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November 19, 2004 4:45:27 AM

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Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used to have on my
main machine and am having problems. The system sends no signal to the
monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't used the
motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the motherboard is dead?
Thanks

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Anonymous
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November 19, 2004 4:45:28 AM

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"Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used to have on my
> main machine and am having problems. The system sends no signal to the
> monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't used the
> motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the motherboard is dead?
> Thanks
>
>

Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common complaint is "no
video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the basics. When
you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .

- CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and mainboard and CPU
must be good)
- CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS (mainboard, CPU and RAM
must be good)
- After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point, you might get
video, showing various hardware detected and system checking RAM)
- Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order stored in CMOS

You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video card is not
getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or not finishing
POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps) then you need to
start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your power supply
isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard are set properly.
Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely. Most likely,
you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly installed. -Dave
Anonymous
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November 19, 2004 4:59:57 AM

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Peter:

> Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used to have on my
> main machine and am having problems. The system sends no signal to the
> monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't used the
> motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the motherboard is dead?

what are the components?

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November 19, 2004 5:20:59 AM

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All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed the CPU fan,
turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting hot, so I
guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no beeps when I
turn it on....
Thanks


"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used to have on my
> > main machine and am having problems. The system sends no signal to the
> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't used the
> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the motherboard is dead?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>
> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common complaint is "no
> video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the basics. When
> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
>
> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and mainboard and
CPU
> must be good)
> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS (mainboard, CPU and
RAM
> must be good)
> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point, you might get
> video, showing various hardware detected and system checking RAM)
> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order stored in CMOS
>
> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video card is not
> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or not finishing
> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps) then you need to
> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your power supply
> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard are set
properly.
> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely. Most likely,
> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly installed. -Dave
>
>
Anonymous
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November 19, 2004 5:23:12 AM

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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed on the blade's
edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :

>All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed the CPU fan,
>turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting hot, so I
>guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no beeps when I
>turn it on....
>Thanks

Take the board out of the system and try powering it up to check that
it's not grounding to the case.
Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery and then clear
the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
HTH :) 



>
>"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
>news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
>>
>> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used to have on my
>> > main machine and am having problems. The system sends no signal to the
>> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't used the
>> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the motherboard is dead?
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common complaint is "no
>> video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the basics. When
>> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
>>
>> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and mainboard and
>CPU
>> must be good)
>> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS (mainboard, CPU and
>RAM
>> must be good)
>> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point, you might get
>> video, showing various hardware detected and system checking RAM)
>> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order stored in CMOS
>>
>> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video card is not
>> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or not finishing
>> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps) then you need to
>> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your power supply
>> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard are set
>properly.
>> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely. Most likely,
>> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly installed. -Dave
>>
>>
>



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November 19, 2004 5:31:40 AM

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I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I haven't used this board in
over a year. Could the battery lose its charge?


"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed on the blade's
> edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
>
> >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed the CPU fan,
> >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting hot, so I
> >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no beeps when I
> >turn it on....
> >Thanks
>
> Take the board out of the system and try powering it up to check that
> it's not grounding to the case.
> Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery and then clear
> the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
> HTH :) 
>
>
>
> >
> >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
> >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >>
> >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used to have on
my
> >> > main machine and am having problems. The system sends no signal to
the
> >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't used
the
> >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the motherboard is dead?
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common complaint is
"no
> >> video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the basics.
When
> >> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
> >>
> >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and mainboard
and
> >CPU
> >> must be good)
> >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS (mainboard, CPU
and
> >RAM
> >> must be good)
> >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point, you might
get
> >> video, showing various hardware detected and system checking RAM)
> >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order stored in CMOS
> >>
> >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video card is not
> >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or not
finishing
> >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps) then you need
to
> >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your power
supply
> >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard are set
> >properly.
> >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely. Most
likely,
> >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly installed. -Dave
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Free Windows/PC help,
> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> remove obvious to reply
> email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
November 19, 2004 5:31:41 AM

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Could the battery lose its charge?


yes


"Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I haven't used this
board in
> over a year. ?
>
>
> "Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:i6mqp0d35mrrpm27c8nv7gs7lnngq7f8u9@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed on the
blade's
> > edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> >
> > >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed the
CPU fan,
> > >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting
hot, so I
> > >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no beeps
when I
> > >turn it on....
> > >Thanks
> >
> > Take the board out of the system and try powering it up to check
that
> > it's not grounding to the case.
> > Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery and then
clear
> > the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
> > HTH :) 
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
> > >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >>
> > >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used to
have on
> my
> > >> > main machine and am having problems. The system sends no
signal to
> the
> > >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't
used
> the
> > >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the motherboard
is dead?
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common
complaint is
> "no
> > >> video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the
basics.
> When
> > >> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
> > >>
> > >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and
mainboard
> and
> > >CPU
> > >> must be good)
> > >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS
(mainboard, CPU
> and
> > >RAM
> > >> must be good)
> > >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point,
you might
> get
> > >> video, showing various hardware detected and system checking
RAM)
> > >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order stored
in CMOS
> > >>
> > >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video card
is not
> > >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or
not
> finishing
> > >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps) then
you need
> to
> > >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your
power
> supply
> > >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard are
set
> > >properly.
> > >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely.
Most
> likely,
> > >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly installed. -Dave
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Free Windows/PC help,
> > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > remove obvious to reply
> > email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
>
>
Anonymous
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November 19, 2004 5:56:28 AM

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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:31:40 GMT The moonlight laughed on the blade's
edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :

>I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I haven't used this board in
>over a year. Could the battery lose its charge?

Yes.ATX powered systems have a residual current applied across the
CMOS battery when the power supply is plugged into the back of the
system even if the system isn't on.This keeps a trickle charge to the
battery.Depending on the state of the battery it may accept a charge
however for the cost of a new one it's not worth the hassle.
The most common are the 2032 and you can get them loads of places even
ADSA/Wallmart/Staples office supplies chains etc.



>
>"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>news:i6mqp0d35mrrpm27c8nv7gs7lnngq7f8u9@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed on the blade's
>> edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
>>
>> >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed the CPU fan,
>> >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting hot, so I
>> >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no beeps when I
>> >turn it on....
>> >Thanks
>>
>> Take the board out of the system and try powering it up to check that
>> it's not grounding to the case.
>> Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery and then clear
>> the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
>> HTH :) 
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
>> >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
>> >>
>> >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used to have on
>my
>> >> > main machine and am having problems. The system sends no signal to
>the
>> >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't used
>the
>> >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the motherboard is dead?
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common complaint is
>"no
>> >> video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the basics.
>When
>> >> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
>> >>
>> >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and mainboard
>and
>> >CPU
>> >> must be good)
>> >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS (mainboard, CPU
>and
>> >RAM
>> >> must be good)
>> >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point, you might
>get
>> >> video, showing various hardware detected and system checking RAM)
>> >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order stored in CMOS
>> >>
>> >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video card is not
>> >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or not
>finishing
>> >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps) then you need
>to
>> >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your power
>supply
>> >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard are set
>> >properly.
>> >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely. Most
>likely,
>> >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly installed. -Dave
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Free Windows/PC help,
>> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
>> remove obvious to reply
>> email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
>> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
>> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
>



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http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
remove obvious to reply
email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
November 19, 2004 5:56:35 AM

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and where can I buy one?
Thanks


"JAD" <Kapasitor@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:10pqmttfqmi01@corp.supernews.com...
> Could the battery lose its charge?
>
>
> yes
>
>
> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:gWcnd.4779$pK6.898@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I haven't used this
> board in
> > over a year. ?
> >
> >
> > "Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > news:i6mqp0d35mrrpm27c8nv7gs7lnngq7f8u9@4ax.com...
> > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed on the
> blade's
> > > edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > >
> > > >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed the
> CPU fan,
> > > >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting
> hot, so I
> > > >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no beeps
> when I
> > > >turn it on....
> > > >Thanks
> > >
> > > Take the board out of the system and try powering it up to check
> that
> > > it's not grounding to the case.
> > > Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery and then
> clear
> > > the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
> > > HTH :) 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >>
> > > >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used to
> have on
> > my
> > > >> > main machine and am having problems. The system sends no
> signal to
> > the
> > > >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't
> used
> > the
> > > >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the motherboard
> is dead?
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common
> complaint is
> > "no
> > > >> video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the
> basics.
> > When
> > > >> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
> > > >>
> > > >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and
> mainboard
> > and
> > > >CPU
> > > >> must be good)
> > > >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS
> (mainboard, CPU
> > and
> > > >RAM
> > > >> must be good)
> > > >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point,
> you might
> > get
> > > >> video, showing various hardware detected and system checking
> RAM)
> > > >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order stored
> in CMOS
> > > >>
> > > >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video card
> is not
> > > >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or
> not
> > finishing
> > > >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps) then
> you need
> > to
> > > >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your
> power
> > supply
> > > >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard are
> set
> > > >properly.
> > > >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely.
> Most
> > likely,
> > > >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly installed. -Dave
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Free Windows/PC help,
> > > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > remove obvious to reply
> > > email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> >
> >
>
>
November 19, 2004 6:36:52 AM

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Ok. I changed the battery (took one from another system that worked 5 min
ago), reset CMOS settings, took the MB out of the case, and powered it up.
All fans were working but once again there was no beep and no signs of life
on the monitor. Any ideas?
Thanks

"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:b1oqp0dbkj2orvkc9n1gg0dhibh3coilue@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:31:40 GMT The moonlight laughed on the blade's
> edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
>
> >I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I haven't used this board
in
> >over a year. Could the battery lose its charge?
>
> Yes.ATX powered systems have a residual current applied across the
> CMOS battery when the power supply is plugged into the back of the
> system even if the system isn't on.This keeps a trickle charge to the
> battery.Depending on the state of the battery it may accept a charge
> however for the cost of a new one it's not worth the hassle.
> The most common are the 2032 and you can get them loads of places even
> ADSA/Wallmart/Staples office supplies chains etc.
>
>
>
> >
> >"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> >news:i6mqp0d35mrrpm27c8nv7gs7lnngq7f8u9@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed on the blade's
> >> edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> >>
> >> >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed the CPU
fan,
> >> >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting hot, so
I
> >> >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no beeps when
I
> >> >turn it on....
> >> >Thanks
> >>
> >> Take the board out of the system and try powering it up to check that
> >> it's not grounding to the case.
> >> Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery and then clear
> >> the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
> >> HTH :) 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >> >>
> >> >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >> >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used to have
on
> >my
> >> >> > main machine and am having problems. The system sends no signal to
> >the
> >> >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't used
> >the
> >> >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the motherboard is
dead?
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common complaint
is
> >"no
> >> >> video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the basics.
> >When
> >> >> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
> >> >>
> >> >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and mainboard
> >and
> >> >CPU
> >> >> must be good)
> >> >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS (mainboard, CPU
> >and
> >> >RAM
> >> >> must be good)
> >> >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point, you
might
> >get
> >> >> video, showing various hardware detected and system checking RAM)
> >> >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order stored in
CMOS
> >> >>
> >> >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video card is
not
> >> >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or not
> >finishing
> >> >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps) then you
need
> >to
> >> >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your power
> >supply
> >> >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard are set
> >> >properly.
> >> >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely. Most
> >likely,
> >> >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly installed. -Dave
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Free Windows/PC help,
> >> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> >> remove obvious to reply
> >> email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> >> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Free Windows/PC help,
> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> remove obvious to reply
> email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
November 19, 2004 6:36:53 AM

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integrated graphics? Or PCI card.
Integrated make sure its enabled in the bios
PCI - move it to another slot.
If the machine has been sitting for a while, remove all cards and
memory and reseat them.



"Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:o Tdnd.4824$pK6.3217@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Ok. I changed the battery (took one from another system that worked
5 min
> ago), reset CMOS settings, took the MB out of the case, and powered
it up.
> All fans were working but once again there was no beep and no signs
of life
> on the monitor. Any ideas?
> Thanks
>
> "Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:b1oqp0dbkj2orvkc9n1gg0dhibh3coilue@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:31:40 GMT The moonlight laughed on the
blade's
> > edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> >
> > >I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I haven't used this
board
> in
> > >over a year. Could the battery lose its charge?
> >
> > Yes.ATX powered systems have a residual current applied across the
> > CMOS battery when the power supply is plugged into the back of the
> > system even if the system isn't on.This keeps a trickle charge to
the
> > battery.Depending on the state of the battery it may accept a
charge
> > however for the cost of a new one it's not worth the hassle.
> > The most common are the 2032 and you can get them loads of places
even
> > ADSA/Wallmart/Staples office supplies chains etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > >news:i6mqp0d35mrrpm27c8nv7gs7lnngq7f8u9@4ax.com...
> > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed on the
blade's
> > >> edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > >>
> > >> >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed
the CPU
> fan,
> > >> >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting
hot, so
> I
> > >> >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no
beeps when
> I
> > >> >turn it on....
> > >> >Thanks
> > >>
> > >> Take the board out of the system and try powering it up to
check that
> > >> it's not grounding to the case.
> > >> Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery and then
clear
> > >> the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
> > >> HTH :) 
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
> > >> >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > >> >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used
to have
> on
> > >my
> > >> >> > main machine and am having problems. The system sends no
signal to
> > >the
> > >> >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I
haven't used
> > >the
> > >> >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the
motherboard is
> dead?
> > >> >> > Thanks
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common
complaint
> is
> > >"no
> > >> >> video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the
basics.
> > >When
> > >> >> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and
mainboard
> > >and
> > >> >CPU
> > >> >> must be good)
> > >> >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS
(mainboard, CPU
> > >and
> > >> >RAM
> > >> >> must be good)
> > >> >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point,
you
> might
> > >get
> > >> >> video, showing various hardware detected and system checking
RAM)
> > >> >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order
stored in
> CMOS
> > >> >>
> > >> >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video
card is
> not
> > >> >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or
not
> > >finishing
> > >> >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps)
then you
> need
> > >to
> > >> >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your
power
> > >supply
> > >> >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard
are set
> > >> >properly.
> > >> >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely.
Most
> > >likely,
> > >> >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly
nstalled. -Dave
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Free Windows/PC help,
> > >> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > >> remove obvious to reply
> > >> email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > >> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Free Windows/PC help,
> > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > remove obvious to reply
> > email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
>
>
November 19, 2004 8:07:09 AM

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It's an AGP card - Albratron nVidia FX5600 128MB. I've tried replacing
cards, taking out the memory - same results....

"JAD" <Kapasitor@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:10pquaj2rg5k90e@corp.supernews.com...
> integrated graphics? Or PCI card.
> Integrated make sure its enabled in the bios
> PCI - move it to another slot.
> If the machine has been sitting for a while, remove all cards and
> memory and reseat them.
>
>
>
> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:o Tdnd.4824$pK6.3217@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > Ok. I changed the battery (took one from another system that worked
> 5 min
> > ago), reset CMOS settings, took the MB out of the case, and powered
> it up.
> > All fans were working but once again there was no beep and no signs
> of life
> > on the monitor. Any ideas?
> > Thanks
> >
> > "Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > news:b1oqp0dbkj2orvkc9n1gg0dhibh3coilue@4ax.com...
> > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:31:40 GMT The moonlight laughed on the
> blade's
> > > edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > >
> > > >I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I haven't used this
> board
> > in
> > > >over a year. Could the battery lose its charge?
> > >
> > > Yes.ATX powered systems have a residual current applied across the
> > > CMOS battery when the power supply is plugged into the back of the
> > > system even if the system isn't on.This keeps a trickle charge to
> the
> > > battery.Depending on the state of the battery it may accept a
> charge
> > > however for the cost of a new one it's not worth the hassle.
> > > The most common are the 2032 and you can get them loads of places
> even
> > > ADSA/Wallmart/Staples office supplies chains etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:i6mqp0d35mrrpm27c8nv7gs7lnngq7f8u9@4ax.com...
> > > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed on the
> blade's
> > > >> edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > > >>
> > > >> >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed
> the CPU
> > fan,
> > > >> >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting
> hot, so
> > I
> > > >> >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no
> beeps when
> > I
> > > >> >turn it on....
> > > >> >Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> Take the board out of the system and try powering it up to
> check that
> > > >> it's not grounding to the case.
> > > >> Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery and then
> clear
> > > >> the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
> > > >> HTH :) 
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > >> >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used
> to have
> > on
> > > >my
> > > >> >> > main machine and am having problems. The system sends no
> signal to
> > > >the
> > > >> >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I
> haven't used
> > > >the
> > > >> >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the
> motherboard is
> > dead?
> > > >> >> > Thanks
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common
> complaint
> > is
> > > >"no
> > > >> >> video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the
> basics.
> > > >When
> > > >> >> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and
> mainboard
> > > >and
> > > >> >CPU
> > > >> >> must be good)
> > > >> >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS
> (mainboard, CPU
> > > >and
> > > >> >RAM
> > > >> >> must be good)
> > > >> >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point,
> you
> > might
> > > >get
> > > >> >> video, showing various hardware detected and system checking
> RAM)
> > > >> >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order
> stored in
> > CMOS
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video
> card is
> > not
> > > >> >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or
> not
> > > >finishing
> > > >> >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps)
> then you
> > need
> > > >to
> > > >> >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your
> power
> > > >supply
> > > >> >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard
> are set
> > > >> >properly.
> > > >> >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely.
> Most
> > > >likely,
> > > >> >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly
> nstalled. -Dave
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Free Windows/PC help,
> > > >> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > >> remove obvious to reply
> > > >> email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > >> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Free Windows/PC help,
> > > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > remove obvious to reply
> > > email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
a b V Motherboard
November 19, 2004 9:54:25 AM

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After reading all the posts, I have to say it is very very likely the mb is
dead.
Do you have another mb? try to same video card on the mb and test it.

"Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó·s»D
:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used to have on my
> main machine and am having problems. The system sends no signal to the
> monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't used the
> motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the motherboard is dead?
> Thanks
>
>
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
a b V Motherboard
November 19, 2004 3:39:28 PM

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"Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

> I decided to build a system from the components I used to have on my
> main machine and am having problems. The system sends no signal to the
> monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I haven't used the
> motherboard in over a year.

Is the motherboard shorted to the case because of a missing fiber
washer or support?

Did you damage it with static electricity? What anti-static
precautions did you take -- work barefoot, have everything on an
anti-static surface, wear an anti-static wrist strap and use it
properly?

Try hitting the reset button several times.

You can check for signs of life with an AM radio tuned to a dead spot
and
held next to the motherboard, and the interference should change sound
as the computer goes through its power-on tests or when you hit the
reset button. The radio may have to be tuned to various dead spots
and tried in different positions and orientations to pick up anything,
and you want the monitor to be turned off because it creates a great
deal of interference itself.

AGP video cards can easily pull out of their sockets from slight
movement of the case, but that alone should cause the computer to beep
on boot.

> All fans are working, so the power supply is fine.

The correct conclusion is: since all fans are working, the power
supply isn't 100% dead because spinning fans only indicate the +12V
output is putting out enough voltage to spin the fans, or at least
4-6V. You should measure all the voltages to verify that the positive
ones are all within 5% of nominal values (negative voltages are
irrelevant).

> I removed the CPU fan, turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU
> started getting hot, so I guess the motherboard is not dead.

I hope you mean you removed only the fan and not the heatsink. which
can destroy AMD CPUs in 1 second.

The CMOS battery isn't necessary to make the computer boot, but you
can buy one from any place that sells wristwatch or calculator
batteries, $1-3, with Fry's may being among the cheapest.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
a b V Motherboard
November 19, 2004 5:34:27 PM

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"Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:fMcnd.4768$pK6.1560@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed the CPU fan,
> turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting hot, so I
> guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no beeps when I
> turn it on....
> Thanks
>
>

Fans are very forgiving, voltage wise. I wouldn't be surprised if the CPU
is dead now, though. -Dave
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
a b V Motherboard
November 19, 2004 5:35:11 PM

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"Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:D hdnd.3348$Qh3.2623@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> and where can I buy one?
> Thanks
>

Radio Shack or CVS. -Dave
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
a b V Motherboard
November 19, 2004 7:26:07 PM

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Got some memory in it?
Got a keyboard plugged into the keyboard slot?
Lights flash on keyboard when booting?
Got a video cable plugged in?
Got power turned on to the monitor?
Got a floppy conected?
Got the floppy cable the right way around?
Something simple is more than likely the reason..........



"Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1cfnd.4901$pK6.2827@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> It's an AGP card - Albratron nVidia FX5600 128MB. I've tried replacing
> cards, taking out the memory - same results....
>
> "JAD" <Kapasitor@coldmail.com> wrote in message
> news:10pquaj2rg5k90e@corp.supernews.com...
> > integrated graphics? Or PCI card.
> > Integrated make sure its enabled in the bios
> > PCI - move it to another slot.
> > If the machine has been sitting for a while, remove all cards and
> > memory and reseat them.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:o Tdnd.4824$pK6.3217@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > Ok. I changed the battery (took one from another system that worked
> > 5 min
> > > ago), reset CMOS settings, took the MB out of the case, and powered
> > it up.
> > > All fans were working but once again there was no beep and no signs
> > of life
> > > on the monitor. Any ideas?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > "Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > news:b1oqp0dbkj2orvkc9n1gg0dhibh3coilue@4ax.com...
> > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:31:40 GMT The moonlight laughed on the
> > blade's
> > > > edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > > >
> > > > >I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I haven't used this
> > board
> > > in
> > > > >over a year. Could the battery lose its charge?
> > > >
> > > > Yes.ATX powered systems have a residual current applied across the
> > > > CMOS battery when the power supply is plugged into the back of the
> > > > system even if the system isn't on.This keeps a trickle charge to
> > the
> > > > battery.Depending on the state of the battery it may accept a
> > charge
> > > > however for the cost of a new one it's not worth the hassle.
> > > > The most common are the 2032 and you can get them loads of places
> > even
> > > > ADSA/Wallmart/Staples office supplies chains etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > >news:i6mqp0d35mrrpm27c8nv7gs7lnngq7f8u9@4ax.com...
> > > > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed on the
> > blade's
> > > > >> edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed
> > the CPU
> > > fan,
> > > > >> >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting
> > hot, so
> > > I
> > > > >> >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no
> > beeps when
> > > I
> > > > >> >turn it on....
> > > > >> >Thanks
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Take the board out of the system and try powering it up to
> > check that
> > > > >> it's not grounding to the case.
> > > > >> Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery and then
> > clear
> > > > >> the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
> > > > >> HTH :) 
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
> > > > >> >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> >> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > >> >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used
> > to have
> > > on
> > > > >my
> > > > >> >> > main machine and am having problems. The system sends no
> > signal to
> > > > >the
> > > > >> >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I
> > haven't used
> > > > >the
> > > > >> >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the
> > motherboard is
> > > dead?
> > > > >> >> > Thanks
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common
> > complaint
> > > is
> > > > >"no
> > > > >> >> video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the
> > basics.
> > > > >When
> > > > >> >> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and
> > mainboard
> > > > >and
> > > > >> >CPU
> > > > >> >> must be good)
> > > > >> >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS
> > (mainboard, CPU
> > > > >and
> > > > >> >RAM
> > > > >> >> must be good)
> > > > >> >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point,
> > you
> > > might
> > > > >get
> > > > >> >> video, showing various hardware detected and system checking
> > RAM)
> > > > >> >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order
> > stored in
> > > CMOS
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video
> > card is
> > > not
> > > > >> >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or
> > not
> > > > >finishing
> > > > >> >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps)
> > then you
> > > need
> > > > >to
> > > > >> >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your
> > power
> > > > >supply
> > > > >> >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard
> > are set
> > > > >> >properly.
> > > > >> >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely.
> > Most
> > > > >likely,
> > > > >> >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly
> > nstalled. -Dave
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Free Windows/PC help,
> > > > >> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > > >> remove obvious to reply
> > > > >> email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > > >> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > > >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Free Windows/PC help,
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > > remove obvious to reply
> > > > email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
November 19, 2004 7:26:08 PM

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Yes, there's memory in it. I've tried every slot.

Yes, the keyboard is plugged in

Yes, the lights on the keyboard flash when booting

Yes, the video cable is in

Yes, the monitor is on

Why do I need a floppy to boot?


"BruceM" <bruce9950@@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:419d8af8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> Got some memory in it?
> Got a keyboard plugged into the keyboard slot?
> Lights flash on keyboard when booting?
> Got a video cable plugged in?
> Got power turned on to the monitor?
> Got a floppy conected?
> Got the floppy cable the right way around?
> Something simple is more than likely the reason..........
>
>
>
> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:1cfnd.4901$pK6.2827@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > It's an AGP card - Albratron nVidia FX5600 128MB. I've tried replacing
> > cards, taking out the memory - same results....
> >
> > "JAD" <Kapasitor@coldmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:10pquaj2rg5k90e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > integrated graphics? Or PCI card.
> > > Integrated make sure its enabled in the bios
> > > PCI - move it to another slot.
> > > If the machine has been sitting for a while, remove all cards and
> > > memory and reseat them.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:o Tdnd.4824$pK6.3217@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > Ok. I changed the battery (took one from another system that worked
> > > 5 min
> > > > ago), reset CMOS settings, took the MB out of the case, and powered
> > > it up.
> > > > All fans were working but once again there was no beep and no signs
> > > of life
> > > > on the monitor. Any ideas?
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > "Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:b1oqp0dbkj2orvkc9n1gg0dhibh3coilue@4ax.com...
> > > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:31:40 GMT The moonlight laughed on the
> > > blade's
> > > > > edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > > > >
> > > > > >I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I haven't used this
> > > board
> > > > in
> > > > > >over a year. Could the battery lose its charge?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes.ATX powered systems have a residual current applied across the
> > > > > CMOS battery when the power supply is plugged into the back of the
> > > > > system even if the system isn't on.This keeps a trickle charge to
> > > the
> > > > > battery.Depending on the state of the battery it may accept a
> > > charge
> > > > > however for the cost of a new one it's not worth the hassle.
> > > > > The most common are the 2032 and you can get them loads of places
> > > even
> > > > > ADSA/Wallmart/Staples office supplies chains etc.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > > >news:i6mqp0d35mrrpm27c8nv7gs7lnngq7f8u9@4ax.com...
> > > > > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed on the
> > > blade's
> > > > > >> edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I removed
> > > the CPU
> > > > fan,
> > > > > >> >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started getting
> > > hot, so
> > > > I
> > > > > >> >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am getting no
> > > beeps when
> > > > I
> > > > > >> >turn it on....
> > > > > >> >Thanks
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Take the board out of the system and try powering it up to
> > > check that
> > > > > >> it's not grounding to the case.
> > > > > >> Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery and then
> > > clear
> > > > > >> the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
> > > > > >> HTH :) 
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
> > > > > >> >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > >> >> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > > >> >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the components I used
> > > to have
> > > > on
> > > > > >my
> > > > > >> >> > main machine and am having problems. The system sends no
> > > signal to
> > > > > >the
> > > > > >> >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not help. I
> > > haven't used
> > > > > >the
> > > > > >> >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the
> > > motherboard is
> > > > dead?
> > > > > >> >> > Thanks
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most common
> > > complaint
> > > > is
> > > > > >"no
> > > > > >> >> video". Many things have to happen before video. Check the
> > > basics.
> > > > > >When
> > > > > >> >> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power supply and
> > > mainboard
> > > > > >and
> > > > > >> >CPU
> > > > > >> >> must be good)
> > > > > >> >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS
> > > (mainboard, CPU
> > > > > >and
> > > > > >> >RAM
> > > > > >> >> must be good)
> > > > > >> >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at this point,
> > > you
> > > > might
> > > > > >get
> > > > > >> >> video, showing various hardware detected and system checking
> > > RAM)
> > > > > >> >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot order
> > > stored in
> > > > CMOS
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your video
> > > card is
> > > > not
> > > > > >> >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not POSTing, or
> > > not
> > > > > >finishing
> > > > > >> >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error beeps)
> > > then you
> > > > need
> > > > > >to
> > > > > >> >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make sure your
> > > power
> > > > > >supply
> > > > > >> >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the mainboard
> > > are set
> > > > > >> >properly.
> > > > > >> >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat unlikely.
> > > Most
> > > > > >likely,
> > > > > >> >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly
> > > nstalled. -Dave
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Free Windows/PC help,
> > > > > >> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > > > >> remove obvious to reply
> > > > > >> email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > > > >> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > > > >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Free Windows/PC help,
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > > > remove obvious to reply
> > > > > email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > > > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
November 19, 2004 7:26:09 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

to boot to something(Os) yes
to see the post screen no

"Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:SGgnd.5003$pK6.328@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Yes, there's memory in it. I've tried every slot.
>
> Yes, the keyboard is plugged in
>
> Yes, the lights on the keyboard flash when booting
>
> Yes, the video cable is in
>
> Yes, the monitor is on
>
> Why do I need a floppy to boot?
>
>
> "BruceM" <bruce9950@@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:419d8af8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> > Got some memory in it?
> > Got a keyboard plugged into the keyboard slot?
> > Lights flash on keyboard when booting?
> > Got a video cable plugged in?
> > Got power turned on to the monitor?
> > Got a floppy conected?
> > Got the floppy cable the right way around?
> > Something simple is more than likely the reason..........
> >
> >
> >
> > "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:1cfnd.4901$pK6.2827@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > It's an AGP card - Albratron nVidia FX5600 128MB. I've tried
replacing
> > > cards, taking out the memory - same results....
> > >
> > > "JAD" <Kapasitor@coldmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:10pquaj2rg5k90e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > integrated graphics? Or PCI card.
> > > > Integrated make sure its enabled in the bios
> > > > PCI - move it to another slot.
> > > > If the machine has been sitting for a while, remove all cards
and
> > > > memory and reseat them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:o Tdnd.4824$pK6.3217@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > > Ok. I changed the battery (took one from another system that
worked
> > > > 5 min
> > > > > ago), reset CMOS settings, took the MB out of the case, and
powered
> > > > it up.
> > > > > All fans were working but once again there was no beep and
no signs
> > > > of life
> > > > > on the monitor. Any ideas?
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > "Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:b1oqp0dbkj2orvkc9n1gg0dhibh3coilue@4ax.com...
> > > > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:31:40 GMT The moonlight laughed on
the
> > > > blade's
> > > > > > edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I haven't
used this
> > > > board
> > > > > in
> > > > > > >over a year. Could the battery lose its charge?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes.ATX powered systems have a residual current applied
across the
> > > > > > CMOS battery when the power supply is plugged into the
back of the
> > > > > > system even if the system isn't on.This keeps a trickle
charge to
> > > > the
> > > > > > battery.Depending on the state of the battery it may
accept a
> > > > charge
> > > > > > however for the cost of a new one it's not worth the
hassle.
> > > > > > The most common are the 2032 and you can get them loads of
places
> > > > even
> > > > > > ADSA/Wallmart/Staples office supplies chains etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > >news:i6mqp0d35mrrpm27c8nv7gs7lnngq7f8u9@4ax.com...
> > > > > > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed
on the
> > > > blade's
> > > > > > >> edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I
removed
> > > > the CPU
> > > > > fan,
> > > > > > >> >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started
getting
> > > > hot, so
> > > > > I
> > > > > > >> >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am
getting no
> > > > beeps when
> > > > > I
> > > > > > >> >turn it on....
> > > > > > >> >Thanks
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Take the board out of the system and try powering it up
to
> > > > check that
> > > > > > >> it's not grounding to the case.
> > > > > > >> Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery
and then
> > > > clear
> > > > > > >> the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
> > > > > > >> HTH :) 
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > >> >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > >> >>
news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > > > >> >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the
components I used
> > > > to have
> > > > > on
> > > > > > >my
> > > > > > >> >> > main machine and am having problems. The system
sends no
> > > > signal to
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > >> >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not
help. I
> > > > haven't used
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > >> >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the
> > > > motherboard is
> > > > > dead?
> > > > > > >> >> > Thanks
> > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most
common
> > > > complaint
> > > > > is
> > > > > > >"no
> > > > > > >> >> video". Many things have to happen before video.
Check the
> > > > basics.
> > > > > > >When
> > > > > > >> >> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power
supply and
> > > > mainboard
> > > > > > >and
> > > > > > >> >CPU
> > > > > > >> >> must be good)
> > > > > > >> >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS
> > > > (mainboard, CPU
> > > > > > >and
> > > > > > >> >RAM
> > > > > > >> >> must be good)
> > > > > > >> >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at
this point,
> > > > you
> > > > > might
> > > > > > >get
> > > > > > >> >> video, showing various hardware detected and system
checking
> > > > RAM)
> > > > > > >> >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot
order
> > > > stored in
> > > > > CMOS
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your
video
> > > > card is
> > > > > not
> > > > > > >> >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not
POSTing, or
> > > > not
> > > > > > >finishing
> > > > > > >> >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error
beeps)
> > > > then you
> > > > > need
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > >> >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make
sure your
> > > > power
> > > > > > >supply
> > > > > > >> >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the
mainboard
> > > > are set
> > > > > > >> >properly.
> > > > > > >> >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat
unlikely.
> > > > Most
> > > > > > >likely,
> > > > > > >> >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly
> > > > nstalled. -Dave
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > >> Free Windows/PC help,
> > > > > > >> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > > > > >> remove obvious to reply
> > > > > > >> email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > > > > >> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > > > > >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Free Windows/PC help,
> > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > > > > remove obvious to reply
> > > > > > email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > > > > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > > > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
November 19, 2004 7:26:10 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

Exactly. I don't need a floppy to see the post screen but there's still
nothing on the monitor and the monitor's power light is yellow, which means
there's no signal at all. I guess I'll end up buying a new motherboard....

"JAD" <Kapasitor@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:10pr5ub511mq31f@corp.supernews.com...
> to boot to something(Os) yes
> to see the post screen no
>
> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:SGgnd.5003$pK6.328@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > Yes, there's memory in it. I've tried every slot.
> >
> > Yes, the keyboard is plugged in
> >
> > Yes, the lights on the keyboard flash when booting
> >
> > Yes, the video cable is in
> >
> > Yes, the monitor is on
> >
> > Why do I need a floppy to boot?
> >
> >
> > "BruceM" <bruce9950@@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:419d8af8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> > > Got some memory in it?
> > > Got a keyboard plugged into the keyboard slot?
> > > Lights flash on keyboard when booting?
> > > Got a video cable plugged in?
> > > Got power turned on to the monitor?
> > > Got a floppy conected?
> > > Got the floppy cable the right way around?
> > > Something simple is more than likely the reason..........
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1cfnd.4901$pK6.2827@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > It's an AGP card - Albratron nVidia FX5600 128MB. I've tried
> replacing
> > > > cards, taking out the memory - same results....
> > > >
> > > > "JAD" <Kapasitor@coldmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:10pquaj2rg5k90e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > integrated graphics? Or PCI card.
> > > > > Integrated make sure its enabled in the bios
> > > > > PCI - move it to another slot.
> > > > > If the machine has been sitting for a while, remove all cards
> and
> > > > > memory and reseat them.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:o Tdnd.4824$pK6.3217@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > > > Ok. I changed the battery (took one from another system that
> worked
> > > > > 5 min
> > > > > > ago), reset CMOS settings, took the MB out of the case, and
> powered
> > > > > it up.
> > > > > > All fans were working but once again there was no beep and
> no signs
> > > > > of life
> > > > > > on the monitor. Any ideas?
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:b1oqp0dbkj2orvkc9n1gg0dhibh3coilue@4ax.com...
> > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:31:40 GMT The moonlight laughed on
> the
> > > > > blade's
> > > > > > > edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I haven't
> used this
> > > > > board
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >over a year. Could the battery lose its charge?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes.ATX powered systems have a residual current applied
> across the
> > > > > > > CMOS battery when the power supply is plugged into the
> back of the
> > > > > > > system even if the system isn't on.This keeps a trickle
> charge to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > battery.Depending on the state of the battery it may
> accept a
> > > > > charge
> > > > > > > however for the cost of a new one it's not worth the
> hassle.
> > > > > > > The most common are the 2032 and you can get them loads of
> places
> > > > > even
> > > > > > > ADSA/Wallmart/Staples office supplies chains etc.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > >news:i6mqp0d35mrrpm27c8nv7gs7lnngq7f8u9@4ax.com...
> > > > > > > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight laughed
> on the
> > > > > blade's
> > > > > > > >> edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine. I
> removed
> > > > > the CPU
> > > > > > fan,
> > > > > > > >> >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU started
> getting
> > > > > hot, so
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > >> >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am
> getting no
> > > > > beeps when
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > >> >turn it on....
> > > > > > > >> >Thanks
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Take the board out of the system and try powering it up
> to
> > > > > check that
> > > > > > > >> it's not grounding to the case.
> > > > > > > >> Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS battery
> and then
> > > > > clear
> > > > > > > >> the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
> > > > > > > >> HTH :) 
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > >> >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > >> >>
> news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > > > > >> >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the
> components I used
> > > > > to have
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >my
> > > > > > > >> >> > main machine and am having problems. The system
> sends no
> > > > > signal to
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > >> >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not
> help. I
> > > > > haven't used
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > >> >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that the
> > > > > motherboard is
> > > > > > dead?
> > > > > > > >> >> > Thanks
> > > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig. Most
> common
> > > > > complaint
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > >"no
> > > > > > > >> >> video". Many things have to happen before video.
> Check the
> > > > > basics.
> > > > > > > >When
> > > > > > > >> >> you turn on a computer, several things happen . . .
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power
> supply and
> > > > > mainboard
> > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > >> >CPU
> > > > > > > >> >> must be good)
> > > > > > > >> >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in BIOS
> > > > > (mainboard, CPU
> > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > >> >RAM
> > > > > > > >> >> must be good)
> > > > > > > >> >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at
> this point,
> > > > > you
> > > > > > might
> > > > > > > >get
> > > > > > > >> >> video, showing various hardware detected and system
> checking
> > > > > RAM)
> > > > > > > >> >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using boot
> order
> > > > > stored in
> > > > > > CMOS
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as your
> video
> > > > > card is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > >> >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not
> POSTing, or
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > >finishing
> > > > > > > >> >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even error
> beeps)
> > > > > then you
> > > > > > need
> > > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > >> >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables, make
> sure your
> > > > > power
> > > > > > > >supply
> > > > > > > >> >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the
> mainboard
> > > > > are set
> > > > > > > >> >properly.
> > > > > > > >> >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is somewhat
> unlikely.
> > > > > Most
> > > > > > > >likely,
> > > > > > > >> >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly
> > > > > nstalled. -Dave
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > >> Free Windows/PC help,
> > > > > > > >> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > > > > > >> remove obvious to reply
> > > > > > > >> email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > > > > > >> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > > > > > >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Free Windows/PC help,
> > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > > > > > remove obvious to reply
> > > > > > > email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > > > > > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > > > > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
November 19, 2004 7:26:11 PM

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well other than the simple diagnosis of 'fans spin power supply is
good" which doesn't 'conclusively rule out he PSU, it seems the MB
isn't doing to well. . Have you cleaned the contacts of the cards and
slots?/



"Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3Ognd.5023$pK6.3518@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Exactly. I don't need a floppy to see the post screen but there's
still
> nothing on the monitor and the monitor's power light is yellow,
which means
> there's no signal at all. I guess I'll end up buying a new
motherboard....
>
> "JAD" <Kapasitor@coldmail.com> wrote in message
> news:10pr5ub511mq31f@corp.supernews.com...
> > to boot to something(Os) yes
> > to see the post screen no
> >
> > "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:SGgnd.5003$pK6.328@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > Yes, there's memory in it. I've tried every slot.
> > >
> > > Yes, the keyboard is plugged in
> > >
> > > Yes, the lights on the keyboard flash when booting
> > >
> > > Yes, the video cable is in
> > >
> > > Yes, the monitor is on
> > >
> > > Why do I need a floppy to boot?
> > >
> > >
> > > "BruceM" <bruce9950@@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:419d8af8@duster.adelaide.on.net...
> > > > Got some memory in it?
> > > > Got a keyboard plugged into the keyboard slot?
> > > > Lights flash on keyboard when booting?
> > > > Got a video cable plugged in?
> > > > Got power turned on to the monitor?
> > > > Got a floppy conected?
> > > > Got the floppy cable the right way around?
> > > > Something simple is more than likely the reason..........
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1cfnd.4901$pK6.2827@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > > It's an AGP card - Albratron nVidia FX5600 128MB. I've tried
> > replacing
> > > > > cards, taking out the memory - same results....
> > > > >
> > > > > "JAD" <Kapasitor@coldmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:10pquaj2rg5k90e@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > > integrated graphics? Or PCI card.
> > > > > > Integrated make sure its enabled in the bios
> > > > > > PCI - move it to another slot.
> > > > > > If the machine has been sitting for a while, remove all
cards
> > and
> > > > > > memory and reseat them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > >
news:o Tdnd.4824$pK6.3217@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > > > > Ok. I changed the battery (took one from another system
that
> > worked
> > > > > > 5 min
> > > > > > > ago), reset CMOS settings, took the MB out of the case,
and
> > powered
> > > > > > it up.
> > > > > > > All fans were working but once again there was no beep
and
> > no signs
> > > > > > of life
> > > > > > > on the monitor. Any ideas?
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:b1oqp0dbkj2orvkc9n1gg0dhibh3coilue@4ax.com...
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:31:40 GMT The moonlight laughed
on
> > the
> > > > > > blade's
> > > > > > > > edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I think the CMOS battery might be the reason. I
haven't
> > used this
> > > > > > board
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >over a year. Could the battery lose its charge?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes.ATX powered systems have a residual current
applied
> > across the
> > > > > > > > CMOS battery when the power supply is plugged into the
> > back of the
> > > > > > > > system even if the system isn't on.This keeps a
trickle
> > charge to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > battery.Depending on the state of the battery it may
> > accept a
> > > > > > charge
> > > > > > > > however for the cost of a new one it's not worth the
> > hassle.
> > > > > > > > The most common are the 2032 and you can get them
loads of
> > places
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > ADSA/Wallmart/Staples office supplies chains etc.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >"Shep©" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > >news:i6mqp0d35mrrpm27c8nv7gs7lnngq7f8u9@4ax.com...
> > > > > > > > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 02:20:59 GMT The moonlight
laughed
> > on the
> > > > > > blade's
> > > > > > > > >> edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >All fans are working, so the power supply is fine.
I
> > removed
> > > > > > the CPU
> > > > > > > fan,
> > > > > > > > >> >turned the system on for 10 sec or so, the CPU
started
> > getting
> > > > > > hot, so
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > >> >guess the motherboard is not dead. However, I am
> > getting no
> > > > > > beeps when
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > >> >turn it on....
> > > > > > > > >> >Thanks
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Take the board out of the system and try powering
it up
> > to
> > > > > > check that
> > > > > > > > >> it's not grounding to the case.
> > > > > > > > >> Also pull the power rom the board,change CMOS
battery
> > and then
> > > > > > clear
> > > > > > > > >> the CMOS and then add power back to the board.
> > > > > > > > >> HTH :) 
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > >> >news:3052u5F2r0lnlU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > news:Xecnd.3288$Qh3.1059@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > > > > > >> >> > Hi! I decided to build a system from the
> > components I used
> > > > > > to have
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > >my
> > > > > > > > >> >> > main machine and am having problems. The
system
> > sends no
> > > > > > signal to
> > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >> >> > monitor. I changed video cards but it did not
> > help. I
> > > > > > haven't used
> > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >> >> > motherboard in over a year. Could it be that
the
> > > > > > motherboard is
> > > > > > > dead?
> > > > > > > > >> >> > Thanks
> > > > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> Geez, I'm gonna have to put this in my sig.
Most
> > common
> > > > > > complaint
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > >"no
> > > > > > > > >> >> video". Many things have to happen before
video.
> > Check the
> > > > > > basics.
> > > > > > > > >When
> > > > > > > > >> >> you turn on a computer, several things happen .
.. .
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> - CPU waits for good power signal (so power
> > supply and
> > > > > > mainboard
> > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > >> >CPU
> > > > > > > > >> >> must be good)
> > > > > > > > >> >> - CPU starts running POST program stored in
BIOS
> > > > > > (mainboard, CPU
> > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > >> >RAM
> > > > > > > > >> >> must be good)
> > > > > > > > >> >> - After POST, video card is initialized. (at
> > this point,
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > might
> > > > > > > > >get
> > > > > > > > >> >> video, showing various hardware detected and
system
> > checking
> > > > > > RAM)
> > > > > > > > >> >> - Finally, CPU looks for OS to boot, using
boot
> > order
> > > > > > stored in
> > > > > > > CMOS
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> You are stuck somewhere in step one or two, as
your
> > video
> > > > > > card is
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > >> >> getting initialized. Thus, your computer is not
> > POSTing, or
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > >finishing
> > > > > > > > >> >> POST. If you are getting nothing (not even
error
> > beeps)
> > > > > > then you
> > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > >> >> start from scratch and check ALL your cables,
make
> > sure your
> > > > > > power
> > > > > > > > >supply
> > > > > > > > >> >> isn't dead, and make sure ALL the jumpers on the
> > mainboard
> > > > > > are set
> > > > > > > > >> >properly.
> > > > > > > > >> >> Your mainboard could be dead, but this is
somewhat
> > unlikely.
> > > > > > Most
> > > > > > > > >likely,
> > > > > > > > >> >> you have a loose cable, or a cable improperly
> > > > > > nstalled. -Dave
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > >> Free Windows/PC help,
> > > > > > > > >> http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > > > > > > >> remove obvious to reply
> > > > > > > > >> email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > > > > > > >> Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > > > > > > >>
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Free Windows/PC help,
> > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
> > > > > > > > remove obvious to reply
> > > > > > > > email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
> > > > > > > > Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
> > > > > > > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
a b V Motherboard
November 19, 2004 10:02:32 PM

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Peter wrote:

> and where can I buy one?

Chez McBat;-)

>
> "JAD" <Kapasitor@coldmail.com> wrote in message
> news:10pqmttfqmi01@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>Could the battery lose its charge?
>>
>>
>>yes
>>
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
a b V Motherboard
November 19, 2004 10:40:56 PM

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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 05:07:09 GMT The moonlight laughed on the blade's
edge when "Peter" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote :

>It's an AGP card - Albratron nVidia FX5600 128MB. I've tried replacing
>cards, taking out the memory - same results....

If you have an older less powerful AGP card try that.Your power supply
may not be up to the above card's current draw :/ 
I keep an old SIS AGP 8 meg card for testing/building PCs.



--
Free Windows/PC help,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
remove obvious to reply
email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :o )
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
!