AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ClawHammer

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i was looking into a AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ClawHammer/Hammer Integrated
into Chip FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor and im gonna get a
atx case with atx mother board will this processor run on that?

im new to building pcs? dont even know if this question makes sence?
 

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im new i dont know nothing as matter of fact im reading a building a pc
for dummies book as we speak lol i know lil bit bout pcs but i never
built one i have no idea what a good brand of mb's there is i have no
idea what pata raid is .... maybe you guys can recommend a book for me
to read to understand this stuff more?
 

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Specification
Mfr Part Number: NF4ST-A9
CPU: Socket 939 For Athlon 64/ 64 FX/ Sempron Processors
Chipset: NVidia nForce4 (FSB 1000) li>
Memory: 4*184-pin DDR(400/333/266) DIMMs Up To 4 GB (Dual Channel)
IDE: 2*ATA 133/100, 4* Serial ATA; ATA & SATA RAID 0,1,0+1
Slots: 1*PCI-Express 16x, 2* PCI-Express, 3*PCI, 1*XGP (Xtreme Graphics
Port)
Audio: 8 Channel Realtek ALC850 AC97
LAN: NVIDIA Gigabit Ethernet
I/O: 10*USB2.0 (6 Front 4rear), 1* Parallel, 1* Serial, 1*RJ-45 Lan,
1*Floppy, 1*SPDIF In/out
Form Factor: ATX


hows that?
 
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"Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote...
> what processor you guys recommend for gaming amd xp or 64

If you're looking for ultimate performance, the Athlon 64 FX series is what you
want.
 

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"Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>i was looking into a AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ClawHammer/Hammer Integrated
> into Chip FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor and im gonna get a
> atx case with atx mother board will this processor run on that?
>
> im new to building pcs? dont even know if this question makes sence?
>

check out that 3500...........sometimes they are not what they
appear.........the 3500 may in fact only be equiv to 2600MHz.
 

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"Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> whatcha mean it aint that good what you recommend??
>

I don't recall saying it aint good...........I have just purchased the
AMD3400 only to find it equates to a 2400............unfortunately I did not
carry out a full review of the product before purchase. This said it's a
fast processor or certainly better than my previous AMD 1200.
 
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"Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>i was looking into a AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ClawHammer/Hammer Integrated
> into Chip FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor

The 512KB models aren't Clawhammers.

>and im gonna get a atx case with atx mother board will this processor run
>on that?

As long as it's a socket 939 motherboard, yes.

> im new to building pcs? dont even know if this question makes sence?
>

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> "Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> whatcha mean it aint that good what you recommend??
>>
>
> I don't recall saying it aint good...........I have just purchased the
> AMD3400 only to find it equates to a 2400............unfortunately I did
> not carry out a full review of the product before purchase. This said it's
> a fast processor or certainly better than my previous AMD 1200.
>

It doesn't equate to a 2400, it runs at 2400Mhz. That's not the same thing.
Your chip is a hell of a lot faster than a 2400Mhz Pentium.

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"Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> what processor you guys recommend for gaming amd xp or 64

Athlon 64.

> ps. the amd xp is the 64bit or is the amd 64 bit?
>

Athlon 64 is 64 and 32bit. Athlon XP is 32bit only.

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"Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> im new i dont know nothing as matter of fact im reading a building a pc
> for dummies book as we speak lol i know lil bit bout pcs but i never
> built one i have no idea what a good brand of mb's there is i have no
> idea what pata raid is .... maybe you guys can recommend a book for me
> to read to understand this stuff more?
>

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0789731738/qid=1119297817/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-9415407-2601444?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Can you use punctuation and capital letters please?

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"Derek Baker" <me@xyzderekbaker.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119296741.452709.143460@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> im new i dont know nothing as matter of fact im reading a building a pc
>> for dummies book as we speak lol i know lil bit bout pcs but i never
>> built one i have no idea what a good brand of mb's there is i have no
>> idea what pata raid is .... maybe you guys can recommend a book for me
>> to read to understand this stuff more?
>>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0789731738/qid=1119297817/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-9415407-2601444?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

You can find out a lot here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

> Can you use punctuation and capital letters please?
>


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"Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> so athlon 64 is both 64 and 32 bit and xp is only 32bit? which i would
> think 64 bit is better for gaming?
>

Yes, though there aren't many 64 bit games at the moment. The Athlon 64 is
faster for 32 bit games due to improvements over the XP, most notably the
integrated memory controller.

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I thought the same thing, but there is a 2.2Ghz 3500+ that is a 512k
clawhammer core.
My guess is they just disable half of the L2 cache.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103514


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> "Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119292937.901077.244770@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>i was looking into a AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ClawHammer/Hammer Integrated
>> into Chip FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor
>
> The 512KB models aren't Clawhammers.
>
>>and im gonna get a atx case with atx mother board will this processor run
>>on that?
>
> As long as it's a socket 939 motherboard, yes.
>
>> im new to building pcs? dont even know if this question makes sence?
>>
>
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"Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> how bout amd 64 fx? that the one to go with?
>

If you can afford it, yes.

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"Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> how bout amd 64 fx? that the one to go with?
>

You're repeating yourself :)

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"Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> whats a good manufacturer? of motherboard?
>

Abit, Asus, MSI . . .

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The 3500+ runs at a clockspeed of 2.2Ghz, but clock speed is not what
determines a processors performance. The 3500+ outperforms a Pentium 4 that
runs at much higher clock speeds in most benchmarks and applications. The
4000+ at 2.4Ghz is faster than a 3.8Ghz P4 in almost every category.

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> "Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119292937.901077.244770@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>i was looking into a AMD Athlon 64 3500+ ClawHammer/Hammer Integrated
>> into Chip FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor and im gonna get a
>> atx case with atx mother board will this processor run on that?
>>
>> im new to building pcs? dont even know if this question makes sence?
>>
>
> check out that 3500...........sometimes they are not what they
> appear.........the 3500 may in fact only be equiv to 2600MHz.
>
>
>
 
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"Chris" <corleoneme1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Specification
> Mfr Part Number: NF4ST-A9
> CPU: Socket 939 For Athlon 64/ 64 FX/ Sempron Processors
> Chipset: NVidia nForce4 (FSB 1000) li>
> Memory: 4*184-pin DDR(400/333/266) DIMMs Up To 4 GB (Dual Channel)
> IDE: 2*ATA 133/100, 4* Serial ATA; ATA & SATA RAID 0,1,0+1
> Slots: 1*PCI-Express 16x, 2* PCI-Express, 3*PCI, 1*XGP (Xtreme Graphics
> Port)
> Audio: 8 Channel Realtek ALC850 AC97
> LAN: NVIDIA Gigabit Ethernet
> I/O: 10*USB2.0 (6 Front 4rear), 1* Parallel, 1* Serial, 1*RJ-45 Lan,
> 1*Floppy, 1*SPDIF In/out
> Form Factor: ATX
>
>
> hows that?
>

Specs seem fine.

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In article <1119298010.760794.7150@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Chris
says...
> so athlon 64 is both 64 and 32 bit and xp is only 32bit? which i would
> think 64 bit is better for gaming?
>
Chris,

Ignore the bad advice of the other two clowns, Ted and Dave, they've
not got a clue.

What you want is a Socket 939 board based on the nForce 4 chipset. The
Abit AN8 SLi is a good board.

Next you want an Athlon64. Contrary to pillocks advice, all Athlon 64s
, Athlon FX and Athlon64 X2 are 64 bit, it is the Semprons that are 32
bit.

As to the speed, depends on what you can afford to be honest. AMD use a
PR number for the speed rather than the clockspeed. Although AMD deny
it, there was supposed to be a correlation between the AMD PR number
and the equivalent speed a P4 would need to run at. So, an Athlon64
3500+ would actually only be running at 2.4GHz but have a performance
equal or better than an equivalent Intel running at 3.5GHz.


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