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Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
August 20, 2004 4:42:53 PM

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I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400, with
another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP.
Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and a
very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce chipset
board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no info
on beyond it uses mcp and spp.

I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm chip)
but hopefully this wont be a terminal
problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset I'm
most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives etc
would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of this
job has any bearing then I'm screwed!

any thoughts on these issues much appreciated

cheers

Maurice

More about : nvidia mainboard swap

August 20, 2004 4:42:54 PM

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after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a repair install
from the console


"maurice" <mauriceDELETEALLCAPS@WWWwidebaymultimedia.com> wrote in
message news:412564a3$0$25143$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte
ga7n400, with
> another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of
XP.
> Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget
(and a
> very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce
chipset
> board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find
no info
> on beyond it uses mcp and spp.
>
> I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia
soundstorm chip)
> but hopefully this wont be a terminal
> problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce
chipset I'm
> most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide
drives etc
> would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history
of this
> job has any bearing then I'm screwed!
>
> any thoughts on these issues much appreciated
>
> cheers
>
> Maurice
>
>
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
August 21, 2004 3:16:53 AM

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Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD,
including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the
harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS.

--
DaveW



"maurice" <mauriceDELETEALLCAPS@WWWwidebaymultimedia.com> wrote in message
news:412564a3$0$25143$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400, with
> another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP.
> Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and a
> very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce
chipset
> board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no info
> on beyond it uses mcp and spp.
>
> I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm
chip)
> but hopefully this wont be a terminal
> problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset
I'm
> most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives etc
> would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of
this
> job has any bearing then I'm screwed!
>
> any thoughts on these issues much appreciated
>
> cheers
>
> Maurice
>
>
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Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
August 21, 2004 3:16:54 AM

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DaveW wrote:

> Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD,
> including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the
> harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS.
>

I do upgrade/repair swaps of comPLETEly different motherboards all the time
with no problems whatsoever.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
August 21, 2004 3:01:29 PM

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Ok, two very different opinions here,

JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a repair
install
from the console"

DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME
MOTHERBOARD,
including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the
harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS"

Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical chipset
boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the repair
console wont work?

I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom software
installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I have to
reinstall the OS.

Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios?

thanks


> "maurice" <mauriceDELETEALLCAPS@WWWwidebaymultimedia.com> wrote in message
> news:412564a3$0$25143$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400,
with
> > another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP.
> > Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and
a
> > very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce
> chipset
> > board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no
info
> > on beyond it uses mcp and spp.
> >
> > I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm
> chip)
> > but hopefully this wont be a terminal
> > problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset
> I'm
> > most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives
etc
> > would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of
> this
> > job has any bearing then I'm screwed!
> >
> > any thoughts on these issues much appreciated
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Maurice
> >
> >
>
>
August 21, 2004 8:58:03 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

"maurice" <mauriceDELETEALLCAPS@WWWwidebaymultimedia.com> wrote in message
news:41269e62$0$11963$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Ok, two very different opinions here,
>
> JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a repair
> install
> from the console"
>
> DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME
> MOTHERBOARD,
> including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the
> harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS"
>
> Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical chipset
> boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the repair
> console wont work?
>
> I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom software
> installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I have to
> reinstall the OS.
>
> Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios?
>

I had to do much the same recently when an Asus A7N8X stopped working on a
Saturday evening - I had an Abit NF7 available, so swapped the components
over and rebooted, started Windows (XP Home) in Safe Mode, went to Device
Manager, removed everything it would allow, ignoring the requests to reboot
until I'd finished, then rebooted properly and allowed Windows to re-detect
all it needed. I don't recall it asking for the installation disk, it just
sorted itself out and has been fine since (about 3/4 weeks). I did have to
re-activate Windows due to the hardware changes but that wasn't a problem.

HTH
Martin
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
August 22, 2004 6:35:55 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

maurice wrote:
> Ok, two very different opinions here,
>
> JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a repair
> install
> from the console"
>

You dont want to go into the console. Just put the hardware together,
and boot from the XP cdrom. Keep going through the stages as if you were
going to do a new install. Eventually you'll be asked if you want to
reinstall or repair (not the same as console), and this is what you
want. If you miss it, do NOT format anything :-)

> DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME
> MOTHERBOARD,
> including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the
> harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS"
>

Dave is talking out of his arse, this is not the only way.

> Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical chipset
> boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the repair
> console wont work?
>
> I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom software
> installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I have to
> reinstall the OS.
>
> Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios?
>

I've done both, both work.

> thanks
>
>
>
>>"maurice" <mauriceDELETEALLCAPS@WWWwidebaymultimedia.com> wrote in message
>>news:412564a3$0$25143$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>>>I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte ga7n400,
>
> with
>
>>>another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall of XP.
>>>Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight budget (and
>
> a
>
>>>very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte nforce
>>
>>chipset
>>
>>>board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can find no
>
> info
>
>>>on beyond it uses mcp and spp.
>>>
>>>I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia soundstorm
>>
>>chip)
>>
>>>but hopefully this wont be a terminal
>>>problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce chipset
>>
>>I'm
>>
>>>most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide drives
>
> etc
>
>>>would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past history of
>>
>>this
>>
>>>job has any bearing then I'm screwed!
>>>
>>>any thoughts on these issues much appreciated
>>>
>>>cheers
>>>
>>>Maurice
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo
August 22, 2004 6:35:56 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

the 'proper' way is to use the console.......not to say that what you
do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you
looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines,
curious is all.


"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
news:412796e1$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> maurice wrote:
> > Ok, two very different opinions here,
> >
> > JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a
repair
> > install
> > from the console"
> >
>
> You dont want to go into the console. Just put the hardware
together,
> and boot from the XP cdrom. Keep going through the stages as if you
were
> going to do a new install. Eventually you'll be asked if you want to
> reinstall or repair (not the same as console), and this is what you
> want. If you miss it, do NOT format anything :-)
>
> > DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME
> > MOTHERBOARD,
> > including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat
the
> > harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS"
> >
>
> Dave is talking out of his arse, this is not the only way.
>
> > Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical
chipset
> > boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the
repair
> > console wont work?
> >
> > I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom
software
> > installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I
have to
> > reinstall the OS.
> >
> > Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios?
> >
>
> I've done both, both work.
>
> > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >>"maurice" <mauriceDELETEALLCAPS@WWWwidebaymultimedia.com> wrote in
message
> >>news:412564a3$0$25143$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >>
> >>>I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte
ga7n400,
> >
> > with
> >
> >>>another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall
of XP.
> >>>Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight
budget (and
> >
> > a
> >
> >>>very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte
nforce
> >>
> >>chipset
> >>
> >>>board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can
find no
> >
> > info
> >
> >>>on beyond it uses mcp and spp.
> >>>
> >>>I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia
soundstorm
> >>
> >>chip)
> >>
> >>>but hopefully this wont be a terminal
> >>>problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce
chipset
> >>
> >>I'm
> >>
> >>>most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide
drives
> >
> > etc
> >
> >>>would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past
history of
> >>
> >>this
> >>
> >>>job has any bearing then I'm screwed!
> >>>
> >>>any thoughts on these issues much appreciated
> >>>
> >>>cheers
> >>>
> >>>Maurice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
August 22, 2004 6:35:57 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

JAD wrote:

> the 'proper' way is to use the console.......

Using 'the console' is the 'proper' way to do WHAT?

> not to say that what you
> do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have you
> looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines,
> curious is all.
>
>
> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> news:412796e1$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>
>>maurice wrote:
>>
>>>Ok, two very different opinions here,
>>>
>>>JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a
>
> repair
>
>>>install
>>>from the console"
>>>
>>
>>You dont want to go into the console. Just put the hardware
>
> together,
>
>>and boot from the XP cdrom. Keep going through the stages as if you
>
> were
>
>>going to do a new install. Eventually you'll be asked if you want to
>>reinstall or repair (not the same as console), and this is what you
>>want. If you miss it, do NOT format anything :-)
>>
>>
>>>DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME
>>>MOTHERBOARD,
>>> including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat
>
> the
>
>>> harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS"
>>>
>>
>>Dave is talking out of his arse, this is not the only way.
>>
>>
>>>Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical
>
> chipset
>
>>>boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the
>
> repair
>
>>>console wont work?
>>>
>>>I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom
>
> software
>
>>>installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I
>
> have to
>
>>>reinstall the OS.
>>>
>>>Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios?
>>>
>>
>>I've done both, both work.
>>
>>
>>>thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"maurice" <mauriceDELETEALLCAPS@WWWwidebaymultimedia.com> wrote in
>
> message
>
>>>>news:412564a3$0$25143$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte
>
> ga7n400,
>
>>>with
>>>
>>>
>>>>>another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a reinstall
>
> of XP.
>
>>>>>Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight
>
> budget (and
>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>>>very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte
>
> nforce
>
>>>>chipset
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can
>
> find no
>
>>>info
>>>
>>>
>>>>>on beyond it uses mcp and spp.
>>>>>
>>>>>I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia
>
> soundstorm
>
>>>>chip)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>but hopefully this wont be a terminal
>>>>>problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce
>
> chipset
>
>>>>I'm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide
>
> drives
>
>>>etc
>>>
>>>
>>>>>would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past
>
> history of
>
>>>>this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>job has any bearing then I'm screwed!
>>>>>
>>>>>any thoughts on these issues much appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>>cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>Maurice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo
>
>
>
August 22, 2004 6:35:58 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

You dont want to go into the console. Just put the hardware
>
> together,
>
>>and boot from the XP cdrom. Keep going through the stages as if you
>
> were
>
>>going to do a new install. Eventually you'll be asked if you want to
>>reinstall or repair (not the same as console), and this is what you
>>want. If you miss it, do NOT format anything :-)

If one is interested in reading a post/thread for the sake of
information one usually reads the whole thread. Whats your reason?



"David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:10ifm3gi8lg9la9@corp.supernews.com...
> JAD wrote:
>
> > the 'proper' way is to use the console.......
>
>
> > not to say that what you
> > do doesn't work. Question: after doing the install your way, have
you
> > looked over the boot log? is it without 'failed to load' lines,
> > curious is all.
> >
> >
> > "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> > news:412796e1$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> >
> >>maurice wrote:
> >>
> >>>Ok, two very different opinions here,
> >>>
> >>>JAD "1. after the install of the MB boot with XP CD and do a
> >
> > repair
> >
> >>>install
> >>>from the console"
> >>>
> >>
> >>You dont want to go into the console. Just put the hardware
> >
> > together,
> >
> >>and boot from the XP cdrom. Keep going through the stages as if
you
> >
> > were
> >
> >>going to do a new install. Eventually you'll be asked if you want
to
> >>reinstall or repair (not the same as console), and this is what
you
> >>want. If you miss it, do NOT format anything :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>>DaveW "2. Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME
> >>>MOTHERBOARD,
> >>> including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat
> >
> > the
> >
> >>> harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS"
> >>>
> >>
> >>Dave is talking out of his arse, this is not the only way.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Dave, have you had first hand experience with swapping identical
> >
> > chipset
> >
> >>>boards and having to reformat. Do you have reason to believe the
> >
> > repair
> >
> >>>console wont work?
> >>>
> >>>I normally would reformat but the client has had some custom
> >
> > software
> >
> >>>installed which will need to be reconfigured by the vendor if I
> >
> > have to
> >
> >>>reinstall the OS.
> >>>
> >>>Anybody else had good or bad luck with either of these scenarios?
> >>>
> >>
> >>I've done both, both work.
> >>
> >>
> >>>thanks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"maurice" <mauriceDELETEALLCAPS@WWWwidebaymultimedia.com> wrote
in
> >
> > message
> >
> >>>>news:412564a3$0$25143$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I have have to replace a nvidia chipset mainboard a gigabyte
> >
> > ga7n400,
> >
> >>>with
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>another mainboard but really dont want to have to do a
reinstall
> >
> > of XP.
> >
> >>>>>Ideally Id replace with the same model but its a very tight
> >
> > budget (and
> >
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>very long story!) so I was looking at using another Gigabyte
> >
> > nforce
> >
> >>>>chipset
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>board either the ga7n400L or a new model ga7nf-rz which I can
> >
> > find no
> >
> >>>info
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>on beyond it uses mcp and spp.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I know the sound will be different(the pro uses the nvidia
> >
> > soundstorm
> >
> >>>>chip)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>but hopefully this wont be a terminal
> >>>>>problem, its differences in the different flavors of the nforce
> >
> > chipset
> >
> >>>>I'm
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>most concerned about. I was hoping that the core logic for ide
> >
> > drives
> >
> >>>etc
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>would be close enough not to cause a problem but if the past
> >
> > history of
> >
> >>>>this
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>job has any bearing then I'm screwed!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>any thoughts on these issues much appreciated
> >>>>>
> >>>>>cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Maurice
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo
> >
> >
> >
>
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
August 22, 2004 11:04:03 AM

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:16:53 GMT, "DaveW" <none@zero.org> wrote:

>Unless you replace the motherboard with the EXACT SAME MOTHERBOARD,
>including version, etc., you'll be hosed if you don not reformat the
>harddrive and do a CLEAN install of the OS.

Wrong. Please stop spreading misinformation.

As another poster said, the OP should just do the repair re-install.
Actually the chipsets may be close enough so that not even that may be
necessary.

Before doing that, a backup should be done, esp. of data and settings. Use
erunt for a registry backup too. On rare occasions a re-install can go awry
so that a new install is demanded by XP. But just restore the registry,
tweak what needs tweaking (like turning off onboard sound in the BIOS you
forgot to do), and try again.
!