how load win 98 on old laptop?

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

Hi,
A friend gave me an old NEC Versa laptop. It has no usb, it was made around
1996, it has a one gig hard drive in it. Serial port, parallel port,
pciamci slot or whatever its called with a 28k modem in it, a video out, and
one bay that can hold either a 3 1/2" floppy drive, or a 2X cdrom, both of
which I have.

Here's the problem, it has win98 on it but it doesn't load, it halts saying
no himem.sys loaded or something like that. So I tried copying the file
from a floppy into the windows directory but it never seems to get in there
because I continually get the same message. Even after it says the file was
copied. Then I made a directory on the hard drive, and copied himem.sys to
it, and sure enough it was there. Then I copied it from there to the
windows directory, and it isn't there, and booting gives me the same error
message.

the drives aren't hot swappable, so the problem is I can't get to the cdrom.
The win98 setup disk works in the 3.5 but it doesn't load cdrom drivers
because it doesn't see a cdrom in the system because there isn't one. Even
if it did, the system would crash if I pulled swapped the drives hot.

The bios has no switches to change boot order. It only has 3.5 and then the
c drive.

So I sent a way for a 3.5 to 2.5 converter to put the drive in a regular
computer and load the os from there, but no luck, the jack on the NEC's hard
drive is smaller than the 2.5" on the converter, so about now I'm looking
for some ideas.

Thanks for any help with this,

Avery

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

In article <Rtednd-vFrR-tmHcRVn-vQ@comcast.com>,
~ Avery Anderson~ <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:
>Hi,
>A friend gave me an old NEC Versa laptop. It has no usb, it was made around
>1996, it has a one gig hard drive in it. Serial port, parallel port,
>pciamci slot or whatever its called with a 28k modem in it, a video out, and
>one bay that can hold either a 3 1/2" floppy drive, or a 2X cdrom, both of
>which I have.
>
>Here's the problem, it has win98 on it but it doesn't load, it halts saying
>no himem.sys loaded or something like that. So I tried copying the file
>from a floppy into the windows directory but it never seems to get in there
>because I continually get the same message. Even after it says the file was
>copied. Then I made a directory on the hard drive, and copied himem.sys to
>it, and sure enough it was there. Then I copied it from there to the
>windows directory, and it isn't there, and booting gives me the same error
>message.
>
>the drives aren't hot swappable, so the problem is I can't get to the cdrom.
>The win98 setup disk works in the 3.5 but it doesn't load cdrom drivers
>because it doesn't see a cdrom in the system because there isn't one. Even
>if it did, the system would crash if I pulled swapped the drives hot.
>
>The bios has no switches to change boot order. It only has 3.5 and then the
>c drive.
>
>So I sent a way for a 3.5 to 2.5 converter to put the drive in a regular
>computer and load the os from there, but no luck, the jack on the NEC's hard
>drive is smaller than the 2.5" on the converter, so about now I'm looking
>for some ideas.
>
>Thanks for any help with this,
>
>Avery
>
>

It's a Win/95 vintage machine.

Did W/98 come out on floppies ?

Just maybe if you looked on a w/98 CDROM you'd find that all the CAB files
were less than 1.44 MB and could be copied to floppies. and you could
use them for to install.

Look on http://bootdisks.com/ for the boot floppies.


What a PITA.

--

a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

On 29 Jan 2005 20:20:10 -0500, adykes@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:


>>>Look on http://bootdisks.com/ for the boot floppies.


Better yet, just download and burn the file to make a boot CD!!
That will have the CD-ROM drivers already on it. Just make sure that
your laptop can boot from the CD. You might have to go into your BIOS
and set it up for that.

--
The Seabat

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

Al,
Thanks for the tip. If the win98 cabs don't fit on a floppy, I'm sure the
win95 ones will.

Also, there is a complete set of cabs on the hard drive. I can boot to an A
prompt and get to the C drive and see them. The install in there works, but
I aborted it after the start because I don't know what software key that set
of cabs uses. Is there a way to extract the key?

Thanks,

Avery,

ps: the original windows directory I can browse, too. Is there a way to
find the key there? If so, I could use the cabs to reinstall because in all
likelihood they are the ones originally used to install the OS.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

Hi Seabat,

Nope, that's the problem. There is no setting in the cmos to make it boot
from a CD, if there was, I could just use the win98 CD. Then again, I
don't know how to make a boot CD. I can make a bootable floppy, though.
Well, I can let windows make one for me anyway.

Thanks,

Avery

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:35:39 -0500 Not alowing their prejudice to rule
their future "~ Avery Anderson~" <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote :

>Hi,
>A friend gave me an old NEC Versa laptop. It has no usb, it was made around
>1996, it has a one gig hard drive in it. Serial port, parallel port,
>pciamci slot or whatever its called with a 28k modem in it, a video out, and
>one bay that can hold either a 3 1/2" floppy drive, or a 2X cdrom, both of
>which I have.
>
>Here's the problem, it has win98 on it but it doesn't load, it halts saying
>no himem.sys

Faulty RAM.



--
Free Windows/PC help,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
remove obvious to reply
email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

Shep,
Thanks, I didn't pull the memory, and reinstall. Will do.
Avery

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:35:39 -0500, "~ Avery Anderson~"
<bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:

>Hi,
>A friend gave me an old NEC Versa laptop. It has no usb, it was made around
>1996, it has a one gig hard drive in it. Serial port, parallel port,
>pciamci slot or whatever its called with a 28k modem in it, a video out, and
>one bay that can hold either a 3 1/2" floppy drive, or a 2X cdrom, both of
>which I have.
>
>Here's the problem, it has win98 on it but it doesn't load, it halts saying
>no himem.sys loaded or something like that. So I tried copying the file
>from a floppy into the windows directory but it never seems to get in there
>because I continually get the same message. Even after it says the file was
>copied. Then I made a directory on the hard drive, and copied himem.sys to
>it, and sure enough it was there. Then I copied it from there to the
>windows directory, and it isn't there, and booting gives me the same error
>message.
>
>the drives aren't hot swappable, so the problem is I can't get to the cdrom.
>The win98 setup disk works in the 3.5 but it doesn't load cdrom drivers
>because it doesn't see a cdrom in the system because there isn't one. Even
>if it did, the system would crash if I pulled swapped the drives hot.
>
>The bios has no switches to change boot order. It only has 3.5 and then the
>c drive.
>
>So I sent a way for a 3.5 to 2.5 converter to put the drive in a regular
>computer and load the os from there, but no luck, the jack on the NEC's hard
>drive is smaller than the 2.5" on the converter, so about now I'm looking
>for some ideas.
>
>Thanks for any help with this,
>
>Avery
>


Do this:
From the floppy, format the disk (or at least wipe the system
folders), and install a basic bootable DOS with CD drivers.
Then let that system boot with the CDROM drive and Win98 disc, and run
install from it.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

> Do this:
> From the floppy, format the disk (or at least wipe the system
> folders), and install a basic bootable DOS with CD drivers.
> Then let that system boot with the CDROM drive and Win98 disc, and run
> install from it.

Your idea sounds promising, if I'm understanding it correctly.
Are you saying re-format the hard drive?

By install do you mean copy the win98 boot disk
onto the freshly formatted hard drive?

Then swap the 3 1/2 drive for the optical,
then reboot and the hard drive will do what
the boot disk does, and I'll have access to the
optical drive?

Avery

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

"~ Avery Anderson~" <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:Rtednd-vFrR-tmHcRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
> Hi,
> A friend gave me an old NEC Versa laptop. It has no usb, it was made
> around 1996, it has a one gig hard drive in it. Serial port, parallel
> port, pciamci slot or whatever its called with a 28k modem in it, a video
> out, and one bay that can hold either a 3 1/2" floppy drive, or a 2X
> cdrom, both of which I have.
>
> Here's the problem, it has win98 on it but it doesn't load, it halts
> saying no himem.sys loaded or something like that. So I tried copying the
> file from a floppy into the windows directory but it never seems to get in
> there because I continually get the same message. Even after it says the
> file was copied. Then I made a directory on the hard drive, and copied
> himem.sys to it, and sure enough it was there. Then I copied it from
> there to the windows directory, and it isn't there, and booting gives me
> the same error message.

Perhaps you are missing something here, although Himem.sys exists, is it
being loaded by the autoexec.bat file.

MJP

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

> Perhaps you are missing something here, although Himem.sys exists, is it
> being loaded by the autoexec.bat file.
>
> MJP

I just assumed a win98 boot disk, would load what ever it needed.
I'll check the batch file.
thanks,
Avery

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

"MJP" <mjpjunk32@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"~ Avery Anderson~" <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote in message

>> A friend gave me an old NEC Versa laptop. It has no usb, it was
>> made around 1996, it has a one gig hard drive in it. Serial
>> port, parallel port, pciamci slot or whatever its called with a
>> 28k modem in it, a video out, and one bay that can hold either a
>> 3 1/2" floppy drive, or a 2X cdrom, both of which I have.
>> Here's the problem, it has win98 on it but it doesn't load, it
>> halts saying no himem.sys loaded or something like that. So I
>> tried copying the file from a floppy into the windows directory
>> but it never seems to get in there because I continually get the
>> same message. Even after it says the file was copied. Then I
>> made a directory on the hard drive, and copied himem.sys to it,
>> and sure enough it was there. Then I copied it from there to the
>> windows directory, and it isn't there, and booting gives me the
>> same error message.
>
>Perhaps you are missing something here, although Himem.sys exists,
>is it being loaded by the autoexec.bat file.

I would think that is the problem.

Man, I messed with AUTOEXEC.BAT, CONFIG.SYS, and all the trappings
thousands of times. Those were the days, I guess.

When desperate to compute, with much effort I stuffed Windows 95 and
AOL on a 41GB hard disk drive.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

>...on a 41GB hard disk drive.

I meant 41MB.

It's been a long time.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:22:50 -0000 Not alowing their prejudice to rule
their future "MJP" <mjpjunk32@hotmail.com> wrote :

>
>"~ Avery Anderson~" <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>news:Rtednd-vFrR-tmHcRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
>> Hi,
>> A friend gave me an old NEC Versa laptop. It has no usb, it was made
>> around 1996, it has a one gig hard drive in it. Serial port, parallel
>> port, pciamci slot or whatever its called with a 28k modem in it, a video
>> out, and one bay that can hold either a 3 1/2" floppy drive, or a 2X
>> cdrom, both of which I have.
>>
>> Here's the problem, it has win98 on it but it doesn't load, it halts
>> saying no himem.sys loaded or something like that. So I tried copying the
>> file from a floppy into the windows directory but it never seems to get in
>> there because I continually get the same message. Even after it says the
>> file was copied. Then I made a directory on the hard drive, and copied
>> himem.sys to it, and sure enough it was there. Then I copied it from
>> there to the windows directory, and it isn't there, and booting gives me
>> the same error message.
>
>Perhaps you are missing something here, although Himem.sys exists, is it
>being loaded by the autoexec.bat file.
>
>MJP

Himem.sys is loaded ny default in win98 and does not require any lines
in the Autoexec.bat.
The reason I have posted that the fault is in the RAM is because of
the Fault Call about himem.sys as it's loaded early in the boot
sequence and if it cannot be found it usually means there's faulty
memory addresses in the RAM sticks.
HTH



--
Free Windows/PC help,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
remove obvious to reply
email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

In article <qv0qv09ko83j0gspo3kaug017mh9j0ulcf@4ax.com>,
Shep© <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:22:50 -0000 Not alowing their prejudice to rule
>their future "MJP" <mjpjunk32@hotmail.com> wrote :
>
>>
>>"~ Avery Anderson~" <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>>news:Rtednd-vFrR-tmHcRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
>>> Hi,
>>> A friend gave me an old NEC Versa laptop. It has no usb, it was made
>>> around 1996, it has a one gig hard drive in it. Serial port, parallel
>>> port, pciamci slot or whatever its called with a 28k modem in it, a video
>>> out, and one bay that can hold either a 3 1/2" floppy drive, or a 2X
>>> cdrom, both of which I have.
>>>
>>> Here's the problem, it has win98 on it but it doesn't load, it halts
>>> saying no himem.sys loaded or something like that. So I tried copying the
>>> file from a floppy into the windows directory but it never seems to get in
>>> there because I continually get the same message. Even after it says the
>>> file was copied. Then I made a directory on the hard drive, and copied
>>> himem.sys to it, and sure enough it was there. Then I copied it from
>>> there to the windows directory, and it isn't there, and booting gives me
>>> the same error message.
>>
>>Perhaps you are missing something here, although Himem.sys exists, is it
>>being loaded by the autoexec.bat file.
>>
>>MJP
>
>Himem.sys is loaded ny default in win98 and does not require any lines
>in the Autoexec.bat.
>The reason I have posted that the fault is in the RAM is because of
>the Fault Call about himem.sys as it's loaded early in the boot
>sequence and if it cannot be found it usually means there's faulty
>memory addresses in the RAM sticks.
>HTH
>
>
>
>--
>Free Windows/PC help,
>http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
>remove obvious to reply
>email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
>Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
>http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm


The frist PC CDrom readers had proprietary controllers that needed
driver software. YOu might look into th eLinux laptop world to see if
they've identified what's in your model.

--

a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:59:05 -0500, "~ Avery Anderson~"
<bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:

>> Do this:
>> From the floppy, format the disk (or at least wipe the system
>> folders), and install a basic bootable DOS with CD drivers.
>> Then let that system boot with the CDROM drive and Win98 disc, and run
>> install from it.
>
>Your idea sounds promising, if I'm understanding it correctly.
>Are you saying re-format the hard drive?
>

If it needs it.

>By install do you mean copy the win98 boot disk
>onto the freshly formatted hard drive?

Not necessarily, just run the installer from the CD.
>
>Then swap the 3 1/2 drive for the optical,
>then reboot and the hard drive will do what
>the boot disk does, and I'll have access to the
>optical drive?
>


Yes.The HDD will boot into DOS with CD drivers.

>Avery
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

"Gary J. Tait" <classicsat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:if0rv0dqea2kv64rrk36ck45h1qofbb2r2@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:59:05 -0500, "~ Avery Anderson~"
> <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>>> Do this:
>>> From the floppy, format the disk (or at least wipe the system
>>> folders), and install a basic bootable DOS with CD drivers.
>>> Then let that system boot with the CDROM drive and Win98 disc, and run
>>> install from it.
>>
>>Your idea sounds promising, if I'm understanding it correctly.
>>Are you saying re-format the hard drive?
>>
>
> If it needs it.
>
>>By install do you mean copy the win98 boot disk
>>onto the freshly formatted hard drive?
>
> Not necessarily, just run the installer from the CD.

........... here is whear I'm loosing you. The problem is I can only get to
the A drive, via a win98 boot disk. Once there I can access the C drive.
If I boot with the cdrom drive in the comuter, it doesn't boot at all. So,
what does it mean to "just run the installer from the CD? To show you how
stupid I really am, "what's an installer?" the code that loads the operating
system? Sorry I'm being so dense here.

>>
>>Then swap the 3 1/2 drive for the optical,
>>then reboot and the hard drive will do what
>>the boot disk does, and I'll have access to the
>>optical drive?
>>
>
>

......but I can't get here if I can't "run the installer frm the CD." right?

> Yes.The HDD will boot into DOS with CD drivers.
>
>>Avery
>>
>

 

[john]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

dont format the c drive you will lose all the cab files that are on there
and if setup is also on there you can install from the hdd

boot to a:\
then do this -

sys c:

this will copy system files from your boot disk to the c drive [HDD]
then it will boot from the hard drive to a minimal dos prompt
from there you can run setup on the cdrom, if you can build an autoexec file
with cdrom drivers

however

i believe shep's right, you may not get too far anyway with the ram probs,

this machine may not be worth the trouble ;>{



"~ Avery Anderson~" <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:-8idnQWh_sKL62PcRVn-tg@comcast.com...
>
> "Gary J. Tait" <classicsat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:if0rv0dqea2kv64rrk36ck45h1qofbb2r2@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:59:05 -0500, "~ Avery Anderson~"
> > <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> Do this:
> >>> From the floppy, format the disk (or at least wipe the system
> >>> folders), and install a basic bootable DOS with CD drivers.
> >>> Then let that system boot with the CDROM drive and Win98 disc, and run
> >>> install from it.
> >>
> >>Your idea sounds promising, if I'm understanding it correctly.
> >>Are you saying re-format the hard drive?
> >>
> >
> > If it needs it.
> >
> >>By install do you mean copy the win98 boot disk
> >>onto the freshly formatted hard drive?
> >
> > Not necessarily, just run the installer from the CD.
>
> .......... here is whear I'm loosing you. The problem is I can only get
to
> the A drive, via a win98 boot disk. Once there I can access the C drive.
> If I boot with the cdrom drive in the comuter, it doesn't boot at all.
So,
> what does it mean to "just run the installer from the CD? To show you how
> stupid I really am, "what's an installer?" the code that loads the
operating
> system? Sorry I'm being so dense here.
>
> >>
> >>Then swap the 3 1/2 drive for the optical,
> >>then reboot and the hard drive will do what
> >>the boot disk does, and I'll have access to the
> >>optical drive?
> >>
> >
> >
>
> .....but I can't get here if I can't "run the installer frm the CD."
right?
>
> > Yes.The HDD will boot into DOS with CD drivers.
> >
> >>Avery
> >>
> >
>
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

succcess at last! It's up and running.
Thanks for all the suggestings, and ideas.
From haveing no clue what to do next, you guys gave me options galore.
Anyway, the one that worked was Shep's idea about the memory.
I pulled it and was going to clean the pins, but guess what? There are no
pins. It's built the other way around, the memory moduel, 16 megs I might
add, has a double series of holes in it, and the pins are on the computer.
I blow into the holes with compressed air, and reinstalled.

Then it was the same old thing, but when I went into cmos and set the time
and date (which only goes up to 1999) and then booted warm, it saw the cdrom
and the hard drive and loaded win98. It has word 2000 on it, and it ran
perfectly.

I can't thank all you guys for taking the time to help me with this, and
especially for not getting frustrated with my stupid questions.

Avery

ps: next step is the screwdrive and go searching for the cmos battery.

oh yeah, by the way, I never mentioned that it runs on a
intel pentium 120 cpu.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

On 30 Jan 2005 19:46:22 -0500 Not alowing their prejudice to rule
their future adykes@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote :

>In article <qv0qv09ko83j0gspo3kaug017mh9j0ulcf@4ax.com>,
>Shep© <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
>>On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:22:50 -0000 Not alowing their prejudice to rule
>>their future "MJP" <mjpjunk32@hotmail.com> wrote :
>>
>>>
>>>"~ Avery Anderson~" <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Rtednd-vFrR-tmHcRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> A friend gave me an old NEC Versa laptop. It has no usb, it was made
>>>> around 1996, it has a one gig hard drive in it. Serial port, parallel
>>>> port, pciamci slot or whatever its called with a 28k modem in it, a video
>>>> out, and one bay that can hold either a 3 1/2" floppy drive, or a 2X
>>>> cdrom, both of which I have.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the problem, it has win98 on it but it doesn't load, it halts
>>>> saying no himem.sys loaded or something like that. So I tried copying the
>>>> file from a floppy into the windows directory but it never seems to get in
>>>> there because I continually get the same message. Even after it says the
>>>> file was copied. Then I made a directory on the hard drive, and copied
>>>> himem.sys to it, and sure enough it was there. Then I copied it from
>>>> there to the windows directory, and it isn't there, and booting gives me
>>>> the same error message.
>>>
>>>Perhaps you are missing something here, although Himem.sys exists, is it
>>>being loaded by the autoexec.bat file.
>>>
>>>MJP
>>
>>Himem.sys is loaded ny default in win98 and does not require any lines
>>in the Autoexec.bat.
>>The reason I have posted that the fault is in the RAM is because of
>>the Fault Call about himem.sys as it's loaded early in the boot
>>sequence and if it cannot be found it usually means there's faulty
>>memory addresses in the RAM sticks.
>>HTH
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Free Windows/PC help,
>>http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
>>remove obvious to reply
>>email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
>>Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
>>http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm
>
>
>The frist PC CDrom readers had proprietary controllers that needed
>driver software. YOu might look into th eLinux laptop world to see if
>they've identified what's in your model.

This stopped in Win95A



--
Free Windows/PC help,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
remove obvious to reply
email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:16:37 -0500 Not alowing their prejudice to rule
their future "~ Avery Anderson~" <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote :

>
>"Gary J. Tait" <classicsat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:if0rv0dqea2kv64rrk36ck45h1qofbb2r2@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:59:05 -0500, "~ Avery Anderson~"
>> <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Do this:
>>>> From the floppy, format the disk (or at least wipe the system
>>>> folders), and install a basic bootable DOS with CD drivers.
>>>> Then let that system boot with the CDROM drive and Win98 disc, and run
>>>> install from it.
>>>
>>>Your idea sounds promising, if I'm understanding it correctly.
>>>Are you saying re-format the hard drive?
>>>
>>
>> If it needs it.
>>
>>>By install do you mean copy the win98 boot disk
>>>onto the freshly formatted hard drive?
>>
>> Not necessarily, just run the installer from the CD.
>
>.......... here is whear I'm loosing you. The problem is I can only get to
>the A drive, via a win98 boot disk. Once there I can access the C drive.
>If I boot with the cdrom drive in the comuter, it doesn't boot at all. So,
>what does it mean to "just run the installer from the CD? To show you how
>stupid I really am, "what's an installer?" the code that loads the operating
>system? Sorry I'm being so dense here.

Change the CMOS battery.It may not have enough charge to sustain the
BIOS.
HTH



--
Free Windows/PC help,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
remove obvious to reply
email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

Thanks for telling the solution, that is just as important as the help.

"~ Avery Anderson~" <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:

>succcess at last! It's up and running.
>Thanks for all the suggestings, and ideas.
....

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:16:37 -0500, "~ Avery Anderson~"
<bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:

>
>"Gary J. Tait" <classicsat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:if0rv0dqea2kv64rrk36ck45h1qofbb2r2@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:59:05 -0500, "~ Avery Anderson~"
>> <bogus@nowhere.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> Do this:
>>>> From the floppy, format the disk (or at least wipe the system
>>>> folders), and install a basic bootable DOS with CD drivers.
>>>> Then let that system boot with the CDROM drive and Win98 disc, and run
>>>> install from it.
>>>
>>>Your idea sounds promising, if I'm understanding it correctly.
>>>Are you saying re-format the hard drive?
>>>
>>
>> If it needs it.
>>
>>>By install do you mean copy the win98 boot disk
>>>onto the freshly formatted hard drive?
>>
>> Not necessarily, just run the installer from the CD.
>
>.......... here is whear I'm loosing you. The problem is I can only get to
>the A drive, via a win98 boot disk. Once there I can access the C drive.
>If I boot with the cdrom drive in the comuter, it doesn't boot at all. So,
>what does it mean to "just run the installer from the CD? To show you how
>stupid I really am, "what's an installer?" the code that loads the operating
>system? Sorry I'm being so dense here.
>
>>>
>>>Then swap the 3 1/2 drive for the optical,
>>>then reboot and the hard drive will do what
>>>the boot disk does, and I'll have access to the
>>>optical drive?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>.....but I can't get here if I can't "run the installer frm the CD." right?
>
>> Yes.The HDD will boot into DOS with CD drivers.
>>
>>>Avery
>>>
>>
>


You format the C-drive fromthe floppy, with the system, so the HDD can
boot alone, where it can boot with the CD drivers.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:20:23 -0500 If I have seen farther it is
because I have stood on the shoulder of giants "~ Avery Anderson~"
<bogus@nowhere.net> wrote :

>succcess at last! It's up and running.
>Thanks for all the suggestings, and ideas.
>From haveing no clue what to do next, you guys gave me options galore.
>Anyway, the one that worked was Shep's idea about the memory.
>I pulled it and was going to clean the pins, but guess what? There are no
>pins. It's built the other way around, the memory moduel, 16 megs I might
>add, has a double series of holes in it, and the pins are on the computer.
>I blow into the holes with compressed air, and reinstalled.
>
>Then it was the same old thing, but when I went into cmos and set the time
>and date (which only goes up to 1999) and then booted warm, it saw the cdrom
>and the hard drive and loaded win98. It has word 2000 on it, and it ran
>perfectly.
>
>I can't thank all you guys for taking the time to help me with this, and
>especially for not getting frustrated with my stupid questions.
>
>Avery
>
>ps: next step is the screwdrive and go searching for the cmos battery.
>
>oh yeah, by the way, I never mentioned that it runs on a
> intel pentium 120 cpu.
>

Glad you got it fixed



--
Free Windows/PC help,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html
remove obvious to reply
email shep@obviouspartyheld.de
Free original songs to download and,"BURN" :O)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/nomessiahsmusic.htm