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July 7, 2012 12:17:25 AM

hehe, someone feels threatened huh...
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July 7, 2012 12:39:25 AM

I have to say it again on this post, recently Apple patented the design of their MacBook Air which had the other posting fuming with hate.
Microsoft wants to capture the market this time with Windows 8 and to do this it needed to create something it had control over. Acer, instead of innovating, they copy and cheapen designs that are worthless knock-offs. People don't want knock-offs, they want something that is stylish and cool.

Instead of Acer complaining, they need to bring out something that will gain wide acceptance than thank Microsoft for kicking them in the rear...

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July 7, 2012 12:48:38 AM

acer... there is a reason i stear clear of everything they brand...

if you didnt want microsoft to join, maybe you shouldn't have sucked so much.
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July 7, 2012 12:51:56 AM

Microsoft Founder: Acer Should Stick To Making Cheap Laptops
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July 7, 2012 12:54:06 AM

A popular internet meme is perfect for this...

You jelly Mr. Acer founder?
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July 7, 2012 1:12:29 AM

Begun, the tablet war has.
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July 7, 2012 1:30:39 AM

lol, acer should talk, if there is a brand with the most hardware fails in the world, it's acer!
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July 7, 2012 1:42:59 AM

Get the fuck outta here Acer, we want that IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 back with improved materials and sensor!

till then, Get your tounge stuck on a frozen street lamp
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July 7, 2012 1:54:56 AM

And Acer should stick with...Well nothing, Acer fucking sucks.
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July 7, 2012 2:48:15 AM

great article!
OEM's will ultimately win with not being partnered with Redmond anymore, why continue to face a loss since everytime msft creates something it fails and majority of the loss is taken by the partners.

This is the same thing going on right now with box as they screw their gaming business partners!
Its a shame all those game developers still do not understand that manufacturing cd's, the majority of their revenue will be wiped out very very soon. Those game companies will take a serious beating when they roll complete online games without cd's. Another blow to OEM's and game manufacturers. They are basically taking all the money now and giving a tiny percentage to game developers, when before that actually made more distributing their own cd's. Now the game will turn and MSFT will steal all of majority of the profits from the developers and give them a fraction of percent. Disgusting how they helped xbox become what they are and now msft will do as it has always done in the past in every product they ever build. Why do you think activision is selling their stake? Cause they already know that there will be zero profit left in this market...
Why support a company that will not support locally. Why support a company that will not hire American natural born citizens? Why support a company that hires thousands of inmates in prisons in Washington and Texas to package Microsoft products for pennies an hour? Why even care anymore about a failing company that would do anything to compete even it they have to steal the profits from its own partners?

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July 7, 2012 3:14:22 AM

acer is very afraid of microsoft
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July 7, 2012 3:23:02 AM

boycottmicrosoftgreat article!OEM's will ultimately win with not being partnered with Redmond anymore, why continue to face a loss since everytime msft creates something it fails and majority of the loss is taken by the partners.This is the same thing going on right now with box as they screw their gaming business partners!Its a shame all those game developers still do not understand that manufacturing cd's, the majority of their revenue will be wiped out very very soon. Those game companies will take a serious beating when they roll complete online games without cd's. Another blow to OEM's and game manufacturers. They are basically taking all the money now and giving a tiny percentage to game developers, when before that actually made more distributing their own cd's. Now the game will turn and MSFT will steal all of majority of the profits from the developers and give them a fraction of percent. Disgusting how they helped xbox become what they are and now msft will do as it has always done in the past in every product they ever build. Why do you think activision is selling their stake? Cause they already know that there will be zero profit left in this market...Why support a company that will not support locally. Why support a company that will not hire American natural born citizens? Why support a company that hires thousands of inmates in prisons in Washington and Texas to package Microsoft products for pennies an hour? Why even care anymore about a failing company that would do anything to compete even it they have to steal the profits from its own partners?


I was going to comment on how biased your post was, then I read your username.
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July 7, 2012 3:58:46 AM

Acer can no longer build cheap junk with poor software support and blame all the BSODs to Microsoft Windows Team anymore. Boo-hoo.
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Anonymous
July 7, 2012 4:39:50 AM

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In this extreme polarity and almost fracture of Humankind, the good news are from the fact that Bill Gates, the richest man in the World, is on the side of Equality.
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For example, those who claim superiority for themselves or for others like who believe in queens and kings or also the followers of those Religions that still today are fired up by our difference and not by what we have in common.

We will see if the whole Snake will survive or only Its Head.

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July 7, 2012 5:57:11 AM

.... Microsoft Should Stick With Software? a big YES!!! M$ with all of it's apple envy will pud down the whole PC industry...
... M$ is starting to lose some key OEM partners, like hp...
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-RT-HP-Jelly-Be...
... nokia is considering plan B...
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Nokia-Windows-Phone-Conting...
... ultrabooks are not doing so well and windows 8 will not help...
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Acer-S3-Cost-Production-L...
... and on'n'on...
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July 7, 2012 8:22:45 AM

MS is doing the right thing. Might as well do something right yourself the first time instead of having other OEMs making super inferior products at launch making W8 look worst. MS surely learned from the spam of shit android tablets that arrived after the 1st iPad launch. Acer iconia is NOT a very good tablet. Now they have to focus on making something better than the MS tablet.
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July 7, 2012 8:34:36 AM

I'd rather Microsoft make a tablet than another Xbox.
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July 7, 2012 1:12:32 PM

Acer/Asus/HP/Toshiba/Fujitsu/Dell etc. etc. have all been MS's Achilles heel.

They have sat on their backsides and penny pinched for the past 5 years. Whilst creaming off money by installing buggy crapware that ruins the Windows experience.

This has let Apple run away with cool looking products even if the tech inside them is a year behind the Windows machines (not in all cases).

These companies just make MS look shabby when it's not the case.

It's about time MS took the stick to them and hopefully we might start seeing laptops that don't have crappy glossy plastic, crappy 1366x768 TN screens, Intel graphics and loaded with crappy, buggy bloatware.

Time for MS to start making them "work out of the box".
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Anonymous
July 7, 2012 1:33:54 PM

I have a broken Ipad II "Glass", I haven't replace it yet, waiting for the new tablet...

It will probably replace my tablet and desktop in the mean time !

I'm really excited !!!!

Hoping MS don't miss the boat this time ! Competition is good !
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Anonymous
July 7, 2012 1:41:30 PM

Totally clueless, more and more students are using tablets instead of notebooks.
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Anonymous
July 7, 2012 3:18:57 PM

Alluzeros - Then those are useless students. What are they going to do when they get into the workplace and they need them to actually do something? I understand that the tablet replaces the textbook and the notepad, but writing a term paper on a tablet would be quite painful. I guess for people who don't know how to type anyway and need text-style word completion, it is a good ft??? The tablet can write your term paper for you as long as you give it a couple of letters for each word??? I couldn't imagine being a student and not having a laptop.
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July 7, 2012 6:10:15 PM

wavettoreThose who would want to change this course, but feel paralyzed, because of their inborn Country or Religion, can be part of one new Circle of EqualityOne Equality which is neither financial nor Equality between man and woman but a new system of values sculptured into one new set of ruleswww.wavevolution.org
Just when I thought THG was safe from commies... even JFK warned about you fluckers!
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July 7, 2012 6:14:02 PM

steve_ballmers_boyfriendMicrosoft shouldn't stick with software, they suck at that too. See Vista, Windows ME, Windows 8, Azure, IIS/ASP.NET, SQL Server.They should stick to "lobbying" the US congress and "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish", that is what got them where they are today.http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/c [...] &year=2012http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embra [...] extinguish



Oh yeah they are bad guys and Apple isn't because they spend more money lobbying than Apple. Apple's policies are only "lie through our teeth about the competition, sue everyone who makes anything that looks like what we have, and make our products pretty instead of functional so clueless people will buy them."

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/08/apple-popular-a...
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July 7, 2012 6:20:46 PM

Bought an Acer "mini" desktop and nothing but BSODs !!!

Sent it to their Texas repair facility 6 TIMES and finally gave up and trashed it.

VEVER AGAIN !!!
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July 7, 2012 6:22:52 PM

DjEaZy.... Microsoft Should Stick With Software? a big YES!!! M$ with all of it's apple envy will pud down the whole PC industry...... M$ is starting to lose some key OEM partners, like hp...http://www.tomshardware.com/news/W [...] 16161.html... nokia is considering plan B...http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Nokia- [...] 15751.html... ultrabooks are not doing so well and windows 8 will not help...http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Acer [...] 37971.html... and on'n'on...
They're not losing partners, troll. HP backed out of WinRT (ARM), because they felt they couldn't compete in that arena. They're going to build full x86 Win8 tablets and whatnot though, in the meantime. It's a safer bet for them, x86 is all they've done well - and even then it could be argued that they've made a lot of terrible blunders.

Nokia would be stupid to not have a backup plan. Personally I never thought they should put all their eggs in one basket. I like WP7, but I don't own one. But they've gone on record as saying that WP8 is looking good, too. I'd definitely consider a Nokia device with WP8 on it.

Ultrabooks are just too expensive at this point, for most users. Most people considering an x86 Windows laptop are either in the price-sensitive category, or else want the best bang-for-buck without regard to how slim they are. Ultrabooks are shackled by very specific requirements by Intel. A decent quality ultrabook is quite pricey for what you get.

Now, when you look at more affordable "Ultrathins" that don't follow Intel's strict requirements for dimensions, storage, and processor model, those not-quite-Ultrabooks will sell better. Less expensive CPUs coupled with a mechanical HDD make for a less expensive Ultrathin. But they still won't boost "Ultrabook" sales, so you can still spout nonsense about Ultrabook sales like it matters in the big picture.
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July 7, 2012 6:57:06 PM

didn't acer say dell won't last?

anyways, i'm eyeing the acer s7 ultrabook. Its pretty reasonable in terms of style but i'm waiting for the final hardware spec. really need 8GB RAM and 8 threads with 256GB SSD on 1080p screen for a 13.3inch. really need it for my oracle, VMware, selenium, Komodo Edit and NetBeans (a few other networking/security tools). these things are killing me day by day by dragging this heavy laptop.
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July 7, 2012 6:59:16 PM

Acer has no business giving anyone hardware adivce...
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July 7, 2012 7:35:30 PM

ChieftexasAcer has no business giving anyone hardware adivce...

Acer actually has extensive experience in computer hardware..... Anyone else remember AOpen or "Acer-Open"??? That's Acer's hardware division... They've produced sound cards, modems, video cards, network cards, motherboards, optical drives..... They know hardware...
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July 7, 2012 8:40:39 PM

The trouble is they have been making the hardware cheaper and cheaper.

This has led to poor quality products. I have noticed a significant drop in quality over the past 5 years.

If you pick up a laptop from 10 years ago its amazing the level of build quality, even in the plastics.

I do feel that computers can be cheap....but not that cheap. It's time to set a realistic limit in order to make sure the user has a good experience rather than a shoddy one.
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July 7, 2012 9:23:08 PM

actually i agree with this guy . If MS produces their own tablet , they will only drive other hardware vbendors to andriod OS , as many companies don't care to harbor a competitors OS on thier hardware.
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July 8, 2012 5:16:55 AM

so Acer hasgot afraid of the competition
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July 8, 2012 8:44:56 AM

I can see the sense in making a Nexus-like device. Microsoft is demonstrating how they see their software being used. As long as they don't make it a habit of competing with their OEMs it shouldn't be a problem. The same rules apply to Intel. Intel makes entire PCs, they just can't assemble and sell them or the OEMs would freak out.
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July 8, 2012 9:08:50 AM

Not entirely true... other than Logitech only they make such good peripherals.
Btw, I don't know about its tablets but I have had an Acer laptop for 2.5 years and it's been all right. I 've even taken apart this thing and its engineering is not bad.
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July 8, 2012 1:08:51 PM

jkflipflop98I can see the sense in making a Nexus-like device. Microsoft is demonstrating how they see their software being used. As long as they don't make it a habit of competing with their OEMs it shouldn't be a problem. The same rules apply to Intel. Intel makes entire PCs, they just can't assemble and sell them or the OEMs would freak out.



Yes I think Microsoft creating a proper 'benchmark' standard as to how Windows and the hardware should be assembled and presented would be a superb idea. When folks see it all working as it should then it will be up to the other makers to step up to the mark.

It's time some minimum standards were introduced. Things have got way too lax.
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July 8, 2012 2:55:38 PM

alextheblueJust when I thought THG was safe from commies... even JFK warned about you fluckers!

Marcus52Oh yeah they are bad guys and Apple isn't because they spend more money lobbying than Apple. Apple's policies are only "lie through our teeth about the competition, sue everyone who makes anything that looks like what we have, and make our products pretty instead of functional so clueless people will buy them."http://www.opensecrets.org/news/20 [...] gress.html


You do a diservice to commies. They may be evil, they're not whacko.
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July 8, 2012 3:55:42 PM

MS wants to do what is lacking--having a unified product that isn't susceptible to crap OS/firmware modifications from hardware manufacturers. I'm all for Android as an alternative to Apple mobile products, but the platform is so disjointed, and OEMs are left to do what they want with the version(s) of Android they want to use, and as such stability of systems and apps is iffy at best.

Want students to use tablets exclusively for school tasks? You have to lock-down the hardware platform a bit more.

MS's tablets with the keyboard (not the touch-pad keyboard) would be much more preferable for students than a larger laptop. How many threads are in hardware forums where students ask if they should use a tablet for class because it's so much lighter, even with a dock/keyboard? Only to find out the stability problems with current tablets. This Acer founder needs to be a bit more active in what people want before making blanket statements grasping on the past.
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July 9, 2012 5:17:51 AM

I don't see good things for MS doing this, competing with your own partners is generally bad business. It would have been better to force a licensing agreement with basic standards for OEM sales, and select at least a single OEM as the "golden" standard.

As for Acer and hardware, I guess I'm one of the few that doesn't have a problem with them. They've been more reliable than Toshiba and Dell for me - have both a Aspire1 netbook and a TimelineX laptop. When we actually look at studies (such as SquareTrade's), they're less than 5% away from the top brands in laptop failures in 2yrs which is pretty good despite their lower cost. Of course Squaretrade projects a higher failure at 3yrs, but have yet to provide evidence for those projections. Worth noting is netbooks suck for reliability in general though, so only the laptop results are really notable.

Just my two cents though.
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July 9, 2012 5:38:59 AM

Nothing like good 'ol competition. Frankly, I can see why MS did it. Their OS market share is being threatened by Apple's products and the x86 PC vendors haven't been very competitive so far in that space. They needed a big push from Intel to even get into ultrathins. This launch by MS will drag the x86 PC makers into the battle kicking and screaming.
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July 9, 2012 6:27:26 PM

Never bought Acer products, never will.
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July 9, 2012 8:09:39 PM

Just another company in the stream of disapproval, like HP.
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July 10, 2012 6:10:45 PM

Acer shouldn't complain too much. Windows 8 is likely to be a big fail anyways.
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Anonymous
July 31, 2012 3:00:37 PM

Cool, now maybe they'll support Linux more... ;-D
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