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March 17, 2005 9:48:48 PM

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Hi all,

I have 3 OS installed (WINME (default), WIN2000 and WIN2003 Server).
Everytime when I press F8 to go to the boot option menu and choose WinME to
be booted into safe mode it would still proceed to boot into normal mode.
Is there any settings that have been restted because of the muktiple OS
installed? Please help and thanks in advance.

Regards,
Ryan

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Anonymous
March 17, 2005 9:48:49 PM

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Ryan,

Since you are having problems using F8 to reach Safe Mode (have you also
tried Ctrl?) the following may be of help.

Boot to Normal mode and open MSConfig (Start, Run enter MSConfig and click
OK), open the General tab and then click Advanced and you will find there
the option "Enable Startup Menu". Check this, OK out. close MSConfig and
reboot. You should now be presented the boot menu from which you can now
choose to boot to Safe Mode.

If however you are saying that even though you are choosing Safe Mode from
the boot menu that you are not getting into Safe Mode I have to ask are
you sure about this? Does this mean that, for example, you are still able
to access the internet? In which case I would suspect some sort of quirk
with NTLDR.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Ryan <ryanrhyme@excite.com> wrote:

> I have 3 OS installed (WINME (default), WIN2000 and WIN2003 Server).
> Everytime when I press F8 to go to the boot option menu and choose
> WinME to be booted into safe mode it would still proceed to boot into
> normal mode. Is there any settings that have been restted because of
> the muktiple OS installed? Please help and thanks in advance.
Anonymous
March 18, 2005 12:44:10 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

Mike/Ryan
I've run up against the same problem - and thought it was just me!<g>

What I think is happening is a communication problem.....

When you hit F8 on a multi-boot system and get to the Boot menu, the default
menu is the XP one (bearing in mind that I have XP and ME dual-booted, but
no triple-boot).
If you select Safe Mode from that - then go into XP - you will get XP Safe
Mode
If you select Safe Mode and select to go into ME, you will get Normal Mode -
UNLESS, you again immediately hit F8, - which will bring up the Win ME
Startup menu, which should then work as normal.
Timing is critical - and I find it easier (assuming it's a planned boot to
safe mode) to use Mike's MSCONFIG workaround.

HTH


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm

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"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:ePX04guKFHA.1620@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Ryan,
>
> Since you are having problems using F8 to reach Safe Mode (have you also
> tried Ctrl?) the following may be of help.
>
> Boot to Normal mode and open MSConfig (Start, Run enter MSConfig and click
> OK), open the General tab and then click Advanced and you will find there
> the option "Enable Startup Menu". Check this, OK out. close MSConfig and
> reboot. You should now be presented the boot menu from which you can now
> choose to boot to Safe Mode.
>
> If however you are saying that even though you are choosing Safe Mode from
> the boot menu that you are not getting into Safe Mode I have to ask are
> you sure about this? Does this mean that, for example, you are still able
> to access the internet? In which case I would suspect some sort of quirk
> with NTLDR.
> --
> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Ryan <ryanrhyme@excite.com> wrote:
>
>> I have 3 OS installed (WINME (default), WIN2000 and WIN2003 Server).
>> Everytime when I press F8 to go to the boot option menu and choose
>> WinME to be booted into safe mode it would still proceed to boot into
>> normal mode. Is there any settings that have been restted because of
>> the muktiple OS installed? Please help and thanks in advance.
>
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March 18, 2005 7:50:20 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

Yeah, it's been a while, but iirc that's exactly how it goes with Boot Magic
as opposed to the XP boot loader doing the job. But I always have the boot
menu come up anyway (in both systems) more-or-less for that reason.


Shane


"Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:el35ypzKFHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Mike/Ryan
> I've run up against the same problem - and thought it was just me!<g>
>
> What I think is happening is a communication problem.....
>
> When you hit F8 on a multi-boot system and get to the Boot menu, the
default
> menu is the XP one (bearing in mind that I have XP and ME dual-booted, but
> no triple-boot).
> If you select Safe Mode from that - then go into XP - you will get XP Safe
> Mode
> If you select Safe Mode and select to go into ME, you will get Normal
Mode -
> UNLESS, you again immediately hit F8, - which will bring up the Win ME
> Startup menu, which should then work as normal.
> Timing is critical - and I find it easier (assuming it's a planned boot to
> safe mode) to use Mike's MSCONFIG workaround.
>
> HTH
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>
> In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:ePX04guKFHA.1620@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Ryan,
> >
> > Since you are having problems using F8 to reach Safe Mode (have you also
> > tried Ctrl?) the following may be of help.
> >
> > Boot to Normal mode and open MSConfig (Start, Run enter MSConfig and
click
> > OK), open the General tab and then click Advanced and you will find
there
> > the option "Enable Startup Menu". Check this, OK out. close MSConfig
and
> > reboot. You should now be presented the boot menu from which you can
now
> > choose to boot to Safe Mode.
> >
> > If however you are saying that even though you are choosing Safe Mode
from
> > the boot menu that you are not getting into Safe Mode I have to ask are
> > you sure about this? Does this mean that, for example, you are still
able
> > to access the internet? In which case I would suspect some sort of
quirk
> > with NTLDR.
> > --
> > Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > Ryan <ryanrhyme@excite.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have 3 OS installed (WINME (default), WIN2000 and WIN2003 Server).
> >> Everytime when I press F8 to go to the boot option menu and choose
> >> WinME to be booted into safe mode it would still proceed to boot into
> >> normal mode. Is there any settings that have been restted because of
> >> the muktiple OS installed? Please help and thanks in advance.
> >
>
>
March 19, 2005 9:28:16 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

Hi all,

Thanks for all the inputs. You are right Noel, the initial F8 startup menu
is somehow only work for NT-based OS. To go into ME safe mode, after you
choose to boot up Windows ME, immediately press F5 to go into safe mode (or
press F8 to bring up the startup menu for ME). Thanks for Mike's
workaround, it's a useful input.

Let's just put it this way: the starting F8 key in the menu where you choose
which OS to boot (bootloader) just don't work for Non-NT OS. To boot Non-NT
OS into safe mode, simply do it in the conventional way: when the OS start
booting (when you see that huge Windows logo), immediately hit either CTRL,
F5 or F8 key.

Hope someone would explain why.

Cheers,
Ryan

"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:39v50uF65ej16U1@individual.net...
> Yeah, it's been a while, but iirc that's exactly how it goes with Boot
Magic
> as opposed to the XP boot loader doing the job. But I always have the boot
> menu come up anyway (in both systems) more-or-less for that reason.
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
> news:el35ypzKFHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Mike/Ryan
> > I've run up against the same problem - and thought it was just me!<g>
> >
> > What I think is happening is a communication problem.....
> >
> > When you hit F8 on a multi-boot system and get to the Boot menu, the
> default
> > menu is the XP one (bearing in mind that I have XP and ME dual-booted,
but
> > no triple-boot).
> > If you select Safe Mode from that - then go into XP - you will get XP
Safe
> > Mode
> > If you select Safe Mode and select to go into ME, you will get Normal
> Mode -
> > UNLESS, you again immediately hit F8, - which will bring up the Win ME
> > Startup menu, which should then work as normal.
> > Timing is critical - and I find it easier (assuming it's a planned boot
to
> > safe mode) to use Mike's MSCONFIG workaround.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
> > --
> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
> >
> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
> >
> > In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
> > http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
> >
> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
> >
> > "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> > news:ePX04guKFHA.1620@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > Ryan,
> > >
> > > Since you are having problems using F8 to reach Safe Mode (have you
also
> > > tried Ctrl?) the following may be of help.
> > >
> > > Boot to Normal mode and open MSConfig (Start, Run enter MSConfig and
> click
> > > OK), open the General tab and then click Advanced and you will find
> there
> > > the option "Enable Startup Menu". Check this, OK out. close MSConfig
> and
> > > reboot. You should now be presented the boot menu from which you can
> now
> > > choose to boot to Safe Mode.
> > >
> > > If however you are saying that even though you are choosing Safe Mode
> from
> > > the boot menu that you are not getting into Safe Mode I have to ask
are
> > > you sure about this? Does this mean that, for example, you are still
> able
> > > to access the internet? In which case I would suspect some sort of
> quirk
> > > with NTLDR.
> > > --
> > > Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Ryan <ryanrhyme@excite.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have 3 OS installed (WINME (default), WIN2000 and WIN2003 Server).
> > >> Everytime when I press F8 to go to the boot option menu and choose
> > >> WinME to be booted into safe mode it would still proceed to boot into
> > >> normal mode. Is there any settings that have been restted because of
> > >> the muktiple OS installed? Please help and thanks in advance.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
March 19, 2005 9:28:17 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

F8 also works - but you have to hit it a second time
The reason I think, is quite simple -
Having gone through the NT bootloader, the system is set for an NT boot.
If you then tell it "Hang on - I want to boot to 9x", the system is reset,
and you have to kick it awake again to the fact that you want the 9x startup
menu.

I hope that makes sense??


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Ryan" <ryanrhyme@excite.com> wrote in message
news:enHbC5GLFHA.4028@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for all the inputs. You are right Noel, the initial F8 startup
> menu
> is somehow only work for NT-based OS. To go into ME safe mode, after you
> choose to boot up Windows ME, immediately press F5 to go into safe mode
> (or
> press F8 to bring up the startup menu for ME). Thanks for Mike's
> workaround, it's a useful input.
>
> Let's just put it this way: the starting F8 key in the menu where you
> choose
> which OS to boot (bootloader) just don't work for Non-NT OS. To boot
> Non-NT
> OS into safe mode, simply do it in the conventional way: when the OS start
> booting (when you see that huge Windows logo), immediately hit either
> CTRL,
> F5 or F8 key.
>
> Hope someone would explain why.
>
> Cheers,
> Ryan
>
> "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:39v50uF65ej16U1@individual.net...
>> Yeah, it's been a while, but iirc that's exactly how it goes with Boot
> Magic
>> as opposed to the XP boot loader doing the job. But I always have the
>> boot
>> menu come up anyway (in both systems) more-or-less for that reason.
>>
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>> "Noel Paton" <NoelDPspamless@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:el35ypzKFHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > Mike/Ryan
>> > I've run up against the same problem - and thought it was just me!<g>
>> >
>> > What I think is happening is a communication problem.....
>> >
>> > When you hit F8 on a multi-boot system and get to the Boot menu, the
>> default
>> > menu is the XP one (bearing in mind that I have XP and ME dual-booted,
> but
>> > no triple-boot).
>> > If you select Safe Mode from that - then go into XP - you will get XP
> Safe
>> > Mode
>> > If you select Safe Mode and select to go into ME, you will get Normal
>> Mode -
>> > UNLESS, you again immediately hit F8, - which will bring up the Win ME
>> > Startup menu, which should then work as normal.
>> > Timing is critical - and I find it easier (assuming it's a planned boot
> to
>> > safe mode) to use Mike's MSCONFIG workaround.
>> >
>> > HTH
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
>> >
>> > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>> > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
>> >
>> > In fond memory of one of life's Gentlemen - Alex Nichol
>> > http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>> >
>> > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
> NG's
>> >
>> > "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
>> > news:ePX04guKFHA.1620@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > > Ryan,
>> > >
>> > > Since you are having problems using F8 to reach Safe Mode (have you
> also
>> > > tried Ctrl?) the following may be of help.
>> > >
>> > > Boot to Normal mode and open MSConfig (Start, Run enter MSConfig and
>> click
>> > > OK), open the General tab and then click Advanced and you will find
>> there
>> > > the option "Enable Startup Menu". Check this, OK out. close MSConfig
>> and
>> > > reboot. You should now be presented the boot menu from which you can
>> now
>> > > choose to boot to Safe Mode.
>> > >
>> > > If however you are saying that even though you are choosing Safe Mode
>> from
>> > > the boot menu that you are not getting into Safe Mode I have to ask
> are
>> > > you sure about this? Does this mean that, for example, you are still
>> able
>> > > to access the internet? In which case I would suspect some sort of
>> quirk
>> > > with NTLDR.
>> > > --
>> > > Mike Maltby MS-MVP
>> > > mike.maltby@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ryan <ryanrhyme@excite.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I have 3 OS installed (WINME (default), WIN2000 and WIN2003 Server).
>> > >> Everytime when I press F8 to go to the boot option menu and choose
>> > >> WinME to be booted into safe mode it would still proceed to boot
>> > >> into
>> > >> normal mode. Is there any settings that have been restted because of
>> > >> the muktiple OS installed? Please help and thanks in advance.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
March 19, 2005 9:28:17 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

I don't really understand your current problem. You've already told us
that Ctrl, F5 or F8 as Win Me loads takes you to Win Me's Safe Mode so
what more is it you want? Prior to that point it's the NT loader that's
running the show. Admittedly you need to be pretty nippy to click F8 as
Win Me boots as the window of opportunity is so much shorter now which is
where enabling the Win Me boot menu as mentioned in my earlier post helps.

For myself I avoid the problem to some degree by using a third party boot
manager, in my case BING (www.bootitng.com), as I find it much more
flexible than the NT loader.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Ryan <ryanrhyme@excite.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all the inputs. You are right Noel, the initial F8
> startup menu is somehow only work for NT-based OS. To go into ME
> safe mode, after you choose to boot up Windows ME, immediately press
> F5 to go into safe mode (or press F8 to bring up the startup menu for
> ME). Thanks for Mike's workaround, it's a useful input.
>
> Let's just put it this way: the starting F8 key in the menu where you
> choose which OS to boot (bootloader) just don't work for Non-NT OS.
> To boot Non-NT OS into safe mode, simply do it in the conventional
> way: when the OS start booting (when you see that huge Windows logo),
> immediately hit either CTRL, F5 or F8 key.
>
> Hope someone would explain why.
!