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"Rick" <nospam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "dr ratt" <spamsum1else@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > considering when this vid card was released, if you were an ati engineer
> > would you have spent any time at all tweaking this card to run on so
pitiful
> > a machine as you describe?
>
> Give me a break. The 9700 Pro dates from 2002, Intel's BX
> was, by far, the biggest installed base of any chipset at that point.
> Some mobo manufacturers had even released products a year
> earlier (e.g. Abit's BX133) that were fully supported at 133FSB.
>
> Damned right ATI should have made it work.
>
> > incidentally, the pro indicates that overclocking potential is built-in,
but
> > that refers to gpu & vram speeds.
> > bottom line here is that if something doesn't work outside its design
> > envelope, then tough.
>
> In this case, it's an ATI problem. Six years later and their attitude
> still hasn't changed. But whatever. As I mentioned the FX 5900
> Ultra is working a treat at 89MHz, _and_ it's 50% faster than the
> 9700 Pro (at least once I finally upgrade my system). Long live
> Nvidia.
>
>
sorry to burst your bubble but new gfx/sound/whatever cards [regardless of
manufacturer] are aimed at new chipsets, not what's current but surpassed,
that's just the computer business.
if you're happier running an nvidia that's your business & prerogative. my
experience is that the 9700pro is the ONLY gfx card i haven't had a problem
with since voodoo 3 [i'm not counting that it should've been full 32bit
colour, it performed to spec perfectly]. driver support is {&was for v3}
excellent and reliable; ie new drivers work & aren't a waste of download
bandwidth.
from v3, i went to tnt2, gf2, then gf3, then gf4 then the ati. in essence i
went from upgrading video roughly every year [with nvidia]to, well, i've
been on this 9700pro about 2.5 years now.
fx5900 =150% of 9700 performance, only on your rig, m8. put it in a real
board & post the results [3d01/03/05] at standard settings. [refresh my
memory - the gf5 series cards aren't dx9, yes/no?]
even though i feel like i want a new game rig right now [ah heck drops below
30fps if i want more than 7 bots on cs.s], i'm waiting for ati's mvp for
amd64 rather than spend my money now on an nf4-sli & 2xgf6800ultra system,
that's how happy i am with ati.
also, as someone else said, i'll pay you postage for that trash.
i'll put money where my mouth is, how about you put a gfx card where yours
is?
dr ratt
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