Is it normal for an AMD 3400 64 to run low temps?

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt (More info?)

thats what cool and quite does.......

"Chris J..." <chris@noadresss.com> wrote in message
newsbel215gpd3td534jb42mnr90o1oc9807b@4ax.com...
>
> I've just built a system based on an Asus A8V board,
> AMD 3400 64 bit chip, 2 gigs of RAM, 4 IDE hard drives,
> 2 CD drives, and no unusual hardware.
>
> I installed the motherboard utility (cool&quiet) and it works fine,
> and does adjust the core voltage and frequency, plus regulates the
> speed of three of my fans (CPU, and two of my three case fans).
> The Power supply also has variable speed fans.
>
> I set the shutdown temps 5 degrees C below the standard threshold of
> 75 degrees C (167F), then I looked at the temp monitors and got a
> surprise; it was running at 76 degrees F (24C)! For both MB and CPU!
> After cool&quiet had been running a few minutes, I checked again;
> It was at 72F for the CPU, 69F for the motherboard. The fans are also
> running much slower, and the system is much quieter (all were
> low-noise fans anyway).
>
> I figured I was mistaking F for C, and checked again and it was
> definitely 72F.
>
> I've tried ruuning a few large apps at once, plus a game, and got it
> up to 79F, but that was it.
>
> My old AMD CPU on my old system used to run at around 120F in this
> same case, so I'm amazed that this one runs so cool. Is this normal?
> And more to the point, any chance this is a sign of a problem?
>
> Thanks!
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt (More info?)

Suddenly, without warning, Chris J... exclaimed (3/6/2005 8:24 AM):
> I've just built a system based on an Asus A8V board,
> AMD 3400 64 bit chip, 2 gigs of RAM, 4 IDE hard drives,
> 2 CD drives, and no unusual hardware.

> I set the shutdown temps 5 degrees C below the standard threshold of
> 75 degrees C (167F), then I looked at the temp monitors and got a
> surprise; it was running at 76 degrees F (24C)! For both MB and CPU!
> After cool&quiet had been running a few minutes, I checked again;
> It was at 72F for the CPU, 69F for the motherboard. The fans are also
> running much slower, and the system is much quieter (all were
> low-noise fans anyway).
>
> I figured I was mistaking F for C, and checked again and it was
> definitely 72F.
>
> I've tried ruuning a few large apps at once, plus a game, and got it
> up to 79F, but that was it.
>
> My old AMD CPU on my old system used to run at around 120F in this
> same case, so I'm amazed that this one runs so cool. Is this normal?
> And more to the point, any chance this is a sign of a problem?
>
> Thanks!
>

My system temps dropped 12C when I enabled cool-n-quiet: Mobo and CPU
both running at 33c (was around 45c before I realized I'd never enabled
CnC). My old AMD system used to run at around 52c, so I understand your
amazement...

If your system isn't spontaneously rebooting or experiencing any other
weird behavior, I'd say the readings are accurate. I suppose if you
don't trust what the board is reporting, you could purchase a
third-party external probe, and see what it says...

FYI, I'm running an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ on an Asus K8V Deluxe board, 1GB
RAM, 2 IDE & 1 SATA HD, 1 DVD, 1 CD, 1 floppy and 1 multi-card reader.

If you're using a really good heatsink compound, like Arctic Silver 5,
that may make a difference too... I was using AS3 on my last system.

I'd not complain, and consider that it gives you a fairly large safety
margin if you want to try to overclock your machine

jmc

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt (More info?)

On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 21:41:54 +0000, jmc
<NOnewsgroupsSPAM@NOjodiBODY.HOMEus> wrote:

>Suddenly, without warning, Chris J... exclaimed (3/6/2005 8:24 AM):
>> I've just built a system based on an Asus A8V board,
>> AMD 3400 64 bit chip, 2 gigs of RAM, 4 IDE hard drives,
>> 2 CD drives, and no unusual hardware.
>
>> I set the shutdown temps 5 degrees C below the standard threshold of
>> 75 degrees C (167F), then I looked at the temp monitors and got a
>> surprise; it was running at 76 degrees F (24C)! For both MB and CPU!
>> After cool&quiet had been running a few minutes, I checked again;
>> It was at 72F for the CPU, 69F for the motherboard. The fans are also
>> running much slower, and the system is much quieter (all were
>> low-noise fans anyway).
>>
>> I figured I was mistaking F for C, and checked again and it was
>> definitely 72F.
>>
>> I've tried ruuning a few large apps at once, plus a game, and got it
>> up to 79F, but that was it.
>>
>> My old AMD CPU on my old system used to run at around 120F in this
>> same case, so I'm amazed that this one runs so cool. Is this normal?
>> And more to the point, any chance this is a sign of a problem?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>
>My system temps dropped 12C when I enabled cool-n-quiet: Mobo and CPU
>both running at 33c (was around 45c before I realized I'd never enabled
>CnC). My old AMD system used to run at around 52c, so I understand your
>amazement...

>If your system isn't spontaneously rebooting or experiencing any other
>weird behavior, I'd say the readings are accurate. I suppose if you
>don't trust what the board is reporting, you could purchase a
>third-party external probe, and see what it says...
>
>FYI, I'm running an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ on an Asus K8V Deluxe board, 1GB
>RAM, 2 IDE & 1 SATA HD, 1 DVD, 1 CD, 1 floppy and 1 multi-card reader.

I'm on the same MB, and love it so far.

>If you're using a really good heatsink compound, like Arctic Silver 5,
>that may make a difference too... I was using AS3 on my last system.

It was Arctic Silver, but I'm not sure what variety. I accidently
touched the compound the heat sink came with when I got it out of the
box (duh!) so I decided to use new compound. I went down to the only
place in town that might have such a thing, and asked the repair guys.
They had none for sale, but put a little in a soda bottle cap for me.
All I saw was "Arctic Silver" on the syringe. They charged me $10 for
that tiny bit (barely enough for the one CPU), which I suspect is more
than a whole syringe costs. But, it was either that, drive 300 miles,
or wait for shipping.

I'm also got what I think is a good CPU cooler; Cooler Master Vortex
Dream, which uses curved copper cooling fins and copper heat sink.
It's also variable speed, and quiet.

>I'd not complain, and consider that it gives you a fairly large safety
>margin if you want to try to overclock your machine

Definitely not complaining, as long as it's not a sign of a problem.
Actually, with the built-in overclocking ability the MB has, I might
actually try it just to see if it works. I'd put it right back though;
the most demanding game or app I run is Microsoft Age of Empires
(which has been out for several years) so 3400+ is fast enough for
now.

Thanks!