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Hello everyone, I've been reading this newsgroup for about 2 years, and have
to just say TIA for all the great advice. Anyway, I am in the process of
putting together a new computer for my dad. My budget is $1000.00. I'd
like to get a range of ideas about what to put together. He basically uses
it for email, home budgeting, paying bills, etc. I would like to include a
nice photo printer and possibly a 17 or 19" LCD monitor. DVD burner would
be unnecessary, also. What do you guys think? Thanks...


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"Kevin Beall" <k.beall@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> Hello everyone, I've been reading this newsgroup for about 2 years, and
> have
> to just say TIA for all the great advice. Anyway, I am in the process of
> putting together a new computer for my dad. My budget is $1000.00. I'd
> like to get a range of ideas about what to put together. He basically
> uses
> it for email, home budgeting, paying bills, etc. I would like to include
> a
> nice photo printer and possibly a 17 or 19" LCD monitor. DVD burner
> would
> be unnecessary, also. What do you guys think? Thanks...
>
>

What do you mean by photo printer? Just about every inkjet printer is now
"photo" quality, or can be with the purchase of an optional ink cartridge.
But they don't do a good job of printing photos. But then there are
dedicated photo printers that JUST print photos. Those would be expensive
and useful for nothing BUT printing photos. There are photo printers made
for specific cameras. One of those might be the best solution, along with
just about any cheap inkjet printer. But that would assume that your dad
was using a specific model of digital camera.

You can forget about a 19" LCD. A 17" LCD might be do-able. If the HP 5150
would work as a "photo" printer (it's one of the better general-purpose
inkjets on the market), then this setup will do: from www.mwave.com

SKU Qty Item Unit Price Ext. Price
BA20747 -BA20433 -BA08523 ASUS P4P800-MX INTEL 865GV CHIPSET SERIAL
ATA150 ATX FORM FACTOR 3xPCI/4xDDR W/INTEGRATED VGA,SATA, LAN, USB 2.0 &
AUDIO (CPU TYPE:INTEL CELERON, PENTIUM 4 - 400/533/800MHZ) Details (CELERON
D 320 2.4G (533Mhz); KINGSTON 512MB DDR266) $213.00 $213.00

BA20580 -BA20184 ANTEC SLK1650B (BLACK) MID TOWER W/SMART POWER 350W ATX
POWER SUPPLY Details (EXTRA 80mm FAN(CLEAR)) $62.00 $62.00

AA17310 - MITUSMI 1.44 FLOPPY (Bare drive-black color) Details (NO FDD
CABLE) $7.90 $7.90

AA17640 -BA19877 WD 80GB WD800JB EIDE ULTRA-ATA/66-100 8.9MS 7200RPM 8MB
BUFFER HARD DRIVE (Bare drive) Details (24" ATA DATA CABLE) (*Limit
1pcs/customer) $60.40 $60.40

AA22830 -AA00482 - - LITE ON 48X/24X/48X CDRW+16X DVD BLACK #LTC4816B
W/SW (White box) Details (AUDIO CABLE; NO DATA CABLE; NO MEDIA) $48.00
$48.00

AA17380 AOPEN KB-858 BLACK 107-KEY PS/2 KEYBOARD Details $8.50 $8.50

3450294 LOGITECH OPTICAL MOUSE USB/PS2 (Black) Details . $17.44 $17.44

AA30350 HYUNDAI L70S 17" LCD 1280X1024 .26 450:1 W/SPEAKER
(Silver/black) Details $269.00 $269.00

1471030 BELKIN STANLEY 6-OUTLET SURGE PROTECTOR 555-JOULES 6FT-CORD
Details . $14.68 $14.68

AA15070 Microsoft Windows XP Professional w/sp2 #E85-03014(DSP/OEM)*Must
be Purchased w/Hardware!!* Details $134.00 $134.00

3321582 -BA19721 - HP DESKJET 5150 19PPM BLACK/14PPM COLOR 4800X1200DPI
PRINTER Details (10' USB PRINTER CABLE; NO PAPER) $93.46 $93.46
Sub Total $928.38

Note the video and sound are built-in to the motherboard. Note also that
the monitor has built-in speakers. This is less than $1000, but you might
need to add a MODEM to it, also. (depending on what your dad uses for
Internet service). Note also that Windows XP HOME would do as well as XP
Pro (and Home would be cheaper), but I couldn't find an XP HOME edition with
SP2. For the extra money, you will avoid a big headache of installing SP2,
so I think it's worth it to upgrade to XP PRO, considering you can't get the
OEM discount if you purchase your hardware from mwave but buy the OS
elsewhere. -Dave


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I sugessest that he keep using his current monitor and printer, and spend
the $1,000 budget on the pc itself. Spending $400-$500 on an lcd monitor
and printer will leave only around $500-$600 for the computer itself, which
would only enable him to get a low end system.

Kevin Beall wrote:

> Hello everyone, I've been reading this newsgroup for about 2 years, and have
> to just say TIA for all the great advice. Anyway, I am in the process of
> putting together a new computer for my dad. My budget is $1000.00. I'd
> like to get a range of ideas about what to put together. He basically uses
> it for email, home budgeting, paying bills, etc. I would like to include a
> nice photo printer and possibly a 17 or 19" LCD monitor. DVD burner would
> be unnecessary, also. What do you guys think? Thanks...
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"Dave C." wrote:

> "Kevin Beall" <k.beall@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:FY4fd.244588$wV.17976@attbi_s54...
> > Hello everyone, I've been reading this newsgroup for about 2 years, and
> > have
> > to just say TIA for all the great advice. Anyway, I am in the process of
> > putting together a new computer for my dad. My budget is $1000.00. I'd
> > like to get a range of ideas about what to put together. He basically
> > uses
> > it for email, home budgeting, paying bills, etc. I would like to include
> > a
> > nice photo printer and possibly a 17 or 19" LCD monitor. DVD burner
> > would
> > be unnecessary, also. What do you guys think? Thanks...
> >
> >
>
> What do you mean by photo printer? Just about every inkjet printer is now
> "photo" quality, or can be with the purchase of an optional ink cartridge.
> But they don't do a good job of printing photos. But then there are
> dedicated photo printers that JUST print photos. Those would be expensive
> and useful for nothing BUT printing photos. There are photo printers made
> for specific cameras. One of those might be the best solution, along with
> just about any cheap inkjet printer. But that would assume that your dad
> was using a specific model of digital camera.
>
> You can forget about a 19" LCD. A 17" LCD might be do-able. If the HP 5150
> would work as a "photo" printer (it's one of the better general-purpose
> inkjets on the market), then this setup will do: from www.mwave.com
>
> SKU Qty Item Unit Price Ext. Price
> BA20747 -BA20433 -BA08523 ASUS P4P800-MX INTEL 865GV CHIPSET SERIAL
> ATA150 ATX FORM FACTOR 3xPCI/4xDDR W/INTEGRATED VGA,SATA, LAN, USB 2.0 &
> AUDIO (CPU TYPE:INTEL CELERON, PENTIUM 4 - 400/533/800MHZ) Details (CELERON
> D 320 2.4G (533Mhz); KINGSTON 512MB DDR266) $213.00 $213.00

Not a good idea. An AMD Sempron would be a much better choice for the price.


>
>
> BA20580 -BA20184 ANTEC SLK1650B (BLACK) MID TOWER W/SMART POWER 350W ATX
> POWER SUPPLY Details (EXTRA 80mm FAN(CLEAR)) $62.00 $62.00
>
> AA17310 - MITUSMI 1.44 FLOPPY (Bare drive-black color) Details (NO FDD
> CABLE) $7.90 $7.90
>
> AA17640 -BA19877 WD 80GB WD800JB EIDE ULTRA-ATA/66-100 8.9MS 7200RPM 8MB
> BUFFER HARD DRIVE (Bare drive) Details (24" ATA DATA CABLE) (*Limit
> 1pcs/customer) $60.40 $60.40
>
> AA22830 -AA00482 - - LITE ON 48X/24X/48X CDRW+16X DVD BLACK #LTC4816B
> W/SW (White box) Details (AUDIO CABLE; NO DATA CABLE; NO MEDIA) $48.00
> $48.00
>
> AA17380 AOPEN KB-858 BLACK 107-KEY PS/2 KEYBOARD Details $8.50 $8.50
>
> 3450294 LOGITECH OPTICAL MOUSE USB/PS2 (Black) Details . $17.44 $17.44
>
> AA30350 HYUNDAI L70S 17" LCD 1280X1024 .26 450:1 W/SPEAKER
> (Silver/black) Details $269.00 $269.00
>
> 1471030 BELKIN STANLEY 6-OUTLET SURGE PROTECTOR 555-JOULES 6FT-CORD
> Details . $14.68 $14.68
>
> AA15070 Microsoft Windows XP Professional w/sp2 #E85-03014(DSP/OEM)*Must
> be Purchased w/Hardware!!* Details $134.00 $134.00
>
> 3321582 -BA19721 - HP DESKJET 5150 19PPM BLACK/14PPM COLOR 4800X1200DPI
> PRINTER Details (10' USB PRINTER CABLE; NO PAPER) $93.46 $93.46
> Sub Total $928.38
>
> Note the video and sound are built-in to the motherboard.

UGH!!!!!


> Note also that
> the monitor has built-in speakers. This is less than $1000, but you might
> need to add a MODEM to it, also. (depending on what your dad uses for
> Internet service). Note also that Windows XP HOME would do as well as XP
> Pro (and Home would be cheaper), but I couldn't find an XP HOME edition with
> SP2. For the extra money, you will avoid a big headache of installing SP2,
> so I think it's worth it to upgrade to XP PRO, considering you can't get the
> OEM discount if you purchase your hardware from mwave but buy the OS
> elsewhere. -Dave
>
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Kevin Beall:

> Hello everyone, I've been reading this newsgroup for about 2 years,
> and have to just say TIA for all the great advice. Anyway, I am in
> the process of putting together a new computer for my dad. My budget
> is $1000.00. I'd like to get a range of ideas about what to put
> together. He basically uses it for email, home budgeting, paying
> bills, etc. I would like to include a nice photo printer and
> possibly a 17 or 19" LCD monitor. DVD burner would be unnecessary,
> also. What do you guys think? Thanks...

Some good recommendations below, you can tweek them and allow for the
monitor and printer:
http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/system-09-21-2004.ars/2
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With an LCD monitor, you are probably over your budget already. A CRT
monitor will not be so expensive. However, check out Dell. They have some
pretty good deals which include an LCD monitor.


"Kevin Beall" <k.beall@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> Hello everyone, I've been reading this newsgroup for about 2 years, and
> have to just say TIA for all the great advice. Anyway, I am in the
> process of putting together a new computer for my dad. My budget is
> $1000.00. I'd like to get a range of ideas about what to put together.
> He basically uses it for email, home budgeting, paying bills, etc. I
> would like to include a nice photo printer and possibly a 17 or 19" LCD
> monitor. DVD burner would be unnecessary, also. What do you guys think?
> Thanks...
>
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In article <417CFA47.F2984D15@netscape.net>, JK9821@netscape.net says...
> I sugessest that he keep using his current monitor and printer, and spend
> the $1,000 budget on the pc itself. Spending $400-$500 on an lcd monitor
> and printer will leave only around $500-$600 for the computer itself, which
> would only enable him to get a low end system.

I dissagree with that assessement. Frankly, even the lowest of the low-
end that is being sold now in stores is more than enough for his needs.
his dad ain't a gamer. Spending most of the money on a good quality
printer and screen is a much better investment since they don't go
obsolete as fast as the computer itself.

A low end AMD/Celeron based machine will be more than enough for
"surfing, paying bills and printing pictures".

For an "ordinary" non-power user, investing in good solid peripherals is
much better than horking up money for a machine that will be overkill
for his needs.

- Yves
 
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>
> I dissagree with that assessement. Frankly, even the lowest of the low-
> end that is being sold now in stores is more than enough for his needs.
> his dad ain't a gamer. Spending most of the money on a good quality
> printer and screen is a much better investment since they don't go
> obsolete as fast as the computer itself.
>
> A low end AMD/Celeron based machine will be more than enough for
> "surfing, paying bills and printing pictures".
>
> For an "ordinary" non-power user, investing in good solid peripherals is
> much better than horking up money for a machine that will be overkill
> for his needs.
>
> - Yves


I couldn't have said that better myself. A 17" LCD and a (not low end, but
not expensive either) HP printer is what I recommended, along with a Celeron
based everything built in mainboard. For just those reasons. -Dave
 

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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:55:33 GMT, "Kevin Beall" <k.beall@mchsi.com>
wrote:

>Hello everyone, I've been reading this newsgroup for about 2 years, and have
>to just say TIA for all the great advice. Anyway, I am in the process of
>putting together a new computer for my dad. My budget is $1000.00. I'd
>like to get a range of ideas about what to put together. He basically uses
>it for email, home budgeting, paying bills, etc. I would like to include a
>nice photo printer and possibly a 17 or 19" LCD monitor. DVD burner would
>be unnecessary, also. What do you guys think? Thanks...
>
>
>

It can be done. The LCD monitor is a bit skewed in a $1000 system,
but take a look at ViewSonic VX7 15" LCD for less than $400. Take a
look at Sharky Extreme's value system for other parts. You can skimp
on the video card recommendation (for $170) and get the Radeon 9600
Pro 128MB for $110 to compensate for the LCD cost. Sharky allows you
to choose either the AMD or Intel processor, although I think you get
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"Wooducoodu" <wooducoodu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> here's what i came up with throwing together a quick $1000 system at
> newegg.
> went a little over but would be easy to shave $60 off starting with
> cheaper
> ram and i wasnt sure if you meant you did want a dvd writer.
>
> http://secure.newegg.com/app/WishHistoryReview.asp?position=HISTORY&submit=VIEW&ID=1046832
>


Wow, I like your system better. Where's the OS, though? Still, if I was
building, I'd probably go over a bit and build YOUR system. -Dave