What a bargain!!!

I agree, to a point. It'll help drive down prices quicker than normal and
finally when one format wins, it'll be great. I'm in no hurry.

kinda' like sony's super cd audio format that went no where... The best buy by me has plenty of cd's in that format... except they don't have a single player for sale

I'll wait until, yes there's a winner, but more importantly when the
price is right. My point was just that with 2 competing prices should come
down faster than if there was just 1. That was my only but.

Hey, with 18 month old and a 4.5 year old girls my HDTV is dominated by
f*cking Strawberry Shortcake and Noggin anyways!

It'll be great, until it's replaced in a few years by something else.

The same old story, gotta go out and by the White Album again.

A format war is a standard plot to rob early adaptors of more cash. It's a neat trick too. I bet the big vendors draw straws each time there's another opportunity for a format war, and have a good laugh over it afterwards.


Just the fact that you contemplate waiting till a standard is determined already disqualifies you as a serious early adaptor Well, ok you can contemplate it, just tell us though when you've fallen for it anyways.

LOL. I know exactly what you mean...

While you wait its easy enough to fork over $79.99 on a 1080i upconvert dvd player to watch your standard dvd's in better quality than just progressive scan. Provided you have an HD tv that is...

My buddy has on eo fthose DVD players. While some DVD's look better,
some actually look worse on it.

What's the benefit of a blue laser over a red laser?

Wanna know a dirty little secret?

All that security stuff is going to mess with EVERYONE who has an HDTV, the security tags in DVDs sometimes think you are copiing the DVD so they lower the quality of an upconvert player from 1080i down to 480i ot even lower in some cases.

Figure out which upconvert player he has and what DVDs look worse and poke around abd my guess that he is using Component cables or something that isn't HDCP certified.


SSSSSShhhhhh, dont tell anyone.......

i sell upconvert players and HDTV's everyday, and i see shit like this EVERYDAY.

You may have to explain to him why shorter is better in this particular case.

A blue laser can be focused more than a red.

Let's say writing with a crayon is a red laser. Move over to a fine point pen would be using a blue laser.

Which means you can store more data on a DVD because it takes up less space since your laser can read/write 'finer.'

I think he was joking jackass. LOL.

I.E., penis size?

Ur funny sometimes.

Correct. Only useful though if you don't store the information too close to the surface of the disc and render it prone to scratching.

It's a Samsung, don't know the model no. He uses the DVI connector.
Thanks for the info.

DVI isn't HDCP.....its a dirty little secret.....none of the companies are telling people that HDMI is the ONLY way to watch HDCP mataerial.

DVI is his problem....if he switches to HDMI ALL movies will look better.

Most of the studios have said they're not going to do ICT.Link.

Yeah....its something thats WAY messed up....but its out there.


I think its hillarious that there are no rules, standards or even guidlines for products that are to hit the market the 31st of March for HD-DVD and Aug for BlueRay.

You would be amazed how messed up things are.....only ONE 1080p TV today will be able to display 1080p from networks when that comes around. Because none of the others have the HDCP decoder built in. So the other 25-50 1080p tvs are useless for 1080p.

There is so much about HD, HDtv's, HD media, and HD setups that average and even above average people dont know its SCARY.

hell i know some, but i am still kinda lost....and i know more then 99% of people

Yes, not everything is HD 24/7....and sometimes they merely upconvert the signal and it looks like poo.

Comcastr actually has more HD channels then anthing else, and its moe then 10. they are upto like 28 i think.....but thats on the channels side. IF they could get everythign in HD they would broadcast it in HD. Blame the channels NOT the TV's or Comcast for this one.

Blame Speilburg....the directors make movies in like 15 formats, so the tv doesn't know. newer ones you can actually tell it what format the movie is in so you can zoom properly...but its still a pain. Deal with the black bars and have everythign in normal aspect ratio.

See above

THis is because Fox is recording in 1080i and down converts to 720P.....giving you a 1sec lag but making the images CRAZY SMOOTH. CBS however records it in 720p native and you get pixelation problems.

Yes from channel to channel it varies what quality of HD you will get....

But none of these have to do with the actual TV's.

People make so many snap judgements about stuff and then forget that there are about 50 companies and about 2,500 people who make content.....they can't all agree on how to do it.

Unfortunatly this is just how it is for a while.....If HD tv's were in movie formats your TV shows would look stupid.....so its a compirmise of all of them. the only true 16:9 stuff is HD broadcasts.



btw, what TV do you have?

I love the samsung CRT's....they have a slimfit now thats only 16" deep but its still abeast.