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Toms Harware Censorship

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Do you think Toms Harware should block access to its US site from other countries?




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WOW This is like living in China. Tomshardware.com has blocked all access to it's site from people in the UK. As an American living in the UK I can no longer view the website that I have used for the last eight years. Toms Hardware is the best hardware review site - but I now have no choice but to view the UK site which is a poor substitute.

No other site I know on the whole internet blocks people from the UK viewing their site. Some like Yahoo, Expedia, Ebay give you a choice of UK or US - but to block it. Wow you guys have gone too far. Power corrupts.

I want to see prices in dollars and products available in the US. I buy a lot of product from the US and have them shipped over.

Doesn't anyone else think this smacks of a communist style, over bearing, over controlling power crazed organization? What has happened to the grass roots style start up challenging the establishment - is Toms Hardware now becoming an evil global media empire?

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Reply to blatcher
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I'm not surprised Tomshardware did this.
I was disgusted with Tomshardware when their tenth anniversary celebration prize give away contest is only available to residents of the United States.

Reply to zpyrd

Only thing I can think of would be to force hits to the U.K. site for advertising dollars. The U.S. site probibly exceeds hit quota's without any Euro help so they can double their revenue by having two sites make quota rather then 1 far exceeding quotas [/ Backed up by absolutely no facts what-so-ever] Just my opinion

Reply to AilingBlackLab

Pretty much everybody agrees with you....just look at the tenth anniversity thread. However, it seems to me that because no THG staff member has replied since the good points started to be made...that they just don't care.

Reply to crizazykid2
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Yep... that's pretty much the reason why. Sites don't typically get ad revenue for hits outside of their native country. 99% of the ads on THG USA are advertising for websites that only ship to USA and Canada.

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I want to see prices in dollars and products available in the US. I buy a lot of product from the US and have them shipped over.



It doesn't matter what the hell u want to see. What matters is most ad companies don't pay for hits outside the USA. Period. That's not THG's fault. It's just the way things are.

I don't see anything wrong with what they're doing and it's certainly NOT censorship. THG is in the business to make money and the way they make money is through ad revenue.

Deal with it.

Reply to mpjesse

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Only thing I can think of would be to force hits to the U.K. site for advertising dollars. The U.S. site probibly exceeds hit quota's without any Euro help so they can double their revenue by having two sites make quota rather then 1 far exceeding quotas [/ Backed up by absolutely no facts what-so-ever] Just my opinion

You hit the nail on the head.(For the first time in your life :roll: ) The pound is worth more than the dollar think about that.

Reply to dvdpiddy

Must… Crush…. Capitalism…. Ohh, sorry, right, howdy everybody. To take your points one by one:

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However, it seems to me that because no THG staff member has replied since the good points started to be made...that they just don't care.


I've been replying to almost all the feedback I get about it… go on, hit the email feedback during the daytime and 9 times outta 10 you'll get a reply within the hour from me. The reason I'm not doing it down in TG Website Discussion is so as not to drag it all off topic.

Now, on the issue of "censorship", I might point you towards the dictionary if I were being smart, but instead let me say this (again): Tom's Hardware Guide UK & Ireland has exactly the same content as Tom's Hardware Guide USA, bar the different prices and so on. The only thing different about the content on the UK & Ireland site is the stuff we add in. Nothing is removed, nothing is censored.

The reason we switched on the traffic management is because people were using their bookmarks and continuing to go to the US site, leaving the time and money we invested into a UK end to sit idle. I'm very sorry that it irks some of you to be redirected, but there is no fundamental freedom we've taken away from you. You're going from one version of THG to another one with exactly the same content.

Yes, the reason we set up THG UK & Ireland has a business rationale to it. Scandal, shock, horror, we're a business! However we could have saved ourselves a lot of time, effort and money had we simply forced you to go to a THG UK & Ireland site anyways, but not bothered to give it its own editorial staff, put in the local pricing and develop local content. But we didn't, and I think that that should prove to you that at the end of the day we have your best interests at heart – yes we're arbitrarily redirecting you, but we're also taking the time and spending the money to add value to the content you receive once you have been redirected.

Reply to Aaron McKenna

Aaron - I get the business rationale - but why wouldn't you give people a choice. I'm an American who wants to see items is US$'s and buy a lot from US stores. I just happen to be based in the UK at the moment.

As to the content - I couldn't comment - I can't see the US site - so I have to assume your telling the truth. Clearly the currency is UK (which I don't want) and clearly the advertising is UK (which I don't want).

Again - why is it that Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Amazon, Ebay, Expedia, Altavista, ....... all give people a choice of what country site they want - but Toms Hardware feels they should be allowed to control absolutely which site people go to.

As best I can tell you are the only site on the whole internet that tries to control content in this way.

Give us a choice

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I think you are blind.
I see a big difference between:
http://www.tomshardware.com/index.html and
http://tomshardware.co.uk/index.html and
http://www.tomshardware.de/index.html

For instance the UK and Ireland and German web sites do not have the "tenth annivesary give away"

As for advertisers that ship products to Canada most of them have a Canadian subsiduary division. ex. Amazon.com and Amazon.ca etc.

Face the obvious facts. Tomshardware adore their American web site vistors and don't give a shit about the rest of us.

Reply to zpyrd

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Face the obvious facts. Tomshardware adore their American web site vistors and don't give a **** about the rest of us.



You wrote it as if there's something wrong with that....
:P

Reply to Auburn9698
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Exactly :!:
There should be nothing wrong.
If you live in the US, Canada, Western Europe, Australia or any of the industrialized nations of the world we should all be treated equally.

However there are major differences between Toms' different world wide web sites. Sure they all connect to the major articles writen for Toms Hardware. But after that each site appears different. And only the American site offers the tenth anniversary prize give away.

Also I'm tired of reading the same things over and over again in their articles. Nothing ever changes. The article format is consistantly the same bland and the benchmark tests are dull to read. I realize they need to have consistent benchmark tests for comparison. But my problem is they don't have a consistent benchmark PC, workstation, server and notebook to compare new technology to. All they ever compare are systems with similar hardware from different manufactures with today's technology. It would be nice to see how technology advances if they had a common benchmarking hardware setup. Thus we could actually see a change from year to year as technology advances.

Plain and Simple Toms Hardware is getting old and boring. The only thing entertaining here is the Other forum. And that is the only reason I keep coming back. Even after not posting for over ten months because of personal life issues the only thing that changed was the layout of the main index page, links to specialized web pages and a new forum engine. Which are all great things. But the content is not as good as it was five years ago.

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