Paul Ryan for VP
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musical marv
August 12, 2012 3:07:54 AM
Oldmangamer_73
August 13, 2012 12:38:28 PM
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wanamingo
August 13, 2012 1:47:00 PM
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In picking Ryan, Romney is, in a way, emulating the vice presidential decision made by the man who beat him for the 2008 GOP nomination: John McCain.Ryan, like Sarah Palin, is a pick designed not necessarily to appeal to independents or Democrats, but rather to excite the party’s base. Palin’s selection did that for McCain, at least for a time, but her candidacy fizzled after a number of slip-ups, including her now-infamous interview with Katie Couric. Presumably, Ryan won’t make the same sorts of mistakes that Palin made, and it’s helpful to him that he’s much more familiar with the national press, which regards him as an intellectual. (They certainly didn’t feel that way about Palin.) Also, McCain’s base strategy couldn’t succeed in a year when the Republican Party was so damaged, when the economy was collapsing and when Barack Obama was running a historic, exciting candidacy. But a base strategy might work this year because a motivated GOP base, despite its weaknesses with minority voters, might be able to outnumber the Democratic base in this election, much like it did in 2004.
It does not appear that Romney has his base fully behind him.
http://themoderatevoice.com/155801/quote-of-the-day-rom...
chunkymonster
August 13, 2012 1:47:56 PM
johnsonma
August 13, 2012 3:38:03 PM
It was easily the best pick Romney could of made IMO. Even though I didn't agree with with his budget plan.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/...
Oldmangamer_73
August 13, 2012 4:56:10 PM
johnsonma
August 13, 2012 5:17:41 PM
Oldmangamer_73 said:
Wow, it's only been 48 hours and we already know more about Paul Ryan, his wife, his children, and all their past histories than we know from 4 years of reporting in the media on Obama.The real questions are, has he released his long form birth certificate, tax records for his entire life and his college transcripts?
wanamingo
August 13, 2012 5:20:28 PM
Oldmangamer_73
August 13, 2012 5:24:13 PM
Watch Ryan's 2010 video on picking apart ObamaCare. He lays out the faulty math, the budget lies, etc. He doesn't even have to stretch to make it happen. He literally points to one expense and cites how it counted twice, and how the money is shifted around to balance out. Not to mention the 10 years of steady tax increases to pay for it.
Based on where we stand today, if everything remained status quo, ObamaCare adds 2.3 trillion debt in 6 years, but will take 10 years to pay for those 6.
Based on where we stand today, if everything remained status quo, ObamaCare adds 2.3 trillion debt in 6 years, but will take 10 years to pay for those 6.
musical marv
August 14, 2012 3:18:18 AM
dogman_1234
August 14, 2012 5:01:22 AM
Oldmangamer_73
August 14, 2012 12:26:16 PM
chunkymonster
August 14, 2012 12:52:13 PM
musical marv said:
No Ryan only wants to release 2 years of tax reports like the jerk Romney.Oldmangamer_73 said:
Aren't you more interested in his policy decisions and what he wants to do? You know, ideas and stuff?
You must be an "old man" because your friggin senile to think libs can actually form an informed and factual opinion on the issues let alone have a reasoned objective discussion about them. If they were able, do you think the first response was about Paul Ryan's taxes...
You have more a chance to get a coherent (let alone intelligent) answer out of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz!
wanamingo
August 14, 2012 1:19:14 PM
There is no reason to even debate Paul Ryan's plan, Romney has rejected it and its not even solvent.
He picked Ryan using the same failed logic used to pick Palin, they just want the base conservatives all worked up. Which I think will fail them..... The real advantages the Ryan brings is he is a good politician, Palin couldn't even hold it together through an interview (A Hilarious failure of an interview).
I think he is too conservative though... The people who will be attracted to Mitt and Ryan were already going to be voting for them, and people who were on the liberal republican side will now be forced to vote for Obama simply by the fact he isnt a hardlined conservative.
They have backed themselves into a corner and the only way out is on the backs of bible thumping, gun toting, moral crusading conservatives.
Your little jabs are getting real old chunky......
He picked Ryan using the same failed logic used to pick Palin, they just want the base conservatives all worked up. Which I think will fail them..... The real advantages the Ryan brings is he is a good politician, Palin couldn't even hold it together through an interview (A Hilarious failure of an interview).
I think he is too conservative though... The people who will be attracted to Mitt and Ryan were already going to be voting for them, and people who were on the liberal republican side will now be forced to vote for Obama simply by the fact he isnt a hardlined conservative.
They have backed themselves into a corner and the only way out is on the backs of bible thumping, gun toting, moral crusading conservatives.
Your little jabs are getting real old chunky......
Oldmangamer_73
August 14, 2012 1:25:01 PM
"They have backed themselves into a corner and the only way out is on the backs of bible thumping, gun toting, moral crusading conservatives."
It's a good thing we out number liberals 3 to 1. Now, all of us bible thumping, gun toting, bitter clingers just need to show up on Nov. 6 and victory is guaranteed.
It's a good thing we out number liberals 3 to 1. Now, all of us bible thumping, gun toting, bitter clingers just need to show up on Nov. 6 and victory is guaranteed.
johnsonma
August 14, 2012 2:41:29 PM
chunkymonster said:
WHAT?!?!? You want the libs on this forum to have a debate about the issues.
You must be an "old man" because your friggin senile to think libs can actually form an informed and factual opinion on the issues let alone have a reasoned objective discussion about them. If they were able, do you think the first response was about Paul Ryan's taxes...
You have more a chance to get a coherent (let alone intelligent) answer out of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz!
How can you gripe about libs not talking about the issues when you have an entire post bashing them? You even used OMG as a scapegoat to voice your hypocrisy.
From what I have been reading Romney's camp thinks they can win by going purely conservative and hoping that their base of supporters will be enough to win. If the turnout is as high as it was in the last election they will lose. If it is a lot lower then they have a chance.
dogman_1234
August 14, 2012 3:55:46 PM
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