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Anonymous   08-02-2005 at 07:00:54 AM

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Athlon64 X2 3800+ Feedback need I WANT one but is it good ??


Whats the difference to the 4200. Which was the one i wanted but to
expensive. Why is the 3800 X2 less expensive ?


Thanlks.

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Anonymous   08-03-2005 at 08:33:17 AM
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> Whats the difference to the 4200. Which was the one i wanted but to
> expensive. Why is the 3800 X2 less expensive ?

X1 3800 = 2400mhz 1mb cache.

X2 3800 = 2000mhz 512kb L2 cache per core
X2 4000 = 2000mhz 1mb L2 cache per core (not yet announced but im sure its
to come.....)

X2 4200 = 2200mhz 512kb L2 cache per core
X2 4400 = 2200mhz 1mb L2 cache per core

X2 4600 = 2400mhz 512kb L2 cache per core
X2 4800 = 2400mhz 1mb L2 cache per core

200mhz is all the difference between the 3800 and 4200. And that would be
hardly noticeable.

Im also willing to bet that *ALL* (ok ok 99.5% hehe) X2 3800s will overclock
to 4200 speeds, if not 4600 speeds.

I have a X2 4400 myself and im very happy with it. So happy that when the
4000 comes out (if it does) i will probably by 2 more for my other
systems.......(i prefer 1mb cores)

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Gollum   08-03-2005 at 09:55:23 PM
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 01:00:54 +1000, No One Realy <No one.com> wrote:

>Athlon64 X2 3800+ Feedback need I WANT one but is it good ??
>
>
>Whats the difference to the 4200. Which was the one i wanted but to
>expensive. Why is the 3800 X2 less expensive ?
>
>
>Thanlks.


The die size is smaller 147mm^2 vs 233 and 199mm^2 for its big
brothers. Smaller die = lower cost.

The cache accounts for a major percentage of the transistors. This was
designed with a 512 cache, The 4200 with 1mb and 512 caches are the
same die, when there were defects in the 1mb AMD made it a 512.

I have read that the 3800+ doesn't OC quite as much as the 4200+, but
that may improve as AMD gets the bugs worked out of the manufacturing
process.

Gollum

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