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December 29, 2004 5:50:29 PM

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Hi
I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
system 40c.
Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
in the manual about it.
Thanks for any help or ideas.

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Anonymous
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December 30, 2004 3:18:01 AM

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Anthropy wrote:

> Hi
> I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
> The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
> Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
> increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
> i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
> system 40c.
> Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
> hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
> in the manual about it.
> Thanks for any help or ideas.
>

Well, is it a 266 or a 333 FSB 2600+ XP?
Anonymous
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December 30, 2004 3:26:37 AM

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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:50:29 GMT Not alowing their prejudice to rule
their future Anthropy <blah@bogus.com> wrote :

>Hi
> I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
>The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
>Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>system 40c.
>Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
>hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
>in the manual about it.
>Thanks for any help or ideas.

What's the board's full number/revision?
Also are you trying to Over clock?



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December 30, 2004 3:49:47 AM

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Anthropy:

> Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
> increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
> i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
> system 40c.

The system temp is high. Is that the temp at idle or at load? Try running
with the case opened and see if the temps go down and/or rebooting problem
stops. If it does, you need better ventilation.
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Anonymous
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December 30, 2004 5:18:13 AM

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Anthropy wrote:
> Hi
> I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
> The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
> Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
> increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
> i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
> system 40c.
> Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
> hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
> in the manual about it.
> Thanks for any help or ideas.
>

What's the temp of the video card GPU?

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December 30, 2004 5:18:14 AM

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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:18:13 +0800, spodosaurus
<spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote:

>Anthropy wrote:
>> Hi
>> I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
>> The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
>> Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>> increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>> i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>> system 40c.
>> Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
>> hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
>> in the manual about it.
>> Thanks for any help or ideas.
>>
>
>What's the temp of the video card GPU?

My video card is a Geforce 440. I don't know how to get a temperature
reading from it. There's nothing in the software.
My PC uses DDR 400 Ram and the video card SDRAM. Could that be the
cause of anything?
Thanks
December 30, 2004 5:45:58 PM

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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:18:01 -0600, David Maynard <dNOTmayn@ev1.net>
wrote:

>Anthropy wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
>> The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
>> Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>> increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>> i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>> system 40c.
>> Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
>> hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
>> in the manual about it.
>> Thanks for any help or ideas.
>>
>
>Well, is it a 266 or a 333 FSB 2600+ XP?

I'm not sure. how do I find out?
Anonymous
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December 30, 2004 6:33:26 PM

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Anthropy wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:18:13 +0800, spodosaurus
> <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Anthropy wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>> I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
>>>The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
>>>Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>>>increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>>>i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>>>system 40c.
>>>Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
>>>hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
>>>in the manual about it.
>>>Thanks for any help or ideas.
>>>
>>
>>What's the temp of the video card GPU?
>
>
> My video card is a Geforce 440. I don't know how to get a temperature
> reading from it. There's nothing in the software.
> My PC uses DDR 400 Ram and the video card SDRAM. Could that be the
> cause of anything?
> Thanks
>

Nah, and old card like that shouldn't be overheating unless its fan has
died, assuming it has a fan.

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December 30, 2004 6:34:10 PM

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Mac Cool wrote:
> Anthropy:
>
>
>>Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>>increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>>i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>>system 40c.
>
>
> The system temp is high.

No it isn't.

> Is that the temp at idle or at load? Try running
> with the case opened and see if the temps go down and/or rebooting problem
> stops. If it does, you need better ventilation.

That never hurts.


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December 30, 2004 6:34:11 PM

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spodosaurus:

>>>The CPU temperature is about 50c and the system 40c.
>>
>> The system temp is high.
>
> No it isn't.

It's winter. 40c is warmer than any system I've had,
including my old t-bird which idled at 54c. 40c is not too hot, but it
indicates to me that either the OP has poor ventilation, the case is in a
stuffy, poorly ventilated area or he/she has a high ambient wintertime
temperature in their house. Considering the OP has symptoms that can be
caused by heat, I think it's worth taking a look at.
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Anonymous
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December 30, 2004 6:36:57 PM

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David Maynard wrote:
> Anthropy wrote:
>
>> Hi I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
>> The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
>> Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>> increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>> i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>> system 40c.
>> Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
>> hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
>> in the manual about it.
>> Thanks for any help or ideas.
>>
>
> Well, is it a 266 or a 333 FSB 2600+ XP?
>

Did they even make any Thoroughbred (133/266) 2600+ CPUs?

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Anonymous
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December 30, 2004 6:36:58 PM

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spodosaurus wrote:

> David Maynard wrote:
>
>> Anthropy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
>>> The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
>>> Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>>> increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>>> i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>>> system 40c.
>>> Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
>>> hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
>>> in the manual about it.
>>> Thanks for any help or ideas.
>>>
>>
>> Well, is it a 266 or a 333 FSB 2600+ XP?
>>
>
> Did they even make any Thoroughbred (133/266) 2600+ CPUs?
>

Well, if they didn't then there's some sellers who're going to have a heck
of a time providing what they're advertising.

https://www.prismblue.com/shopping/product_details.php?... is one.
December 30, 2004 6:36:59 PM

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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:29:00 -0600, David Maynard <dNOTmayn@ev1.net>
wrote:

>spodosaurus wrote:
>
>> David Maynard wrote:
>>
>>> Anthropy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
>>>> The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
>>>> Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>>>> increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>>>> i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>>>> system 40c.
>>>> Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
>>>> hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
>>>> in the manual about it.
>>>> Thanks for any help or ideas.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, is it a 266 or a 333 FSB 2600+ XP?
>>>
>>
>> Did they even make any Thoroughbred (133/266) 2600+ CPUs?
>>
>
>Well, if they didn't then there's some sellers who're going to have a heck
>of a time providing what they're advertising.
>
>https://www.prismblue.com/shopping/product_details.php?... is one.

Hi, thanks for the help.
The chip was sold to me as a an AMD Athlon 2,6 xp. CPUz (chip
diagnostic prog) says it's more like 2.
The board name is Jetway V2MDMP, 500mb DDR 400, H/D (80g)
and the manual lists this CPU as compatible and I am not overclocking.
At the point when the PC reboots the temperature is about 50c (CPU)
and 40c (board) so I don't think overheating is an issue.
I've had the FSB set at 133 for a couple of days running very
intensive software and no problems. Could it be a fault in the CPU?
Thanks again for any suggestions or ideas
Anonymous
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December 30, 2004 6:37:00 PM

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Anthropy wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:29:00 -0600, David Maynard <dNOTmayn@ev1.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>spodosaurus wrote:
>>
>>
>>>David Maynard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Anthropy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
>>>>>The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
>>>>>Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>>>>>increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>>>>>i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>>>>>system 40c.
>>>>>Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
>>>>>hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
>>>>>in the manual about it.
>>>>>Thanks for any help or ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well, is it a 266 or a 333 FSB 2600+ XP?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Did they even make any Thoroughbred (133/266) 2600+ CPUs?
>>>
>>
>>Well, if they didn't then there's some sellers who're going to have a heck
>>of a time providing what they're advertising.
>>
>>https://www.prismblue.com/shopping/product_details.php?... is one.
>
>
> Hi, thanks for the help.
> The chip was sold to me as a an AMD Athlon 2,6 xp. CPUz (chip
> diagnostic prog) says it's more like 2.

2600 isn't the MHz of the processor, it's a 'rating' and the nomenclature
is XP 2600+, with a PLUS sign (consider the + sign a 'tip' that it isn't MHz).

Near as I can tell a 266 FSB XP 2600+ should be running 2.133Ghz.

A 333 FSB 2600+ would be running 2.083GHz IF it were on a 333 FSB. With the
266 (133 MHz) you're having to run to be stable it would be 1667GHz and
that isn't anywhere close to your 'more like 2' number. So, off hand, I'd
say you have a 266 FSB XP2600+ and the 'more like' number is probably 2.133Ghz.

As to your previous post asking how you can tell, it's written on the
processor package.


> The board name is Jetway V2MDMP, 500mb DDR 400, H/D (80g)
> and the manual lists this CPU as compatible and I am not overclocking.
> At the point when the PC reboots the temperature is about 50c (CPU)
> and 40c (board) so I don't think overheating is an issue.
> I've had the FSB set at 133 for a couple of days running very
> intensive software and no problems. Could it be a fault in the CPU?
> Thanks again for any suggestions or ideas
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December 30, 2004 9:42:13 PM

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"Anthropy" <blah@bogus.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:29:00 -0600, David Maynard <dNOTmayn@ev1.net>
> wrote:
>
> >spodosaurus wrote:
> >
> >> David Maynard wrote:
> >>
> >>> Anthropy wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD
2.6.xp
> >>>> The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
> >>>> Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
> >>>> increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
> >>>> i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
> >>>> system 40c.
> >>>> Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
> >>>> hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's
nothing
> >>>> in the manual about it.
> >>>> Thanks for any help or ideas.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Well, is it a 266 or a 333 FSB 2600+ XP?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Did they even make any Thoroughbred (133/266) 2600+ CPUs?
> >>
> >
> >Well, if they didn't then there's some sellers who're going to have a
heck
> >of a time providing what they're advertising.
> >
> >https://www.prismblue.com/shopping/product_details.php?... is one.
>
> Hi, thanks for the help.
> The chip was sold to me as a an AMD Athlon 2,6 xp. CPUz (chip
> diagnostic prog) says it's more like 2.
> The board name is Jetway V2MDMP, 500mb DDR 400, H/D (80g)
> and the manual lists this CPU as compatible and I am not overclocking.
> At the point when the PC reboots the temperature is about 50c (CPU)
> and 40c (board) so I don't think overheating is an issue.
> I've had the FSB set at 133 for a couple of days running very
> intensive software and no problems. Could it be a fault in the CPU?
> Thanks again for any suggestions or ideas
You may have the 266FSB, in which case it is working correctly. Check
the numbers on the chip on Google.
Spec of 266 chip is Product Description AMD Athlon MP 2600+ / 2.13 GHz
processor
Product Type Processor
Processor Type AMD Athlon MP
Processor Qty 1
Performance Index 2600+
Clock Speed 2.13 GHz
Bus Speed 266 MHz
Cache Memory L2 Pipeline Burst - 256 KB
Compatible Slots 1 x processor - Socket A
Manufacturer Warranty 3 years warranty
Stockcode CPUMP.2600TC
Manufacturer AMD
Last Updated 17/06/2004 16:37:24
1st Class Del No

Mike.
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December 31, 2004 12:56:03 AM

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Jetway isn't known for quality.They are best known for low price. That said,
there are a few things you can try. If possible,set the BIOS to default or
failsafe setting.Then, raise the vdimm voltage in the BIOS by .1v at a
time.Also,try changing the CAS setting in the BIOS memory settings. Try 2.5 or
even 3.0. Go to this website for everything about BIOS settings.
http://www.rojakpot.com/Speed_Demonz/BIOS_Guide/BIOS_Gu...


>>>>> Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>>>>> increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
Anonymous
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December 31, 2004 9:54:55 PM

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Anthropy wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:29:00 -0600, David Maynard <dNOTmayn@ev1.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>spodosaurus wrote:
>>
>>
>>>David Maynard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Anthropy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
>>>>>The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
>>>>>Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>>>>>increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>>>>>i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>>>>>system 40c.
>>>>>Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
>>>>>hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
>>>>>in the manual about it.
>>>>>Thanks for any help or ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well, is it a 266 or a 333 FSB 2600+ XP?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Did they even make any Thoroughbred (133/266) 2600+ CPUs?
>>>
>>
>>Well, if they didn't then there's some sellers who're going to have a heck
>>of a time providing what they're advertising.
>>
>>https://www.prismblue.com/shopping/product_details.php?... is one.
>
>
> Hi, thanks for the help.
> The chip was sold to me as a an AMD Athlon 2,6 xp. CPUz (chip
> diagnostic prog) says it's more like 2.

That's the clock speed, which has little to do with the 2600+ rating,
which is how it compares to intel processors in terms of performance.

What we're talking about here is that there were two Athlon XP 2600+ CPU
types released with different cores. One with an FSB of 133, and another
with an FSB of 166. If you have one designed to be used at 133, that
could be part of your problem! Though I would expect the heat to be
significantly higher at 166 if that were the case.

> The board name is Jetway V2MDMP, 500mb DDR 400, H/D (80g)
> and the manual lists this CPU as compatible and I am not overclocking.
> At the point when the PC reboots the temperature is about 50c (CPU)
> and 40c (board) so I don't think overheating is an issue.
> I've had the FSB set at 133 for a couple of days running very
> intensive software and no problems. Could it be a fault in the CPU?
> Thanks again for any suggestions or ideas


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of the story, as a result of this I need a bone marrow transplant. Many
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http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/
December 31, 2004 11:30:59 PM

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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:44:43 -0600, David Maynard <dNOTmayn@ev1.net>
wrote:

>Anthropy wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:29:00 -0600, David Maynard <dNOTmayn@ev1.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>spodosaurus wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>David Maynard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Anthropy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
>>>>>>The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
>>>>>>Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>>>>>>increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>>>>>>i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>>>>>>system 40c.
>>>>>>Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
>>>>>>hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
>>>>>>in the manual about it.
>>>>>>Thanks for any help or ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, is it a 266 or a 333 FSB 2600+ XP?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Did they even make any Thoroughbred (133/266) 2600+ CPUs?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Well, if they didn't then there's some sellers who're going to have a heck
>>>of a time providing what they're advertising.
>>>
>>>https://www.prismblue.com/shopping/product_details.php?... is one.
>>
>>
>> Hi, thanks for the help.
>> The chip was sold to me as a an AMD Athlon 2,6 xp. CPUz (chip
>> diagnostic prog) says it's more like 2.
>
>2600 isn't the MHz of the processor, it's a 'rating' and the nomenclature
>is XP 2600+, with a PLUS sign (consider the + sign a 'tip' that it isn't MHz).
>
>Near as I can tell a 266 FSB XP 2600+ should be running 2.133Ghz.
>
>A 333 FSB 2600+ would be running 2.083GHz IF it were on a 333 FSB. With the
>266 (133 MHz) you're having to run to be stable it would be 1667GHz and
>that isn't anywhere close to your 'more like 2' number. So, off hand, I'd
>say you have a 266 FSB XP2600+ and the 'more like' number is probably 2.133Ghz.
>
>As to your previous post asking how you can tell, it's written on the
>processor package.
>
I have never seen the processor package as I had the dealer install
the CPU, it was a deal, board and chip (hangs head in shame) and I'm
quite new to all this. After hearing so many horror stories concerning
slipped screwdrivers it seemed the sane thing to do.
Is there any other way to correctly determine the CPU's FSB ? I have
run diagnostic progs but I'm sure they produce info based on the
current settings in the BIOS, not the integrity of the CPU. If I'm
wrong please tell me.
Thanks again and happy new year to all


>> The board name is Jetway V2MDMP, 500mb DDR 400, H/D (80g)
>> and the manual lists this CPU as compatible and I am not overclocking.
>> At the point when the PC reboots the temperature is about 50c (CPU)
>> and 40c (board) so I don't think overheating is an issue.
>> I've had the FSB set at 133 for a couple of days running very
>> intensive software and no problems. Could it be a fault in the CPU?
>> Thanks again for any suggestions or ideas
December 31, 2004 11:38:23 PM

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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 18:54:55 +0800, spodosaurus
<spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote:

>Anthropy wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 02:29:00 -0600, David Maynard <dNOTmayn@ev1.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>spodosaurus wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>David Maynard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Anthropy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi I recently bought a new Jetway Motherboard and an Athlon AMD 2.6.xp
>>>>>>The RAM is 500mb DDR 400 and is new. The power supply is 450w.
>>>>>>Everything is fine if I set the FSB to 133MHz (default) but when I
>>>>>>increase it to 166MHz the PC reboots when I run a demanding program
>>>>>>i.e game, video editing etc. The CPU temperature is about 50c and the
>>>>>>system 40c.
>>>>>>Am I supposed to do something in the BIOS after I've changed the
>>>>>>hardware FSB jumper?(the current setting is "optimum") There's nothing
>>>>>>in the manual about it.
>>>>>>Thanks for any help or ideas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, is it a 266 or a 333 FSB 2600+ XP?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Did they even make any Thoroughbred (133/266) 2600+ CPUs?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Well, if they didn't then there's some sellers who're going to have a heck
>>>of a time providing what they're advertising.
>>>
>>>https://www.prismblue.com/shopping/product_details.php?... is one.
>>
>>
>> Hi, thanks for the help.
>> The chip was sold to me as a an AMD Athlon 2,6 xp. CPUz (chip
>> diagnostic prog) says it's more like 2.
>
>That's the clock speed, which has little to do with the 2600+ rating,
>which is how it compares to intel processors in terms of performance.
>
>What we're talking about here is that there were two Athlon XP 2600+ CPU
>types released with different cores. One with an FSB of 133, and another
>with an FSB of 166. If you have one designed to be used at 133, that
>could be part of your problem! Though I would expect the heat to be
>significantly higher at 166 if that were the case.

Thanks again. I obviously need some education regarding CPU's. Can you
recommend a site or knowledge base?. I know I could Google the
subject and get millions of hits but maybe you or anyone else could
point me in the direction of a tried and trusted knowledge base
bearing in mind I'm relatively new to the internal workings of PC's..
Thanks and happy new year.
>
>> The board name is Jetway V2MDMP, 500mb DDR 400, H/D (80g)
>> and the manual lists this CPU as compatible and I am not overclocking.
>> At the point when the PC reboots the temperature is about 50c (CPU)
>> and 40c (board) so I don't think overheating is an issue.
>> I've had the FSB set at 133 for a couple of days running very
>> intensive software and no problems. Could it be a fault in the CPU?
>> Thanks again for any suggestions or ideas
January 1, 2005 12:01:36 AM

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Here are the results of CPUz.

AMD Athlon XP

Code name: Thoroughbred
Socket A
Technology: 0.13u
Voltage: 1.632v
Family 6. Model 8. Stepping 1.
Ext family 7. Ext Model 8. Revision B0

Clocks

Core speed: 1662.8 MHz
Multiplier: x12.5
FSB: 133.0 MHz
Bus speed 266 MHz.

I'm not sure if this info pertains to the integrity of the CPU or is
merely a list of the BIOS settings..
Thanks for any help.
Anonymous
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January 1, 2005 1:01:32 AM

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Anthropy wrote:

> Here are the results of CPUz.
>
> AMD Athlon XP
>
> Code name: Thoroughbred
> Socket A
> Technology: 0.13u
> Voltage: 1.632v
> Family 6. Model 8. Stepping 1.
> Ext family 7. Ext Model 8. Revision B0
>
> Clocks
>
> Core speed: 1662.8 MHz
> Multiplier: x12.5
> FSB: 133.0 MHz
> Bus speed 266 MHz.
>
> I'm not sure if this info pertains to the integrity of the CPU or is
> merely a list of the BIOS settings..
> Thanks for any help.

Well, 1662.8 Mhz isn't the 'more like 2' gig number you previously mentioned.

12.5 x 166.6 = 2083, the correct speed for a 2600+. That's a 333 FSB 2600+ XP.
Anonymous
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January 2, 2005 3:06:06 AM

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Is that a problem? I read the subject, and was thinking . . . AND???

That is, what is the computer doing that you shouldn't EXPECT it to
o? -Dave
January 2, 2005 8:07:39 AM

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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 00:06:06 -0500, "Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote:

>Is that a problem? I read the subject, and was thinking . . . AND???
>
>That is, what is the computer doing that you shouldn't EXPECT it to
>o? -Dave
>
Reboot whenever a demanding program is run.
Anonymous
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January 2, 2005 8:07:40 AM

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"Anthropy" <blah@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:rg0ft0tb39tikrqifk4glslr0gtn4kpuj1@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 00:06:06 -0500, "Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote:
>
>>Is that a problem? I read the subject, and was thinking . . . AND???
>>
>>That is, what is the computer doing that you shouldn't EXPECT it to
>>o? -Dave
>>
> Reboot whenever a demanding program is run.

While severely overclocked. Ummm, no . . . that is not a reasonable
expectation. Many systems running OK overclocked does not mean that any
particular system will be guaranteed to be stable if you force it to do
something it wasn't designed to do. If you push a system beyond it's limits
EXPECT instability. And be very relieved if you do NOT encounter it. But
don't post here complaining that your system is doing exactly what you
should expect it to do. -Dave
January 2, 2005 7:31:30 PM

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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 01:32:56 -0500, "Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote:

>
>"Anthropy" <blah@bogus.com> wrote in message
>news:rg0ft0tb39tikrqifk4glslr0gtn4kpuj1@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 00:06:06 -0500, "Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Is that a problem? I read the subject, and was thinking . . . AND???
>>>
>>>That is, what is the computer doing that you shouldn't EXPECT it to
>>>o? -Dave
>>>
>> Reboot whenever a demanding program is run.
>
>While severely overclocked. Ummm, no . . . that is not a reasonable
>expectation. Many systems running OK overclocked does not mean that any
>particular system will be guaranteed to be stable if you force it to do
>something it wasn't designed to do. If you push a system beyond it's limits
>EXPECT instability. And be very relieved if you do NOT encounter it. But
>don't post here complaining that your system is doing exactly what you
>should expect it to do. -Dave
>

Dave, thanks for your help but if you read the thread who will see
that the PC is not overclocked nor is it doing anything it wasn't
designed to do.
Anonymous
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January 2, 2005 7:31:31 PM

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>>While severely overclocked. Ummm, no . . . that is not a reasonable
>>expectation. Many systems running OK overclocked does not mean that any
>>particular system will be guaranteed to be stable if you force it to do
>>something it wasn't designed to do. If you push a system beyond it's
>>limits
>>EXPECT instability. And be very relieved if you do NOT encounter it. But
>>don't post here complaining that your system is doing exactly what you
>>should expect it to do. -Dave
>>
>
> Dave, thanks for your help but if you read the thread who will see
> that the PC is not overclocked nor is it doing anything it wasn't
> designed to do.

Actually, after reviewing the entire thread, I'm pretty sure that your CPU
is overclocked at 166. First, it is ACTING like it is overclocked at 166.
Second, if your vendor didn't specify which version of chip you were sold,
it's practically guaranteed that you got the 133 version.

I stand by my original assertion. If you have a system set properly at 133,
it's fine. If you overclock it by raising the FSB to 166, it becomes
unstable. This is not a problem, but rather an expected result. -Dave
January 2, 2005 8:45:04 PM

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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:45:58 -0500, "Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote:

>
>>>While severely overclocked. Ummm, no . . . that is not a reasonable
>>>expectation. Many systems running OK overclocked does not mean that any
>>>particular system will be guaranteed to be stable if you force it to do
>>>something it wasn't designed to do. If you push a system beyond it's
>>>limits
>>>EXPECT instability. And be very relieved if you do NOT encounter it. But
>>>don't post here complaining that your system is doing exactly what you
>>>should expect it to do. -Dave
>>>
>>
>> Dave, thanks for your help but if you read the thread who will see
>> that the PC is not overclocked nor is it doing anything it wasn't
>> designed to do.
>
>Actually, after reviewing the entire thread, I'm pretty sure that your CPU
>is overclocked at 166. First, it is ACTING like it is overclocked at 166.
>Second, if your vendor didn't specify which version of chip you were sold,
>it's practically guaranteed that you got the 133 version.
>
>I stand by my original assertion. If you have a system set properly at 133,
>it's fine. If you overclock it by raising the FSB to 166, it becomes
>unstable. This is not a problem, but rather an expected result. -Dave
>
Yes , that could be the reason but as a previous poster suggested the
temperature reading of the overclocked CPU would be reading a lot
higher than it is, i.e CPU 45c, Mobo 40c. Hot but not hot enough to
cause instant rebooting. Also another poster, using the info supplied
by CPUz (CPU diagnostic prog) worked out that the CPU is a 333,

>12.5 x 166.6 = 2083, the correct speed for a 2600+. That's a 333 FSB 2600+ XP.

Of course I'm quite new to all this so if you have any other ideas,
feel free to mention.
Thanks
!