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Anonymous
February 15, 2005 5:53:04 AM

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Hi Jack

Just got back to find my documents empty. Haven't come accross this one
before.

Read your reply to my wife's question.

Can you let me know, what I need to do.

Thanks

Iain
Anonymous
February 15, 2005 10:39:13 AM

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Before you go too far and before Jack gets back to you. DON'T use the
computer! Don't move or copy files on the drive on which the folder was
deleted. DON'T INSTALL recovery software on the computer! Doing so may
overwrite the files that you want to recover. You will need recovery
software that runs from a diskette. During the recovery process the
recovery software will prompt you for a restore location, if at all
possible you should restore to a different drive or even diskettes if
possible, restoring on the recovery drive is not a good idea. Your
chances of successful recovery depends greatly on you following this
advice! I'm in a bit of a hurry now so I don't have time to dig out my
recommendations for recovery software, I'm sure others will advise you
on that. I just wanted to point out the importance of keeping the drive
as it is until you recover the files.

John

Iain wrote:
> Hi Jack
>
> Just got back to find my documents empty. Haven't come accross this one
> before.
>
> Read your reply to my wife's question.
>
> Can you let me know, what I need to do.
>
> Thanks
>
> Iain
Anonymous
February 15, 2005 11:32:06 AM

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Ok, I'm at work now (I got a good job!), I dug this out that might be of
help to you:

Not free: http://www.dtidata.com/data_recovery_software.htm

Free: http://www3.telus.net/mikebike/RESTORATION.html

Also, text files are easier to recover than graphic files. Jpeg's for
example can be difficult to recover, so the type of files you had in
that folder may influence the software choice you make. Trying to
recover a whole folder is more difficult and iffy than recovering the
files one by one.

John

John John wrote:
> Before you go too far and before Jack gets back to you. DON'T use the
> computer! Don't move or copy files on the drive on which the folder was
> deleted. DON'T INSTALL recovery software on the computer! Doing so may
> overwrite the files that you want to recover. You will need recovery
> software that runs from a diskette. During the recovery process the
> recovery software will prompt you for a restore location, if at all
> possible you should restore to a different drive or even diskettes if
> possible, restoring on the recovery drive is not a good idea. Your
> chances of successful recovery depends greatly on you following this
> advice! I'm in a bit of a hurry now so I don't have time to dig out my
> recommendations for recovery software, I'm sure others will advise you
> on that. I just wanted to point out the importance of keeping the drive
> as it is until you recover the files.
>
> John
>
> Iain wrote:
>
>> Hi Jack
>>
>> Just got back to find my documents empty. Haven't come accross this
>> one before.
>>
>> Read your reply to my wife's question.
>>
>> Can you let me know, what I need to do.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Iain
Anonymous
February 15, 2005 12:01:54 PM

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Thank you, John John, for replying before I returned and for providing such
ESSENTIAL advice. You are very correct!

Iain, you must obtain some file recovery tool which can run without loading
Windows and attempt the file/s recovery, hoping that they have not already
been overwritten, which would now necessitate very expensive recovery
techniques from the commercial recovery companies, such as those advertising
in the back pages of PC Magazine.

Here is my somewhat out-of-date file on these tools:

File Recovery Tools

EasyRecovery, $89, demo will retrieve five files and show what else
can be retrieved. Retrieved files copied to another partition, hard
drive, network drive, or removable media:
http://www.ontrack.com/easyrecovery/

Fast File Undelete, $29, demo will retrieve files 15 kb or smaller.
Retrieved files are copied to another drive:
http://www.datarecoveryzone.com/undeleteit.asp

DataBack, $22.95, demo available. Program is installed to other than
the affected PC and you create a floppy disk for retrieval purposes.
http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/~tkuurstra/index.htm#Data...

Recover4All, $49, demo will retrieve files up to 10 kb and show what
else can be retrieved. Retrieved files are copied to another drive:
http://www.recover4all.com/


---
Ron Badour, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
Tips: http://badour.freewebsites.com/index.html
----

Ran across this and thought it might be of use to those concerned with data
recovery operations.

http://pjwalczak.com/scaven/index.php

Regards, Jim Byrd
----

One option is "FileRestore" from Winternals Software--

www.winternals.com/products/repairandrecovery/fileresto...

This $39 utility recovers files deleted from any Windows XP/2000/NT/Me/9x
system regardless of whether emptied from the Recycle Bin, deleted via a
command prompt or with a removed directory, by a remote process or
uninstall, etc. It's designed to be effective regardless of whether
installed before or after an accidental deletion.

FileRestore works on NTFS, FAT, and FAT32 drives. It recovers files
(including compressed files) deleted from hard drives- plus floppy disks,
Jaz, Zip, and even CompactFlash photo cards.

Please note:

Regardless of which recovery program is used, it is recommended that you--

To the extent possible stop all disk activity on your system without
shutting the system down. Turn off any scheduled defragmentation and do not
defrag your system until lost files are recovered. Close all applications
including email and Web browsing software and, if removable media such as a
floppy disk drive is available on your system, disconnect your system from
the network as soon as is practical. This will reduce the possibility that
deleted files will be overwritten.

If installing FileRestore, we recommend that you download and install it on
a second computer and follow the "Emergency Installation" procedure in the
Help file. This procedure will allow you to run FileRestore from a floppy
disk or network drive to help maximize the chances of recovery.

Most file recovery utilities are unable to recover data from accidentally
formatted partitions. "Disk Commander" from Winternals Software is a utility
designed for this purpose, among other things:
http://www.winternals.com/products/repairandrecovery/di...

- Paul (a Winternals employee)
----

And "Restoration". Freeware. Works great.
http://hccweb1.bai.ne.jp/~hcj58401/
-----

http://www.briggsoft.com/dsnoop.htm
-----

File Recovery Software
Win95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP, Linux Download and try Free Demo
www.r-tt.com
-----


Data Recovery
06.17.03

By Edward Mendelson
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1091334,00.asp
----


Iain, if your personal data is particularly important, you may first wish
to discus the situation with a recovery specialist firm, who may evaluate
your disk for a small or no fee, and better advise you. If the files
haven't been overwritten, such a recovery for them is almost trivial.

Hard Disk Data Recovery
Expert data recovery on all systems Free evaluation. Techs on call 24/7
www.drivelabs.us


File Recovery
File Recovery Service Free Evaluation Please call
www.drivecrash.com

-------

Please keep us advised, as I do not often see this issue.

And once again, Thank you, John John.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul...
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:eob%23Ip1EFHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Ok, I'm at work now (I got a good job!), I dug this out that might be of
> help to you:
>
> Not free: http://www.dtidata.com/data_recovery_software.htm
>
> Free: http://www3.telus.net/mikebike/RESTORATION.html
>
> Also, text files are easier to recover than graphic files. Jpeg's for
> example can be difficult to recover, so the type of files you had in
> that folder may influence the software choice you make. Trying to
> recover a whole folder is more difficult and iffy than recovering the
> files one by one.
>
> John
>
> John John wrote:
> > Before you go too far and before Jack gets back to you. DON'T use the
> > computer! Don't move or copy files on the drive on which the folder was
> > deleted. DON'T INSTALL recovery software on the computer! Doing so may
> > overwrite the files that you want to recover. You will need recovery
> > software that runs from a diskette. During the recovery process the
> > recovery software will prompt you for a restore location, if at all
> > possible you should restore to a different drive or even diskettes if
> > possible, restoring on the recovery drive is not a good idea. Your
> > chances of successful recovery depends greatly on you following this
> > advice! I'm in a bit of a hurry now so I don't have time to dig out my
> > recommendations for recovery software, I'm sure others will advise you
> > on that. I just wanted to point out the importance of keeping the drive
> > as it is until you recover the files.
> >
> > John
> >
> > Iain wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jack
> >>
> >> Just got back to find my documents empty. Haven't come accross this
> >> one before.
> >>
> >> Read your reply to my wife's question.
> >>
> >> Can you let me know, what I need to do.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Iain
>
Anonymous
February 15, 2005 2:09:28 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

You're welcome Jack. I didn't want to butt into a post specifically and
directly addressed to you but I thought it quite important that the
poster be advised of best practices to increase chances of successful
recovery. I thought, "if Jack doesn't show up here for another 12 hours
or so this guy may completely lose all chances of recovering his files",
so I jumped in. I knew you would follow up and give him proper and in
depth advice... and you have! Quite a list you have there! I'm keeping
a copy of it. I'll go over it and see if I can add to it, if so I'll
repost my updated list.

Regards;

John

Jack E Martinelli wrote:
> Thank you, John John, for replying before I returned and for providing such
> ESSENTIAL advice. You are very correct!
>
> Iain, you must obtain some file recovery tool which can run without loading
> Windows and attempt the file/s recovery, hoping that they have not already
> been overwritten, which would now necessitate very expensive recovery
> techniques from the commercial recovery companies, such as those advertising
> in the back pages of PC Magazine.
>
> Here is my somewhat out-of-date file on these tools:
>
> File Recovery Tools
>
> EasyRecovery, $89, demo will retrieve five files and show what else
> can be retrieved. Retrieved files copied to another partition, hard
> drive, network drive, or removable media:
> http://www.ontrack.com/easyrecovery/
>
> Fast File Undelete, $29, demo will retrieve files 15 kb or smaller.
> Retrieved files are copied to another drive:
> http://www.datarecoveryzone.com/undeleteit.asp
>
> DataBack, $22.95, demo available. Program is installed to other than
> the affected PC and you create a floppy disk for retrieval purposes.
> http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/~tkuurstra/index.htm#Data...
>
> Recover4All, $49, demo will retrieve files up to 10 kb and show what
> else can be retrieved. Retrieved files are copied to another drive:
> http://www.recover4all.com/
>
>
> ---
> Ron Badour, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> Tips: http://badour.freewebsites.com/index.html
> ----
>
> Ran across this and thought it might be of use to those concerned with data
> recovery operations.
>
> http://pjwalczak.com/scaven/index.php
>
> Regards, Jim Byrd
> ----
>
> One option is "FileRestore" from Winternals Software--
>
> www.winternals.com/products/repairandrecovery/fileresto...
>
> This $39 utility recovers files deleted from any Windows XP/2000/NT/Me/9x
> system regardless of whether emptied from the Recycle Bin, deleted via a
> command prompt or with a removed directory, by a remote process or
> uninstall, etc. It's designed to be effective regardless of whether
> installed before or after an accidental deletion.
>
> FileRestore works on NTFS, FAT, and FAT32 drives. It recovers files
> (including compressed files) deleted from hard drives- plus floppy disks,
> Jaz, Zip, and even CompactFlash photo cards.
>
> Please note:
>
> Regardless of which recovery program is used, it is recommended that you--
>
> To the extent possible stop all disk activity on your system without
> shutting the system down. Turn off any scheduled defragmentation and do not
> defrag your system until lost files are recovered. Close all applications
> including email and Web browsing software and, if removable media such as a
> floppy disk drive is available on your system, disconnect your system from
> the network as soon as is practical. This will reduce the possibility that
> deleted files will be overwritten.
>
> If installing FileRestore, we recommend that you download and install it on
> a second computer and follow the "Emergency Installation" procedure in the
> Help file. This procedure will allow you to run FileRestore from a floppy
> disk or network drive to help maximize the chances of recovery.
>
> Most file recovery utilities are unable to recover data from accidentally
> formatted partitions. "Disk Commander" from Winternals Software is a utility
> designed for this purpose, among other things:
> http://www.winternals.com/products/repairandrecovery/di...
>
> - Paul (a Winternals employee)
> ----
>
> And "Restoration". Freeware. Works great.
> http://hccweb1.bai.ne.jp/~hcj58401/
> -----
>
> http://www.briggsoft.com/dsnoop.htm
> -----
>
> File Recovery Software
> Win95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP, Linux Download and try Free Demo
> www.r-tt.com
> -----
>
>
> Data Recovery
> 06.17.03
>
> By Edward Mendelson
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1091334,00.asp
> ----
>
>
> Iain, if your personal data is particularly important, you may first wish
> to discus the situation with a recovery specialist firm, who may evaluate
> your disk for a small or no fee, and better advise you. If the files
> haven't been overwritten, such a recovery for them is almost trivial.
>
> Hard Disk Data Recovery
> Expert data recovery on all systems Free evaluation. Techs on call 24/7
> www.drivelabs.us
>
>
> File Recovery
> File Recovery Service Free Evaluation Please call
> www.drivecrash.com
>
> -------
>
> Please keep us advised, as I do not often see this issue.
>
> And once again, Thank you, John John.
February 15, 2005 3:24:07 PM

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"Iain" <Iain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> Hi Jack
>
> Just got back to find my documents empty. Haven't come accross this one
> before.
>
> Read your reply to my wife's question.
>
> Can you let me know, what I need to do.
>
> Thanks
>
> Iain

I don't know what you should do now but now you know that back up is a
computer user's best friend.
--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
Anonymous
February 15, 2005 3:24:08 PM

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Sorry, How do I do that?

"Alias" wrote:

>
> "Iain" <Iain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> > Hi Jack
> >
> > Just got back to find my documents empty. Haven't come accross this one
> > before.
> >
> > Read your reply to my wife's question.
> >
> > Can you let me know, what I need to do.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Iain
>
> I don't know what you should do now but now you know that back up is a
> computer user's best friend.
> --
> Alias
>
> Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
> Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
>
>
>
February 15, 2005 4:48:22 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

Burn to a CD, copy to a second hard drive, either internal or external. If
you can afford it, an external USB hard drive is the best because you can
remove it from your computer and put it where the kids can't get to it. Many
come with an imaging program so you can "take a picture" of your drive and,
if anything goes wrong, restore it exactly they way it was before.
--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

"Iain" <Iain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:20D879F3-C49B-4224-B54D-895CD85EA5FD@microsoft.com...
> Sorry, How do I do that?
>
> "Alias" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Iain" <Iain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> > Hi Jack
>> >
>> > Just got back to find my documents empty. Haven't come accross this one
>> > before.
>> >
>> > Read your reply to my wife's question.
>> >
>> > Can you let me know, what I need to do.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Iain
>>
>> I don't know what you should do now but now you know that back up is a
>> computer user's best friend.
>> --
>> Alias
>>
>> Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
>> Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
February 15, 2005 9:11:57 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

Once again, John, you are absolutely correct!
And I never interpret any comment from anyone as "butting in to my
response".
We are a helping community here in the Millennium ng's, and your
contribution here is just superb, . a model for others, if I may say.

Thank you very much, and you have served Iain very well,
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul...
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:uDqrEB3EFHA.3304@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> You're welcome Jack. I didn't want to butt into a post specifically and
> directly addressed to you but I thought it quite important that the
> poster be advised of best practices to increase chances of successful
> recovery. I thought, "if Jack doesn't show up here for another 12 hours
> or so this guy may completely lose all chances of recovering his files",
> so I jumped in. I knew you would follow up and give him proper and in
> depth advice... and you have! Quite a list you have there! I'm keeping
> a copy of it. I'll go over it and see if I can add to it, if so I'll
> repost my updated list.
>
> Regards;
>
> John
>
> Jack E Martinelli wrote:
> > Thank you, John John, for replying before I returned and for providing
such
> > ESSENTIAL advice. You are very correct!
> >
> > Iain, you must obtain some file recovery tool which can run without
loading
> > Windows and attempt the file/s recovery, hoping that they have not
already
> > been overwritten, which would now necessitate very expensive recovery
> > techniques from the commercial recovery companies, such as those
advertising
> > in the back pages of PC Magazine.
> >
> > Here is my somewhat out-of-date file on these tools:
> >
> > File Recovery Tools
> >
> > EasyRecovery, $89, demo will retrieve five files and show what else
> > can be retrieved. Retrieved files copied to another partition, hard
> > drive, network drive, or removable media:
> > http://www.ontrack.com/easyrecovery/
> >
> > Fast File Undelete, $29, demo will retrieve files 15 kb or smaller.
> > Retrieved files are copied to another drive:
> > http://www.datarecoveryzone.com/undeleteit.asp
> >
> > DataBack, $22.95, demo available. Program is installed to other than
> > the affected PC and you create a floppy disk for retrieval purposes.
> > http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/~tkuurstra/index.htm#Data...
> >
> > Recover4All, $49, demo will retrieve files up to 10 kb and show what
> > else can be retrieved. Retrieved files are copied to another drive:
> > http://www.recover4all.com/
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Ron Badour, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
> > Tips: http://badour.freewebsites.com/index.html
> > ----
> >
> > Ran across this and thought it might be of use to those concerned with
data
> > recovery operations.
> >
> > http://pjwalczak.com/scaven/index.php
> >
> > Regards, Jim Byrd
> > ----
> >
> > One option is "FileRestore" from Winternals Software--
> >
> > www.winternals.com/products/repairandrecovery/fileresto...
> >
> > This $39 utility recovers files deleted from any Windows
XP/2000/NT/Me/9x
> > system regardless of whether emptied from the Recycle Bin, deleted via a
> > command prompt or with a removed directory, by a remote process or
> > uninstall, etc. It's designed to be effective regardless of whether
> > installed before or after an accidental deletion.
> >
> > FileRestore works on NTFS, FAT, and FAT32 drives. It recovers files
> > (including compressed files) deleted from hard drives- plus floppy
disks,
> > Jaz, Zip, and even CompactFlash photo cards.
> >
> > Please note:
> >
> > Regardless of which recovery program is used, it is recommended that
you--
> >
> > To the extent possible stop all disk activity on your system without
> > shutting the system down. Turn off any scheduled defragmentation and do
not
> > defrag your system until lost files are recovered. Close all
applications
> > including email and Web browsing software and, if removable media such
as a
> > floppy disk drive is available on your system, disconnect your system
from
> > the network as soon as is practical. This will reduce the possibility
that
> > deleted files will be overwritten.
> >
> > If installing FileRestore, we recommend that you download and install it
on
> > a second computer and follow the "Emergency Installation" procedure in
the
> > Help file. This procedure will allow you to run FileRestore from a
floppy
> > disk or network drive to help maximize the chances of recovery.
> >
> > Most file recovery utilities are unable to recover data from
accidentally
> > formatted partitions. "Disk Commander" from Winternals Software is a
utility
> > designed for this purpose, among other things:
> > http://www.winternals.com/products/repairandrecovery/di...
> >
> > - Paul (a Winternals employee)
> > ----
> >
> > And "Restoration". Freeware. Works great.
> > http://hccweb1.bai.ne.jp/~hcj58401/
> > -----
> >
> > http://www.briggsoft.com/dsnoop.htm
> > -----
> >
> > File Recovery Software
> > Win95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP, Linux Download and try Free Demo
> > www.r-tt.com
> > -----
> >
> >
> > Data Recovery
> > 06.17.03
> >
> > By Edward Mendelson
> > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1091334,00.asp
> > ----
> >
> >
> > Iain, if your personal data is particularly important, you may first
wish
> > to discus the situation with a recovery specialist firm, who may
evaluate
> > your disk for a small or no fee, and better advise you. If the files
> > haven't been overwritten, such a recovery for them is almost trivial.
> >
> > Hard Disk Data Recovery
> > Expert data recovery on all systems Free evaluation. Techs on call 24/7
> > www.drivelabs.us
> >
> >
> > File Recovery
> > File Recovery Service Free Evaluation Please call
> > www.drivecrash.com
> >
> > -------
> >
> > Please keep us advised, as I do not often see this issue.
> >
> > And once again, Thank you, John John.
>
Anonymous
February 18, 2005 8:37:40 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

Do you have anything new to report, Iain?

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/defaul...
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Iain" <Iain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BFAF89A9-FAF5-4A21-80CB-B9E2EFBF877C@microsoft.com...
> Hi Jack
>
> Just got back to find my documents empty. Haven't come accross this one
> before.
>
> Read your reply to my wife's question.
>
> Can you let me know, what I need to do.
>
> Thanks
>
> Iain
!