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January 29, 2005 10:56:33 PM

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Does anyone know where I can still get the windows me update cd that
microsoft offered a while back? I didn't find out about it until now
and they're no longer offering it.

Thanks,
Kay

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January 30, 2005 12:31:06 AM

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The ME upgrade CD came out over 4 years ago; that's why they are not still
offering it; it's been superseded.

Yur best bet on getting it is searching eBay.

"kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1107057393.198097.223280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Does anyone know where I can still get the windows me update cd that
> microsoft offered a while back? I didn't find out about it until now
> and they're no longer offering it.
>
> Thanks,
> Kay
>
January 30, 2005 6:48:51 PM

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Yes, I'm talking about the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
Apparently, I am very out of touch. I'm just now hearing about the ms
windows security cd and I've never heard of The ME upgrade CD. I
imagine there's not much chance of finding an ME upgrade CD but I'm
really hoping to find the security cd.
Thanks,
Kay
Alan Edwards wrote:
> That is assuming Kay is not talking about this:
>
> Microsoft Windows Security Update CD
> February 2004
>
> ...Alan
>
> --
> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
> In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Jerry"
> <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> wrote:
>
> >The ME upgrade CD came out over 4 years ago; that's why they are not
still
> >offering it; it's been superseded.
> >
> >Yur best bet on getting it is searching eBay.
> >
> >"kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1107057393.198097.223280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >> Does anyone know where I can still get the windows me update cd
that
> >> microsoft offered a while back? I didn't find out about it until
now
> >> and they're no longer offering it.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kay
> >>
> >
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Anonymous
January 30, 2005 8:08:44 PM

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That is assuming Kay is not talking about this:

Microsoft Windows Security Update CD
February 2004

....Alan

--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Jerry"
<NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> wrote:

>The ME upgrade CD came out over 4 years ago; that's why they are not still
>offering it; it's been superseded.
>
>Yur best bet on getting it is searching eBay.
>
>"kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1107057393.198097.223280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Does anyone know where I can still get the windows me update cd that
>> microsoft offered a while back? I didn't find out about it until now
>> and they're no longer offering it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kay
>>
>
January 30, 2005 10:17:58 PM

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Hello,
Thanks for all the help. Someone has kindly offered to send me a copy
of the cd. And Shane, thanks for telling me how I can still use the cd
if it's timed out.
Kay

WTC (remove) wrote:
> "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:365c8hF4bi0rtU1@individual.net...
> > The upgrade cd is just a copy of Windows ME requiring a qualifying
> > product,
> > eg a Win 98 cd, before it'll install, as opposed to a full version.
> >
> > If you get hold of a copy of the Windows Security Update cd, be
advised
> > that
> > it was programmed not to run after a certain date (no doubt because
an
> > out-of-date security cd could feasibly be a liability to the user
and a
> > legal liability for MS).
> >
> > However, the routine that checks the date can be circumvented in a
no. of
> > ways. Simplest - though I haven't verified it, but it would explain
my
> > experience of about a week ago testing it on ME and XP - is to
disable
> > javascript before inserting the cd.
> >
> > Alternatively you can run each update by browsing the cd in
explorer and
> > double-clicking the relevent executables.
> >
> > Or you can copy the cd to the hard drive and remove the relevent
lines of
> > code from control.htm, after which the 'cd' would run from the hard
drive
> > (by d-clicking autorun.exe iirc).
> >
> > Or having removed said lines of code you could then burn the files
to a
> > cdr
> > thus obtaining a copy of the cd that will thereafter run
indefinately.
> >
> >
> >
> > Shane
> >
Anonymous
January 31, 2005 3:05:32 AM

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There is no Win Me update or upgrade CD (unless you mean to upgrade from
Win 9x), the Security Update CD was for Win 98, 98SE, Win Me, Win2K and
XP.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mike.maltby@gmail.com


kay <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes, I'm talking about the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
> Apparently, I am very out of touch. I'm just now hearing about the ms
> windows security cd and I've never heard of The ME upgrade CD. I
> imagine there's not much chance of finding an ME upgrade CD but I'm
> really hoping to find the security cd.
January 31, 2005 3:25:30 AM

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The upgrade cd is just a copy of Windows ME requiring a qualifying product,
eg a Win 98 cd, before it'll install, as opposed to a full version.

If you get hold of a copy of the Windows Security Update cd, be advised that
it was programmed not to run after a certain date (no doubt because an
out-of-date security cd could feasibly be a liability to the user and a
legal liability for MS).

However, the routine that checks the date can be circumvented in a no. of
ways. Simplest - though I haven't verified it, but it would explain my
experience of about a week ago testing it on ME and XP - is to disable
javascript before inserting the cd.

Alternatively you can run each update by browsing the cd in explorer and
double-clicking the relevent executables.

Or you can copy the cd to the hard drive and remove the relevent lines of
code from control.htm, after which the 'cd' would run from the hard drive
(by d-clicking autorun.exe iirc).

Or having removed said lines of code you could then burn the files to a cdr
thus obtaining a copy of the cd that will thereafter run indefinately.



Shane


"kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1107128931.637414.169690@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Yes, I'm talking about the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
> Apparently, I am very out of touch. I'm just now hearing about the ms
> windows security cd and I've never heard of The ME upgrade CD. I
> imagine there's not much chance of finding an ME upgrade CD but I'm
> really hoping to find the security cd.
> Thanks,
> Kay
> Alan Edwards wrote:
> > That is assuming Kay is not talking about this:
> >
> > Microsoft Windows Security Update CD
> > February 2004
> >
> > ...Alan
> >
> > --
> > Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> > http://dts-l.org/index.html
> >
> > In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Jerry"
> > <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The ME upgrade CD came out over 4 years ago; that's why they are not
> still
> > >offering it; it's been superseded.
> > >
> > >Yur best bet on getting it is searching eBay.
> > >
> > >"kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >news:1107057393.198097.223280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > >> Does anyone know where I can still get the windows me update cd
> that
> > >> microsoft offered a while back? I didn't find out about it until
> now
> > >> and they're no longer offering it.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Kay
> > >>
> > >
>
Anonymous
January 31, 2005 3:25:31 AM

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"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:365c8hF4bi0rtU1@individual.net...
> The upgrade cd is just a copy of Windows ME requiring a qualifying
> product,
> eg a Win 98 cd, before it'll install, as opposed to a full version.
>
> If you get hold of a copy of the Windows Security Update cd, be advised
> that
> it was programmed not to run after a certain date (no doubt because an
> out-of-date security cd could feasibly be a liability to the user and a
> legal liability for MS).
>
> However, the routine that checks the date can be circumvented in a no. of
> ways. Simplest - though I haven't verified it, but it would explain my
> experience of about a week ago testing it on ME and XP - is to disable
> javascript before inserting the cd.
>
> Alternatively you can run each update by browsing the cd in explorer and
> double-clicking the relevent executables.
>
> Or you can copy the cd to the hard drive and remove the relevent lines of
> code from control.htm, after which the 'cd' would run from the hard drive
> (by d-clicking autorun.exe iirc).
>
> Or having removed said lines of code you could then burn the files to a
> cdr
> thus obtaining a copy of the cd that will thereafter run indefinately.
>
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> "kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1107128931.637414.169690@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Yes, I'm talking about the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
>> Apparently, I am very out of touch. I'm just now hearing about the ms
>> windows security cd and I've never heard of The ME upgrade CD. I
>> imagine there's not much chance of finding an ME upgrade CD but I'm
>> really hoping to find the security cd.
>> Thanks,
>> Kay
>> Alan Edwards wrote:
>> > That is assuming Kay is not talking about this:
>> >
>> > Microsoft Windows Security Update CD
>> > February 2004
>> >
>> > ...Alan
>> >
>> > --
>> > Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>> > http://dts-l.org/index.html
>> >
>> > In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Jerry"
>> > <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >The ME upgrade CD came out over 4 years ago; that's why they are not
>> still
>> > >offering it; it's been superseded.
>> > >
>> > >Yur best bet on getting it is searching eBay.
>> > >
>> > >"kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > >news:1107057393.198097.223280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > >> Does anyone know where I can still get the windows me update cd
>> that
>> > >> microsoft offered a while back? I didn't find out about it until
>> now
>> > >> and they're no longer offering it.
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >> Kay
>> > >>
>> > >
>>
>
>


Or you can change your clock back to March 2004.

--
William
Anonymous
January 31, 2005 2:26:36 PM

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As you have ME already, then I don't see that you need the Upgrade CD,
so just concentrate on the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
Perhaps someone in or about Columbus, OH will answer your plea.
If not, then just get the updates slowly from Windows Update.

....Alan

--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html


In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Yes, I'm talking about the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
>Apparently, I am very out of touch. I'm just now hearing about the ms
>windows security cd and I've never heard of The ME upgrade CD. I
>imagine there's not much chance of finding an ME upgrade CD but I'm
>really hoping to find the security cd.
>Thanks,
>Kay
>Alan Edwards wrote:
>> That is assuming Kay is not talking about this:
>>
>> Microsoft Windows Security Update CD
>> February 2004
>>
>> ...Alan
>>
>> --
>> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>>
>> In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Jerry"
>> <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> wrote:
>>
>> >The ME upgrade CD came out over 4 years ago; that's why they are not
>still
>> >offering it; it's been superseded.
>> >
>> >Yur best bet on getting it is searching eBay.
>> >
>> >"kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:1107057393.198097.223280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> >> Does anyone know where I can still get the windows me update cd
>that
>> >> microsoft offered a while back? I didn't find out about it until
>now
>> >> and they're no longer offering it.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Kay
>> >>
>> >
January 31, 2005 2:26:37 PM

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Go back and re-read the message. She did say she had never heard of the ME
upgrade either. She wants both.

"Alan Edwards" <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote in message
news:70uqv0hm4fjoa5h9koaku17fc6omll3gh8@4ax.com...
> As you have ME already, then I don't see that you need the Upgrade CD,
> so just concentrate on the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
> Perhaps someone in or about Columbus, OH will answer your plea.
> If not, then just get the updates slowly from Windows Update.
>
> ...Alan
>
> --
> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
>
> In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Yes, I'm talking about the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
>>Apparently, I am very out of touch. I'm just now hearing about the ms
>>windows security cd and I've never heard of The ME upgrade CD. I
>>imagine there's not much chance of finding an ME upgrade CD but I'm
>>really hoping to find the security cd.
>>Thanks,
>>Kay
>>Alan Edwards wrote:
>>> That is assuming Kay is not talking about this:
>>>
>>> Microsoft Windows Security Update CD
>>> February 2004
>>>
>>> ...Alan
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>>> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>>>
>>> In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Jerry"
>>> <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The ME upgrade CD came out over 4 years ago; that's why they are not
>>still
>>> >offering it; it's been superseded.
>>> >
>>> >Yur best bet on getting it is searching eBay.
>>> >
>>> >"kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> >news:1107057393.198097.223280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>> >> Does anyone know where I can still get the windows me update cd
>>that
>>> >> microsoft offered a while back? I didn't find out about it until
>>now
>>> >> and they're no longer offering it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Kay
>>> >>
>>> >
>
Anonymous
January 31, 2005 6:56:58 PM

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I have reread it.
Just because she has never heard of the Upgrade CD is no indication
that she needs it.
Why do you think she needs an Upgrade CD if she has ME already?

....Alan

--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Jerry"
<NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> wrote:

>Go back and re-read the message. She did say she had never heard of the ME
>upgrade either. She wants both.
>
>"Alan Edwards" <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote in message
>news:70uqv0hm4fjoa5h9koaku17fc6omll3gh8@4ax.com...
>> As you have ME already, then I don't see that you need the Upgrade CD,
>> so just concentrate on the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
>> Perhaps someone in or about Columbus, OH will answer your plea.
>> If not, then just get the updates slowly from Windows Update.
>>
>> ...Alan
>>
>> --
>> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>>
>>
>> In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, I'm talking about the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
>>>Apparently, I am very out of touch. I'm just now hearing about the ms
>>>windows security cd and I've never heard of The ME upgrade CD. I
>>>imagine there's not much chance of finding an ME upgrade CD but I'm
>>>really hoping to find the security cd.
>>>Thanks,
>>>Kay
>>>Alan Edwards wrote:
>>>> That is assuming Kay is not talking about this:
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft Windows Security Update CD
>>>> February 2004
>>>>
>>>> ...Alan
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>>>> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>>>>
>>>> In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Jerry"
>>>> <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >The ME upgrade CD came out over 4 years ago; that's why they are not
>>>still
>>>> >offering it; it's been superseded.
>>>> >
>>>> >Yur best bet on getting it is searching eBay.
>>>> >
>>>> >"kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> >news:1107057393.198097.223280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> >> Does anyone know where I can still get the windows me update cd
>>>that
>>>> >> microsoft offered a while back? I didn't find out about it until
>>>now
>>>> >> and they're no longer offering it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> Kay
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>
>
January 31, 2005 6:56:59 PM

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Because in her second posting she says she has never heard of the ME upgrade
CD.

"Alan Edwards" <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote in message
news:4gerv0dvk8q6tktn48fitdlc3or5lurl3n@4ax.com...
>I have reread it.
> Just because she has never heard of the Upgrade CD is no indication
> that she needs it.
> Why do you think she needs an Upgrade CD if she has ME already?
>
> ...Alan
>
> --
> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
> In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Jerry"
> <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> wrote:
>
>>Go back and re-read the message. She did say she had never heard of the ME
>>upgrade either. She wants both.
>>
>>"Alan Edwards" <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote in message
>>news:70uqv0hm4fjoa5h9koaku17fc6omll3gh8@4ax.com...
>>> As you have ME already, then I don't see that you need the Upgrade CD,
>>> so just concentrate on the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
>>> Perhaps someone in or about Columbus, OH will answer your plea.
>>> If not, then just get the updates slowly from Windows Update.
>>>
>>> ...Alan
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>>> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes, I'm talking about the Microsoft Windows Security Update CD.
>>>>Apparently, I am very out of touch. I'm just now hearing about the ms
>>>>windows security cd and I've never heard of The ME upgrade CD. I
>>>>imagine there's not much chance of finding an ME upgrade CD but I'm
>>>>really hoping to find the security cd.
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Kay
>>>>Alan Edwards wrote:
>>>>> That is assuming Kay is not talking about this:
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft Windows Security Update CD
>>>>> February 2004
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Alan
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
>>>>> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Jerry"
>>>>> <NoSpamChiefZeke@MSN.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >The ME upgrade CD came out over 4 years ago; that's why they are not
>>>>still
>>>>> >offering it; it's been superseded.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Yur best bet on getting it is searching eBay.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >"kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> >news:1107057393.198097.223280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> >> Does anyone know where I can still get the windows me update cd
>>>>that
>>>>> >> microsoft offered a while back? I didn't find out about it until
>>>>now
>>>>> >> and they're no longer offering it.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>> >> Kay
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>
>>
>
Anonymous
January 31, 2005 7:55:40 PM

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It may not time out. It didn't for me and I don't see why it should,
(but someone may tell me), looking at control.htm

I have used it on two computers after the supposed time out date and
had no trouble. Both were offline at the time and that may be a
factor.

Are you really sure you need this CD?
I have used it on computers with no internet connection or a slow
dial-up line but I haven't seen any need to use it on any computers
that have had access to Windows Update and hence don't need the CD.

....Alan

--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "kay" <ktdville@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Hello,
>Thanks for all the help. Someone has kindly offered to send me a copy
>of the cd. And Shane, thanks for telling me how I can still use the cd
>if it's timed out.
>Kay
>
>WTC (remove) wrote:
>> "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:365c8hF4bi0rtU1@individual.net...
>> > The upgrade cd is just a copy of Windows ME requiring a qualifying
>> > product,
>> > eg a Win 98 cd, before it'll install, as opposed to a full version.
>> >
>> > If you get hold of a copy of the Windows Security Update cd, be
>advised
>> > that
>> > it was programmed not to run after a certain date (no doubt because
>an
>> > out-of-date security cd could feasibly be a liability to the user
>and a
>> > legal liability for MS).
>> >
>> > However, the routine that checks the date can be circumvented in a
>no. of
>> > ways. Simplest - though I haven't verified it, but it would explain
>my
>> > experience of about a week ago testing it on ME and XP - is to
>disable
>> > javascript before inserting the cd.
>> >
>> > Alternatively you can run each update by browsing the cd in
>explorer and
>> > double-clicking the relevent executables.
>> >
>> > Or you can copy the cd to the hard drive and remove the relevent
>lines of
>> > code from control.htm, after which the 'cd' would run from the hard
>drive
>> > (by d-clicking autorun.exe iirc).
>> >
>> > Or having removed said lines of code you could then burn the files
>to a
>> > cdr
>> > thus obtaining a copy of the cd that will thereafter run
>indefinately.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Shane
>> >
Anonymous
January 31, 2005 7:55:41 PM

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I used the CD without problem on a clean install of 98SE last weekend for
a friend who only has slow dial-up access to the net and had no date
problems, just prior to that I tested it for myself on virgin Win Me
install in a virtual PC and again didn't need to play with the dates.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Alan Edwards <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote:

> It may not time out. It didn't for me and I don't see why it should,
> (but someone may tell me), looking at control.htm
>
> I have used it on two computers after the supposed time out date and
> had no trouble. Both were offline at the time and that may be a
> factor.
>
> Are you really sure you need this CD?
> I have used it on computers with no internet connection or a slow
> dial-up line but I haven't seen any need to use it on any computers
> that have had access to Windows Update and hence don't need the CD.
Anonymous
January 31, 2005 7:55:42 PM

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Perhaps only the NT, W2K, XP side of the family times out for this 2004
Security Update CD?
Those with a Virtual PC copy of XP may wish to check.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul...
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
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"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:eM7R2J5BFHA.2608@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I used the CD without problem on a clean install of 98SE last weekend for
> a friend who only has slow dial-up access to the net and had no date
> problems, just prior to that I tested it for myself on virgin Win Me
> install in a virtual PC and again didn't need to play with the dates.
> --
> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Alan Edwards <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote:
>
> > It may not time out. It didn't for me and I don't see why it should,
> > (but someone may tell me), looking at control.htm
> >
> > I have used it on two computers after the supposed time out date and
> > had no trouble. Both were offline at the time and that may be a
> > factor.
> >
> > Are you really sure you need this CD?
> > I have used it on computers with no internet connection or a slow
> > dial-up line but I haven't seen any need to use it on any computers
> > that have had access to Windows Update and hence don't need the CD.
>
Anonymous
January 31, 2005 10:10:59 PM

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This is so. The 2K/XP side times out, the 9x side does not.

Maybe this means Microsoft still loves Windows Me?

:-)

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* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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"Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
news:ubR9Cg5BFHA.2984@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Perhaps only the NT, W2K, XP side of the family times out for this 2004
> Security Update CD?
> Those with a Virtual PC copy of XP may wish to check.
> --
> Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul...
> Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> ------
> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:eM7R2J5BFHA.2608@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> I used the CD without problem on a clean install of 98SE last weekend for
>> a friend who only has slow dial-up access to the net and had no date
>> problems, just prior to that I tested it for myself on virgin Win Me
>> install in a virtual PC and again didn't need to play with the dates.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
>> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Alan Edwards <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> > It may not time out. It didn't for me and I don't see why it should,
>> > (but someone may tell me), looking at control.htm
>> >
>> > I have used it on two computers after the supposed time out date and
>> > had no trouble. Both were offline at the time and that may be a
>> > factor.
>> >
>> > Are you really sure you need this CD?
>> > I have used it on computers with no internet connection or a slow
>> > dial-up line but I haven't seen any need to use it on any computers
>> > that have had access to Windows Update and hence don't need the CD.
>>
>
>
February 1, 2005 4:20:20 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

Well, I'm glad you lot have added this. I really didn't want to re-install
just to test this and thought I could go by OCD Greg's claim that it no
longer works in Win 98.

(I don't want to re-install Win 98 either).


Shane


"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:et4hGK$BFHA.868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> This is so. The 2K/XP side times out, the 9x side does not.
>
> Maybe this means Microsoft still loves Windows Me?
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
> news:ubR9Cg5BFHA.2984@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Perhaps only the NT, W2K, XP side of the family times out for this 2004
> > Security Update CD?
> > Those with a Virtual PC copy of XP may wish to check.
> > --
> > Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> > Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul...
> > Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> > ------
> > "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> > news:eM7R2J5BFHA.2608@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> I used the CD without problem on a clean install of 98SE last weekend
for
> >> a friend who only has slow dial-up access to the net and had no date
> >> problems, just prior to that I tested it for myself on virgin Win Me
> >> install in a virtual PC and again didn't need to play with the dates.
> >> --
> >> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> >> mike.maltby@gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan Edwards <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> > It may not time out. It didn't for me and I don't see why it should,
> >> > (but someone may tell me), looking at control.htm
> >> >
> >> > I have used it on two computers after the supposed time out date and
> >> > had no trouble. Both were offline at the time and that may be a
> >> > factor.
> >> >
> >> > Are you really sure you need this CD?
> >> > I have used it on computers with no internet connection or a slow
> >> > dial-up line but I haven't seen any need to use it on any computers
> >> > that have had access to Windows Update and hence don't need the CD.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
February 1, 2005 4:27:52 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

FWIW, I have tried it on both Win98 and Win Me since it supposedly
expires.
No problems.
Yes, I followed the thread in Win98.gen_discussion for a while though
I soon gave up.

....Alan

--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Shane"
<arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Well, I'm glad you lot have added this. I really didn't want to re-install
>just to test this and thought I could go by OCD Greg's claim that it no
>longer works in Win 98.
>
>(I don't want to re-install Win 98 either).
>
>
>Shane
>
>
>"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
>news:et4hGK$BFHA.868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> This is so. The 2K/XP side times out, the 9x side does not.
>>
>> Maybe this means Microsoft still loves Windows Me?
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
>> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
>> news:ubR9Cg5BFHA.2984@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > Perhaps only the NT, W2K, XP side of the family times out for this 2004
>> > Security Update CD?
>> > Those with a Virtual PC copy of XP may wish to check.
>> > --
>> > Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
>> > Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
>> >
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul...
>> > Your cooperation is very appreciated.
>> > ------
>> > "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
>> > news:eM7R2J5BFHA.2608@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >> I used the CD without problem on a clean install of 98SE last weekend
>for
>> >> a friend who only has slow dial-up access to the net and had no date
>> >> problems, just prior to that I tested it for myself on virgin Win Me
>> >> install in a virtual PC and again didn't need to play with the dates.
>> >> --
>> >> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
>> >> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Alan Edwards <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It may not time out. It didn't for me and I don't see why it should,
>> >> > (but someone may tell me), looking at control.htm
>> >> >
>> >> > I have used it on two computers after the supposed time out date and
>> >> > had no trouble. Both were offline at the time and that may be a
>> >> > factor.
>> >> >
>> >> > Are you really sure you need this CD?
>> >> > I have used it on computers with no internet connection or a slow
>> >> > dial-up line but I haven't seen any need to use it on any computers
>> >> > that have had access to Windows Update and hence don't need the CD.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
Anonymous
February 1, 2005 4:27:53 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

I suspect MS's reasoning is that there are so few, and only critical
updates, for the Win9X side that older updates are less of an issue, while
the XP side has numerous critical updates, so it is preferable to obtain the
most recent cumulative updates to be fully protected and effective.
But Bill doesn't tell me anything useful anymore <bg>.

Thanks for reporting, Richard. I consider it good news.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul...
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Alan Edwards" <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote in message
news:5tptv0d0lk2d7dcc2o2nmirh8u0roq58ql@4ax.com...
> FWIW, I have tried it on both Win98 and Win Me since it supposedly
> expires.
> No problems.
> Yes, I followed the thread in Win98.gen_discussion for a while though
> I soon gave up.
>
> ...Alan
>
> --
> Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
> In microsoft.public.windowsme.general, "Shane"
> <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Well, I'm glad you lot have added this. I really didn't want to
re-install
> >just to test this and thought I could go by OCD Greg's claim that it no
> >longer works in Win 98.
> >
> >(I don't want to re-install Win 98 either).
> >
> >
> >Shane
> >
> >
> >"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> >news:et4hGK$BFHA.868@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> This is so. The 2K/XP side times out, the 9x side does not.
> >>
> >> Maybe this means Microsoft still loves Windows Me?
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jack E Martinelli" <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote in message
> >> news:ubR9Cg5BFHA.2984@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> > Perhaps only the NT, W2K, XP side of the family times out for this
2004
> >> > Security Update CD?
> >> > Those with a Virtual PC copy of XP may wish to check.
> >> > --
> >> > Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
> >> > Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
> >> >
> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul...
> >> > Your cooperation is very appreciated.
> >> > ------
> >> > "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> >> > news:eM7R2J5BFHA.2608@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> >> I used the CD without problem on a clean install of 98SE last
weekend
> >for
> >> >> a friend who only has slow dial-up access to the net and had no date
> >> >> problems, just prior to that I tested it for myself on virgin Win Me
> >> >> install in a virtual PC and again didn't need to play with the
dates.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> >> >> mike.maltby@gmail.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Alan Edwards <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > It may not time out. It didn't for me and I don't see why it
should,
> >> >> > (but someone may tell me), looking at control.htm
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have used it on two computers after the supposed time out date
and
> >> >> > had no trouble. Both were offline at the time and that may be a
> >> >> > factor.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Are you really sure you need this CD?
> >> >> > I have used it on computers with no internet connection or a slow
> >> >> > dial-up line but I haven't seen any need to use it on any
computers
> >> >> > that have had access to Windows Update and hence don't need the
CD.
> >> >>
> >> >
Anonymous
February 1, 2005 4:27:54 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

XP's SP2 was known to be arriving during 2004 so limiting the time scale
during which the security update CD could be used on systems running XP
was, with hindsight, probably to be expected. Sadly the same logic
doesn't explain why Microsoft might have limited the use of the CD with
systems running W2K where SP4 had already been released.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Jack E Martinelli <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote:

> I suspect MS's reasoning is that there are so few, and only critical
> updates, for the Win9X side that older updates are less of an issue,
> while the XP side has numerous critical updates, so it is preferable
> to obtain the most recent cumulative updates to be fully protected
> and effective.
> But Bill doesn't tell me anything useful anymore <bg>.
>
> Thanks for reporting, Richard. I consider it good news.
..
Anonymous
February 1, 2005 4:27:55 PM

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I agree: Does this mean that "management" listens to you about as well as
to me?

Most errors like this are simply due to oversight under extreme time
pressures, and are not the result of careful consideration.
The unintended consequences thing ...
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul...
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:uojojqECFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> XP's SP2 was known to be arriving during 2004 so limiting the time scale
> during which the security update CD could be used on systems running XP
> was, with hindsight, probably to be expected. Sadly the same logic
> doesn't explain why Microsoft might have limited the use of the CD with
> systems running W2K where SP4 had already been released.
> --
> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Jack E Martinelli <jemartin_DELETE@NO_SPAM_gis.net> wrote:
>
> > I suspect MS's reasoning is that there are so few, and only critical
> > updates, for the Win9X side that older updates are less of an issue,
> > while the XP side has numerous critical updates, so it is preferable
> > to obtain the most recent cumulative updates to be fully protected
> > and effective.
> > But Bill doesn't tell me anything useful anymore <bg>.
> >
> > Thanks for reporting, Richard. I consider it good news.
> .
>
!