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I am building a new system and am trying to discern which CPU is better in
terms of longevity and potential to OC (mildly). My main use for this
system will be video editing/creation. I have listed my current CPU choices
below along with the mobo that I am considering. Power supply would be min
400 w (is this enough).

Intel Pentium 4 3.2E GHz (Prescott) - 1MB L2 Cache, HyperThreading, 800MHz
FSB

Intel Pentium 4 3.2C GHz (Northwood) - 512k L2 Cache, HyperThreading, 800MHz
FSB

Asus P4C800-E Deluxe i875P w/Audio, FireWire, Intel Gigabit LAN, ATA &
SATA-RAID, Dual DDR400

Anyone's input would be appreciated, as well as suggestions re other mobos
or CPU's to consider. The one other issue would be ram, and I suppose as
always go the most you can afford.

Thank you in advance to any responders.
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    <noreply@usa.com> wrote in message...
    > I am building a new system and am trying to discern which CPU is
    > better in terms of longevity and potential to OC (mildly).

    The Northwood, although if you're thinking of a mild overclock, a 2.6C or
    2.8C will give you better performance provided it's matched with the right
    board and memory.

    > Intel Pentium 4 3.2E GHz (Prescott) - 1MB L2 Cache, HyperThreading, 800MHz
    > FSB
    > Intel Pentium 4 3.2C GHz (Northwood) - 512k L2 Cache, HyperThreading,
    > 800MHz
    > FSB

    Despite the smaller L2 cache, the Northwood processors are actually quicker,
    clock for clock, to the tune of 10 to 15 percent. The Northwoods also have
    lower power consumption, leading to lower heat dissipation, and thus much
    easier thermal control.

    > Asus P4C800-E Deluxe i875P w/Audio, FireWire, Intel Gigabit LAN, ATA
    > & SATA-RAID, Dual DDR400

    Good board. The other obvious options with a similar feature set are Abit's
    IC7-G and IC7 Max3. Both of these are feature packed, totally stable and
    superb overclockers, with the "Max3" version being the slightly better of
    the two in this respect. It lacks the serial. parallel and infra-red ports
    found on the IC7-G though, so if you need these, your choice will be
    influenced.

    > The one other issue would be ram, and I suppose as always go the
    > most you can afford.

    A lot depends on what applications you're using, but if you're using
    Premiere/Prem Pro, a gig would be a good number to start with.

    Don't forget though that with memory, quality is at least as important as
    quantity. The best all-round performance delta would probably come from a
    2.6C with some high quality PC4000 or PC4400. If you go for the 3.2C it
    won't get to the same sort of FSB's, so you lose out on the potential for
    high memory bandwidth, but you also wouldn't need to shell out on quite such
    fast RAM. Decisions, decisions... :-)
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    > I am building a new system and am trying to discern which CPU is better in
    > terms of longevity and potential to OC (mildly). My main use for this
    > system will be video editing/creation. I have listed my current CPU
    choices
    > below along with the mobo that I am considering. Power supply would be
    min
    > 400 w (is this enough).
    >
    > Intel Pentium 4 3.2E GHz (Prescott) - 1MB L2 Cache, HyperThreading, 800MHz
    > FSB
    >
    > Intel Pentium 4 3.2C GHz (Northwood) - 512k L2 Cache, HyperThreading,
    800MHz
    > FSB
    >
    > Asus P4C800-E Deluxe i875P w/Audio, FireWire, Intel Gigabit LAN, ATA &
    > SATA-RAID, Dual DDR400
    >
    > Anyone's input would be appreciated, as well as suggestions re other mobos
    > or CPU's to consider. The one other issue would be ram, and I suppose as
    > always go the most you can afford.
    >
    > Thank you in advance to any responders.

    For the potential to OC, generally, please check out:
    http://www.cpudatabase.com/CPUdb/
    I think both CPU's you posted performs about the same stocked eventhough the
    prescott has 1MB cache but would have to check that in sissoft sandra to be
    sure.

    If I were in your situation, I would stick with the P4C800 as reviews
    suggest it to be superior to my P4P800SE in terms of overclocking. And
    correct me if I am wrong but I think a Pentium would be better at vid.
    editing/creation than an AMD? So stick with that.

    A thing to consider on the P4C800 is the weird northbridge heatsink mount as
    on my P4P800SE after the revision, it's straight 90 degrees to the AGP slot.
    I guess to accomodate vga cooling solutions. The mount is a weird wired
    hook thing and changing it might be a problem. Even if you're not changing
    it, mounting a fan on it could be a problem also cuz the gaps are too wide
    for screws that mounts 40mm fans. So take note if you're cooling the NB for
    some OC's.

    Well it's cool to go with top notched rams but from benchies, the
    performance gain on enhanced latencies don't really make a big diff to
    justify the price diff. But I don't know if getting 2 sticks of say DDR533
    would improve OC ability instead of 2 sticks of DDR400. So I sticked to 2
    sticks of Corsair Value Select DDR400 and they work great :) Btw, get at
    least 1 gig. I have difficulties editing a A3 poster in illustrator even
    with 1 gig so if I had the money I woulda get 2 sticks of 1 gigs instead.

    Also take note on the front mount firewire port if your case has any. I've
    heard cases that the included pinouts sometimes don't match the ones on the
    mobo's header (weird huh?).

    For PSU, get something over 450W from a good brand such as OCZ, Antec, etc.
    as you'll prolly have some hdd's in the box for your large files.
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