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Anonymous
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February 3, 2005 7:39:32 PM

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Hello all,

I *used* to know something about computer, back in the dark old ages, but
now after several years of slogging along with a P-366 with a breathtaking
64 MB of RAM and 6 GB HD, my wife has finally given me the nod to pursue a
new system.

While I'm not a programmer or network engineer, I'm decent with computers
dating back to the VIC-20, Apple II, and IBM 8086
and (though it might not be obvious from my current deep-sea anchor) enjoy
having a good machine. However, I'm not a hard-core gamer (though
I do enjoy firing up a DOS game from time to time), nor will I be doing any
video editing on this machine. I do a fair amount in spreadsheet
and database programs and will be storing and editing digital photos, though
not to a professional level. The problem is that while I would
be comfortable picking out the right components and building a machine in
the mid-to-late 1990s, I haven't been keeping up with the
technology.

What I do know is that the 486/100 I built for myself back in 1995
RULED!!!!!1!!!!11!!!

My wife writes e-mail and, from time to time, opens up Microsoft Word.
Her needs are pretty minimal.

Our budget is somewhat small; my wife would love to get a machine for
roughly $400; I've been able to convince her to open things up to
around $850. However, ideally, we'd come down around the midpoint there. So,
not very much.

With the help of some friends in another NG who gave me some baselines, I've
assembled this system with components that look like a good balance between
power and budget from newegg.com. My hope is to dispense with some of the
flashy stuff but to assemble a computer with good bones that I can use until
it's pathetically out of date and I get laughed at by my friends as I am
right now.

Any comments on whether or not this makes sense or if there are any glaring
compatibility issues would be welcome. I am not in need of a monitor,
keyboard, or printer at this time.

---

GIGABYTE "GA-K8NS-939" NVIDIA nForce3 ULTRA Chipset Motherboard For
AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64FX/64 processor
Chipset: nForce3 ULTRA
RAM: 4x DIMM Supports dual channel DDR266/333/400 Max 4GB
Slots: 1x AGP 4X/8X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2x PS/2, 2x COM, 1x LPT, 8x USB2.0(Rear 4), 1x RJ45, Audio
Ports
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices with NV Raid 0/1/0+1
SATA/RAID: 2x SATA with NV Raid 0/1/0+1
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC850 Audio AC'97 Codec
Onboard LAN: Marvell 8001 Gigabit Ethernet
Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813128274 $85.00


This looked like a decent enough 939 motherboard to fit the Athlon 64 - it
seems to have the features that I would need, I imagine.

How is the onboard audio with motherboards? I'm so old-school that I can't
imagine much other than ISA sound cards ...

---

AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
Retail
Specifications:
Model: Athlon 64 3000+
Core: Winchester
Operating Frequency: 1.8GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 512KB
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 90 nm
Socket: Socket 939
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail(with Heatsink and Fan) more info-> N82E16819103501
$165.00



From what I've heard, the Athlon 64 is the hot ticket for bang for the buck
and will be very upgradeable for 64-bit applications. True?

How does the 3000+ Athlon match up with Intel P4 processors? Is it a rough
patch for the P4 3.0?

<shrug>

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PQI POWER Series 184-Pin 1GB DDR PC-3200, Model MD441GUOE - Retail
Specifications:
Manufacturer: PQI
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184-Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 3
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 128M x 64-Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820141198 $155.50 $155.50


At first, I picked two 512MB PC2100 DDRs, but then I thought maybe I should
get one PC3200 DDR - albeit for significantly more money. This is DDR
SDRAM - is that better or worse that just straight DDR? Should I have two
512 MB sticks instead to take advantage of dual-channel? What's the
difference between PC3200 and PC2100? And is this RAM compatible with the
motherboard selected above?

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Samsung 160GB 7200RPM Hard Drive, Model SP1614N, OEM Drive Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 160GB
Average Seek Time: 8.9 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE Ultra ATA133
Features: Fluid Dynamic Bearing Spindle Motor Technology
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Remark: OEM Drive Only more info-> N82E16822152014 $89.00


This one had fairly good reviews - I'd probably prefer a Western Digital or
Maxtor, but Samsung isn't a bad brand, from what I know. It is not an SATA
drive - should I care? It does have an 8MB buffer, which seems pretty good,
and its seek time seems solid. Most importantly, the capacity and the price
seem to be in a good balance.

---

Rosewill GRAY 52X32X52 CDRW Drive, Model RR-521, Retail
Specifications:
Write Speed: 52X CD-R, 32X CD-RW
Read Speed: 52X CD-ROM
Interface: ATAPI / E-IDE
Buffer: 2MB
Features: Buffer under run errors prevention. Adopts Buffer Underrun
Prevention technology. Low power consumption.
Packaging: Full Retail Package (see pictures for details) more info->
N82E16827190011 $20.00


Just a cheap-o CDRW drive as my primary optical to spare the DVD drive the
wear and tear. The speed is good, the reviews were pretty good, and the
price is very right.

---

NEC 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Drive, Beige, Model ND-3520A, OEM
Specifications:
Write Speed: 16X DVD+R, 8X DVD+RW, 4X DVD+R DL, 16X DVD-R, 6X DVD-RW,
48X CD-R, 24X CD-RW
Read Speed: 48X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Interface: ATAPI / E-IDE
Buffer: 2MB
OS Support: Windows XP/ 2000/ ME/ 98SE
Features: High speed writing performance.
Packaging: OEM (see pictures for details) more info-> N82E16827152039
$62.99


I decided to go with more of a name brand for the DL DVD-RW. It's still a
great price, and this is supposed to be one of the better DL burners out
there - although I'll probably do more single-layer burning until DL media
drops a little.

---

SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 7000(RADEON VE) Video Card, 64MB DDR, 64-bit,
TV-Out, 4X AGP -BULK
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 7000(RADEON VE)/166MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 64MB DDR/400MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video+Composite)
Support 3D API: DirectX®, OpenGL®
Cable/Accessories: 1 Adapter, Driver CD
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@60Hz more info->

I understand this is an older card, which doesn't bother me much - I
won't be playing the most up-to-date games - probably year-old stuff and
older. The price seemed right, and I understand Sapphire ATI is pretty
decent. It's not the cheapest card out there, but it's close with a
recognizable name and, hopefully, good compatibility.

---

Linkworld Beige/Blue Midi ATX CASE, Model "B313C02N -
P4" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Case Type: Midi ATX CASE
Color: Beige/Blue
Material: Metal
Drive Bays: 5.25" x 4/0, 3.5" x 2/2 (external/internal)
Expansion Slots: 7
Front Ports: 2xUSB
Cooling System: 1 front fan
Motherboard Compatibility: ATX
Dimensions: 20.5" x 10" x 19.5" more info-> N82E16811164039
$17.00
N82E16814102231 $31.00

Yeah, it's a cheap case. I don't need anything that looks like Alienware - I
just need a box for the parts to sit in. Am I an idiot for thinking this
way, or will I get by just fine with something cheap and chintzy like this?
I'd prefer to save my money for hardware rather than haute couture.

---

Rosewill Value Series 300W Dual Fan Power Supply for Intel and AMD
systems, Model "RV300" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 300W
PFC: No
Efficiency: 70% Min. at full load
Over Voltage Protection: On all outputs
Input Voltage: 115/230V AC
Input Frequency Range: 60/ 50Hz
Input Current: 10A/6A
Output: +3.3V@28A, +5V@30A, -5V@0.3A, +12V@15A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
MTBF: 100K hrs at 25ºC
Approvals: UL, CB, CE, TUV, FCC more info-> N82E16817182001 $13.00


As tempting as it is for me to think a power supply is a power supply is a
power supply, neither do I want an unstable machine. Will this do the job?

---

DCT Factory 03M-OPT-BCLI Optical Mouse PS/2 -RETAIL
Specifications:
Interface: PS/2
Number Of Buttons: 3x Buttons + 1x Wheel
Optical/Ball: Optical
Wireless Technology: N/A
Features: Middle button lights up more info-> N82E16826147001 $5.56


Cheap, generic mouse - our current mouse doesn't have a wheel on it, so what
the heck, right?

---

All told, this adds up to $641.22, which seems pretty good for what's
included. Any thoughts?

TIA for any help.

Cheers,
Chris Hafner
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2005 6:05:57 AM

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:39:32 -0800, "Chris Hafner"
<hafner@peoplepc.com> wrote:

<parts list snipped>

Rosewill 300W is not suited for the system, choose a
name-brand of 350W capacity or preferribly higher.

The Radeon 7000 is not suited to playing year-old games,
it's VERY slow relative to 2 year old midrange cards. Best
bang for the buck right now might be a Radeon 9600 Pro. If
you want to spend less look for a Geforce TI4200 on the
surplus/used market. Otherwise a lower priced card will be
good at little more than 2D, though anything modern is quite
sufficient for 2D use.
February 4, 2005 6:05:58 AM

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Agreed on both counts. Another option on a video card would be the FX 5700.
Definitely get a better quality power supply of 350 W or greater.

DDR stands for Double Data Rate. PC2100 is 133MHz X 2 for an effective speed
of 266MHz (not what you want for your system). PC3200 is 200 MHz X 2 =
400MHz.
CAS 3 for 400 MHz Non-ECC, Unbuffered RAM certainly isn't optimum. I would
look for Crucial or Corsair for CAS 2.5 PC3200.

All this will come at some extra expense, but you will have a better system
for it. IMHO, if I were going to adjust components to meet a budget, I would
consider stepping down a notch or two on the processor (maybe go with the
754 pin AMD64) and up the quality of the other components to compliment the
processor. Otherwise, your processor is turning useless cycles waiting for
the rest of the system to catch up. Quality RAM and clean, sufficient power
are as important as a couple hundred MHz of processor speed.

Fitz
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Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2005 12:26:08 PM

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"Fitz" <akfitz@mtaonline.net> wrote in message
news:11061uk6p8ivoae@corp.supernews.com...
> Agreed on both counts. Another option on a video card would be the FX
5700.
> Definitely get a better quality power supply of 350 W or greater.
>
> DDR stands for Double Data Rate. PC2100 is 133MHz X 2 for an effective
speed
> of 266MHz (not what you want for your system). PC3200 is 200 MHz X 2 =
> 400MHz.
> CAS 3 for 400 MHz Non-ECC, Unbuffered RAM certainly isn't optimum. I would
> look for Crucial or Corsair for CAS 2.5 PC3200.
>
> All this will come at some extra expense, but you will have a better
system
> for it. IMHO, if I were going to adjust components to meet a budget, I
would
> consider stepping down a notch or two on the processor (maybe go with the
> 754 pin AMD64) and up the quality of the other components to compliment
the
> processor. Otherwise, your processor is turning useless cycles waiting for
> the rest of the system to catch up. Quality RAM and clean, sufficient
power
> are as important as a couple hundred MHz of processor speed.

Thanks for the help, guys. If I leave the rest of the system the same and
step up to the following RAM, video card, and power supply, how does this
look?

---

Corsair Value Select Dual Channel Kit 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR
PC-3200 - Retail
Specifications:
Manufacturer: Corsair
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 3
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820145480 $140.00


This still has a latency of 3, not 2.5 - but it is a good brand. Will this
work? It's also dual channel. I couldn't find anything both dual channel and
2.5 latency anywhere close to my price range.

How big a difference does that .5 latency difference make?

---

SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9600PRO Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-Bit,
DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "100562-Green" -OEM BULK
Specifications:
Chipset: ATI Radeon 9600PRO
Memory: 256MB DDR
BUS: AGP 4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + TV-Out (S-Video) + DVI
Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 1.5
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536
Cable/Accessories: S-Video Adapter , Driver CD more info->
N82E16814102407 $107.00


I decided to go with the bang-for-the-buck Radeon 9600 Pro chipset. The
Sapphire card with 256 MB was only a few bucks more than the one with 128
MB, so I figured ... why not? Plus it supports up to DirectX 9.

I'm not a huge gamer - would probably be intermittently playing some older
games, maybe stuff from 2003.

---

Antec P4 ATX12V 400 Watt Power Supply With 2 Fans, Model "SL400" -
Retail
Specifications:
Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 400W
PFC: No
Power Good Signal: 100-500ms
Hold-up Time: < 17ms at Full Load
Efficiency: >=68%
Over Voltage Protection: +5V trip point<+6.5V;+3.3V trip
point<+4.1V;+12V trip point<+15.6V
Overload Protection: Latching Protection+5V @<53A;+3.3V @ <48A;+12V @
<23A
Input Voltage: 115 VAC / 230VAC
Input Frequency Range: 47-63 Hz
Input Current: 10A for 115VAC;5.0A for 230VAC
Output: +3.3V@28A;+5V@38A;-5V@0.5A;+12V@18A;-12V@0.8A;+5VSB@2A more
info-> N82E16817103912 $59.00


I figured Antec was a pretty good brand, and if I needed at least 350 Watts,
400 would do the job even better.

---

Any thoughts? This system is about $100 more expensive, but I can accept
that if I'm no longer limiting the other components on the machine.

Cheers,
Chris Hafner
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2005 12:58:09 PM

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"Chris Hafner" <hafner@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:36hpdoF529f8iU1@individual.net...
> "Fitz" <akfitz@mtaonline.net> wrote in message
> news:11061uk6p8ivoae@corp.supernews.com...
> > Agreed on both counts. Another option on a video card would be the FX
> 5700.
> > Definitely get a better quality power supply of 350 W or greater.
> >
> > DDR stands for Double Data Rate. PC2100 is 133MHz X 2 for an effective
> speed
> > of 266MHz (not what you want for your system). PC3200 is 200 MHz X 2 =
> > 400MHz.
> > CAS 3 for 400 MHz Non-ECC, Unbuffered RAM certainly isn't optimum. I
would
> > look for Crucial or Corsair for CAS 2.5 PC3200.
> >
> > All this will come at some extra expense, but you will have a better
> system
> > for it. IMHO, if I were going to adjust components to meet a budget, I
> would
> > consider stepping down a notch or two on the processor (maybe go with
the
> > 754 pin AMD64) and up the quality of the other components to compliment
> the
> > processor. Otherwise, your processor is turning useless cycles waiting
for
> > the rest of the system to catch up. Quality RAM and clean, sufficient
> power
> > are as important as a couple hundred MHz of processor speed.
>
> Thanks for the help, guys. If I leave the rest of the system the same and
> step up to the following RAM, video card, and power supply, how does this
> look?
>
> ---
>
> Corsair Value Select Dual Channel Kit 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR
> PC-3200 - Retail
> Specifications:
> Manufacturer: Corsair
> Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
> Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
> Error Checking: Non-ECC
> Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
> Cas Latency: 3
> Support Voltage: 2.5V
> Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
> Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
> Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820145480 $140.00
>
>
> This still has a latency of 3, not 2.5 - but it is a good brand. Will this
> work? It's also dual channel. I couldn't find anything both dual channel
and
> 2.5 latency anywhere close to my price range.
>
> How big a difference does that .5 latency difference make?
>
> ---
>
> SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9600PRO Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-Bit,
> DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "100562-Green" -OEM BULK
> Specifications:
> Chipset: ATI Radeon 9600PRO
> Memory: 256MB DDR
> BUS: AGP 4X/8X
> Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + TV-Out (S-Video) + DVI
> Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 1.5
> Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536
> Cable/Accessories: S-Video Adapter , Driver CD more info->
> N82E16814102407 $107.00
>
>
> I decided to go with the bang-for-the-buck Radeon 9600 Pro chipset. The
> Sapphire card with 256 MB was only a few bucks more than the one with 128
> MB, so I figured ... why not? Plus it supports up to DirectX 9.
>
> I'm not a huge gamer - would probably be intermittently playing some older
> games, maybe stuff from 2003.
>
> ---
>
> Antec P4 ATX12V 400 Watt Power Supply With 2 Fans, Model "SL400" -
> Retail
> Specifications:
> Type: ATX
> Maximum Power: 400W
> PFC: No
> Power Good Signal: 100-500ms
> Hold-up Time: < 17ms at Full Load
> Efficiency: >=68%
> Over Voltage Protection: +5V trip point<+6.5V;+3.3V trip
> point<+4.1V;+12V trip point<+15.6V
> Overload Protection: Latching Protection+5V @<53A;+3.3V @ <48A;+12V
@
> <23A
> Input Voltage: 115 VAC / 230VAC
> Input Frequency Range: 47-63 Hz
> Input Current: 10A for 115VAC;5.0A for 230VAC
> Output: +3.3V@28A;+5V@38A;-5V@0.5A;+12V@18A;-12V@0.8A;+5VSB@2A more
> info-> N82E16817103912 $59.00
>
>
> I figured Antec was a pretty good brand, and if I needed at least 350
Watts,
> 400 would do the job even better.
>
> ---
>
> Any thoughts? This system is about $100 more expensive, but I can accept
> that if I'm no longer limiting the other components on the machine.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris Hafner
>


Another quick question - any problems with going EIDE interface on my hard
drive instead of SATA?

Cheers,
Chris Hafner
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2005 2:12:09 PM

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"Chris Hafner" <hafner@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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> Corsair Value Select Dual Channel Kit 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR
> PC-3200 - Retail
> Specifications:
> Manufacturer: Corsair
> Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
> Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
> Error Checking: Non-ECC
> Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
> Cas Latency: 3
> Support Voltage: 2.5V
> Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
> Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
> Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820145480 $140.00
>
>
> This still has a latency of 3, not 2.5 - but it is a good brand. Will this
> work? It's also dual channel. I couldn't find anything both dual channel
and
> 2.5 latency anywhere close to my price range.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?descripti...
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2005 2:12:10 PM

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"jacoby" <jacobykjh@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:kKidnan4k6bPJ57fRVn-2A@comcast.com...
>
> "Chris Hafner" <hafner@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
> news:36hpdoF529f8iU1@individual.net...
>
> > Corsair Value Select Dual Channel Kit 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR
> > PC-3200 - Retail
> > Specifications:
> > Manufacturer: Corsair
> > Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
> > Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
> > Error Checking: Non-ECC
> > Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
> > Cas Latency: 3
> > Support Voltage: 2.5V
> > Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
> > Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
> > Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820145480 $140.00
> >
> >
> > This still has a latency of 3, not 2.5 - but it is a good brand. Will
this
> > work? It's also dual channel. I couldn't find anything both dual channel
> and
> > 2.5 latency anywhere close to my price range.
>
>
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?descripti...

Looks great, thanks! This isn't dual channel, though - or at least if it is,
I'm not seeing it. Is getting 2.5 latency instead of 3.0 worth going away
from dual channel?

Cheers,
Chris Hafner
February 4, 2005 2:12:11 PM

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Dual channel is different than DDR. Dual channel is not a function of the
memory (double data rate [DDR] is). Used to be that dual channel was a
function of the motherboard. Since the AMD 64's memory controller is on the
processor itself, dual channel capability is integral to the processor. You
would not be "going away" from dual channel performance. I'll let others
argue how much advantage dual channel is- I'm running an AMD64 754 pin
system, which isn't dual channel capable.

Personal opinion: the Mushkin is a good way to go if your budget will handle
it. They make a superior product, and back it well. I try to stay away from
any manufactures line of "Value" memory...usually translates to "didn't
quite make the grade". Check out the AMD forums and see how many problems
are memory related. Get as much memory as you can afford, but remember, you
can always add memory at a later date. Whatever you buy, get quality stuff,
even if it means buying 512MB now, and adding another stick later. After
having to change memory on a couple machines because it wouldn't stand up to
demand of the system, I put as much emphasis on quality as quantity when it
comes to RAM. I'm using 2 X 512MB Mushkin Level 1 Black PC3500. My system is
an AMD64 3200+ running "Performance Settings" which mildly overclocks the
system from 200 MHz to 208 MHz for an effective memory speed of 416 MHz.
PC3500 is rated at 433 MHz.

Good choice on the power supply.

Fitz
February 4, 2005 5:32:19 PM

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Chris Hafner wrote:

>
> Another quick question - any problems with going EIDE interface on my hard
> drive instead of SATA?
>
> Cheers,
> Chris Hafner
>
>

You can use either or both.
February 5, 2005 5:50:45 AM

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On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:32:19 -0500, Dee wrote:
> Chris Hafner wrote:
>
>> Another quick question - any problems with going EIDE interface on my hard
>> drive instead of SATA?
>
> You can use either or both.

Can you install XP onto a SATA drive, or do you have to load a driver off
a CD, or what?
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2005 6:10:11 PM

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Depending on SATA controller, you might need to load drivers for it FROM A
FLOPPY using the F6 right at the start of the install program...


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> On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:32:19 -0500, Dee wrote:
> > Chris Hafner wrote:
> >
> >> Another quick question - any problems with going EIDE interface on my
hard
> >> drive instead of SATA?
> >
> > You can use either or both.
>
> Can you install XP onto a SATA drive, or do you have to load a driver off
> a CD, or what?
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