Heirloom's F-Prot

[job]

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Texican,

I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot to
run virus scan in DOS.
Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I downloaded
"F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest virus
definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot from
floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1 went
okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
(2,237KB).

F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too big
to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a computer
in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."

Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while in
the DOS mode? If so, how?


Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can prevent
being old."

 

[Guest]

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As you may have read in the other thread.......I do not use F-Prot, never
have. You must have seen posts from someone else on that topic. However, I
would think that if you put the F-Prot files on a bootable CD, it ought to
work. Heather is the expert, she will be along shortly to correct me, I'm
sure.
Heirloom, old and must build a new machine
(I don't even have a CD burner)

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Texican,
>
> I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot to
> run virus scan in DOS.
> Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I downloaded
> "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest virus
> definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot from
> floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
> Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1 went
> okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
> copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> (2,237KB).
>
> F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too big
> to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
> disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
> use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a computer
> in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
>
> Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while in
> the DOS mode? If so, how?
>
>
> Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can prevent
> being old."
>
>
>

 

[job]

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Well.....thought ...it was...you. I probably had a "senior
moment". I'm having them more often nowadays. I was just
trying to give you a chance to excel <G>.


Job says, "Heck, it's too late at night to think of tags."


"heirloom" <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
news:%23cUPeYZOFHA.2532@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> As you may have read in the other thread.......I do not
use F-Prot, never
> have. You must have seen posts from someone else on that
topic. However, I
> would think that if you put the F-Prot files on a bootable
CD, it ought to
> work. Heather is the expert, she will be along shortly to
correct me, I'm
> sure.
> Heirloom, old and must build a new
machine
> (I don't even have a CD burner)
>
> "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Texican,
> >
> > I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot
to
> > run virus scan in DOS.
> > Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I
downloaded
> > "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest
virus
> > definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot
from
> > floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
> > Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1
went
> > okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
> > copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> > (2,237KB).
> >
> > F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too
big
> > to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
> > disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
> > use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a
computer
> > in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
> >
> > Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while
in
> > the DOS mode? If so, how?
> >
> >
> > Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can
prevent
> > being old."
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Heather]

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Sure.....ask me a question I can't answer, grin!! It used to fit on one
floppy, believe it or not. I have never made use of it that way. I just
have it on my desktop and run that every month or so. It will catch viruses
that often the others don't......got Kakworm years ago, long before Norton
knew it existed and then I got instructions from one of the antivirus guys
on how to remove it.

Art Kopp (are you reading this, Art???) used to have an updater for it and a
"how to" IIRC, but doesn't anymore. I did see someone recently on the
antivirus group who has the instructions on their website.....I will see
what I can find.

But why do you need to put it on a CD?? Or are you planning to set up a
virus cleaning business, grin.
My neighbours think I should start a company and wear t-shirts on my Dolly
Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E V-I-R-U-S!!

I will see what I the guys say on a.c.v.

Auntie Virus.....
Why use Shampoo........use REAL poo. (heh heh......another favourite)

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Texican,
>
> I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot to
> run virus scan in DOS.
> Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I downloaded
> "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest virus
> definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot from
> floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
> Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1 went
> okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
> copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> (2,237KB).
>
> F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too big
> to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
> disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
> use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a computer
> in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
>
> Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while in
> the DOS mode? If so, how?
>
>
> Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can prevent
> being old."
>
>
>

 

[Guest]

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or if you want the translation, Heather says to put it on your hard
disk, boot from your EBD, navigate to the directory it's in and run it
from there.


Rick

Heather wrote:
> Sure.....ask me a question I can't answer, grin!! It used to fit on one
> floppy, believe it or not. I have never made use of it that way. I just
> have it on my desktop and run that every month or so. It will catch viruses
> that often the others don't......got Kakworm years ago, long before Norton
> knew it existed and then I got instructions from one of the antivirus guys
> on how to remove it.
>
> Art Kopp (are you reading this, Art???) used to have an updater for it and a
> "how to" IIRC, but doesn't anymore. I did see someone recently on the
> antivirus group who has the instructions on their website.....I will see
> what I can find.
>
> But why do you need to put it on a CD?? Or are you planning to set up a
> virus cleaning business, grin.
> My neighbours think I should start a company and wear t-shirts on my Dolly
> Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E V-I-R-U-S!!
>
> I will see what I the guys say on a.c.v.
>
> Auntie Virus.....
> Why use Shampoo........use REAL poo. (heh heh......another favourite)
>
> "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>>Texican,
>>
>>I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot to
>>run virus scan in DOS.
>>Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I downloaded
>>"F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest virus
>>definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot from
>>floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
>>Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1 went
>>okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
>>copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
>>(2,237KB).
>>
>>F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too big
>>to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
>>disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
>>use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a computer
>>in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
>>
>>Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while in
>>the DOS mode? If so, how?
>>
>>
>>Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can prevent
>>being old."
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

[Shane]

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Hi Job,

Gets a little complicated to explain in detail. You don't have to, but might
as well, make the cd bootable. That way you don't have to boot to floppy
first in order to access the files on the cd. You can do this with your
preferred cd burning software using the boot cd option with floppy
emulation. You need a Windows Startup Disk. But whether you use a seperate
floppy to boot, or record it's image to the cd, you ideally want to alter
one or two items in the boot files, notably to increase the size of the
ramdrive and if running an AV is all you want to do, you might as well edit
autoexec.bat and config.sys to boot straight to the AV program, ramdrive
loaded. You can also add Bart Lagerweij's Jo.sys http://www.nu2.nu/jo/,
which means you can forget to take the cd out afterwards and it'll still
boot to Windows unless you hit a key. In fact, Bart's is a good site for
boot cd info: http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/ anyway.

I believe the best way to burn AV cds is to zip the AV and have it unzip to
the ramdrive. To do the unzipping I use PKZip
(http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pc/dos/msdos/arcutils/starter/pk250dos.exe). Do the
zipping from Windows to preserve long file names. With Nero (and poss.
Roxio?) you can burn multisessions to bootable cds, which means you can
update the cd several times before it's full.

Alternatively, check out AVDisk: http://www.avdisk.org/pages/download.html



Shane



"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
news:untoFlZOFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Well.....thought ...it was...you. I probably had a "senior
> moment". I'm having them more often nowadays. I was just
> trying to give you a chance to excel <G>.
>
>
> Job says, "Heck, it's too late at night to think of tags."
>
>
> "heirloom" <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
> news:%23cUPeYZOFHA.2532@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > As you may have read in the other thread.......I do not
> use F-Prot, never
> > have. You must have seen posts from someone else on that
> topic. However, I
> > would think that if you put the F-Prot files on a bootable
> CD, it ought to
> > work. Heather is the expert, she will be along shortly to
> correct me, I'm
> > sure.
> > Heirloom, old and must build a new
> machine
> > (I don't even have a CD burner)
> >
> > "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> > news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Texican,
> > >
> > > I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot
> to
> > > run virus scan in DOS.
> > > Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I
> downloaded
> > > "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest
> virus
> > > definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot
> from
> > > floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
> > > Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1
> went
> > > okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
> > > copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> > > (2,237KB).
> > >
> > > F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too
> big
> > > to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
> > > disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
> > > use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a
> computer
> > > in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
> > >
> > > Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while
> in
> > > the DOS mode? If so, how?
> > >
> > >
> > > Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can
> prevent
> > > being old."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Shane]

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Hi Figgs. I see Art appears to have stopped doing his updaters. I was
considering e-mailing him about it, but as I don't actually need
them...........in fact I *still* use his Kaspersky updater that he
discontinued 2 years or so ago, and it *still* updates the
never-registered-in-the-first-place Kavdos32!

I was also wondering if Art still came here, but it doesn't look like it.
Let me know what he says! Been awhile since I went to acv - it seemed to be
becoming populated by the dogmatically-blinded while the interesting people
were leaving in droves. And now I find the Berlin Uni service doesn't work
anymore! Well, not for free.........


Shane


"Heather" <figgs@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:uzCJn5ZOFHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Sure.....ask me a question I can't answer, grin!! It used to fit on one
> floppy, believe it or not. I have never made use of it that way. I just
> have it on my desktop and run that every month or so. It will catch
viruses
> that often the others don't......got Kakworm years ago, long before Norton
> knew it existed and then I got instructions from one of the antivirus guys
> on how to remove it.
>
> Art Kopp (are you reading this, Art???) used to have an updater for it and
a
> "how to" IIRC, but doesn't anymore. I did see someone recently on the
> antivirus group who has the instructions on their website.....I will see
> what I can find.
>
> But why do you need to put it on a CD?? Or are you planning to set up a
> virus cleaning business, grin.
> My neighbours think I should start a company and wear t-shirts on my Dolly
> Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E V-I-R-U-S!!
>
> I will see what I the guys say on a.c.v.
>
> Auntie Virus.....
> Why use Shampoo........use REAL poo. (heh heh......another favourite)
>
> "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Texican,
> >
> > I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot to
> > run virus scan in DOS.
> > Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I downloaded
> > "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest virus
> > definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot from
> > floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
> > Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1 went
> > okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
> > copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> > (2,237KB).
> >
> > F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too big
> > to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
> > disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
> > use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a computer
> > in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
> >
> > Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while in
> > the DOS mode? If so, how?
> >
> >
> > Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can prevent
> > being old."
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Heather]

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Hi Puss......

Was just heading for bed....but I just saw the other day that Art's website
has something different on it. Don't remember what, but certainly not the
F-Prot stuff. Or the monkey, grin.

Yep....the people on there are sure different. On the other hand, do we
need Sooooooooge and Laura duking it out? Hmmm, maybe we do. A lot of the
old hands (like myself) just lurk. Haven't seen Nick on there for ages for
instance. It used to be a really interesting ng.

I miss my Berlin Uni news server.....I hate the ISP one. But it looks
impossible to pay for it from Canada. I won't use Paypal type services that
have porn ads on the sides, grin.

Night......Figgs

"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23DwWDYaOFHA.3144@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi Figgs. I see Art appears to have stopped doing his updaters. I was
> considering e-mailing him about it, but as I don't actually need
> them...........in fact I *still* use his Kaspersky updater that he
> discontinued 2 years or so ago, and it *still* updates the
> never-registered-in-the-first-place Kavdos32!
>
> I was also wondering if Art still came here, but it doesn't look like it.
> Let me know what he says! Been awhile since I went to acv - it seemed to
be
> becoming populated by the dogmatically-blinded while the interesting
people
> were leaving in droves. And now I find the Berlin Uni service doesn't work
> anymore! Well, not for free.........
>
>
> Shane
>
>
> "Heather" <figgs@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uzCJn5ZOFHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Sure.....ask me a question I can't answer, grin!! It used to fit on one
> > floppy, believe it or not. I have never made use of it that way. I
just
> > have it on my desktop and run that every month or so. It will catch
> viruses
> > that often the others don't......got Kakworm years ago, long before
Norton
> > knew it existed and then I got instructions from one of the antivirus
guys
> > on how to remove it.
> >
> > Art Kopp (are you reading this, Art???) used to have an updater for it
and
> a
> > "how to" IIRC, but doesn't anymore. I did see someone recently on the
> > antivirus group who has the instructions on their website.....I will see
> > what I can find.
> >
> > But why do you need to put it on a CD?? Or are you planning to set up a
> > virus cleaning business, grin.
> > My neighbours think I should start a company and wear t-shirts on my
Dolly
> > Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E V-I-R-U-S!!
> >
> > I will see what I the guys say on a.c.v.
> >
> > Auntie Virus.....
> > Why use Shampoo........use REAL poo. (heh heh......another favourite)
> >
> > "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> > news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Texican,
> > >
> > > I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot to
> > > run virus scan in DOS.
> > > Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I downloaded
> > > "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest virus
> > > definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot from
> > > floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
> > > Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1 went
> > > okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
> > > copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> > > (2,237KB).
> > >
> > > F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too big
> > > to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
> > > disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
> > > use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a computer
> > > in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
> > >
> > > Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while in
> > > the DOS mode? If so, how?
> > >
> > >
> > > Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can prevent
> > > being old."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Guest]

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I lost that one on the 1st April, still trying to get a.c.v and a.c.a.v.
from somewhere else at the moment, for free of course <g>
Joan

Shane wrote:

And now I find the Berlin Uni service doesn't work
> anymore! Well, not for free.........
>
>
> Shane
>

 

[job]

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Hi Heather,

You ask "But why do you need to put it on a CD??" I will
reach into my word bucket and try to pick some that permits
me to give a coherent explanation.

I have read that there are some viruses that can prevent
your OS from running. If this occurs then you would be
unable to run your normal anti-virus program to clean out
the bad guys. I thought the beauty of "F-Prot for DOS" was
to have a backup capability that would allow you to boot
into DOS and do a viral scan/cleanup. (Overly cautious maybe
but sometimes I wear both a belt and suspenders.) Since I
would still like to have this backup capability but am
unable to copy the appropiate files to floppies due to file
size ergo the need to put the files onto a CD.

About what your neighbors think about starting you a
company.....,


Job says, "I think one should try to stay abreast of new
developments <g>."


"Heather" <figgs@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:uzCJn5ZOFHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Sure.....ask me a question I can't answer, grin!! It used
to fit on one
> floppy, believe it or not. I have never made use of it
that way. I just
> have it on my desktop and run that every month or so. It
will catch viruses
> that often the others don't......got Kakworm years ago,
long before Norton
> knew it existed and then I got instructions from one of
the antivirus guys
> on how to remove it.
>
> Art Kopp (are you reading this, Art???) used to have an
updater for it and a
> "how to" IIRC, but doesn't anymore. I did see someone
recently on the
> antivirus group who has the instructions on their
website.....I will see
> what I can find.
>
> But why do you need to put it on a CD?? Or are you
planning to set up a
> virus cleaning business, grin.
> My neighbours think I should start a company and wear
t-shirts on my Dolly
> Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E
V-I-R-U-S!!
>
> I will see what I the guys say on a.c.v.
>
> Auntie Virus.....
> Why use Shampoo........use REAL poo. (heh
heh......another favourite)
>
> "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Texican,
> >
> > I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot
to
> > run virus scan in DOS.
> > Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I
downloaded
> > "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest
virus
> > definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot
from
> > floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
> > Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1
went
> > okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
> > copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> > (2,237KB).
> >
> > F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too
big
> > to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
> > disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
> > use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a
computer
> > in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
> >
> > Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while
in
> > the DOS mode? If so, how?
> >
> >
> > Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can
prevent
> > being old."
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Guest]

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Job,
Looks like you got some good skinny on the creation of an F-Prot CD.
Glad to see a bootable CD would do the trick.
Heirloom, old and the water leak is fixed, yay.

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
news:u4JPrSfOFHA.3072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi Heather,
>
> You ask "But why do you need to put it on a CD??" I will
> reach into my word bucket and try to pick some that permits
> me to give a coherent explanation.
>
> I have read that there are some viruses that can prevent
> your OS from running. If this occurs then you would be
> unable to run your normal anti-virus program to clean out
> the bad guys. I thought the beauty of "F-Prot for DOS" was
> to have a backup capability that would allow you to boot
> into DOS and do a viral scan/cleanup. (Overly cautious maybe
> but sometimes I wear both a belt and suspenders.) Since I
> would still like to have this backup capability but am
> unable to copy the appropiate files to floppies due to file
> size ergo the need to put the files onto a CD.
>
> About what your neighbors think about starting you a
> company.....,
>
>
> Job says, "I think one should try to stay abreast of new
> developments <g>."
>
>
> "Heather" <figgs@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uzCJn5ZOFHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Sure.....ask me a question I can't answer, grin!! It used
> to fit on one
> > floppy, believe it or not. I have never made use of it
> that way. I just
> > have it on my desktop and run that every month or so. It
> will catch viruses
> > that often the others don't......got Kakworm years ago,
> long before Norton
> > knew it existed and then I got instructions from one of
> the antivirus guys
> > on how to remove it.
> >
> > Art Kopp (are you reading this, Art???) used to have an
> updater for it and a
> > "how to" IIRC, but doesn't anymore. I did see someone
> recently on the
> > antivirus group who has the instructions on their
> website.....I will see
> > what I can find.
> >
> > But why do you need to put it on a CD?? Or are you
> planning to set up a
> > virus cleaning business, grin.
> > My neighbours think I should start a company and wear
> t-shirts on my Dolly
> > Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E
> V-I-R-U-S!!
> >
> > I will see what I the guys say on a.c.v.
> >
> > Auntie Virus.....
> > Why use Shampoo........use REAL poo. (heh
> heh......another favourite)
> >
> > "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> > news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Texican,
> > >
> > > I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot
> to
> > > run virus scan in DOS.
> > > Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I
> downloaded
> > > "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest
> virus
> > > definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot
> from
> > > floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
> > > Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1
> went
> > > okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
> > > copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> > > (2,237KB).
> > >
> > > F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too
> big
> > > to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
> > > disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
> > > use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a
> computer
> > > in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
> > >
> > > Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while
> in
> > > the DOS mode? If so, how?
> > >
> > >
> > > Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can
> prevent
> > > being old."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

 

[Heather]

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Hi Job......

I use EZ Trust and I regularly back it up to a floppy.....yes, just one. It
contains the necessary files to rescue me. There are ways to get a boot
disc.....including going to www.bootdisk.com and downloading the appropriate
one to the desktop and then transferring it over to a floppy.

Others include copying over the files in C:\WINDOWS\Command\EBD, if memory
serves me right.....Noel or Mike could give you the info. I have several of
them, all done in different ways.

Howled at your tagline......Dolly P.

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
news:u4JPrSfOFHA.3072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Hi Heather,
>
> You ask "But why do you need to put it on a CD??" I will
> reach into my word bucket and try to pick some that permits
> me to give a coherent explanation.
>
> I have read that there are some viruses that can prevent
> your OS from running. If this occurs then you would be
> unable to run your normal anti-virus program to clean out
> the bad guys. I thought the beauty of "F-Prot for DOS" was
> to have a backup capability that would allow you to boot
> into DOS and do a viral scan/cleanup. (Overly cautious maybe
> but sometimes I wear both a belt and suspenders.) Since I
> would still like to have this backup capability but am
> unable to copy the appropiate files to floppies due to file
> size ergo the need to put the files onto a CD.
>
> About what your neighbors think about starting you a
> company.....,
>
>
> Job says, "I think one should try to stay abreast of new
> developments <g>."
>
>
> "Heather" <figgs@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uzCJn5ZOFHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Sure.....ask me a question I can't answer, grin!! It used
> to fit on one
> > floppy, believe it or not. I have never made use of it
> that way. I just
> > have it on my desktop and run that every month or so. It
> will catch viruses
> > that often the others don't......got Kakworm years ago,
> long before Norton
> > knew it existed and then I got instructions from one of
> the antivirus guys
> > on how to remove it.
> >
> > Art Kopp (are you reading this, Art???) used to have an
> updater for it and a
> > "how to" IIRC, but doesn't anymore. I did see someone
> recently on the
> > antivirus group who has the instructions on their
> website.....I will see
> > what I can find.
> >
> > But why do you need to put it on a CD?? Or are you
> planning to set up a
> > virus cleaning business, grin.
> > My neighbours think I should start a company and wear
> t-shirts on my Dolly
> > Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E
> V-I-R-U-S!!
> >
> > I will see what I the guys say on a.c.v.
> >
> > Auntie Virus.....
> > Why use Shampoo........use REAL poo. (heh
> heh......another favourite)
> >
> > "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> > news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Texican,
> > >
> > > I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot
> to
> > > run virus scan in DOS.
> > > Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I
> downloaded
> > > "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest
> virus
> > > definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot
> from
> > > floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
> > > Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1
> went
> > > okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
> > > copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> > > (2,237KB).
> > >
> > > F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too
> big
> > > to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
> > > disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
> > > use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a
> computer
> > > in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
> > >
> > > Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while
> in
> > > the DOS mode? If so, how?
> > >
> > >
> > > Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can
> prevent
> > > being old."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

 

[Guest]

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In article <uzCJn5ZOFHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>, Heather says...

> My neighbours think I should start a company and wear t-shirts on my Dolly
> Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E V-I-R-U-S!!

Mae West predates Dolly Parton by a few years; and gave her name to a
flotation vest used by U.S. aviators in World War II!

Well, your trying to keep your neighbor's (sorry; I am a Yank, after all!)
computers afloat, are you not?

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

 

[job]

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Afternoon Heather,

I have not done a good job of 'splaining myself. I already
have a boot disk that I made from within WindowsME so with
it I can get into DOS. My dilemma is, assuming a virus can
prevent the OS from cycling and if I can boot to ONLY the
DOS mode, how can I run a virus scan with F-Prot.

Probably the best thing is for me to to do is conduct a
scientific spearmint. I'm going to copy the F-Prot files
F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF, SIGN.DEF and SIGN2.DEF
to a CD. Then use my boot disk to boot into DOS mode and
try to read from the CD to initialize F-Prot.

My simple mind thinks this may work but I've been wrong
before. Will let you know results.


Job says, "I think I was wrong one time before in the summer
of 1955."



"Heather" <figgs@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:eVkA7yfOFHA.580@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hi Job......
>
> I use EZ Trust and I regularly back it up to a
floppy.....yes, just one. It
> contains the necessary files to rescue me. There are ways
to get a boot
> disc.....including going to www.bootdisk.com and
downloading the appropriate
> one to the desktop and then transferring it over to a
floppy.
>
> Others include copying over the files in
C:\WINDOWS\Command\EBD, if memory
> serves me right.....Noel or Mike could give you the info.
I have several of
> them, all done in different ways.
>
> Howled at your tagline......Dolly P.
>
> "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> news:u4JPrSfOFHA.3072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Heather,
> >
> > You ask "But why do you need to put it on a CD??" I
will
> > reach into my word bucket and try to pick some that
permits
> > me to give a coherent explanation.
> >
> > I have read that there are some viruses that can prevent
> > your OS from running. If this occurs then you would be
> > unable to run your normal anti-virus program to clean
out
> > the bad guys. I thought the beauty of "F-Prot for DOS"
was
> > to have a backup capability that would allow you to boot
> > into DOS and do a viral scan/cleanup. (Overly cautious
maybe
> > but sometimes I wear both a belt and suspenders.) Since
I
> > would still like to have this backup capability but am
> > unable to copy the appropiate files to floppies due to
file
> > size ergo the need to put the files onto a CD.
> >
> > About what your neighbors think about starting you a
> > company.....,
> >
> >
> > Job says, "I think one should try to stay abreast of new
> > developments <g>."
> >
> >
> > "Heather" <figgs@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:uzCJn5ZOFHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Sure.....ask me a question I can't answer, grin!! It
used
> > to fit on one
> > > floppy, believe it or not. I have never made use of
it
> > that way. I just
> > > have it on my desktop and run that every month or so.
It
> > will catch viruses
> > > that often the others don't......got Kakworm years
ago,
> > long before Norton
> > > knew it existed and then I got instructions from one
of
> > the antivirus guys
> > > on how to remove it.
> > >
> > > Art Kopp (are you reading this, Art???) used to have
an
> > updater for it and a
> > > "how to" IIRC, but doesn't anymore. I did see someone
> > recently on the
> > > antivirus group who has the instructions on their
> > website.....I will see
> > > what I can find.
> > >
> > > But why do you need to put it on a CD?? Or are you
> > planning to set up a
> > > virus cleaning business, grin.
> > > My neighbours think I should start a company and wear
> > t-shirts on my Dolly
> > > Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E
> > V-I-R-U-S!!
> > >
> > > I will see what I the guys say on a.c.v.
> > >
> > > Auntie Virus.....
> > > Why use Shampoo........use REAL poo. (heh
> > heh......another favourite)
> > >
> > > "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> > > news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Texican,
> > > >
> > > > I've seen a couple of your past posts about using
F-Prot
> > to
> > > > run virus scan in DOS.
> > > > Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I
> > downloaded
> > > > "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest
> > virus
> > > > definition. Believing that I would need to run
F-Prot
> > from
> > > > floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto
floppies.
> > > > Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk
#1
> > went
> > > > okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could
not
> > > > copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> > > > (2,237KB).
> > > >
> > > > F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now
too
> > big
> > > > to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three
floppy
> > > > disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd
and
> > > > use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a
> > computer
> > > > in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
> > > >
> > > > Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD
while
> > in
> > > > the DOS mode? If so, how?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can
> > prevent
> > > > being old."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[job]

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Hey Shane,

I'm not ignoring you, just trying to absorb your
suggestions. To be honest your technical expertise and
jargon is way beyond my comprehension. My computer
knowledge is about like my reading skill was when I started
grammar school many years ago. Like..See Spot..See Spot
Run.. See Jane..etc.

As I replied to Heather further down in this thread, I'm
going to run a test and see if
I can sort this out. I really appreciate the time you have
taken to try and help this dummy.


Job brags, "I can make a sow's ear out of a silk purse."


"Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OxeGXIaOFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi Job,
>
> Gets a little complicated to explain in detail. You don't
have to, but might
> as well, make the cd bootable. That way you don't have to
boot to floppy
> first in order to access the files on the cd. You can do
this with your
> preferred cd burning software using the boot cd option
with floppy
> emulation. You need a Windows Startup Disk. But whether
you use a seperate
> floppy to boot, or record it's image to the cd, you
ideally want to alter
> one or two items in the boot files, notably to increase
the size of the
> ramdrive and if running an AV is all you want to do, you
might as well edit
> autoexec.bat and config.sys to boot straight to the AV
program, ramdrive
> loaded. You can also add Bart Lagerweij's Jo.sys
http://www.nu2.nu/jo/,
> which means you can forget to take the cd out afterwards
and it'll still
> boot to Windows unless you hit a key. In fact, Bart's is a
good site for
> boot cd info: http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/ anyway.
>
> I believe the best way to burn AV cds is to zip the AV and
have it unzip to
> the ramdrive. To do the unzipping I use PKZip
>
(http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pc/dos/msdos/arcutils/starter/pk250d
os.exe). Do the
> zipping from Windows to preserve long file names. With
Nero (and poss.
> Roxio?) you can burn multisessions to bootable cds, which
means you can
> update the cd several times before it's full.
>
> Alternatively, check out AVDisk:
http://www.avdisk.org/pages/download.html
>
>
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> news:untoFlZOFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Well.....thought ...it was...you. I probably had a
"senior
> > moment". I'm having them more often nowadays. I was
just
> > trying to give you a chance to excel <G>.
> >
> >
> > Job says, "Heck, it's too late at night to think of
tags."
> >
> >
> > "heirloom" <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23cUPeYZOFHA.2532@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > As you may have read in the other thread.......I do
not
> > use F-Prot, never
> > > have. You must have seen posts from someone else on
that
> > topic. However, I
> > > would think that if you put the F-Prot files on a
bootable
> > CD, it ought to
> > > work. Heather is the expert, she will be along
shortly to
> > correct me, I'm
> > > sure.
> > > Heirloom, old and must build a new
> > machine
> > > (I don't even have a CD
burner)
> > >
> > > "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> > > news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Texican,
> > > >
> > > > I've seen a couple of your past posts about using
F-Prot
> > to
> > > > run virus scan in DOS.
> > > > Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I
> > downloaded
> > > > "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest
> > virus
> > > > definition. Believing that I would need to run
F-Prot
> > from
> > > > floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto
floppies.
> > > > Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk
#1
> > went
> > > > okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could
not
> > > > copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> > > > (2,237KB).
> > > >
> > > > F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now
too
> > big
> > > > to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three
floppy
> > > > disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd
and
> > > > use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a
> > computer
> > > > in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
> > > >
> > > > Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD
while
> > in
> > > > the DOS mode? If so, how?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can
> > prevent
> > > > being old."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

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<lol> Can't wait to see her reply to that one, I think she's got enough
problems trying to keep her own machine afloat never mind the neighbours <g>
Joan

N. Miller wrote:

> Mae West predates Dolly Parton by a few years; and gave her name to a
> flotation vest used by U.S. aviators in World War II!
>
> Well, your trying to keep your neighbor's (sorry; I am a Yank, after all!)
> computers afloat, are you not?
>

 

[Guest]

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Let's see.....that would make her the "Wicked Witch of the Mae West." <g>
Heirloom, old and whatever floats your boat

"Joan Archer" <joanarcher@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Oiffx%23hOFHA.164@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> <lol> Can't wait to see her reply to that one, I think she's got enough
> problems trying to keep her own machine afloat never mind the neighbours
<g>
> Joan
>
> N. Miller wrote:
>
> > Mae West predates Dolly Parton by a few years; and gave her name to a
> > flotation vest used by U.S. aviators in World War II!
> >
> > Well, your trying to keep your neighbor's (sorry; I am a Yank, after
all!)
> > computers afloat, are you not?
> >

 

[Guest]

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ahh....geezz...I was really enjoying this thread. Lucky my grandson is not
here, he might think his Papy is good for the looney bin.
HTH Paul

"heirloom" wrote:

> Let's see.....that would make her the "Wicked Witch of the Mae West." <g>
> Heirloom, old and whatever floats your boat
>
> "Joan Archer" <joanarcher@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Oiffx%23hOFHA.164@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > <lol> Can't wait to see her reply to that one, I think she's got enough
> > problems trying to keep her own machine afloat never mind the neighbours
> <g>
> > Joan
> >
> > N. Miller wrote:
> >
> > > Mae West predates Dolly Parton by a few years; and gave her name to a
> > > flotation vest used by U.S. aviators in World War II!
> > >
> > > Well, your trying to keep your neighbor's (sorry; I am a Yank, after
> all!)
> > > computers afloat, are you not?
> > >
>
>
>

 

[Heather]

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LOL!!!! I was away all day and am thoroughly enjoying the comments from the
resident loonies!! (G)

I am not old enough to remember Mae West (Come up and see me sometime,
etc).....but I now have to work on keeping this baby afloat......to heck
with the neighbour's. He keeps turning ZA off. I smacked him once before
for that. Swung around too fast and "Mae Wested" him into next
week.....(VBG)

What in heck is that language in your tag line?? Welsh or Gaelic? Bet I
just put my foot in it....grin.

Dolly

"N. Miller" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cbc929fde4b86ac98a76e@msnews.microsoft.com...
> In article <uzCJn5ZOFHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>, Heather says...
>
> > My neighbours think I should start a company and wear t-shirts on my
Dolly
> > Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E V-I-R-U-S!!
>
> Mae West predates Dolly Parton by a few years; and gave her name to a
> flotation vest used by U.S. aviators in World War II!
>
> Well, your trying to keep your neighbor's (sorry; I am a Yank, after all!)
> computers afloat, are you not?
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

 

[Heather]

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Sorry about that.....but your method sounds good to me. Perhaps Shane
remembers exactly which files you copy over......think you have them all.

Heather (Summer of '55....ah yes, it was a very good year, grin)

"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
news:eJlOPMhOFHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Afternoon Heather,
>
> I have not done a good job of 'splaining myself. I already
> have a boot disk that I made from within WindowsME so with
> it I can get into DOS. My dilemma is, assuming a virus can
> prevent the OS from cycling and if I can boot to ONLY the
> DOS mode, how can I run a virus scan with F-Prot.
>
> Probably the best thing is for me to to do is conduct a
> scientific spearmint. I'm going to copy the F-Prot files
> F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF, SIGN.DEF and SIGN2.DEF
> to a CD. Then use my boot disk to boot into DOS mode and
> try to read from the CD to initialize F-Prot.
>
> My simple mind thinks this may work but I've been wrong
> before. Will let you know results.
>
>
> Job says, "I think I was wrong one time before in the summer
> of 1955."
>
>
>
> "Heather" <figgs@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eVkA7yfOFHA.580@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Job......
> >
> > I use EZ Trust and I regularly back it up to a
> floppy.....yes, just one. It
> > contains the necessary files to rescue me. There are ways
> to get a boot
> > disc.....including going to www.bootdisk.com and
> downloading the appropriate
> > one to the desktop and then transferring it over to a
> floppy.
> >
> > Others include copying over the files in
> C:\WINDOWS\Command\EBD, if memory
> > serves me right.....Noel or Mike could give you the info.
> I have several of
> > them, all done in different ways.
> >
> > Howled at your tagline......Dolly P.
> >
> > "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> > news:u4JPrSfOFHA.3072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi Heather,
> > >
> > > You ask "But why do you need to put it on a CD??" I
> will
> > > reach into my word bucket and try to pick some that
> permits
> > > me to give a coherent explanation.
> > >
> > > I have read that there are some viruses that can prevent
> > > your OS from running. If this occurs then you would be
> > > unable to run your normal anti-virus program to clean
> out
> > > the bad guys. I thought the beauty of "F-Prot for DOS"
> was
> > > to have a backup capability that would allow you to boot
> > > into DOS and do a viral scan/cleanup. (Overly cautious
> maybe
> > > but sometimes I wear both a belt and suspenders.) Since
> I
> > > would still like to have this backup capability but am
> > > unable to copy the appropiate files to floppies due to
> file
> > > size ergo the need to put the files onto a CD.
> > >
> > > About what your neighbors think about starting you a
> > > company.....,
> > >
> > >
> > > Job says, "I think one should try to stay abreast of new
> > > developments <g>."
> > >
> > >
> > > "Heather" <figgs@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:uzCJn5ZOFHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Sure.....ask me a question I can't answer, grin!! It
> used
> > > to fit on one
> > > > floppy, believe it or not. I have never made use of
> it
> > > that way. I just
> > > > have it on my desktop and run that every month or so.
> It
> > > will catch viruses
> > > > that often the others don't......got Kakworm years
> ago,
> > > long before Norton
> > > > knew it existed and then I got instructions from one
> of
> > > the antivirus guys
> > > > on how to remove it.
> > > >
> > > > Art Kopp (are you reading this, Art???) used to have
> an
> > > updater for it and a
> > > > "how to" IIRC, but doesn't anymore. I did see someone
> > > recently on the
> > > > antivirus group who has the instructions on their
> > > website.....I will see
> > > > what I can find.
> > > >
> > > > But why do you need to put it on a CD?? Or are you
> > > planning to set up a
> > > > virus cleaning business, grin.
> > > > My neighbours think I should start a company and wear
> > > t-shirts on my Dolly
> > > > Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E
> > > V-I-R-U-S!!
> > > >
> > > > I will see what I the guys say on a.c.v.
> > > >
> > > > Auntie Virus.....
> > > > Why use Shampoo........use REAL poo. (heh
> > > heh......another favourite)
> > > >
> > > > "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> > > > news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Texican,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've seen a couple of your past posts about using
> F-Prot
> > > to
> > > > > run virus scan in DOS.
> > > > > Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I
> > > downloaded
> > > > > "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest
> > > virus
> > > > > definition. Believing that I would need to run
> F-Prot
> > > from
> > > > > floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto
> floppies.
> > > > > Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk
> #1
> > > went
> > > > > okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could
> not
> > > > > copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> > > > > (2,237KB).
> > > > >
> > > > > F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now
> too
> > > big
> > > > > to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three
> floppy
> > > > > disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd
> and
> > > > > use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a
> > > computer
> > > > > in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD
> while
> > > in
> > > > > the DOS mode? If so, how?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can
> > > prevent
> > > > > being old."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Guest]

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You don't remember Mae West because she was way after your time. <g> And
your poor neighbor........you must have struck him twice.....like losing a
pillow fight.
Heirloom, old and it's got to be Welch's or Garlic


"Heather" <figgs@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:eHupaGlOFHA.3296@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> LOL!!!! I was away all day and am thoroughly enjoying the comments from
the
> resident loonies!! (G)
>
> I am not old enough to remember Mae West (Come up and see me sometime,
> etc).....but I now have to work on keeping this baby afloat......to heck
> with the neighbour's. He keeps turning ZA off. I smacked him once
before
> for that. Swung around too fast and "Mae Wested" him into next
> week.....(VBG)
>
> What in heck is that language in your tag line?? Welsh or Gaelic? Bet I
> just put my foot in it....grin.
>
> Dolly
>
> "N. Miller" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1cbc929fde4b86ac98a76e@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > In article <uzCJn5ZOFHA.3704@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>, Heather says...
> >
> > > My neighbours think I should start a company and wear t-shirts on my
> Dolly
> > > Parton part of the anatomy.....saying A-U-N-T-I-E V-I-R-U-S!!
> >
> > Mae West predates Dolly Parton by a few years; and gave her name to a
> > flotation vest used by U.S. aviators in World War II!
> >
> > Well, your trying to keep your neighbor's (sorry; I am a Yank, after
all!)
> > computers afloat, are you not?
> >
> > --
> > Norman
> > ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
> > ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
> > ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint
>
>

 

[job]

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Okay Team, this is the latest.

First I determined that the only DOS I know how to use is
Dos Equis. I copied the F-Prot files to a CD using Easy CD
Creator, rebooted using my Startup Disk (EBD), selected
Start cmptr without CD support (later tried with CD
support). However after I got the prompt "A:\>" I couldn't
figure out how to get this machine to read the CD.

Proceeding to Plan B, I again reviewed Shane's suggestions
and the "bootable CD" links he provided. I quickly verified
that my background in underwater basket weaving was no help
in understanding those instructions.

Pressing ahead to Plan C, I followed Shane's suggestion to
consider AVDisk. Downloaded it and it seems to be the
ticket (I think). It generates boot disks (3 in my case)
and utilizes F-Prot as a virus scanner. Neat program!

Shane, if you use AVDisk maybe you can answer a question.
When I started the scan it finished in a flash. Results of
virus scanning was:
Files: 12
MBRs: 1
Boot sectors: 1
Objects scanned: 12
Time: 0:00
No viruses or suspicious files/boot sectors were found
Are these results like you would expect?

I thank all you who patiently helped me stumble through the
darkness.


Job ponders, "Why aren't those wooden things called "teeth
picks". It's for sure a person having only one tooth
wouldn't need a pick."



"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Texican,
>
> I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot
to
> run virus scan in DOS.
> Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I downloaded
> "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest virus
> definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot
from
> floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
> Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1 went
> okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
> copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
> (2,237KB).
>
> F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too
big
> to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
> disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
> use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a
computer
> in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
>
> Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while in
> the DOS mode? If so, how?
>
>
> Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can
prevent
> being old."
>
>
>

 

[Shane]

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> I'm not ignoring you, just trying to absorb your
> suggestions. To be honest your technical expertise and
> jargon is way beyond my comprehension. My computer
> knowledge is about like my reading skill was when I started
> grammar school many years ago. Like..See Spot..See Spot
> Run.. See Jane..etc.

No problem. Try the AVDisk link. That makes floppy sets of certain DOS AV
progs, inc. F-Prot. Alternatively one way or another we could get Art's
F-Update/FP-Up program to you which has that facility. They work, btw, by
splitting the large def files, spanning them across multiple floppies, and
rejoining them in the ramdrive.

otoh while the burning-to-cd process may seem complicated, you don't
absolutely have to make a bootable cd, in which case the cd burning part
consists simply of zipping F-Prot and burning it (but not finalising the
session).

Still you have to boot to DOS, so the simplest way is using your Windows
Startup Disk as made in Control Panel/Add-Remove Programs. You absolutely
have to select *Start with CD-ROM support* or you won't be able to access
the cd (but it also loads the ramdrive, which is required).

The ramdrive is a virtual drive, existing only in RAM - ie, F-Prot will be
run entirely from the computer's memory - but the ramdrive size as loaded by
default is too small so a small change to the Startup Disk's config.sys file
is required. This is easy - we can tell you what to do, or you can e-mail
the file to me and I'll edit it and send it back to you.

The problem with running F-Prot from the hard disk is that the F-Prot files
themselves may be infected, or a virus may have otherwise crippled the
program - easier to do to an AV that isn't running when infection occurs.
Running a DOS AV from the hd is a half-way house, in that respect, in that
it only works if the integrity of the program remains intact. Similarly,
running from a removable medium requires preparation on a known clean
machine and regular updating as new defs etc are released. Not conforming to
all of this almost defeats the object of doing any of it.

Finally, F-Prot for DOS is not the last word in DOS AV. It isn't failsafe,
even if you do create an up-to-date, clean, off-hd scanner. My solution is a
cd containing 5 DOS AV's, though the idea isn't to always run all 5 but
rather to have the option of more than one and any-or-all.

But, as with a non-hd solution in general, it's great for use on somebody
else's computer!



Shane



>
> As I replied to Heather further down in this thread, I'm
> going to run a test and see if
> I can sort this out. I really appreciate the time you have
> taken to try and help this dummy.
>
>
> Job brags, "I can make a sow's ear out of a silk purse."
>
>
> "Shane" <arthursixpence@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OxeGXIaOFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Job,
>>
>> Gets a little complicated to explain in detail. You don't
> have to, but might
>> as well, make the cd bootable. That way you don't have to
> boot to floppy
>> first in order to access the files on the cd. You can do
> this with your
>> preferred cd burning software using the boot cd option
> with floppy
>> emulation. You need a Windows Startup Disk. But whether
> you use a seperate
>> floppy to boot, or record it's image to the cd, you
> ideally want to alter
>> one or two items in the boot files, notably to increase
> the size of the
>> ramdrive and if running an AV is all you want to do, you
> might as well edit
>> autoexec.bat and config.sys to boot straight to the AV
> program, ramdrive
>> loaded. You can also add Bart Lagerweij's Jo.sys
> http://www.nu2.nu/jo/,
>> which means you can forget to take the cd out afterwards
> and it'll still
>> boot to Windows unless you hit a key. In fact, Bart's is a
> good site for
>> boot cd info: http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/ anyway.
>>
>> I believe the best way to burn AV cds is to zip the AV and
> have it unzip to
>> the ramdrive. To do the unzipping I use PKZip
>>
> (http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pc/dos/msdos/arcutils/starter/pk250d
> os.exe). Do the
>> zipping from Windows to preserve long file names. With
> Nero (and poss.
>> Roxio?) you can burn multisessions to bootable cds, which
> means you can
>> update the cd several times before it's full.
>>
>> Alternatively, check out AVDisk:
> http://www.avdisk.org/pages/download.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>>
>> "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
>> news:untoFlZOFHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > Well.....thought ...it was...you. I probably had a
> "senior
>> > moment". I'm having them more often nowadays. I was
> just
>> > trying to give you a chance to excel <G>.
>> >
>> >
>> > Job says, "Heck, it's too late at night to think of
> tags."
>> >
>> >
>> > "heirloom" <heirloom@nospamatall.com> wrote in message
>> > news:%23cUPeYZOFHA.2532@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > As you may have read in the other thread.......I do
> not
>> > use F-Prot, never
>> > > have. You must have seen posts from someone else on
> that
>> > topic. However, I
>> > > would think that if you put the F-Prot files on a
> bootable
>> > CD, it ought to
>> > > work. Heather is the expert, she will be along
> shortly to
>> > correct me, I'm
>> > > sure.
>> > > Heirloom, old and must build a new
>> > machine
>> > > (I don't even have a CD
> burner)
>> > >
>> > > "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
>> > > news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > > > Texican,
>> > > >
>> > > > I've seen a couple of your past posts about using
> F-Prot
>> > to
>> > > > run virus scan in DOS.
>> > > > Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I
>> > downloaded
>> > > > "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest
>> > virus
>> > > > definition. Believing that I would need to run
> F-Prot
>> > from
>> > > > floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto
> floppies.
>> > > > Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk
> #1
>> > went
>> > > > okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could
> not
>> > > > copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
>> > > > (2,237KB).
>> > > >
>> > > > F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now
> too
>> > big
>> > > > to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three
> floppy
>> > > > disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd
> and
>> > > > use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a
>> > computer
>> > > > in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
>> > > >
>> > > > Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD
> while
>> > in
>> > > > the DOS mode? If so, how?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can
>> > prevent
>> > > > being old."
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Shane]

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> Was just heading for bed....but I just saw the other day that Art's
> website
> has something different on it. Don't remember what, but certainly not the
> F-Prot stuff. Or the monkey, grin.

Yeah, the no monkey part gives one to wonder if he's ill!

>
> Yep....the people on there are sure different. On the other hand, do we
> need Sooooooooge and Laura duking it out? Hmmm, maybe we do. A lot of
> the
> old hands (like myself) just lurk. Haven't seen Nick on there for ages
> for
> instance. It used to be a really interesting ng.
>

lol, yeah, it went downhill round about the time I turned up! Does The
Rafters ever turn up anymore?

> I miss my Berlin Uni news server.....I hate the ISP one. But it looks
> impossible to pay for it from Canada. I won't use Paypal type services
> that
> have porn ads on the sides, grin.

Actually my ISP's is not so bad now (solely, I feel, due to BB). And that's
why I went to Berlin Uni in the first place, though I think I was with a
different ISP then anyway. This one just doesn't have the range the previous
one had - I'm not sure I can get acav, for eg. Meanwhile Berlin was much
quicker for the MS groups, but wouldn't go beyond a certain thread depth and
I've been subscribed to the MS servers as a back up for yonks now. Maybe I
should get onto my ISP to provide other ngs.


Shane

 

[Shane]

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Hi Job,

I guess the other post I just did is redundant! lol!

OK, I haven't used AVDisk in a while, but the results you're showing are for
a basic boot files scan, which isn't what you want. I'll check this out
later, but I'm presuming there are options. Indeed, you ought to get
F-Prot's own interface come up, which does provide an easy way to select
scan parameters. All you really want AVDisk - or any other - to do is boot
you to that interface.

Meanwhile, you can run F-Prot for DOS in Windows - it'll come up in a DOS
box. Assuming it's unfamiliarity with the F-Prot interface that's the
problem, I suggest starting it in Windows and familiarising yourself with
it - you don't actually need to run a scan, just go through the screens. Use
arrow keys to get about, Enter to bring up the options for any particular
property, Spacebar to change between them where there are just two options.

If I find that AVDisk doesn't bring up the F-Prot interface, I'll get back
to you, but can't check atm.


Shane




"Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
news:uMMXcEmOFHA.3296@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Okay Team, this is the latest.
>
> First I determined that the only DOS I know how to use is
> Dos Equis. I copied the F-Prot files to a CD using Easy CD
> Creator, rebooted using my Startup Disk (EBD), selected
> Start cmptr without CD support (later tried with CD
> support). However after I got the prompt "A:\>" I couldn't
> figure out how to get this machine to read the CD.
>
> Proceeding to Plan B, I again reviewed Shane's suggestions
> and the "bootable CD" links he provided. I quickly verified
> that my background in underwater basket weaving was no help
> in understanding those instructions.
>
> Pressing ahead to Plan C, I followed Shane's suggestion to
> consider AVDisk. Downloaded it and it seems to be the
> ticket (I think). It generates boot disks (3 in my case)
> and utilizes F-Prot as a virus scanner. Neat program!
>
> Shane, if you use AVDisk maybe you can answer a question.
> When I started the scan it finished in a flash. Results of
> virus scanning was:
> Files: 12
> MBRs: 1
> Boot sectors: 1
> Objects scanned: 12
> Time: 0:00
> No viruses or suspicious files/boot sectors were found
> Are these results like you would expect?
>
> I thank all you who patiently helped me stumble through the
> darkness.
>
>
> Job ponders, "Why aren't those wooden things called "teeth
> picks". It's for sure a person having only one tooth
> wouldn't need a pick."
>
>
>
> "Job" <iam@best.slow> wrote in message
> news:uZSczHZOFHA.508@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Texican,
>>
>> I've seen a couple of your past posts about using F-Prot
> to
>> run virus scan in DOS.
>> Because I want to grow up to be like you <g> I downloaded
>> "F-Prot Antivirus for DOS" and downloaded the latest virus
>> definition. Believing that I would need to run F-Prot
> from
>> floppies I tried to copy appropiate files onto floppies.
>> Copying F-PROT.EXE, ENGLISH.TX0, MACRO.DEF to Disk #1 went
>> okay. Copying SIGN.DEF to Disk #3 went okay. Could not
>> copy SIGN2.DEF to Disk #2 because it was too large
>> (2,237KB).
>>
>> F-Prot Tech Support said "The sign2.def file is now too
> big
>> to fit on one diskette, thus you cannot use three floppy
>> disks anymore. You can however burn the files to cd and
>> use them that way. Another way is to try to boot a
> computer
>> in Safe Mode and run F-Prot from there."
>>
>> Do you know if I can run the virus scan from a CD while in
>> the DOS mode? If so, how?
>>
>>
>> Job says, "You can't prevent getting old but you can
> prevent
>> being old."
>>
>>
>>
>
>