Fact the World's Oil Supply is at a 8 year High.
Why don't you post a link to your source?
Your talking price of oil not supply or usage right?
I'd love to be high for 8 years.
I wouldn't doubt it. As the price of crude climbs higher, there’s more incentive for those, that otherwise would not, to ramp up their own production.
[EDIT: correctly identified Thomas Friedman as the source]
Thomas Friedman said last week that the sooner the price of oil hits $100 pb the sooner it falls again: his hypothesis being that high price would contribute to lower demand, which in turn would lower the price of gas-- well, he was half right. The price of oil only contributes just above 40% to the price of gas AND, as stated above; higher price of oil entices more producers, which contributes more supply, which affects elasticity of demand driving price downward.
Economics is fun!
I find that, on the whole, economics education in the United States is woefully inadequate.
You can produce all the oil you want, but if you can't refine it...
I was talking about oil. . . 8)
Besides, demand is what is driving up the price, anyway. Nigeria is offline: that's 3% of the world's production right there. . . supply will drive it back down.
My point was, the amount of oil isn't the problem, but how much we can
refine...but I think we've been here before.
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Maybe, but not for long.
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That holds for the majority of topics in the other. Don't let that stop you, though
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Hmm... well we've just been warned that fuel will reach $1.50 here a litre next week (absolute record high).
This will sound ridiculous, but I cant afford to drive my car at those type of prices.
An old mate offered me $1000 for my old banger and the V8 really has seen its day; reluctantly, I will have to let her go.
And you felt the urge to tell us this? Sigh.....
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No Rob, it is important information ... no one here had noticed
A public service type thing maybe ...
Sheesh, cheap stuff. It's all (usually well) over €1 a litre (not a gallon, and a euro is about $1.24 remember). Still the underlying reason for this increase in price is the increase in demand from a more prosperous China. So essentially, apart from bumps around Iran and so on, most of the price rise in oil is down the more output from China, which leads to lower prices in other areas. This is where economics gets really fun...
In theory, you're saying nuke Iran, let the fallout spread over into China and for a short time, oil will be cheap again?
Cool.
Wow. Well, it gladdens me to know that I'm not the only chap getting proverbially focked at the bowser.
China is roaring along at an unbelieveable pace, thats for sure. Yep, interesting times ahead for the world's economies.
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interestingly i saw a news article (done by CNN) saying China was using 1/7th the fuel that the US was using. and per capita that was a minor fraction.
the US uses 48% of the worlds oil. yet has 1/4 the people than china.
SUV's IMO are the blame.
also i have heard that oil production and availablility is no different then before, the petrol prices are artificially high due to people being afrid it will not last, and thus bidding more for it.
the higher the price the better it is IMO. it will make alternatives more viable. i see nothing bad that can come from it.
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Mate, thats all good and well, but the US market will change as circumstances do. Those gas guzzlers you alluded to wont be affordable for the average family for much longer and the US market will inevitably correct itself.
It will be painful for some, thats for sure, but I see big changes on the horizon for all developed countries when it comes to their energy requirements.
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You never cease to amaze me in how your entrenched in the US is so evil with fuel & SUVs.....
Well I'll tell you one thing flat out.... The US will solve it & it won't be through the the stuff you've bought into it with you corner of the world.... H
Yes...we are the evil empire! Deal with it.
Fortunately, being in that position means we only have to hate those that hate us and need no other reason.
But the rest of the world has to think up reasons to hate us for.
I for one, if I had time, would pity them. But I am much too busy over-consumerizing to give a shyte.
I've got to agree with you!!!!
When this gets solved.... It will come from the US & nowhere else..... Whatever it is, it isn't here now.... But when we do it, the rest of the world will follow, as has always been the case..... Freedom allows us to do it!!!! What else can I say????
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Not to be disrespectful to you and RC, but I do believe that to be a rather excessive generalization.
I've only ever known 4 people who've heavily and consistently criticized the US with AT being one and 3 others from my Politics degree, and Griffith Uni - my uni - is considered centre-left in everything so it was fairly surprising that only 3 of my classmates out of 85 would be anti-US, you know.
I think most in the developed world respect and admire the US for all the good that it does in the world. I've just finished reading a Time article on Gates and his philanthropic work and he's only the tip of the iceberg for money donated by US citizens etc..
Don't you have an interview in 1-2 minutes?
Yep, just got home mate.
I'm a trifle nervous waiting for this call.
Remember my advice.
What? Picture myself having sex with a hot porno star if I get nervous.
Yeah mate, love the advice.
That could also work.
What was your real advice again?
If it doesn't go well, rip out the cord and say you had phone troubles.
Digger, I just aced it mate. The dude coudnt have been more impressed. So much so that he stopped the questions half-way through and said that I was definitely what they were looking for. The starting salary aint as crash hot as I'd have liked but the bonus scheme sounds cool and I'm off to the next step which is on the 9th of May for a half-day meet-and-greet type gig. The dude has allowed me to by-pass a first day of testing as I've got ample experience.
I feel happy you know. Bloody happy actually. Its a minor win for me.
I'm off to pick up a 6 pack and then come back for some Skype and some chat and stuff.
Hey good work mate. I've got to wrap up some stuff here and see some people after work. I should be done in a couple of hours.
Congratulations!
You know I haven't been around much lately so I haven't heard about your interview until now. What is the job that your newly hired (almost) to do?
Thanks guys. I appreciate it.
Its insurance sales for a major bank here, Russ. Not a dream job but I was running low on ideas and options and this mob pay better than most. I view it as a starting point. The insurance sales will be a blend too, high-end corporate sales as well as domestic insurance. They'll start me with the latter and if I prove my worth then I'm up into the bigger stuff. Piece of cake!
Starting out fresh again for a new company and I'm pumped up for it.
Will tell you a bit more on Skype once I get this focking headset set-up.
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Dead on mate!
Cheers mate! Onto my 3rd brew and having a good chat to Russ on Skype.
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Well you see...I have to generalize because it is way beyond me to list everyone that hates us by name. Consider it as one of those "if the shoe fits" comments. Otherwise ignore it.
Oh yea, good luck on that interview in May. Just be sure to trim your fingernails and make sure there ain't a booger hanging outta your nose...
Thanks W's. Mate, all is good.
The United States of America has tons more friends than enemies. No doubt about it. I understand what you're saying.
A company I interviewed with more than four weeks ago made me an offer Tuesday last (25th). Less money than I'd like, but the cost of living there is very, very low (houses rent for around $500-550 / month). And its more than I'm making now.
New job, new baby the very next day. . .
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Very 8) , mate. Full congrats to you and yours Dwells..
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was only quoting your news article.
it was not an attack on the US, but a defence of China. yes china is increasing fuel usage, but its not the biggest reason for fuel use, and its using hardly any fuel per capita, even less than my country who uses more than most per capita.
The CNN article started by saying it was china increasing use, then went on to quote all the stats for the US usage, saying that when chinas usage reaches that of the US, it will have 900 million more cars on the road.
if SUV's (a luxury, not a necessity, nor even practical) were pulled off the roads, then chinas increased usage would be canceled out instantly and probably then some. i have always been against SUV's (not against farmers using trucks, but against inner city shopers using them)
i also don't see any problem with high fuel prices, as Bomber says, it will correct itself. those who made the decision to buy an SUV will suffer the most from it, but in the long term that is no great issue, they are the people most likely to be able to afford it.
Are high fuel prices really a huge issue when a sollution already exisits? i.e. smaller cars?
behaviour is a larger sollution than technology, the faith in technology fixing everything is very misplaced. yes it is one method of fixing things, but ultimately its short lived.
heck even all the people over here who drive around SUV's are bloody idiots. its an attack not on the US, but on the mindset of those who don't give a crap, and those people exist wherever a SUV stockist exists, if people don't care, and then pay the price, why should anyone be sympathetic?
p.s. US fuel prices are lower than any country i have heard of to date (except oil producing countries)
enjoy it while it lasts, your prices are about what I was paying 5 years ago. it is most certainly not the end of the world.
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ironically alot of the enemies in the USA are living in said states. sad really.
Yeah, Puks. There's a few mate, for sure. I saw the big protests in New York, I think it was, about the war and that.
Its interesting, I think a good many people who are now anti-war are that way inclined because of the mismanagement there combined with a distaste for Bush; but I still think there's a strong nationalistic belief in what the US stands for and what it represents to the rest of the world, you know.
Mate, its getting trickier by the day. I cant see them bringing anybody home soon, can you?
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Unfortunately, a lot of countries will likely be sending a whole pile more out very soon.
This time i think there is a lot more support for it, as there is an enemy who really DOES have some capabilities.
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At, mate, are you joking? There's not one country thats not involved that sees it self actually wanting to get involved. Not one.
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Iran? Sure. Focking crazy bugger that Pres of theres is.
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So when we were growing up, and we would go camping two or three times a week, mom & dad and the three kids and a boat and tent and gear and food for a week, and had the Jeep Grand Waggoneer loaded to the gills, what smaller car could we have used?
My wife and I have two kids, when we go camping for a weekend, we fill the Sebring. If someone has three or four kids, and has to pull a boat, and likes to go camping and such, what vehicle would you recommend?
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At, mate, are you joking? There's not one country thats not involved that sees it self actually wanting to get involved. Not one.
i know they don't want to be involved, thats why its unfortunate. i'm saying its not really a choice, and that people are just wanting their loved ones home already.
from someones POV every war is a huge pain in the butt.
and yeah Iran are being crazy buggers, cunning crazy buggers to be choosing this time to be doing what they want.
i think they did it on purpose when people want their loved ones home and are somewhat sick of war.
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