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August 3, 2012 6:37:21 PM

Im not sure how these sales numbers break up into consumer sales, however im not buying it cause I dont need more than 8 gig and the difference today in ram is really splitting hairs (for performance) and not giving me 50% faster load times or helping my fps. So...no buy!
August 3, 2012 6:43:35 PM

Hmm maybe it's a good time to re-introduce RDRAM into mainstream.



/joke
August 3, 2012 6:45:32 PM

Rambus...feel sorry for those poor souls (from a consumer gaming pov)
August 3, 2012 6:49:38 PM

release a new standard with a signifigant performance boost and they will sell, also if they can convince oem to include more ram sales might improve... but most us in the pc market have ddr3 comign out our ears it has been around for a whiel i have a few unused sticks just in with old motherboards from upgrades but having 16 gigs in each machine ther eis no need to buy more no gain betyon even 8 gigs in most machines
August 3, 2012 7:03:52 PM

"In 2010, 16.39 billion units were shipped. In 2012, the number will be almost double - 32 million devices." Daum, a whole -200% increase.
August 3, 2012 7:08:30 PM

g00fysmileyrelease a new standard with a signifigant performance boost and they will sell, also if they can convince oem to include more ram sales might improve... but most us in the pc market have ddr3 comign out our ears it has been around for a whiel i have a few unused sticks just in with old motherboards from upgrades but having 16 gigs in each machine ther eis no need to buy more no gain betyon even 8 gigs in most machines


Definitely. Seems like the main determining factor right now for memory is simply how much you have. If they actually introduce let's say DDR4 that has a maybe 25% performance boost then we might see people upgrading.
August 3, 2012 8:21:39 PM

badhomaks"In 2010, 16.39 billion units were shipped. In 2012, the number will be almost double - 32 million devices." Daum, a whole -200% increase.


not to be picky but that's a 100% increase :-)

August 3, 2012 8:31:00 PM

Well Intel is pringing DDR4 to CPU after the Haswell (If not counting Haswell-ep), so it will not help dram makers at this moment. Allso it is true that ram speed has not been very bad bottlenek, so it would reguire much, much faster CPU to reguire much faster ram... Summasumarum ram makers are in trouble.
August 3, 2012 8:59:49 PM

Maybe they should band together to start a software company that makes voxel modeling and rendering software. That would get people needing more RAM. You could use up a terabyte pretty easily for that matter.
August 3, 2012 9:08:28 PM

Looks like they are in need of the new Prozac DDR3 2800 (PC3 22400) Hexachannel RAM.
August 3, 2012 9:40:53 PM

hannibalWell Intel is pringing DDR4 to CPU after the Haswell (If not counting Haswell-e), so it will not help dram makers at this moment. Allso it is true that ram speed has not been very bad bottlenek, so it would reguire much, much faster CPU to reguire much faster ram... Summasumarum ram makers are in trouble.

I think Haswell-EP (Xeons) is rumoured to get DDR4, and Skylake for consumer DDR4.
August 3, 2012 9:49:43 PM

Looks like the producers are attempting to control supply and demand.
August 3, 2012 11:11:09 PM

Until the average user needs more than 6gb of ram, the DRAM industry is going to suffer.
August 4, 2012 12:26:00 AM

They should conspire with MS to make Windows 8 use 8GB of ram for just the OS, so that they get people to buy more RAM.
August 4, 2012 12:29:14 AM

ok, assuming ddr3 takes the same size per gb as an ssd, that means that an ssd currently should only cost 54 cents per gb... and we get close to that number with major sales.

that isn't bad... need to bookmark this so i have a reference for future ssd debates.
August 4, 2012 2:14:28 AM

ChainzsawHmm maybe it's a good time to re-introduce RDRAM into mainstream./joke


I don't think Rambus has even a full-time staff of researchers anymore. Their offices are probably being occupied by full-time lawyers.
August 4, 2012 3:49:16 AM

blingooronRambus...feel sorry for those poor souls (from a consumer gaming pov)


Rambus has their memory in use by the PS3, among other devices. I don't think that their suffering in the console gaming community, granted they're not around the PC gaming community these days.
August 4, 2012 3:50:33 AM

hannibalWell Intel is pringing DDR4 to CPU after the Haswell (If not counting Haswell-ep), so it will not help dram makers at this moment. Allso it is true that ram speed has not been very bad bottlenek, so it would reguire much, much faster CPU to reguire much faster ram... Summasumarum ram makers are in trouble.


With instructions such as AVX and all getting more common use, RAM can quickly become a huge bottle-neck in some applications.
August 4, 2012 3:58:44 AM

alidanok, assuming ddr3 takes the same size per gb as an ssd, that means that an ssd currently should only cost 54 cents per gb... and we get close to that number with major sales. that isn't bad... need to bookmark this so i have a reference for future ssd debates.


Someone doesn't know the difference between GB and Gb. A 2Gb DDR3 chip is actually 256MiB. That DDR3 chip costs $8.64 or so per GiB aka something like $7.45 per GB. Be glad that SSDs aren't even nearly that expensive these days.

What I want to know is that if a 256MiB chip costs $1.08, then why can we buy 2x4GB RAM kits (they use 256MiB chips) for less than $8.64 per GiB? Heck, a 2x4GiB kit can often be had as cheap as $40 on Newegg, but that's only about $5 per GiB. Maybe RAM module manufacturers get some sort of discount or something like that.
August 4, 2012 4:50:18 AM

A Bad DayI don't think Rambus has even a full-time staff of researchers anymore. Their offices are probably being occupied by full-time lawyers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XDR2_DRAM


but I do agree with the sentiment of the first couple of posters. Ive got 6gb of ram and I have no problems in games... well now that I upgraded my gpu that is.
August 4, 2012 4:56:20 AM

A Bad DayI don't think Rambus has even a full-time staff of researchers anymore. Their offices are probably being occupied by full-time lawyers.


http://www.rambus.com/us/news/press_releases/2010/10020...

That one's from 2010 and was just a press release about the technology being worked on. Much more work has been done on it since then.
August 4, 2012 7:54:22 AM

What is this $1.08 nonsense?

2 GB DDR3 sell for $15 in Romania.
August 4, 2012 2:52:19 PM

DSpiderWhat is this $1.08 nonsense?2 GB DDR3 sell for $15 in Romania.


Again, There is a huge difference between Gb and GB. A difference of 8 times, to be exact. 8Gb = 1GB. With RAM, 8Gb = 1GiB because people don't care to use the correct nomenclature. Furthermore, that price is obviously not including shipping and tax for other countries such as Romania.
August 5, 2012 2:08:35 PM

blazorthonhttp://www.rambus.com/us/news/pres [...] 00208.htmlThat one's from 2010 and was just a press release about the technology being worked on. Much more work has been done on it since then.

lol beat you to the punch there brother
August 5, 2012 6:10:02 PM

shin0bi272lol beat you to the punch there brother


The one that you showed was from 2008. Not exactly recent enough to say that Rambus is still doing work.
August 6, 2012 8:14:20 PM

badhomaks"In 2010, 16.39 billion units were shipped. In 2012, the number will be almost double - 32 million devices." Daum, a whole -200% increase.


freggonot to be picky but that's a 100% increase :-)


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