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Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
December 12, 2004 3:08:24 PM

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My 233 MHz Celeron is showing its age (need more "zip" with WinXP and 7
of us using it as our home computer).

A while ago, I started pricing an Athlon 2800 (Barton) and an ASUS
A7N8X-E mobo, but I'm wondering if there might be a better choice now,
keeping in mind that I don't want to spend more than a few hundred bucks
on CPU/mobo/case.

I'm going to recycle my 40G Maxtor and CD-RW.

Is there a good reason to go with something like an ASUS P4P800E (socket
478 vs socket A etc.)?

Thanks in advance.

-Pat
Anonymous
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December 12, 2004 6:53:53 PM

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"Pat Coghlan" <coghlan@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> My 233 MHz Celeron is showing its age (need more "zip" with WinXP and 7
> of us using it as our home computer).
>
> A while ago, I started pricing an Athlon 2800 (Barton) and an ASUS
> A7N8X-E mobo, but I'm wondering if there might be a better choice now,
> keeping in mind that I don't want to spend more than a few hundred bucks
> on CPU/mobo/case.
>
> I'm going to recycle my 40G Maxtor and CD-RW.
>
> Is there a good reason to go with something like an ASUS P4P800E (socket
> 478 vs socket A etc.)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Pat

As others have suggested, you will need new RAM and video card and power
supply. BUT, this is still possible, with only spending a few hundred. (US
DOLLARS) Not sure what this equates to in Canadian, but look at something
like this: (from www.newegg) Note that this is plenty powerful for a
family, has 512MB RAM, built-in video and LAN and sound. Just add your
current drives.

Qty Product Item #
Unit Price
Qty x Price
RAIDMAX Beige 10-bay Case, Model "ATX-208" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Case Type: Mid-Tower
Color: Beige
Material: 0.7mm SECC Steel
Drive Bays: 5.25'' x4, 3.5''(External) x2, 3.5''(Internal) x4
Expansion Slots: 7
Front Ports:NA
Power Supply: N/A
Cooling System: 1x 80mm Side Panel Fan
Motherboard Compatibility: ATX/Baby ATX
Dimensions: 16.2''Hx8''Wx17.8''D more info-> N82E16811156011 $18.25
$18.25


BIOSTAR "M7VIG 400" KM266 Pro Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A
CPU -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD Athlon XP/Athlon/Duron Processors
Chipset: VIA KM266 Pro + VT8235
FSB: 333/266/200MHz
RAM: 2x DIMM for DDR333/266 Max 2GB
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP, 3x PCI, 1x CNR
Ports: 2xPS/2,1xLPT,1xCOM,1xVGA,1xLAN,6xUSB2.0(Rear 2),Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: C-Media CMI9761A 6-Channel Audio
Onboard Video: S3 UniChrome 2D/3D Graphics
Onboard LAN: VIA VT6103 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Form Factor: microATX more info-> N82E16813138019 $43.00 $43.00


Sparkle Power 300 Watt Switching Power Supply for P4 Processors,
Model "FSP300-60ATV" -OEM
Specifications:
Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 300W
PFC: No
Power Good Signal: 100-500ms
Hold-up Time: 16.6ms min.@115V/60Hz; 20ms min.@230V/50Hz
Efficiency: 65% min.
Over Voltage Protection: Not specified
Overload Protection: Not specified
Input Voltage: Select 95~132/190~264V AC
Input Frequency Range: 47Hz-63Hz
Input Current: 10A/5A
Output: +3.3V@15/28A;+5V@30/21.5A;-5V@0.3A;+12V@18A;-12V@0.8A;+5VSB@2A
MTBF: 100K hours at 50oC
Approvals: UL 1950, CSA C22.2 Level 3, TUV EN60950, Nemko more info->
N82E16817103915 $28.25 $28.25


AMD Athlon XP 2500+ "Barton", 55W 333 FSB, 512K Cache Processor -
OEM
Specifications:
Model: AMD Athlon XP 2500+
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 1.83GHz
FSB: 333MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage:55W 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM(Processor Only) more info-> N82E16819103506 $83.00
$83.00


Mushkin Basic Green 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-2700 - Retail
Specifications:
Manufacturer: Mushkin
Speed: DDR333(PC2700)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5-4-4
Support Voltage: 2.5V
Bandwidth: 2.7GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820146217 $70.65 $70.65



Subtotal »
$243.15





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Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
December 12, 2004 9:17:01 PM

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"Pat Coghlan" <coghlan@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> My 233 MHz Celeron is showing its age (need more "zip" with WinXP and 7 of
> us using it as our home computer).
>
> A while ago, I started pricing an Athlon 2800 (Barton) and an ASUS A7N8X-E
> mobo, but I'm wondering if there might be a better choice now, keeping in
> mind that I don't want to spend more than a few hundred bucks on
> CPU/mobo/case.
>
> I'm going to recycle my 40G Maxtor and CD-RW.
>
> Is there a good reason to go with something like an ASUS P4P800E (socket
> 478 vs socket A etc.)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Pat

Pat,

Why no go for a Socket 775 Mobo with a P4 Prescott CPU. At least this new
mobo architecture will provide you with an upgradeable platform for the
future.
Related resources
December 12, 2004 10:31:37 PM

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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:08:24 -0500, Pat Coghlan wrote:

> My 233 MHz Celeron is showing its age (need more "zip" with WinXP and 7 of
> us using it as our home computer).
>
> A while ago, I started pricing an Athlon 2800 (Barton) and an ASUS A7N8X-E
> mobo, but I'm wondering if there might be a better choice now, keeping in
> mind that I don't want to spend more than a few hundred bucks on
> CPU/mobo/case.
>
> I'm going to recycle my 40G Maxtor and CD-RW.
>
> Is there a good reason to go with something like an ASUS P4P800E (socket
> 478 vs socket A etc.)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Pat

Instead I'd look at cheap prebuilts for instance some Sempro and Celeron
systems sell for under $300 with everything included even some with WinXP
Home.
Upgrades you'll need new memory, case+ATX psu and maybe cpu cooler and
agp card. If 7 of you are using a 233 Celeron with 40Gb then anything
will be an upgrade.

Example at http://shop1.outpost.com/
GQ 6084 Athlon 2600+
GQ (Desktop):
Outpost #: 4199323
Why pay huge dollars for a desktop, when you could get a fully functioning
one at a fraction of the price! The GQ 6084 AMD Athlon XP 2600+
Processor, 128MB DDR RAM, 40GB Hard Drive and 52x CD-RW drive is a great
system for those upgrading from older technologies.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
December 12, 2004 11:58:15 PM

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"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote:

> Processor - OEM
> Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)

Don't forget the heatsink and fan.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
December 12, 2004 11:58:16 PM

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"John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.is.the.real.thing> wrote in message
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> "Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote:
>
> > Processor - OEM
> > Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)
>
> Don't forget the heatsink and fan.

Ooops, I knew there was something I forgot. Add about 10 bucks for a CPU
cooler. -Dave
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
December 13, 2004 12:03:45 AM

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"Pat Coghlan" <coghlan@sympatico.ca> kirjoitti viestissä
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<SNIP>
> on CPU/mobo/case.
<SNIP>

You'll gonna need new memory too, as your old system uses
S(ingle)D(ata)R(ate) memory
and all newer systems uses D(ouble)D(ata)R(ate) memory

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Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
December 13, 2004 4:12:49 AM

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Pat Coghlan wrote:

> My 233 MHz Celeron is showing its age (need more "zip" with WinXP and 7
> of us using it as our home computer).
>
> A while ago, I started pricing an Athlon 2800 (Barton) and an ASUS
> A7N8X-E mobo, but I'm wondering if there might be a better choice now,
> keeping in mind that I don't want to spend more than a few hundred bucks
> on CPU/mobo/case.
>
> I'm going to recycle my 40G Maxtor and CD-RW.
>
> Is there a good reason to go with something like an ASUS P4P800E (socket
> 478 vs socket A etc.)?

Dell has a PowerEdge SC420 server for $309. As far as I can see, it's got a
free upgrade to a P4 2.8 as well as a free upgrade to an 80GB drive.

Go to http://www.dell.com and go to Small Business. Then hit Servers,
Storage and Networking. Click on Dell PowerEdgeTM Servers and you should
see it.

BTW, this sale was a news item at DSLReports.com.

It sounds like a fantastic deal.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
December 13, 2004 7:08:39 AM

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Pat Coghlan:

> My 233 MHz Celeron is showing its age

Let me point out that you shouldn't worry too much about P4 vs. Athlon or
which chipset... at the rate you upgrade it doesn't really matter. I don't
mean that in a mean way.

Here are some additional suggestions. Once you remove the items you don't
need, it should be close to your budget:
http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/system-guide-200411...

You can sustitute a cheaper video card for the 9800se.
--
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Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
December 15, 2004 5:27:37 PM

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Pat Coghlan wrote:
> My 233 MHz Celeron is showing its age (need more "zip" with WinXP and 7
> of us using it as our home computer).
>
> A while ago, I started pricing an Athlon 2800 (Barton) and an ASUS
> A7N8X-E mobo, but I'm wondering if there might be a better choice now,
> keeping in mind that I don't want to spend more than a few hundred bucks
> on CPU/mobo/case.
>
> I'm going to recycle my 40G Maxtor and CD-RW.
>
> Is there a good reason to go with something like an ASUS P4P800E (socket
> 478 vs socket A etc.)?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Pat
Although the applications and programs are not quite 'there', yet, you
can get a 64 bit processor, case with PSU, and board, for under $300.00
right now!!!

64 bit will allow faster frame rates in gaming, and the 64 bit Opterons
(and, most of the mainboards, peripheral cards, etc.) are less money,
than the comparable speed 32 bit Intel processors!!!

I think that by Next summer, there will appear a bunch of 64 bit Video
applications, including games, that will make us all drool!

Don't forget, current 32-bit programs will ALL run on the 64-bit
platforms!!! I am waiting until Second/Third Financial Quarter of 2005,
to buy, because that is usually how they release the best stuff that is
in the oven right now!

BUT, your mileage might vary, because you state that you are running a
233Mhz whilst I have over 30 systems here, and the salvaged parts to
assemble 20 MORE systems! (We all have our obsessive/compulsive traits,
right? I have kept running almost every computer I ever bought, except
for my Heathkit H89, CoCo64, Z-100, and those others that were little
more than gaming consoles)!
!