Cingular Phone on ATTWS

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In <f8474099.0407220748.31eba21c@posting.google.com> on 22 Jul 2004 08:48:02
-0700, gdnewbold@gmail.com (Gary) wrote:

>I recently upgraded to the AT&T GSM network. And though I'm very
>pleased with the service I think I want a new phone. I wanted the
>Samsung x426 but it wasn't in so I got the LG4015 instead. It's a good
>phone but I like the screen and size of the Samsing a bit more (both
>are larger). I really wanted a phone with caller ID on the outside but
>didn't want to pay 200 bucks for it. My question is this, can a get a
>Cingular phone, the Motorola V400 for example, and use it on the AT&T
>network since to my understanding the AT&T network is the same as the
>Cingular one? Cingular seems to have a much better collection of
>phones than AT&T does. Anyone know for sure? Thanks.

A locked Cingular phone won't work on ATTWS. An unlocked GSM phone with the
right bands will work on ATTWS. Since ATTWS (soon to be owned by Cingular) is
migrating to GSM 850, it's a good idea to get a phone which includes that
band.

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In <Xns952E8A5BFF5B7trashstanleyreynold@216.196.97.142> on Thu, 22 Jul 2004
13:39:28 -0500, Stanley Reynolds <trash_stanley_reynolds@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Programing a unsupported phone on AT&T could leave you with a less than
>fully working phone.

Not if it's programmed properly.

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Sorry John, my apologies. :-(

Should be: John Navas


"Tom" <tommietp@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:ZSULc.123781$OB3.51526@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> John Navis is correct.
>
> I'm using an unlocked Cingular Nokia 6340i on the ATT GSM network. I just
> put my ATT sim in it and everything works fine.
>
>
> "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> newszULc.3690$54.52136@typhoon.sonic.net...
> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >
> > In <Xns952E8A5BFF5B7trashstanleyreynold@216.196.97.142> on Thu, 22 Jul
> 2004
> > 13:39:28 -0500, Stanley Reynolds <trash_stanley_reynolds@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> >
> > >Programing a unsupported phone on AT&T could leave you with a less than
> > >fully working phone.
> >
> > Not if it's programmed properly.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> > John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
>
>

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In <rmarkoff-99AF1B.15193022072004@news3.west.earthlink.net> on Thu, 22 Jul
2004 20:19:31 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:

>In article <OzULc.3690$54.52136@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> In <Xns952E8A5BFF5B7trashstanleyreynold@216.196.97.142> on Thu, 22 Jul 2004
>> 13:39:28 -0500, Stanley Reynolds <trash_stanley_reynolds@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Programing a unsupported phone on AT&T could leave you with a less than
>> >fully working phone.
>>
>> Not if it's programmed properly.
>
>Doesnt answer the OP question. Can one pop an AT&T SIM into a standard
>unlocked Cingular phone and expect it to fully work?

Yep.

>If not, how does an end user program it.

Simple: Put the SIM in an AT&T phone, and have it programmed OTA.

Do you know anything about GSM? [rhetorical question:]

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In <rmarkoff-E23F2B.17220322072004@news3.west.earthlink.net> on Thu, 22 Jul
2004 22:22:04 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:

>In article <MTVLc.3710$54.51838@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you know anything about GSM? [rhetorical question:]
>
>Works well in my v600.

I didn't think so. Clueless about this too.

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In <rmarkoff-4A9018.18083522072004@news3.west.earthlink.net> on Thu, 22 Jul
2004 23:08:35 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:

>In article <%uXLc.3733$54.52315@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> In <rmarkoff-E23F2B.17220322072004@news3.west.earthlink.net> on Thu, 22 Jul
>> 2004 22:22:04 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <MTVLc.3710$54.51838@typhoon.sonic.net>,
>> > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do you know anything about GSM? [rhetorical question:]
>> >
>> >Works well in my v600.
>>
>> I didn't think so. Clueless about this too.
>
>Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

Don't break your arm hanging yourself.

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In <BD25ED93.1860%sneakerfreak@covad.net> on Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:17:55 -0400,
Sneaker Freak <sneakerfreak@covad.net> wrote:

>On 7/22/04 7:20 PM, in article 7ZXLc.3743$54.52307@typhoon.sonic.net, "John
>Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>You still are a pompus ass, huh?

And you? ;-)

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In <MPG.1b6a6d58477b96ce98975e@news-server.jam.rr.com> on Fri, 23 Jul 2004
06:34:04 GMT, Todd Walker <twalker294@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In article <BD25ED93.1860%sneakerfreak@covad.net>,
>sneakerfreak@covad.net says...
>> On 7/22/04 7:20 PM, in article 7ZXLc.3743$54.52307@typhoon.sonic.net, "John
>> Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In <rmarkoff-4A9018.18083522072004@news3.west.earthlink.net> on Thu, 22 Jul
>> > 2004 23:08:35 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <%uXLc.3733$54.52315@typhoon.sonic.net>,
>> >> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> In <rmarkoff-E23F2B.17220322072004@news3.west.earthlink.net> on Thu, 22 Jul
>> >>> 2004 22:22:04 GMT, "Robert M." <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> In article <MTVLc.3710$54.51838@typhoon.sonic.net>,
>> >>>> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Do you know anything about GSM? [rhetorical question:]
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Works well in my v600.
>> >>>
>> >>> I didn't think so. Clueless about this too.
>> >>
>> >> Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
>> >
>> > Don't break your arm hanging yourself.
>>
>> You still are a pompus ass, huh?
>
>He always has been and always will be. Funny -- I called him exactly the
>same thing about 2 years ago in rec.photo.digital. He claims he put me
>in his killfile after that :-)

Nope. But thanks for playing.

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Steve wrote:
> On 22 Jul 2004 08:48:02 -0700, gdnewbold@gmail.com (Gary) wrote:
>
>> I recently upgraded to the AT&T GSM network. And though I'm very
>> pleased with the service I think I want a new phone. I wanted the
>> Samsung x426 but it wasn't in so I got the LG4015 instead. It's a
>> good phone but I like the screen and size of the Samsing a bit more
>> (both are larger). I really wanted a phone with caller ID on the
>> outside but didn't want to pay 200 bucks for it. My question is
>> this, can a get a Cingular phone, the Motorola V400 for example, and
>> use it on the AT&T network since to my understanding the AT&T
>> network is the same as the Cingular one? Cingular seems to have a
>> much better collection of phones than AT&T does. Anyone know for
>> sure? Thanks.
>
> I'm currently using a 'Cingular' V400 on AT+T. Works fine (with the
> exception of mmode isn't pre-setup and the 'cingular store' menu item
> isn't useful). At the time I got it, Cingular was shipping unlocked
> V400s and V600s -- probably still are...

Thinking about the cingular V600, its cheaper then the ATTws v600 for some
reason,