Need suggestions for a 3D workstation + gaming machine.

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Okay well i'm looking at building another computer but I've been out of
the computer world for a while and basically need a bit of advice on
what to put in my new machine.

The last computer I built (which i'm using now) was 3 years ago and has
Asus a7v333, RAID, amd xp 1500+, geforce 3 3500 etc.

This WAS great bit the old machine is a tad slow for what I want it for
which is basically 3D stuff like 3DSMAX 6 and a good old game of
Halflife 2 and possibly Doom 3.

Bearing this in mind I would like to go for an AMD 64 bit chip but
havent got a clue what motherboard to go for. Would I even be better off
with an AMD XP chip? Maybe some pointers to sites for me to grab info
from would be great.

Any help would be wonderful. What should I go for? (mid range prices)

Many Regards

Dan B
 
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"Dan B" <danspam@happylobster.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Okay well i'm looking at building another computer but I've been out of
> the computer world for a while and basically need a bit of advice on
> what to put in my new machine.
>
> The last computer I built (which i'm using now) was 3 years ago and has
> Asus a7v333, RAID, amd xp 1500+, geforce 3 3500 etc.
>
> This WAS great bit the old machine is a tad slow for what I want it for
> which is basically 3D stuff like 3DSMAX 6 and a good old game of
> Halflife 2 and possibly Doom 3.
>
> Bearing this in mind I would like to go for an AMD 64 bit chip but
> havent got a clue what motherboard to go for. Would I even be better off
> with an AMD XP chip? Maybe some pointers to sites for me to grab info
> from would be great.
>
> Any help would be wonderful. What should I go for? (mid range prices)
>
> Many Regards
>
> Dan B

OK, go for a lower-end socket 939 CPU with any decent name-brand motherboard
and anywhere from 512MB to 1GB of DDR400 PC3200 RAM. A geforce 6600 video
card for about $230. You don't want an XP chip for playing HL2 or Doom3.
But you don't need the most expensive Athlon64 chip available either, so
that's why I said aim for the lower end of the socket 939. Or, something
like this, from newegg:

Qty Product Item # Unit Price Qty x Price

MSI "K8T NEO2-F" VIA K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard for AMD
Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD Athlon 64/Athlon 64 FX
Chipset: K8T800Pro + VT8237
FSB: HyperTransport 1000/800/600MHz
RAM: 4x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 4GB
Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI
IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
SATA: 2x Serial ATA with RAID 0/1
Ports: 2x PS/2, 1x COM, 1x LPT, 8x USB2.0(Rear 4), 1x RJ45, 1x
S/PDIF out, 1x IrDA, 5 audio ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC850 8-CH
Onboard LAN: Realtek 8110S Gbt Ethernet
Form Factor: ATX more info-> N82E16813130469 $100.00 $100.00


AOpen nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT Video Card, 128MB GDDR3,
128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, AGP 8X, Model "91.05210.666" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT/500MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB GDDR3/1000MHz
BUS: AGP 8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + TV-Out (S-Video/Composite) + DVI
Support 3D API: DirectX 9(Shader Model 3.0), OpenGL 1.5
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
RAMDACs: 400MHz
Retail Box (See pics for details) more info-> N82E16814135156
$228.00 $228.00


Thermaltake Silent PurePower, 420W ATX power supply.UL, CSA,
TUV, CE Approved. Intel Pentium 4 Compliant
Specifications:
Type: ATX
Maximum Power: 420W
PFC: No
Power Good Signal: 100-500ms
Hold-up Time: >16ms at Full Load
Efficiency: >65%
Over Voltage Protection: +5V trip point<+6.8V;+3.3V trip
point<+4.5V;+12V trip point<+15.6V
Overload Protection: Not specified
Input Voltage: 115 VAC / 230VAC
Input Frequency Range: 47-63 Hz
Input Current: 10.0A (Measuring 90-132Vrms);5.0A (Measuring
180-264Vrms)
Output: +3.3V@30A;+5V@40A;-5V@0.3A;+12V@18A;-12V@0.8A;+5VSB@2A
more info-> N82E16817153006 $36.99 $36.99


AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit
Processor - Retail
Specifications:
Model: Athlon 64 3200+
Core: Winchester
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/ 512KB
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 90nm
Socket: Socket 939
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Warranty: 3-year MFG
Packaging: Retail(with Heatsink and Fan) more info->
N82E16819103502 $240.00 $240.00


Geil Value Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200
Specifications:
Manufacturer: Geil
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 2.5-6-3-3
Support Voltage: 2.55V-2.85V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: 64M x 64 -Bit
Special Features: With Extreme Performance Heat Spreader
Warranty: Lifetime more info-> N82E16820144305 $82.00 $82.00




Subtotal » $686.99





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Dan B wrote:
> Okay well i'm looking at building another computer but I've been out of
> the computer world for a while and basically need a bit of advice on
> what to put in my new machine.
>
> The last computer I built (which i'm using now) was 3 years ago and has
> Asus a7v333, RAID, amd xp 1500+, geforce 3 3500 etc.
>
> This WAS great bit the old machine is a tad slow for what I want it for
> which is basically 3D stuff like 3DSMAX 6 and a good old game of
> Halflife 2 and possibly Doom 3.
>
> Bearing this in mind I would like to go for an AMD 64 bit chip but
> havent got a clue what motherboard to go for. Would I even be better off
> with an AMD XP chip? Maybe some pointers to sites for me to grab info
> from would be great.
>
> Any help would be wonderful. What should I go for? (mid range prices)
>
> Many Regards
>
> Dan B

Oh yeah would I need a PSU upgrade for a motherboard running an Athlon
64 chip from the one I was running before?
 
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On Sunday 26 December 2004 09:54, Dave C. <mdupre@sff.net> wrote:

> "Dan B" <danspam@happylobster.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:cqmh10$9s8$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
>> Okay well i'm looking at building another computer but I've been out of
>> the computer world for a while and basically need a bit of advice on
>> what to put in my new machine.
>
> OK, go for a lower-end socket 939 CPU with any decent name-brand
> motherboard and anywhere from 512MB to 1GB of DDR400 PC3200 RAM. A
> GeForce 6600 video card for about $230.

I would suggest that you substitute the 6600GT for a 6800NU -- for about
$US30-110 more, this card has a very decent success rate for unlocking up
to a 6800 GT, and will offer superior performance even when left at the
factory settings. I've heard good things about the BFG and eVGA cards,
especially; the only vendors you'll need to stay away from are XFX and
Asus (although they are usually arguably good, Asus's V9999 gamer edition
is some sort of experiment on how much marketing BS they can tack onto a
piece of hardware).
--
Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information
available.

- Benford's Law of Controversy
 
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Dan B:

> Maybe some pointers to sites for me to grab info
> from would be great.

My favorite:
http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/system-guide-200411.ars/3

Here is a gaming specific build, a few months old but still relevant:
http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/gaming-08-30-2004.ars/2

I would recommend a PCI-E motherboard and video card if you like to game.
It will insure that you can upgrade your video card in 12-18 months if you
wish.

Something like a Leadtek 6600GT and Gigabyte GA-K8NF-9
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