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Tom_Smart   04-03-2006 at 09:39:22 PM

I find this hilarious. Lawerbots! Good job we have Jake patrolling the boards too keep us all safe. Maybe Jake is a Lawerbot.

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AilingBlackLab   04-03-2006 at 10:05:48 PM
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Ahh Tom??... I get the whole lawyerbot thing...
But What The Hell Does That Thread Title Mean?!?!?!

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fishmahn   04-03-2006 at 10:08:16 PM
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Ahh Tom??... I get the whole lawyerbot thing...
But What The Hell Does That Thread Title Mean?!?!?!


I see you've never spent any time "Calling Occupants of Inteplanetary Craft".

Mike.

PS: Its a line from the movie referenced in the article.

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AilingBlackLab   04-03-2006 at 10:16:01 PM
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Oh.....So Sorry...em... I'll just leave now http://mywebpage.netscape.com/AilingBlackLab/run+like+hell.gif

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mpjesse   04-03-2006 at 10:27:48 PM
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Interesting...

I can certainly see World of Warcraft's concern over the issue. This guy is essentially teaching people how to cheat the game and he's making money off of it. It's one thing if you're posting or sharing ways to cheat, but I think it's quite another to profit from it. How is his book any different (on priniple) from a Pyramid Scheme?

On the other hand I certainly see this guy's complaint. He's not really infringing on any copyright laws.

I for one think "Lawyer Bots" are essential to eBay's continued success and survival. It's not feasible for a team of people to spend day and night searching for copyright violations and remove them. There are simply too many people trying to sell illegal things on eBay. eBay is required by law to take all steps necessary to remove copyright violations... and they're doing a damn good job of it.

Imagine an eBay with nothing but pirated DVD's, games, books, software, etc. It would not survive.

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Snorkius   04-03-2006 at 10:36:57 PM
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So you're saying that every single guide book ever sold about any subject should be banned or something? :roll:

And Ebay would do quite well selling pirated stuff, if the laws that made them liable for such things did not exist.

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Tom_Smart   04-03-2006 at 11:09:26 PM
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Imagine an eBay with nothing but pirated DVD's, games, books, software, etc. It would not survive.



I drink regularly in a few of them! :wink:
The markets around here are all full of the stuff, hardly a week goes by without a mention on the news of a £500000.00 - £2000000.00 haul of snide swag by dibble or customs. A guy got nabbed not long ago with 250000 fake viagra tablets. Nearly every pub sells cigarettes over the bar for £3.00 (shop price £5.00), someone simply forgot to pay the import duty when they mistakenly came back from France with a tranny van full of them.

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Snorkius   04-03-2006 at 11:12:50 PM
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That's if you're lucky. If you're not, it was made by dirty (literaly - they don't get the chance to wash often) asian workers in eastern Europe somewhere out of lawn-clippings.

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Tom_Smart   04-03-2006 at 11:28:24 PM
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I hate to break it to you Snorky, but you can get your hands on 50 packs of cigarettes for £75.00.(shop price £250.00) Of course they are the really dodgy Russian clones containing ridicules levels of cyanide. The ones I sel...buy at the local are brought in from France or Spain, I know that for a fact!

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mpjesse   04-03-2006 at 11:29:16 PM
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And Ebay would do quite well selling pirated stuff, if the laws that made them liable for such things did not exist.



Well of course it would! But since such laws exist and AREN'T going to go away, so the point is moot. eBay could not exist if it allowed people to sell pirated works in TODAY's marketplace.

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So you're saying that every single guide book ever sold about any subject should be banned or something?



No. But try to appreciate World of Warcraft's position. If it was as easy as buying a frigin guide in a store (or on eBay) that told everyone how to cheat, what use would the game be to anyone? Have you ever tried to play Counterstrike with cheaters? It's completely retarded. This game makes it's money on subscriptions. How can it do that when there's someone undermining the system AND profiting from it?

I think if this guy was trying to sell a guidebook that was purely based on strategy (that HE came up with), it would be a different story. And if it wasn't a different story, then shame on eBay and World of Warcraft.

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Snorkius   04-03-2006 at 11:45:44 PM
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It wasn't a guide on software exploits and the like. It might be a bit dodgy, sure, but "tricks" and such are not exactly cheating - cheating and exploiting are very rigirously controlled by Blizzard anyway and couldn't really be made into a guide. (My friend got banned for something relatively benign, I don't remeber what exactly, but his server was controlled something strict.)

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fishmahn   04-03-2006 at 11:55:48 PM
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Some of the confusion may be because the article says this:

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He decided to share his wisdom with others by writing a book containing hacks, cracks and cheats as well as tips, techniques and experiences for players playing the game.


but his lawsuit declares this:

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The book contained tips on how to play the game, how to accomplish quests, and how to acquire gold and experience points. (pg 9 lines 8 & 9)



If there are hacks, cracks, and/or cheats, then I agree with WoW. If it is just a 'tips & techniques' book, then I agree with the plaintiff. However I can see WoW's point in several areas, and in those areas he may just be sunk.

Mike.

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Snorkius   04-04-2006 at 12:04:29 AM
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The law should not differentiate things like content, anyway. If he did not break copyright law, he didn't. Undesirably functionality should be Blizzard's worry - you are, after all paying them $15 a month for it - not the governments.

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fishmahn   04-04-2006 at 12:07:23 AM
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The law should not differentiate things like content, anyway. If he did not break copyright law, he didn't. Undesirably functionality should be Blizzard's worry - you are, after all paying them $15 a month for it - not the governments.


Has nothing to do with copyright that I was saying he may be guilty of.

Mike.

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Jake_Barnes   04-04-2006 at 01:28:55 AM
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I find this hilarious. Lawerbots! Good job we have Jake patrolling the boards too keep us all safe. Maybe Jake is a Lawerbot.



You did mean "Lawyer" right? :wink: No, but 1 yr law school, then realized I hated writing briefs (and researching the damn case law). Dropped out. Got an MBA instead. :D

I'm glad you feel safe now ... :roll:

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Tom_Smart   04-04-2006 at 01:34:19 AM
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I hold my hand up to that one. I may have tried to pull the 'It's a typo' line so often used around here. But twice!
***Slaps dimwitted self about***

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_WW_   04-04-2006 at 01:49:43 AM
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I hold my hand up to that one. I may have tried to pull the 'It's a typo' line so often used around here. But twice!
***Slaps dimwitted self about***


I would have believed you...hell I do it all the time.

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Tom_Smart   04-04-2006 at 02:01:54 AM
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I'm just an upright honest decent sort of a bloke who can't tell a lie. Now excuse me I have to take my two foot co[b][/b]ck for a piss.

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