrote:
> Dead_Dad wrote:
>
>>Sue Salmon wrote:
>
>
> HAHAHA!!!
>
>
>>>It sounds to me like the sound card and the voodoo cards might be
>>>fighting over resources.
>>>
>>>I am sure it will help with your problem if you can find proper
>>>drivers for the Voodoo cards:
>>>http://www.voodoofiles.com/3dfxhelp.asp
>>>And don't forget to install motherboard chipset drivers and DirectX
>>>too. -Sue
>>
>>Might a bootable Linux distro help with determining what the current
>>hardware setup is? I haven't tried it before, but.....
>
>
> If you need a bootlable linux distro to find out what hardware is in
> your own computer, then there's no hope for you...

That's the key phrase: 'your own computer'. As in 'the computer you
hand-picked every component for, and have both the manual(s) & driver
CD(s) in the original box stored carefully away in a closet'. As
opposed to 'the no-name computer you put together from parts your
brother picked up for you at a garage sale with the unlabelled MB &
cards which Windows can't identify'. I won't even get /started/ on
IRQ/DMI/IO/etc. conflicts!!! <PANT><PANT> Sorry for the rant, but I've
been a computer consultant since the days of the original 64K IBM PC,
and I've lived through the nightmare of trying to get 'thrift-store
hardware' to work more times than I care to think about.

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Anonymous
June 13, 2005 11:56:09 PM

Archived from groups: alt.games.mame (More info?)

Dead_Dad wrote:
> Sue Salmon wrote:
> > Dead_Dad wrote:
> >
> >>Sue Salmon wrote:
> >
> >
> > HAHAHA!!!
> >
> >
> >>>It sounds to me like the sound card and the voodoo cards might be
> >>>fighting over resources.
> >>>
> >>>I am sure it will help with your problem if you can find proper
> >>>drivers for the Voodoo cards:
> >>>http://www.voodoofiles.com/3dfxhelp.asp
> >>>And don't forget to install motherboard chipset drivers and DirectX
> >>>too. -Sue
> >>
> >>Might a bootable Linux distro help with determining what the current
> >>hardware setup is? I haven't tried it before, but.....
> >
> >
> > If you need a bootlable linux distro to find out what hardware is in
> > your own computer, then there's no hope for you...
>
> That's the key phrase: 'your own computer'. As in 'the computer you
> hand-picked every component for, and have both the manual(s) & driver
> CD(s) in the original box stored carefully away in a closet'. As
> opposed to 'the no-name computer you put together from parts your
> brother picked up for you at a garage sale with the unlabelled MB &
> cards which Windows can't identify'. I won't even get /started/ on
> IRQ/DMI/IO/etc. conflicts!!! <PANT><PANT> Sorry for the rant, but I've
> been a computer consultant since the days of the original 64K IBM PC,
> and I've lived through the nightmare of trying to get 'thrift-store
> hardware' to work more times than I care to think about.
>
Hey all,

More info on the matter. I tried reverting to the onboard soundchip on
the motherboard but it still did the same thing. Now, I have run up all
sorts of various emulators (VICE, CCS64, GENS, ZSNES, Visual Boy
Advance), plus have played some of my PC games, such as, DOOM, European
Air War, using at different times BOTH the Soundblaster AWE64 & the
onboard sound chip & the ONLY program that stutters is MAME. Everything
else works FINE !!!

AAARRGGHHH I have no idea. I know someone here will say upgrade to the
latest MAME, but my romset is already that old that version 0.67 has so
many games that will no longer run......

It's a real bitch eh


Thanks everyone,
Brad.
Anonymous
June 13, 2005 11:56:10 PM

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KING TIGER wrote:
> Dead_Dad wrote:
>
>> Sue Salmon wrote:
>> > Dead_Dad wrote:
>> >
>> >>Sue Salmon wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > HAHAHA!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >>>It sounds to me like the sound card and the voodoo cards might be
>> >>>fighting over resources.
>> >>>
>> >>>I am sure it will help with your problem if you can find proper
>> >>>drivers for the Voodoo cards:
>> >>>http://www.voodoofiles.com/3dfxhelp.asp
>> >>>And don't forget to install motherboard chipset drivers and DirectX
>> >>>too. -Sue
>> >>
>> >>Might a bootable Linux distro help with determining what the current
>> >>hardware setup is? I haven't tried it before, but.....
>> >
>> >
>> > If you need a bootlable linux distro to find out what hardware is in
>> > your own computer, then there's no hope for you...
>>
>> That's the key phrase: 'your own computer'. As in 'the computer you
>> hand-picked every component for, and have both the manual(s) & driver
>> CD(s) in the original box stored carefully away in a closet'. As
>> opposed to 'the no-name computer you put together from parts your
>> brother picked up for you at a garage sale with the unlabelled MB &
>> cards which Windows can't identify'. I won't even get /started/ on
>> IRQ/DMI/IO/etc. conflicts!!! <PANT><PANT> Sorry for the rant, but
>> I've been a computer consultant since the days of the original 64K IBM
>> PC, and I've lived through the nightmare of trying to get
>> 'thrift-store hardware' to work more times than I care to think about.
>>
> Hey all,
>
> More info on the matter. I tried reverting to the onboard soundchip on
> the motherboard but it still did the same thing. Now, I have run up all
> sorts of various emulators (VICE, CCS64, GENS, ZSNES, Visual Boy
> Advance), plus have played some of my PC games, such as, DOOM, European
> Air War, using at different times BOTH the Soundblaster AWE64 & the
> onboard sound chip & the ONLY program that stutters is MAME. Everything
> else works FINE !!!
>
> AAARRGGHHH I have no idea. I know someone here will say upgrade to the
> latest MAME, but my romset is already that old that version 0.67 has so
> many games that will no longer run......
>
> It's a real bitch eh
>
>
> Thanks everyone,
> Brad.

The best advice I can give you is:
10 MAME.version = .97
20 DOWNLOAD(MAME.version)
30 DOWNLOAD(Stuttering.ROM(MAME.version)
40 TEST(Stuttering.ROM(MAME.version)
50 IF TEST = FAILED THEN MAME.version = MAME.version - 0.01 : GOTO 20

'Nuff said?

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