Help for boot up failure...

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Hi,

I have run this through the Asus NG without a bite. Hope someone here can
help.

I have a spare (old) machine running ME and kept for hardware that XP won't
run.

It has a K7V-T motherboard which recently only boots through to "Award Plug
and
Play BIOS Extension v1.0a" then stops.

I have cleared the CMOS, changed the battery, checked/changed cables to the
hard disk without any effect.

Has anyone any idea where I might look, or what has gone down?

TIA.. Mo..
 
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:15:14 +1100 It was a dark and stormy night when
"Mo" <nospam@notobeseen.com> wrote :

>Hi,
>
>I have run this through the Asus NG without a bite. Hope someone here can
>help.
>
>I have a spare (old) machine running ME and kept for hardware that XP won't
>run.
>
>It has a K7V-T motherboard which recently only boots through to "Award Plug
>and
>Play BIOS Extension v1.0a" then stops.
>
>I have cleared the CMOS, changed the battery, checked/changed cables to the
>hard disk without any effect.
>
>Has anyone any idea where I might look, or what has gone down?
>
>TIA.. Mo..
>
>

Make sure there is no power to the board and then clear the CMOS
again.You cannot fully clear the BIOS on an ATX powered system(if
that's what it is) with power to the board as a residual current is
applied to the CMOS.
HTH :)



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Mo wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have run this through the Asus NG without a bite. Hope someone here can
> help.
>
> I have a spare (old) machine running ME and kept for hardware that XP won't
> run.
>
> It has a K7V-T motherboard which recently only boots through to "Award Plug
> and
> Play BIOS Extension v1.0a" then stops.
>
> I have cleared the CMOS, changed the battery, checked/changed cables to the
> hard disk without any effect.
>
> Has anyone any idea where I might look, or what has gone down?
>
> TIA.. Mo..

Unplug all cards and drives, leaving only the CPU, one mem stick, and video
card, and see if you can get into the BIOS that way.

Then add them back in one at a time to see which is the problem.
 

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I have had the machine lying unplugged from power and without the battery
for several days .. shouldn't that have cleared the CMOS?


"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:15:14 +1100 It was a dark and stormy night when
"Mo" <nospam@notobeseen.com> wrote :

>Hi,
>
>I have run this through the Asus NG without a bite. Hope someone here can
>help.
>
>I have a spare (old) machine running ME and kept for hardware that XP won't
>run.
>
>It has a K7V-T motherboard which recently only boots through to "Award
>Plug
>and
>Play BIOS Extension v1.0a" then stops.
>
>I have cleared the CMOS, changed the battery, checked/changed cables to the
>hard disk without any effect.
>
>Has anyone any idea where I might look, or what has gone down?
>
>TIA.. Mo..
>
>

Make sure there is no power to the board and then clear the CMOS
again.You cannot fully clear the BIOS on an ATX powered system(if
that's what it is) with power to the board as a residual current is
applied to the CMOS.
HTH :)



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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:36:14 +1100 It was a dark and stormy night when
"Mo" <nospam@notobeseen.com> wrote :

>I have had the machine lying unplugged from power and without the battery
>for several days .. shouldn't that have cleared the CMOS?

Yes :/
You can try re-flashing the BIOS.Have you tried powering the board up
out of the case so it doesn't ground to the case?



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I have had the M/B running in that case for about 4 years.. nothing happened
physically to the case before it went on the blink.. how can I flash the
bios when I can't get to see a drive/floppy?

Thanks for your suggestions


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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:36:14 +1100 It was a dark and stormy night when
"Mo" <nospam@notobeseen.com> wrote :

>I have had the machine lying unplugged from power and without the battery
>for several days .. shouldn't that have cleared the CMOS?

Yes :/
You can try re-flashing the BIOS.Have you tried powering the board up
out of the case so it doesn't ground to the case?



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I managed to get into the bios... it looks as though the boot sequence is
corrupted.. only shows floppy and won't change.. I have downloaded the bios
program and a floppy won't boot up.. I'm thinking now of having the chip
flashed out of the M/B.


"David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
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Mo wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have run this through the Asus NG without a bite. Hope someone here can
> help.
>
> I have a spare (old) machine running ME and kept for hardware that XP
> won't
> run.
>
> It has a K7V-T motherboard which recently only boots through to "Award
> Plug
> and
> Play BIOS Extension v1.0a" then stops.
>
> I have cleared the CMOS, changed the battery, checked/changed cables to
> the
> hard disk without any effect.
>
> Has anyone any idea where I might look, or what has gone down?
>
> TIA.. Mo..

Unplug all cards and drives, leaving only the CPU, one mem stick, and video
card, and see if you can get into the BIOS that way.

Then add them back in one at a time to see which is the problem.
 
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Mo wrote:

> I managed to get into the bios...

How?

> it looks as though the boot sequence is
> corrupted.. only shows floppy and won't change..

Maybe because it isn't seeing anything else.

> I have downloaded the bios
> program and a floppy won't boot up.. I'm thinking now of having the chip
> flashed out of the M/B.

I'd be more inclined to think it's either cables (bad or plugged in wrong),
drive jumpers, bad floppy, bad CD, or a bad hard drive.

>
>
> "David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:10p306cqjn4osd3@corp.supernews.com...
> Mo wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have run this through the Asus NG without a bite. Hope someone here can
>>help.
>>
>>I have a spare (old) machine running ME and kept for hardware that XP
>>won't
>>run.
>>
>>It has a K7V-T motherboard which recently only boots through to "Award
>>Plug
>>and
>>Play BIOS Extension v1.0a" then stops.
>>
>>I have cleared the CMOS, changed the battery, checked/changed cables to
>>the
>>hard disk without any effect.
>>
>>Has anyone any idea where I might look, or what has gone down?
>>
>>TIA.. Mo..
>
>
> Unplug all cards and drives, leaving only the CPU, one mem stick, and video
> card, and see if you can get into the BIOS that way.
>
> Then add them back in one at a time to see which is the problem.
>
>
>
 

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Hi David,

I just sat tapping delete as it booted... the screen flashed and the bios
came up.. it only did that twice though.

The main section saw both hard discs, the other info was correct. the boot
section only showed Floppy as 1st drive.. and greyed out IDE for the other..
I couldn't change anything .. then I found I was locked in that section. I
had to power down to get out.

As it showed 'boot to floppy' I tried to boot with a floppy loaded with a
flash update. it still wouldn't boot.

I tried the drives in another machine for recognition I changed cables and
checked memory although the was coming up OK in the boot.

Only left me with the idea that the bios had got corrupted. I don't want to
lose the info on this machine so I'll try the replacement or reflashed BIOS.



"David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:10p38jcnvlpq71f@corp.supernews.com...
Mo wrote:

> I managed to get into the bios...

How?

> it looks as though the boot sequence is
> corrupted.. only shows floppy and won't change..

Maybe because it isn't seeing anything else.

> I have downloaded the bios
> program and a floppy won't boot up.. I'm thinking now of having the chip
> flashed out of the M/B.

I'd be more inclined to think it's either cables (bad or plugged in wrong),
drive jumpers, bad floppy, bad CD, or a bad hard drive.

>
>
> "David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:10p306cqjn4osd3@corp.supernews.com...
> Mo wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have run this through the Asus NG without a bite. Hope someone here can
>>help.
>>
>>I have a spare (old) machine running ME and kept for hardware that XP
>>won't
>>run.
>>
>>It has a K7V-T motherboard which recently only boots through to "Award
>>Plug
>>and
>>Play BIOS Extension v1.0a" then stops.
>>
>>I have cleared the CMOS, changed the battery, checked/changed cables to
>>the
>>hard disk without any effect.
>>
>>Has anyone any idea where I might look, or what has gone down?
>>
>>TIA.. Mo..
>
>
> Unplug all cards and drives, leaving only the CPU, one mem stick, and
> video
> card, and see if you can get into the BIOS that way.
>
> Then add them back in one at a time to see which is the problem.
>
>
>
 
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Mo wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> I just sat tapping delete as it booted... the screen flashed and the bios
> came up.. it only did that twice though.
>
> The main section saw both hard discs, the other info was correct. the boot
> section only showed Floppy as 1st drive.. and greyed out IDE for the other..
> I couldn't change anything .. then I found I was locked in that section. I
> had to power down to get out.
>
> As it showed 'boot to floppy' I tried to boot with a floppy loaded with a
> flash update. it still wouldn't boot.
>
> I tried the drives in another machine for recognition I changed cables and
> checked memory although the was coming up OK in the boot.

And how did the K7V-T behave with the drives disconnected?

>
> Only left me with the idea that the bios had got corrupted. I don't want to
> lose the info on this machine so I'll try the replacement or reflashed BIOS.

Anything is possible but it's rare for a BIOS to just 'change' on it's own.

> "David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:10p38jcnvlpq71f@corp.supernews.com...
> Mo wrote:
>
>
>>I managed to get into the bios...
>
>
> How?
>
>
>>it looks as though the boot sequence is
>>corrupted.. only shows floppy and won't change..
>
>
> Maybe because it isn't seeing anything else.
>
>
>>I have downloaded the bios
>>program and a floppy won't boot up.. I'm thinking now of having the chip
>>flashed out of the M/B.
>
>
> I'd be more inclined to think it's either cables (bad or plugged in wrong),
> drive jumpers, bad floppy, bad CD, or a bad hard drive.
>
>
>>
>>"David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
>>news:10p306cqjn4osd3@corp.supernews.com...
>>Mo wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I have run this through the Asus NG without a bite. Hope someone here can
>>>help.
>>>
>>>I have a spare (old) machine running ME and kept for hardware that XP
>>>won't
>>>run.
>>>
>>>It has a K7V-T motherboard which recently only boots through to "Award
>>>Plug
>>>and
>>>Play BIOS Extension v1.0a" then stops.
>>>
>>>I have cleared the CMOS, changed the battery, checked/changed cables to
>>>the
>>>hard disk without any effect.
>>>
>>>Has anyone any idea where I might look, or what has gone down?
>>>
>>>TIA.. Mo..
>>
>>
>>Unplug all cards and drives, leaving only the CPU, one mem stick, and
>>video
>>card, and see if you can get into the BIOS that way.
>>
>>Then add them back in one at a time to see which is the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
 
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:20:36 +1100 It was a dark and stormy night when
"Mo" <nospam@notobeseen.com> wrote :

>I have had the M/B running in that case for about 4 years.. nothing happened
>physically to the case before it went on the blink.. how can I flash the
>bios when I can't get to see a drive/floppy?
>
>Thanks for your suggestions

Have you tried powering the board up
out of the case so it doesn't ground to the case?



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