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Nokia Had a Touchscreen Phone 7 Years Before the iPhone

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July 19, 2012 11:28:21 PM

So why is there a picture of a Windows 7 phone?
July 19, 2012 11:35:29 PM

iPhone and iPad really were only successful because of the timing, don't credit Apple for innovation. All the hand held devices before WiFi and capacitive touch screens were a joke. Most of the devices struggled to interpret touch inputs because they were too slow. Not to mention that wireless carriers has just started to subsidize contract phones. Any other time and the iPhone would have been as much a joke as all of the other failed devices with proprietary, computer tethered content delivery networks.
July 19, 2012 11:41:59 PM

Most every device that Apple has gotten fame for was developed in a not-so-different form quite some time before Apple made them popular by some other company. I know that Apple has developed--sometimes significant--technologies, but they more market and revolutionize products and devices as opposed to inventing them from scratch. Hell, they straight-up stole quite a few things throughout their lifetime (like most other companies).

I am NOT an Apple lover, but I will honestly credit Apple for revolutionizing the portable media player market. That's the only thing (in my history) where I can see things being crap until they started pushing things. I do believe they've also pushed the phone market similarly (though I think iOS sucks to high-heaven), despite the iPhone being an overrated clump of hardware. Despite computers being their claim to fame, I don't even think they really lent much to improve the computer arena (since they function to isolate themselves and their technologies from everyone else rather than communal sharing/licensing).
July 19, 2012 11:49:27 PM

iPhone and iPad are successful because of the "out of the box" UI design and tightly integrated App store. MS had touch screen phone 10 years ago running Pocket PC, and later Windows Mobile. Unfortunately for Microsoft, the UI that worked so well on desktop just didn't translate to a phone-sized device. iPhone was nothing special. iOS, on the other hand, was revolutionary.
July 19, 2012 11:50:03 PM

I had a Nokia 7710, their 2004 touch screen phone. Nokia proved with that phone that they weren't capable of keeping up with smartphone technologies. Firstly, the phone was unbearably slow and secondly, they cancelled the variant of Symbian OS that ran on it before the phone actually reached customers so despite advertising third party apps, no one wanted to develop for an OS that would never be used ever again.
July 20, 2012 12:32:20 AM

blurr91iPhone and iPad are successful because of the "out of the box" UI design and tightly integrated App store. MS had touch screen phone 10 years ago running Pocket PC, and later Windows Mobile. Unfortunately for Microsoft, the UI that worked so well on desktop just didn't translate to a phone-sized device. iPhone was nothing special. iOS, on the other hand, was revolutionary.

It was successful because it gave the herd a brand, something which they could point out to their friends and feel cool, superior, edgy. Products released by other companies were never made with that in mind so they never quite reached that potential. The majority of people don't care about the UI or how is it to use it is (it's not), all they care is that by owning something Apple they automatically feel integrated into this group.
July 20, 2012 12:40:49 AM

nice trollbait article toms
July 20, 2012 1:14:05 AM

dan4patriotsnice trollbait article toms



Umm, EVERYONE DOES THIS with their new phones. Its not just Apple, hell, I did it with my HTC Touch when I got it. I walked around showing my buds how cool this little phone was, until i broke it purposely because it was slow, unresponsive and couldn't do anything.

You blindly insult iphone folk because YOU have some form of issue deep inside, so what? So what if they like their phone, its easy to use, smooth, can play many games, apps, and does what its supposed to do.. Why is it such a bad thing? Because they're "sheeple"? Anyone who uses a specific brand that YOU disapprove of will be considered sheeple.

If you liked Apple products and saw someone using Android, you'd call them a sheep of google.

You're just the type that acts like a little child and teases the other child because he likes the red sucker instead of the blue sucker.

Grow up child.
July 20, 2012 1:14:33 AM

xerrozIt was successful because it gave the herd a brand, something which they could point out to their friends and feel cool, superior, edgy. Products released by other companies were never made with that in mind so they never quite reached that potential. The majority of people don't care about the UI or how is it to use it is (it's not), all they care is that by owning something Apple they automatically feel integrated into this group.


I meant to quote this one, not Dan's.
July 20, 2012 1:45:55 AM

"...all they care is that by owning something Apple..." Apple was not a brand name before, so your point is not valid here. They make a name of themselves because of their products. Just like every other brands, there are haters and followers.
July 20, 2012 2:39:02 AM

I wouldn't be bragging that we invented these products but were too stupid to get them to market, let alone be successful.
July 20, 2012 2:41:56 AM

As for first tablets Arches was way ahead.
July 20, 2012 2:54:51 AM

Edit^ Archos. I had one early in 2005. I also built one about a year before apple announced the iPad. Although it wasn't nearly as refined as there iPad it sure was pretty. Unfortunately it used a resistive touchscreen and an acquired 11" laptop. I built the case out of thin pieces of exotic birds eye maple and used thin li-PO batteries designed for model rocket launchers. It even ran windows 7. I know I know, Pics or it didn't happen! I wish I still had the build and final pics.
July 20, 2012 2:55:56 AM

Look, nobody gave a shit about smartphones or tablets until apple came along and out out their product... If Nokia had developed it, why not market it? Apple is just lucky.... With their timings.....

That beng said, I love my iPad and there is no tablet tha can compete with it....
July 20, 2012 3:16:43 AM

Nokia's latest financial results speak for themselves.
July 20, 2012 3:20:03 AM

Ok . I have all 3 IPads, both galaxy 10.1 tabs, 2 iPhone 3Gs, 1 4g, many different iPods from nano to 3g touch to classic, 1 asus transformer, an Archos 7, a Toshiba thrive, and a Samsung series 7 slate. My favorite is the Toshiba Thrive. Next to that is the series 7 slate. The thrive is a far better machine than the iPad. Yes the iPad has a delicious screen, super thin and slightly faster price processor BUT the thrive makes up for these shortcomings by giving me access to a full size SD card slot(I have a 128GB card installed) it has full sized USB port and full sized hdmi. With root I can connect an external Blu-Ray or DVD drive. I am running Ubuntu on it as well as a custom Android. I can plug up external hdd and USB thumb drives. Then I can swap out batteries if I'm not where I can charge up. On too of all that I'm not restricted and controlled by apple. I can understand why the not so techy folks or the LAZY techy folks like the apple crapple but cmon folks they are to restrictive and cost WAY to much for what they provide. Then there is the business side ....... Arm based tablets are NOT the way to go. You need a slate for that.
July 20, 2012 3:22:10 AM

Back on topic Nokia should have done better.
July 20, 2012 3:54:39 AM

I love my ipod, I will more than likely always have an ipod, but that is where my love for apple ends. The simple UI does not entice me to spend extra money on their products that are not more technologically advanced than a dell laptop that is a thousand dollars less than a macbook pro with similar specs. I understand why millions of people love them, they are simple to use, although, when i say that people think that i am insulting their intelligence. I simply decided to choose a side and i chose PC's.
July 20, 2012 4:36:37 AM

boixwunderI love my ipod, I will more than likely always have an ipod, but that is where my love for apple ends. The simple UI does not entice me to spend extra money on their products that are not more technologically advanced than a dell laptop that is a thousand dollars less than a macbook pro with similar specs. I understand why millions of people love them, they are simple to use, although, when i say that people think that i am insulting their intelligence. I simply decided to choose a side and i chose PC's.

Crapple fans have insulted their own intelligence by purchasing the over prices piece of technology that most would agree is is less advanced than an HP or dell. The best thing they have going for them is the casings they use for construction.this still shouldn't call for the price tag.
July 20, 2012 6:31:04 AM

i am not an ifag or an apple fanboys, but the rule of successful marketing is who sells first, not who develop first.
July 20, 2012 7:25:30 AM

cybersansi am not an ifag or an apple fanboys, but the rule of successful marketing is who sells first, not who develop first.

It's not that simple. Slate and Windows phones came way before ipad and iphones, and they were stinkers because the technology wasn't ready. Tech history is littered with devices that were ahead of their times.

Even if Nokia released their touchscreen device early, it might have been clunky and expensive.
July 20, 2012 7:30:01 AM

In case YOU guys don't know, the US Govt. granted Apple the patent for the on-screen GUI for a cellphone. Wait... Windows Phone/CE devices many many years ago had on-screen keyboards!

Prior to iPhone/iPad - there were the Palm devices and even the Apple Newton (Canceled by Jobs).

Apple has NO business with such a patent. GUI phone devices were in use many many years before the iPhone.
July 20, 2012 9:28:28 AM

Only technology morons belive that touchscreen phones began with the iPhone. The same morons tend to become Applejailed iCrap fanatics, not too different from religious zealots.
July 20, 2012 9:38:23 AM

"No way! Steve Jobs invented life!"

If you read the mainstream US media you might believe that. The honest truth is that Steve Jobs was just a spineless con-artist and backroom peddler. That is what he trully excelled at.
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July 20, 2012 10:12:31 AM

If it wasn't for Steve Jobs and Apple, you ingrates would all still be using Blackberries and Palm. You guys are in such loser denial, it's unbelievable. The reason no one knows or cares about Nokia's crap touch phone is because Apple was the first do it correctly, which is why every single vendor has copied its approach since. So what if Nokia had some half-assed product out first? Clearly no one bought it or remembered it, because it sucked.


Apple won. Your horse lost. Deal with it. Crying and making lame "apple patent / sue" jokes is the epitome of sour grapes.
July 20, 2012 12:32:44 PM

Dear Mr. Douglas Perry, writer for Tom's Hardware...

7 years before the iPhone? Really? Because the iPhone came out in 2007 (even the article that you posted as source says so, if you even bothered to read it), so if Nokia had a prototype in 2002... then it's 5 years, not 7. You're not very good at math, are you, Mr. Perry?

And if you were to compare when Apple had a prototype (to make it a fair comparison), it'd be even less than 5. But anyway... Nokia may have had such a phone, but people demanded buttons at that time and they still did, well after the iPhone launched. It's why the BlackBerry was so successful. Moar buttenz!!1
July 20, 2012 12:58:54 PM

Nokia hasn't a decent touch screen, and decent OS for a smartphone, until the Lumia release. The 5800 and X6 was terrible UI experience, way behind the iPhone, or Samsung or HTC. Perhaps Nokia has a "prototipe" some years ago... but seriously anybody can think than Nokia was ready to launch a "touch-screen smartphone" like machine in 2002, if they can't really do in a competitive way until 2010-2011? :p 
July 20, 2012 12:58:55 PM

Nokia hasn't a decent touch screen, and decent OS for a smartphone, until the Lumia release. The 5800 and X6 was terrible UI experience, way behind the iPhone, or Samsung or HTC. Perhaps Nokia has a "prototipe" some years ago... but seriously anybody can think than Nokia was ready to launch a "touch-screen smartphone" like machine in 2002, if they can't really do in a competitive way until 2010-2011? :p 
July 20, 2012 1:15:04 PM

fb39ca4So why is there a picture of a Windows 7 phone?

Quote:
Nokia Had a Touchscreen Phone 7 Years Before the iPhone

Phone 7... Windows Phone 7 ?
July 20, 2012 2:14:55 PM

Yes,
the merit goes to Apple, but probably is the wrong merit.
Apple deserves the merit of waiting the proper time to bring it to the masses: maturity of all the technologies involved and "market preparation", but not really the merit that everyone is giving as
visionary.
Lot of people realised beore apple of what technology was possible in near future at every moment (in fact, not only mobile gadgets), Jobs realised of how and why people would use that technology... Think its talents had to do with sociology more than technology...
The last, but not least merit is that it succeeded creating and marketing the phone.
July 20, 2012 4:23:04 PM

motheninjaThat beng said, I love my iPad and there is no tablet tha can compete with it....



Ha ha ha oh wow. Keep sippin' that kool-aid.
July 21, 2012 12:13:46 PM

Spanky DeluxeI had a Nokia 7710, their 2004 touch screen phone. Nokia proved with that phone that they weren't capable of keeping up with smartphone technologies. Firstly, the phone was unbearably slow and secondly, they cancelled the variant of Symbian OS that ran on it before the phone actually reached customers so despite advertising third party apps, no one wanted to develop for an OS that would never be used ever again.

AND
I'm using that exactly phone even today, yes, it's slow...
July 23, 2012 4:41:35 PM

Doesn't really matter now does it. Smart phones existed before the iPhone. Apple just made them "cooler" and more popular.
July 23, 2012 4:42:42 PM

CyberAngel said:
I'm still using that Nokia 7710 as my major phone every single day

Can I ask why?
July 25, 2012 6:38:34 AM

aggroboyIt's not that simple. Slate and Windows phones came way before ipad and iphones, and they were stinkers because the technology wasn't ready. Tech history is littered with devices that were ahead of their times.Even if Nokia released their touchscreen device early, it might have been clunky and expensive.


this is one of the things i really hate about the tech market. a lot of successful products arent the best, nor the first, nor the most innovative. they were just at the right place at the right time.
July 25, 2013 9:43:44 AM

GreaseMonkey_62 said:
CyberAngel said:
I'm still using that Nokia 7710 as my major phone every single day

Can I ask why?


I can work with it with my gloves on...
August 6, 2013 5:12:09 PM

OK...now I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 Active
- and it can be used with gloves on
Plus a Nokia Lumia 920
- which also can be used with gloves on
My Nokia 7710 can retire now...
!