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Kony, Thank-you for your reply!
kony wrote:
> On 29 Aug 2005 06:48:35 -0700, "Jab" <jabjuice@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Dear Peeps-In-The-Know,
> >
> >I wish to upgrade my current hardware a little but require some advice
> >along the way. I play some games and do a lotta surfin' and lesser
> >tasks.
>
> So essentially, gaming is by far the most demanding task.
> (?)
Yes! Well this is the reason for my enthusiasm to upgrade.
>
> >
> >My current specifications are:
> >AMD 1800+, 512 DDR PC3200 RAM (2x256MB), KT400 Abit Motherboard,
> >GeForce 6600GT AGP.
> >
> >I am thinking of upgrading to a 3400+ CPU, get a new motherboard, and
> >double the RAM.
> >
> >Do modern 3400+ capable motherboards contain AGP slots for my graphics
> >card?
>
> Yes, there are some. If your proposed 3400+ is socket 754,
> be aware that will limit any potential to later upgrade the
> CPU, moreso than socket 939 would, but there are more
> choices in skt 754 boards with AGP slot.
>
I was unsure of these different sockets. See below for my current
Mmtherboard.
> > Is it worth getting PCI-Express?
>
> Yes, IF you also buy a significantly faster (than 6600GT)
> video card for it. Otherwise, the primary bottleneck at the
> (presumed above) most demanding use will still be the video
> card. In other words if you're not willing to spend at
> least $200 on a new video card, you won't get much
> performance benefit from moving to PCI Express.
>
>
I'm happy with the 6600GT and will keep it for a while yet, I guess I
will buy a full system upgrade sometime when the rest of the computer
has started to decompose.
> >
> >About the RAM, I presume the new motherboard will take PC3200, will
> >purchasing another 512MB piece offset the RAM pairing, will I have to
> >dump the 2x256MB and get 2x512MB?
>
> You should be able to run 2 x 256 + 512, but you'll have to
> wait-n-see if that's stable on any particular board.
>
>
> >Although I don't expect to be able to play Doom3 at highest detail I
> >would like it to be a decent improvement on what I currently have (long
> >loading times and occasional juttering).
>
> Long load times should be primarily bound by the hard drive
> performance. Juttering might be lack of memory, video or
> CPU. I'd suspect these moreso than the 6600GT at Doom3
> (since you don't expect highest detail), because relatively
> speaking the 6600GT is the stronger rather than weaker link
> in your system at the moment.
>
>
I hadn't considered HD performance, perhaps this is an avenue worth
considering! The juttering occurs when loading new areas to the ..
<Chug>... memory, persumably due to swapping since 512MB is too low?
> >
> >Any advice is hugely appreciated!
>
> I'd be tempted to buy a mobile Barton (XP2400), overclock it
> some, add 1 - 1GB PC3200 module, and a new hard drive, then
> keep the rest of the system as-is for awhile longer. That
> is, unless you also want to put down the few hundred $ more
> for a significantly faster video card and socket 939 board
> and CPU. You don't mention your power supply but newer
> parts could mean a significant shift in power consumption
> and you "might" need a new PSU too... insufficient info to
> know but worth mentioning.
>
I'll have a look about for this chip, thanks.
My PSU went several months ago and I replaced it with a 450W unit, so
it should be ok. I've hoked out the invoice for my last upgrade and it
lists the motherboard and CPU as follows:
Abit SoA VIA KT400 ATX A L
Athlon XP 2100[plus] 1.73Ghz SoA AMD
I was unable to work out the model name from the Abit website. Can you
hassard a guess at the highest CPU this board would take?
> I suppose ultimately it boils down to total budget for the
> system... if it won't include a new video card >=$200 then
> the best bang for the buck might be keeping the same
> motherboard for the time being, or at least starting out
> with other potential improvements that can be moved to the
> newer config later, like a hard drive.
I'm more interested in gaining the best bang for the buck than going
for an all out new system right now, but I see your point.
I hope to use the graphics card for another 9-12 months, I will
possibly upgrade the system fully then.
Thanks again for your help.
Jonny