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Please?

I have a pentium 4 2.66 Ghz 533 MHz FSB


I don't have the slightest idea of how to do this. when I press del at
the place where your supposed to press it I go to the blue screen, then
I select clock speed and voltage, then it says my clock speed is
133...huh? What do I do?
 
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<potnisanish@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Please?

Please what? Sorry if this sounds blunt, but we're not potnisanish's
personal support crew, so if you want your butt wiping, you're going to have
to do it yourself.

If you want a "step by step" guide to overclocking, there are loads out
there on the web so do a bit of work yourself and find one. You haven't
given us anywhere near enough specific info to be able to help you so even
if someone's keen, it's not possible to tell you what to do to overclock
your particular system, beyond the most generalised concepts with which
you're probably already familiar.

> I have a pentium 4 2.66 Ghz 533 MHz FSB

....and? What motherboard? What memory?

> I don't have the slightest idea of how to do this.

Well maybe you should do a little more research before you start mucking
about with system settings you don't understand, and that could, with a bit
of bad luck, mess your system up quite thoroughly?

> when I press del at the place where your supposed to press it I go
> to the blue screen, then I select clock speed and voltage, then it
> says my clock speed is 133...huh? What do I do?

Well you obviously know where to look. As to what you do, well, to start
with, if you want to overclock your CPU you need to set the FSB as something
greater than 133MHz. However, there are knock-on effects and other settings
you may need to alter, so this is where you need to get a handle on what
you're doing first.

You obviously know what Google is. All the info you need right now is out
there somewhere, right now. It would have been a lot quicker for you to do a
bit of searching and find the info you want than it has been for you to
write this post and me reply to it. Like I said, if it basic stuff you wanna
learn, you'll find it on the web. Once you've got some specific questions,
or things you're stuck on, that's the point you wanna be thinking about
posting to newsgroups.
--


Richard Hopkins
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
(replace nospam with pipex in reply address)

The UK's leading technology reseller www.dabs.com
 
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'potnisanish' wrote:
| Please?
|
| I have a pentium 4 2.66 Ghz 533 MHz FSB
|
|
| I don't have the slightest idea of how to do this. when I press del at
| the place where your supposed to press it I go to the blue screen, then
| I select clock speed and voltage, then it says my clock speed is
| 133...huh? What do I do?
_____

A whole lot of people who have no idea of how to overclock have been
successful in overclocking. If the motherboard is 'overclocking friendly',
an Intel CPU is very easy to overclock. If the motherboard is NOT
'overclocking friendly' the task is much more difficult. If your
motherboard is 'overclocking friendly' the manual likely gives all the
information necessary to overclock, though the manual may have been
translanted back and forth among several languanges, and the information may
be a bit confusing.

#1. Raising the CPU voltage can destroy your CPU. NEVER raise the CPU
voltage more than 15%, and if you do raise it, do it in very small steps.

#2. Raising the CPU clock speed will NOT damage your Intel CPU,
motherboard, memory, or anything else. If you raise the clock speed too
much, the system will either to run in a stable manner, or will fail to
boot. This is not a problem because either the BIOS will automatically
reset to default values or there will be directions in the manual on how to
reset to default speeds.

#3. In overclocking, make any changes in small steps, checking for proper
operation after each change.

#4. Overclocking works best when the CPU temperature is kept as low as
possible.

#5. Intel CPUs can ONLY be overclocked by raising the clock speed. Even if
the multiplier can be set in the BIOS, changing this settings has NO effect.

#6. Some older motherboards may report an incorrect speed for CPUs that
have a higher speed than available when the BIOS was installed.

#7. Intel CPUs have a quad-pumped memory bus; that means data is transfered
four times for each clock cycle; for a 533 MHz Frontside Bus speed the clock
speed is 133 MHz. That 133 MHz clock speed is multiplied by a factor FIXED
and UNCHANGABLE inside the CPU to give the overall CPU clock speed. For
your 2660 MHz CPU, the multiplier is X 20 (133 MHz X 20 = 2660 MHZ.)

#8. The rated speed of the installed memory can limit the overclock.
Memory can be overclocked, but it will eventualy reach a limit. Faster
memory can be installed, but the cost may not be worth it. The memory clock
can be set to a lower ratio (with some motherboards) to allow higher clock
speeds, but there is a performance penalty.

A reasonable goal for your CPU is 3.33 GHz. With luck and good cooling over
3.5 GHz should be possible.

How you overclock depends on the specifics of your system, how much patience
you have, and much attention you pay to details.

A general approach:

* Download and install MotherBoard Monitor 5 (free) at
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ . This will allow you to monitor and
record the CPU speeds, fan speeds, CPU temperature (and perhaps motherboard,
memory, and other temperatures, and voltages.)

* Download and install SiSoft Sandra (free) at
http://www.sisoftware.net/ . This program is a collection of
information gathering applets for your system. It also has low level tests
of performance, as well as stress tests (necessary to establish proper
operation when the CPU is operating at full capacity. I find version 2004
more useful than 2005, but 2004 is hard to find now.

* Use MotherBoard Monitor 4 and SiSoft Sandra because the vast majority of
the people who use this forum also use these applications

* Read the manual carefully.

* Clean the heatsink fins, and fans of all dust, grease, and dirt.

* Write down the settings in the BIOS.

* Write down the temperature and voltage information from SiSoft Sandra.

* Check the voltages reported by MotherBoard Monitor 5 for you system. If
any are outside the specifications this may affect the operation of your
system, especially if it is overclocked. Also check the total rated output
of your power supply, if it is marginal, overclocking (since more power is
required) may also be marginal.

* Steps for overclocking your Intel CPU (only after completing the above
recommendations):

#0. The standard setup for PCI bus and AGP bus speeds are fractions of
the clock speed. Make sure the PCI/AGP Bus speeds are instead locked at 33
MHz/67 MHz; if the PCI bus speed is more than 36 MHz corruption of data on
your hard drives can occur.

#1. Increase the clock speed by 5%.

#2. Reboot and check for operation.

#3. If #2 is successful, repeat #1.

#4. If #2 is not successful, raise the CPU core voltage by 0.05 volts
(in NO case raise this voltage to more than a total of 15%, doing so may
instantly destroy your CPU; when the core voltage reaches this limit go to
#6.)

#5. Go to #2.

#6. You have reached the limit of overclocking without changing other
factors which may include CPU cooling, System cooling, memory settings.
Installing memory capable of higher clock speeds may help. On the other
hand, some of these changes may be expensive, and not worth the money for
the possible performance increase.


* After reaching the highest speed, check operation under full CPU load (use
SiSoft Sandra burn-in, other burn-in programs, or intense action 3D
accelerated first-person shooter games.) If the system is not stable under
heavy load, try reducing the clock speed and/or CPU core voltage (higher
voltage means higher operating temperatures.)

* Check the installation of the CPU heatsink; new heatsink compound may help
CPU cooling.

* A better than stock heatsink/fan may aid overclocking.

* Improved system cooling may aid overclocking.

* Exotic cooling of the CPU to room temperature or below can significantly
increase top speeds (or not, depending on the individual CPU speed, memory
quality, and motherboard.)

WARNINGS!!!
* Increasing the CPU voltage above 15% over specifications is likely to
INSTANTLY destroy the CPU
* There is always a chance that when you start fooling around inside the
system case of your computer that you may cause damage (the butterfinger
factor.)

You can find a LOT of additional information on the Internet, including the
speeds that others overclockers have reached with your model CPU. One
question you must ask yourself is WHY you wish to overclock; I can think of
three reasons:

#1. Higher performance at little or no expense with your present
system.

#2. Just because you can, and enjoy experimenting

#3. Bragging rights - the highest possible speeds (which is going to
require a LOT more money.

Don't let this long list intimidate you; just go along step by step.

I am posting this on a system using
aBit TH7-II (Intel 850 chipset) motherboard
Pentium 4 2.6 GHz 400 MHz FSB Northwood CPU
PC800 RDRAM 640 MBytes
Stock CPU cooling
450 Watt Antec Power Supply

I selected a clock speed in the BIOS of 121 MHz, giving a CPU speed of 121
MHz X 26 = 3146 MHz. The CPU will overclock to a higher speed, but the
memory will not. To reach a higher CPU speed requires setting the memory
clock/CPU clock ratio to other than 1, which reduces performance. Since I
just want improved AND reliable performance and not the highest possible
clock speed, 3146 suits me fine, though with async setting 3.5 GHz is easily
reached.

Good luck.

Phil Weldon




<potnisanish@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Please?
>
> I have a pentium 4 2.66 Ghz 533 MHz FSB
>
>
> I don't have the slightest idea of how to do this. when I press del at
> the place where your supposed to press it I go to the blue screen, then
> I select clock speed and voltage, then it says my clock speed is
> 133...huh? What do I do?
>
 
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Corrected version of original post (minor changes) on how to overclock an
Intel CPU

A whole lot of people who have no idea of how to overclock have been
successful in overclocking. If the motherboard is 'overclocking friendly',
an Intel CPU is very easy to overclock. If the motherboard is NOT
'overclocking friendly' the task is much more difficult. If your
motherboard is 'overclocking friendly' the manual likely gives all the
information necessary to overclock, though the manual may have been
translanted back and forth among several languanges, and the information may
be a bit confusing.

#1. Raising the CPU voltage can destroy your CPU. NEVER raise the CPU
voltage more than 15% above the default voltage specified by Intel.
If you do raise it, do it in very small steps.

#2. Raising the CPU clock speed will NOT damage your Intel CPU,
motherboard, memory, or anything else. If you raise the clock speed too
much, the system will either not run in a stable manner, or will fail to
boot. This is not a problem because either the BIOS will automatically
reset to default values or there will be directions in the manual on how to
reset to default speeds.

#3. In overclocking, make any changes in small steps, checking for proper
operation after each change.

#4. Overclocking works best when the CPU temperature is kept as low as
possible.

#5. Intel CPUs can ONLY be overclocked by raising the clock speed. Even if
the multiplier can be set in the BIOS, changing this settings has NO effect.

#6. Some older motherboards may report an incorrect speed for CPUs that
have a higher speed than available when the BIOS was installed.

#7. Intel CPUs have a quad-pumped memory bus; that means data is transfered
four times for each clock cycle; for a 533 MHz Frontside Bus speed the clock
speed is 133 MHz. That 133 MHz clock speed is multiplied by a factor FIXED
and UNCHANGABLE inside the CPU to give the overall CPU clock speed. For
your 2660 MHz CPU, the multiplier is X 20 (133 MHz X 20 = 2660 MHZ.)

#8. The rated speed of the installed memory can limit the overclock.
Memory can be overclocked, but it will eventualy reach a limit. Faster
memory can be installed, but the cost may not be worth it. The memory clock
can be set to a lower ratio (with some motherboards) to allow higher clock
speeds, but there is a performance penalty.

A reasonable goal for your CPU is 3.33 GHz. With luck and good cooling over
3.5 GHz should be possible.

How you overclock depends on the specifics of your system, how much patience
you have, and much attention you pay to details.

A general approach:

* Download and install MotherBoard Monitor 5 (free) at
http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ . This will allow you to monitor and
record the CPU speeds, fan speeds, CPU temperature (and perhaps motherboard,
memory, and other temperatures), and voltages. The power supply voltages
reported by MotherBoard Monitor 5 should meet the specifications of ATX12V
that can be found at
http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/ATX12V_PSDG_2_2_public_br2.pdf

* Download and install SiSoft Sandra (free) at
http://www.sisoftware.net/ . This program is a collection of
information gathering applets for your system. It also has low level tests
of performance, as well as stress tests (necessary to establish proper
operation when the CPU is operating at full capacity. I find version 2004
more useful than 2005, but 2004 is hard to find now.

* Use MotherBoard Monitor 4 and SiSoft Sandra because the vast majority of
the people who use this forum also use these applications

* Read the manual carefully.

* Clean the heatsink fins, and fans of all dust, grease, and dirt.

* Write down the settings in the BIOS.

* Write down the temperature and voltage information from MotherBoard
Monitor 5.

* Check the voltages reported by MotherBoard Monitor 5 for you system. If
any are outside the specifications this may affect the operation of your
system, especially if it is overclocked. Also check the total rated output
of your power supply, if it is marginal, overclocking (since more power is
required) may also be marginal.

* Steps for overclocking your Intel CPU (only after completing the above
recommendations):

#0. The standard setup for PCI bus and AGP bus speeds are fractions of
the clock speed. Make sure the PCI/AGP Bus speeds are instead locked at 33
MHz/66 MHz; if the PCI bus speed is more than 36 MHz corruption of data on
your hard drives can occur.

#1. Increase the clock speed by 5%.

#2. Reboot and check for proper operation.

#3. If #2 is successful, repeat #1.

#4. If #2 is not successful, raise the CPU core voltage by 0.05 volts
(in NO case raise this voltage to more than a total of 15%, doing so may
instantly destroy your CPU; when the core voltage reaches this limit go to
#6.)

#5. Go to #2.

#6. You have reached the limit of overclocking without changing other
factors which may include CPU cooling, System cooling, memory settings.
Installing memory capable of higher clock speeds may help. On the other
hand, some of these changes may be expensive, and not worth the money for
the possible performance increase.


* After reaching the highest speed, check operation under full CPU load (use
SiSoft Sandra burn-in, other burn-in programs, or intense action 3D
accelerated first-person shooter games.) If the system is not stable under
heavy load, try reducing the clock speed and/or CPU core voltage (higher
voltage means higher operating temperatures.)

* Check the installation of the CPU heatsink; new heatsink compound may help
CPU cooling. Find directions for using heatsink compound on the internet.

* A better than stock heatsink/fan may aid overclocking.

* Improved system cooling may aid overclocking.

* Exotic cooling of the CPU to room temperature or below can significantly
increase top speeds (or not, depending on the individual CPU speed, memory
quality, and motherboard.)

WARNINGS!!!
* Increasing the CPU voltage above 15% over specifications is likely to
INSTANTLY destroy the CPU
* There is always a chance that when you start fooling around inside the
system case of your computer that you may cause damage (the butterfinger
factor.)

You can find a LOT of additional information on the Internet, including the
speeds that others overclockers have reached with your model CPU. One
question you must ask yourself is WHY you wish to overclock; I can think of
three reasons:

#1. Higher performance at little or no expense with your present
system.

#2. Just because you can, and enjoy experimenting

#3. Bragging rights - the highest possible speeds (which is going to
require a LOT more money.

Don't let this long list intimidate you; just go along step by step.

I am posting this on a system using
aBit TH7-II (Intel 850 chipset) motherboard
Pentium 4 2.6 GHz 400 MHz FSB Northwood CPU
PC800 RDRAM 640 MBytes
Stock CPU cooling
450 Watt Antec Power Supply
With a room ambient temperature of ~ 26 C

idle temperatures
CPU 40 C
motherboard 34 C
memory 31 C

heavy load temperatures
CPU 51 C
motherboard 38 C
memory 33 C

I selected a clock speed in the BIOS of 121 MHz, giving a CPU speed of 121
MHz X 26 = 3146 MHz. The CPU will overclock to a higher speed, but the
memory will not. To reach a higher CPU speed requires setting the memory
clock/CPU clock ratio to other than 1, which reduces performance. Since I
just want improved AND reliable performance and not the highest possible
clock speed, 3146 suits me fine, though with async setting 3.5 GHz is easily
reached.

Good luck.

Phil Weldon
 

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"Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed@example.com> wrote in message
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> 'potnisanish' wrote:
> | Please?
> |
> | I have a pentium 4 2.66 Ghz 533 MHz FSB
> |
> |
> | I don't have the slightest idea of how to do this. when I press del at
> | the place where your supposed to press it I go to the blue screen, then
> | I select clock speed and voltage, then it says my clock speed is
> | 133...huh? What do I do?
> _____
>
> A whole lot of people who have no idea of how to overclock have been
> successful in overclocking. If the motherboard is 'overclocking
> friendly', an Intel CPU is very easy to overclock. If the motherboard is
> NOT 'overclocking friendly' the task is much more difficult. If your
> motherboard is 'overclocking friendly' the manual likely gives all the
> information necessary to overclock, though the manual may have been
> translanted back and forth among several languanges, and the information
> may be a bit confusing.
>
> #1. Raising the CPU voltage can destroy your CPU. NEVER raise the CPU
> voltage more than 15%, and if you do raise it, do it in very small steps.
>
> #2. Raising the CPU clock speed will NOT damage your Intel CPU,
> motherboard, memory, or anything else. If you raise the clock speed too
> much, the system will either to run in a stable manner, or will fail to
> boot. This is not a problem because either the BIOS will automatically
> reset to default values or there will be directions in the manual on how
> to reset to default speeds.
>
> #3. In overclocking, make any changes in small steps, checking for proper
> operation after each change.
>
> #4. Overclocking works best when the CPU temperature is kept as low as
> possible.
>
> #5. Intel CPUs can ONLY be overclocked by raising the clock speed. Even
> if the multiplier can be set in the BIOS, changing this settings has NO
> effect.
>
> #6. Some older motherboards may report an incorrect speed for CPUs that
> have a higher speed than available when the BIOS was installed.
>
> #7. Intel CPUs have a quad-pumped memory bus; that means data is
> transfered four times for each clock cycle; for a 533 MHz Frontside Bus
> speed the clock speed is 133 MHz. That 133 MHz clock speed is multiplied
> by a factor FIXED and UNCHANGABLE inside the CPU to give the overall CPU
> clock speed. For your 2660 MHz CPU, the multiplier is X 20 (133 MHz X 20
> = 2660 MHZ.)
>
> #8. The rated speed of the installed memory can limit the overclock.
> Memory can be overclocked, but it will eventualy reach a limit. Faster
> memory can be installed, but the cost may not be worth it. The memory
> clock can be set to a lower ratio (with some motherboards) to allow higher
> clock speeds, but there is a performance penalty.
>
> A reasonable goal for your CPU is 3.33 GHz. With luck and good cooling
> over 3.5 GHz should be possible.
>
> How you overclock depends on the specifics of your system, how much
> patience you have, and much attention you pay to details.
>
> A general approach:
>
> * Download and install MotherBoard Monitor 5 (free) at
> http://mbm.livewiredev.com/ . This will allow you to monitor and
> record the CPU speeds, fan speeds, CPU temperature (and perhaps
> motherboard, memory, and other temperatures, and voltages.)
>
> * Download and install SiSoft Sandra (free) at
> http://www.sisoftware.net/ . This program is a collection of
> information gathering applets for your system. It also has low level
> tests of performance, as well as stress tests (necessary to establish
> proper operation when the CPU is operating at full capacity. I find
> version 2004 more useful than 2005, but 2004 is hard to find now.
>
> * Use MotherBoard Monitor 4 and SiSoft Sandra because the vast majority of
> the people who use this forum also use these applications
>
> * Read the manual carefully.
>
> * Clean the heatsink fins, and fans of all dust, grease, and dirt.
>
> * Write down the settings in the BIOS.
>
> * Write down the temperature and voltage information from SiSoft Sandra.
>
> * Check the voltages reported by MotherBoard Monitor 5 for you system. If
> any are outside the specifications this may affect the operation of your
> system, especially if it is overclocked. Also check the total rated
> output of your power supply, if it is marginal, overclocking (since more
> power is required) may also be marginal.
>
> * Steps for overclocking your Intel CPU (only after completing the above
> recommendations):
>
> #0. The standard setup for PCI bus and AGP bus speeds are fractions of
> the clock speed. Make sure the PCI/AGP Bus speeds are instead locked at
> 33 MHz/67 MHz; if the PCI bus speed is more than 36 MHz corruption of data
> on your hard drives can occur.
>
> #1. Increase the clock speed by 5%.
>
> #2. Reboot and check for operation.
>
> #3. If #2 is successful, repeat #1.
>
> #4. If #2 is not successful, raise the CPU core voltage by 0.05 volts
> (in NO case raise this voltage to more than a total of 15%, doing so may
> instantly destroy your CPU; when the core voltage reaches this limit go to
> #6.)
>
> #5. Go to #2.
>
> #6. You have reached the limit of overclocking without changing other
> factors which may include CPU cooling, System cooling, memory settings.
> Installing memory capable of higher clock speeds may help. On the other
> hand, some of these changes may be expensive, and not worth the money for
> the possible performance increase.
>
>
> * After reaching the highest speed, check operation under full CPU load
> (use SiSoft Sandra burn-in, other burn-in programs, or intense action 3D
> accelerated first-person shooter games.) If the system is not stable
> under heavy load, try reducing the clock speed and/or CPU core voltage
> (higher voltage means higher operating temperatures.)
>
> * Check the installation of the CPU heatsink; new heatsink compound may
> help CPU cooling.
>
> * A better than stock heatsink/fan may aid overclocking.
>
> * Improved system cooling may aid overclocking.
>
> * Exotic cooling of the CPU to room temperature or below can
> significantly increase top speeds (or not, depending on the individual CPU
> speed, memory quality, and motherboard.)
>
> WARNINGS!!!
> * Increasing the CPU voltage above 15% over specifications is likely to
> INSTANTLY destroy the CPU
> * There is always a chance that when you start fooling around inside the
> system case of your computer that you may cause damage (the butterfinger
> factor.)
>
> You can find a LOT of additional information on the Internet, including
> the speeds that others overclockers have reached with your model CPU. One
> question you must ask yourself is WHY you wish to overclock; I can think
> of three reasons:
>
> #1. Higher performance at little or no expense with your present
> system.
>
> #2. Just because you can, and enjoy experimenting
>
> #3. Bragging rights - the highest possible speeds (which is going to
> require a LOT more money.
>
> Don't let this long list intimidate you; just go along step by step.
>
> I am posting this on a system using
> aBit TH7-II (Intel 850 chipset) motherboard
> Pentium 4 2.6 GHz 400 MHz FSB Northwood CPU
> PC800 RDRAM 640 MBytes
> Stock CPU cooling
> 450 Watt Antec Power Supply
>
> I selected a clock speed in the BIOS of 121 MHz, giving a CPU speed of 121
> MHz X 26 = 3146 MHz. The CPU will overclock to a higher speed, but the
> memory will not. To reach a higher CPU speed requires setting the memory
> clock/CPU clock ratio to other than 1, which reduces performance. Since I
> just want improved AND reliable performance and not the highest possible
> clock speed, 3146 suits me fine, though with async setting 3.5 GHz is
> easily reached.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
>
>
>
> <potnisanish@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1125941211.686417.152270@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> Please?
>>
>> I have a pentium 4 2.66 Ghz 533 MHz FSB
>>
>>
>> I don't have the slightest idea of how to do this. when I press del at
>> the place where your supposed to press it I go to the blue screen, then
>> I select clock speed and voltage, then it says my clock speed is
>> 133...huh? What do I do?
>>
>
>
 
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No spoon feeding!! If you are clueless about overclocking,don't do it until
you understand the basics. You could damage your system. Try searching
Google "overclocking".

<potnisanish@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1125941211.686417.152270@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Please?
>
> I have a pentium 4 2.66 Ghz 533 MHz FSB
>
>
> I don't have the slightest idea of how to do this. when I press del at
> the place where your supposed to press it I go to the blue screen, then
> I select clock speed and voltage, then it says my clock speed is
> 133...huh? What do I do?
>