Components needed? (TV over PC question)

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I'm moving into an apartment in a few months, and I'm working on an
"entertainment PC".

I'm working on the TV side of the design at the moment, and I've come across
a lot of information, so I was hoping to get a breakdown of the different
hardware / software essentials.

What I want the system to do:

Get TV input from our cable.

Output to a nearby TV.

Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we can pause and
rewind).

Be able to record one channel while watching another.

Broadcast over my network.


Now, I'm going to list those things again, but this time with my hardware /
software interpretation of what I will need to do this. I'd love feedback
on whether this is correct or even close, please.

Get TV input from our cable. - Tuner Card.
Output to a nearby TV. - Video card with TV out.
Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we can pause and
rewind). - Software, should come with Tuner card.
Be able to record one channel while watching another. - Multiple tuner
cards? A specific tuner card?
Broadcast over my network. - Software such as SnapStream
(www.snapstream.com).

Alright, how off am I in my assumptions?

Thanks in advance,
~Chris

 

[jad]

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ATI 'all in wonder' vidcard.. tuner plus video RCA in/out

"Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
message news:x_OdnZFKuM8Xl2DcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
> I'm moving into an apartment in a few months, and I'm working on an
> "entertainment PC".
>
> I'm working on the TV side of the design at the moment, and I've
come across
> a lot of information, so I was hoping to get a breakdown of the
different
> hardware / software essentials.
>
> What I want the system to do:
>
> Get TV input from our cable.
>
> Output to a nearby TV.
>
> Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we can
pause and
> rewind).
>
> Be able to record one channel while watching another.
>
> Broadcast over my network.
>
>
> Now, I'm going to list those things again, but this time with my
hardware /
> software interpretation of what I will need to do this. I'd love
feedback
> on whether this is correct or even close, please.
>
> Get TV input from our cable. - Tuner Card.
> Output to a nearby TV. - Video card with TV out.
> Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we can
pause and
> rewind). - Software, should come with Tuner card.
> Be able to record one channel while watching another. - Multiple
tuner
> cards? A specific tuner card?
> Broadcast over my network. - Software such as SnapStream
> (www.snapstream.com).
>
> Alright, how off am I in my assumptions?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> ~Chris
>
>
>
>

 

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Chris Martin wrote:
> Get TV input from our cable. - Tuner Card.
> Output to a nearby TV. - Video card with TV out.
> Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we can pause and
> rewind). - Software, should come with Tuner card.
> Be able to record one channel while watching another. - Multiple tuner
> cards? A specific tuner card?
> Broadcast over my network. - Software such as SnapStream
> (www.snapstream.com).
>
> Alright, how off am I in my assumptions?

Sounds about right. For watching one channel while recording another,
you'll probably want two tuner cards. Perhaps a two-tuner card, such
as the PVR-500... assuming the software/os supports it.

I don't have any experience with SnapStream, however. MythTV works
quite well for me.


--
-WD

 

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"Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:INednQfVvpXNj2DcRVn-gg@comcast.com...
> Chris Martin wrote:
> > Get TV input from our cable. - Tuner Card.
> > Output to a nearby TV. - Video card with TV out.
> > Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we can pause
and
> > rewind). - Software, should come with Tuner card.
> > Be able to record one channel while watching another. - Multiple
tuner
> > cards? A specific tuner card?
> > Broadcast over my network. - Software such as SnapStream
> > (www.snapstream.com).
> >
> > Alright, how off am I in my assumptions?
>
> Sounds about right. For watching one channel while recording another,
> you'll probably want two tuner cards. Perhaps a two-tuner card, such
> as the PVR-500... assuming the software/os supports it.
>
> I don't have any experience with SnapStream, however. MythTV works
> quite well for me.
>
>
> --
> -WD

I saw something on MythTV, I'll go check that out right now, thanks. Happen
to know pro's and con's of multi-tuner cards versus a card with a single
tuner? The system I'm building is gonne be rather high end, uber-memory,
raid 0, couple gigs of low latency ram.. so I'd hate to have the system
start hiccuping because one tuner can't handle it as well as two can, or two
seperate tuners interfere with each other, etc.

Thanks for the quick response, looking forward to more.
~Chris

 

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I don't think this would allow for watching and recording at the same time
or broadcasting over a network.


"JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
news:K79Ld.25193$rB.24443@fe04.lga...
> ATI 'all in wonder' vidcard.. tuner plus video RCA in/out
>
> "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> message news:x_OdnZFKuM8Xl2DcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
> > I'm moving into an apartment in a few months, and I'm working on an
> > "entertainment PC".
> >
> > I'm working on the TV side of the design at the moment, and I've
> come across
> > a lot of information, so I was hoping to get a breakdown of the
> different
> > hardware / software essentials.
> >
> > What I want the system to do:
> >
> > Get TV input from our cable.
> >
> > Output to a nearby TV.
> >
> > Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we can
> pause and
> > rewind).
> >
> > Be able to record one channel while watching another.
> >
> > Broadcast over my network.
> >
> >
> > Now, I'm going to list those things again, but this time with my
> hardware /
> > software interpretation of what I will need to do this. I'd love
> feedback
> > on whether this is correct or even close, please.
> >
> > Get TV input from our cable. - Tuner Card.
> > Output to a nearby TV. - Video card with TV out.
> > Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we can
> pause and
> > rewind). - Software, should come with Tuner card.
> > Be able to record one channel while watching another. - Multiple
> tuner
> > cards? A specific tuner card?
> > Broadcast over my network. - Software such as SnapStream
> > (www.snapstream.com).
> >
> > Alright, how off am I in my assumptions?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > ~Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[jad]

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broadcasting over network is a software thing ( I believe there is a
Microsoft TV protocol).. all you need to do just about anything, is to
use the cable box or VCR to supply the the second channel. there are
little restrictions that can be annoying but with a little knowledge
and ingenuity its pretty cheap way to go. also remember that audio
though a computer, is controlled by the sound card.

record and watch 'different' channels? right?

"Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
message news:O4udnQpznIZiv2DcRVn-jQ@adelphia.com...
> I don't think this would allow for watching and recording at the
same time
> or broadcasting over a network.
>
>
> "JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:K79Ld.25193$rB.24443@fe04.lga...
> > ATI 'all in wonder' vidcard.. tuner plus video RCA in/out
> >
> > "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> > message news:x_OdnZFKuM8Xl2DcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
> > > I'm moving into an apartment in a few months, and I'm working on
an
> > > "entertainment PC".
> > >
> > > I'm working on the TV side of the design at the moment, and I've
> > come across
> > > a lot of information, so I was hoping to get a breakdown of the
> > different
> > > hardware / software essentials.
> > >
> > > What I want the system to do:
> > >
> > > Get TV input from our cable.
> > >
> > > Output to a nearby TV.
> > >
> > > Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we
can
> > pause and
> > > rewind).
> > >
> > > Be able to record one channel while watching another.
> > >
> > > Broadcast over my network.
> > >
> > >
> > > Now, I'm going to list those things again, but this time with my
> > hardware /
> > > software interpretation of what I will need to do this. I'd
love
> > feedback
> > > on whether this is correct or even close, please.
> > >
> > > Get TV input from our cable. - Tuner Card.
> > > Output to a nearby TV. - Video card with TV out.
> > > Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we
can
> > pause and
> > > rewind). - Software, should come with Tuner card.
> > > Be able to record one channel while watching another. -
Multiple
> > tuner
> > > cards? A specific tuner card?
> > > Broadcast over my network. - Software such as SnapStream
> > > (www.snapstream.com).
> > >
> > > Alright, how off am I in my assumptions?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > ~Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

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Chris Martin wrote:
> I saw something on MythTV, I'll go check that out right now, thanks. Happen
> to know pro's and con's of multi-tuner cards versus a card with a single
> tuner?

Well, the Linux support for the PVR-500 is somewhat questionable at the
moment. I believe they just added preliminary support (whatever that
means) to ivtv for the card this month:

http://www.byopvr.com/displayarticle252.html

A pair of PVR-250 cards, however, might be the better bet as the support
for them is quite stable.

> The system I'm building is gonne be rather high end, uber-memory,
> raid 0, couple gigs of low latency ram.. so I'd hate to have the system
> start hiccuping because one tuner can't handle it as well as two can, or two
> seperate tuners interfere with each other, etc.

Would probably be overkill for a dedicated MythTV machine. Since the
PVR-250 does MPEG2 encoding in hardware, the CPU time required for
recording is nearly zero. Just whatever is required to transfer data
across the PCI bus to the hard drive. The only real requirement is a
healthy PCI bus implementation. Some older VIA chipsets lack in this
department, causing system hangs.

Having multiple PVR-250s in a MythTV system is quite common. While I
don't have this myself (yet?), it shouldn't be a problem.

I'm questioning your choice of RAID0, though. A TV stream from my
PVR-250 requires something like 3-5MB/sec (depending on quality
setting). Two simultaneous streams would hardly stress any halfway
modern hard drive. Are you sure you want to risk losing all your data
if a single drive fails? I currently record to a RAID5 NAS unit.


--
-WD

 

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Yes, record and broadcast different channels. So in that case I would need
two inputs, correct?


"JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
newsP9Ld.25724$561.2135@fe04.lga...
> broadcasting over network is a software thing ( I believe there is a
> Microsoft TV protocol).. all you need to do just about anything, is to
> use the cable box or VCR to supply the the second channel. there are
> little restrictions that can be annoying but with a little knowledge
> and ingenuity its pretty cheap way to go. also remember that audio
> though a computer, is controlled by the sound card.
>
> record and watch 'different' channels? right?
>
> "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> message news:O4udnQpznIZiv2DcRVn-jQ@adelphia.com...
> > I don't think this would allow for watching and recording at the
> same time
> > or broadcasting over a network.
> >
> >
> > "JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
> > news:K79Ld.25193$rB.24443@fe04.lga...
> > > ATI 'all in wonder' vidcard.. tuner plus video RCA in/out
> > >
> > > "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> > > message news:x_OdnZFKuM8Xl2DcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
> > > > I'm moving into an apartment in a few months, and I'm working on
> an
> > > > "entertainment PC".
> > > >
> > > > I'm working on the TV side of the design at the moment, and I've
> > > come across
> > > > a lot of information, so I was hoping to get a breakdown of the
> > > different
> > > > hardware / software essentials.
> > > >
> > > > What I want the system to do:
> > > >
> > > > Get TV input from our cable.
> > > >
> > > > Output to a nearby TV.
> > > >
> > > > Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we
> can
> > > pause and
> > > > rewind).
> > > >
> > > > Be able to record one channel while watching another.
> > > >
> > > > Broadcast over my network.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now, I'm going to list those things again, but this time with my
> > > hardware /
> > > > software interpretation of what I will need to do this. I'd
> love
> > > feedback
> > > > on whether this is correct or even close, please.
> > > >
> > > > Get TV input from our cable. - Tuner Card.
> > > > Output to a nearby TV. - Video card with TV out.
> > > > Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so we
> can
> > > pause and
> > > > rewind). - Software, should come with Tuner card.
> > > > Be able to record one channel while watching another. -
> Multiple
> > > tuner
> > > > cards? A specific tuner card?
> > > > Broadcast over my network. - Software such as SnapStream
> > > > (www.snapstream.com).
> > > >
> > > > Alright, how off am I in my assumptions?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > ~Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[jad]

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the all in wonder has a 'tuner' input and a 'audio/video RCA' input
also. you can switch between these inputs from within the software.
while watching TV you can be recording a different station on the
computer.


"Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
message news:vJadndQB0pIXt2DcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
> Yes, record and broadcast different channels. So in that case I
would need
> two inputs, correct?
>
>
> "JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
> newsP9Ld.25724$561.2135@fe04.lga...
> > broadcasting over network is a software thing ( I believe there is
a
> > Microsoft TV protocol).. all you need to do just about anything,
is to
> > use the cable box or VCR to supply the the second channel. there
are
> > little restrictions that can be annoying but with a little
knowledge
> > and ingenuity its pretty cheap way to go. also remember that audio
> > though a computer, is controlled by the sound card.
> >
> > record and watch 'different' channels? right?
> >
> > "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> > message news:O4udnQpznIZiv2DcRVn-jQ@adelphia.com...
> > > I don't think this would allow for watching and recording at the
> > same time
> > > or broadcasting over a network.
> > >
> > >
> > > "JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
> > > news:K79Ld.25193$rB.24443@fe04.lga...
> > > > ATI 'all in wonder' vidcard.. tuner plus video RCA in/out
> > > >
> > > > "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote
in
> > > > message news:x_OdnZFKuM8Xl2DcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
> > > > > I'm moving into an apartment in a few months, and I'm
working on
> > an
> > > > > "entertainment PC".
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm working on the TV side of the design at the moment, and
I've
> > > > come across
> > > > > a lot of information, so I was hoping to get a breakdown of
the
> > > > different
> > > > > hardware / software essentials.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I want the system to do:
> > > > >
> > > > > Get TV input from our cable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Output to a nearby TV.
> > > > >
> > > > > Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so
we
> > can
> > > > pause and
> > > > > rewind).
> > > > >
> > > > > Be able to record one channel while watching another.
> > > > >
> > > > > Broadcast over my network.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, I'm going to list those things again, but this time
with my
> > > > hardware /
> > > > > software interpretation of what I will need to do this. I'd
> > love
> > > > feedback
> > > > > on whether this is correct or even close, please.
> > > > >
> > > > > Get TV input from our cable. - Tuner Card.
> > > > > Output to a nearby TV. - Video card with TV out.
> > > > > Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so
we
> > can
> > > > pause and
> > > > > rewind). - Software, should come with Tuner card.
> > > > > Be able to record one channel while watching another. -
> > Multiple
> > > > tuner
> > > > > cards? A specific tuner card?
> > > > > Broadcast over my network. - Software such as SnapStream
> > > > > (www.snapstream.com).
> > > > >
> > > > > Alright, how off am I in my assumptions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > ~Chris
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

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"Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:UKGdnY35s7bFtGDcRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> Chris Martin wrote:
> > I saw something on MythTV, I'll go check that out right now, thanks.
Happen
> > to know pro's and con's of multi-tuner cards versus a card with a single
> > tuner?
>
> Well, the Linux support for the PVR-500 is somewhat questionable at the
> moment. I believe they just added preliminary support (whatever that
> means) to ivtv for the card this month:
>
> http://www.byopvr.com/displayarticle252.html
>
> A pair of PVR-250 cards, however, might be the better bet as the support
> for them is quite stable.
>
> > The system I'm building is gonne be rather high end, uber-memory,
> > raid 0, couple gigs of low latency ram.. so I'd hate to have the system
> > start hiccuping because one tuner can't handle it as well as two can, or
two
> > seperate tuners interfere with each other, etc.
>
> Would probably be overkill for a dedicated MythTV machine. Since the
> PVR-250 does MPEG2 encoding in hardware, the CPU time required for
> recording is nearly zero. Just whatever is required to transfer data
> across the PCI bus to the hard drive. The only real requirement is a
> healthy PCI bus implementation. Some older VIA chipsets lack in this
> department, causing system hangs.
>
> Having multiple PVR-250s in a MythTV system is quite common. While I
> don't have this myself (yet?), it shouldn't be a problem.
>
> I'm questioning your choice of RAID0, though. A TV stream from my
> PVR-250 requires something like 3-5MB/sec (depending on quality
> setting). Two simultaneous streams would hardly stress any halfway
> modern hard drive. Are you sure you want to risk losing all your data
> if a single drive fails? I currently record to a RAID5 NAS unit.
>
>
> --
> -WD

To be honest, I hadn't really thought about writing to a NAS unit. One of
the reasons I wanted to set this system up was the learning experience it
would give me. I've only used basic networking equipment (low end home
networking stuff, basic linksys routers, some random switches and hubs).
I've never set up or ran a dedicated server or a NAS. Might be something I
should look at.

Here's an odd question, maybe you or someone reading the thread could
answer:

I'm moving into an apartment, which is pre-wired for internet. How would my
home network work across this stuff? If I have a computer in one room, and
a computer in another, and they are both plugged into the wall, what's the
setup like? Are all rooms in an apartment wired together into one loop and
then pulled out at a single point, creating a small subnetwork, or is it
just one big network with no divisions? Is that something that varies from
apartment to apartment? To get my own network, do I need to assign myself a
domain / workgroup so that the people in the next apartment over aren't
going to be browsing my shared folders?

Bit off topic from the OP, so I apologize for this, but it's relevant
because it'll change the way I set up my system.

 

[jad]

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there should be a central room where all room cables come together. In
my experience its been a 'phone' line network that apartments offer, I
have seen 'condos'' rigged for LAN.

"Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
message news:mbSdnXe8-YZ1sWDcRVn-gQ@adelphia.com...
>
> "Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:UKGdnY35s7bFtGDcRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> > Chris Martin wrote:
> > > I saw something on MythTV, I'll go check that out right now,
thanks.
> Happen
> > > to know pro's and con's of multi-tuner cards versus a card with
a single
> > > tuner?
> >
> > Well, the Linux support for the PVR-500 is somewhat questionable
at the
> > moment. I believe they just added preliminary support (whatever
that
> > means) to ivtv for the card this month:
> >
> > http://www.byopvr.com/displayarticle252.html
> >
> > A pair of PVR-250 cards, however, might be the better bet as the
support
> > for them is quite stable.
> >
> > > The system I'm building is gonne be rather high end,
uber-memory,
> > > raid 0, couple gigs of low latency ram.. so I'd hate to have the
system
> > > start hiccuping because one tuner can't handle it as well as two
can, or
> two
> > > seperate tuners interfere with each other, etc.
> >
> > Would probably be overkill for a dedicated MythTV machine. Since
the
> > PVR-250 does MPEG2 encoding in hardware, the CPU time required for
> > recording is nearly zero. Just whatever is required to transfer
data
> > across the PCI bus to the hard drive. The only real requirement
is a
> > healthy PCI bus implementation. Some older VIA chipsets lack in
this
> > department, causing system hangs.
> >
> > Having multiple PVR-250s in a MythTV system is quite common.
While I
> > don't have this myself (yet?), it shouldn't be a problem.
> >
> > I'm questioning your choice of RAID0, though. A TV stream from
my
> > PVR-250 requires something like 3-5MB/sec (depending on quality
> > setting). Two simultaneous streams would hardly stress any
halfway
> > modern hard drive. Are you sure you want to risk losing all your
data
> > if a single drive fails? I currently record to a RAID5 NAS unit.
> >
> >
> > --
> > -WD
>
> To be honest, I hadn't really thought about writing to a NAS unit.
One of
> the reasons I wanted to set this system up was the learning
experience it
> would give me. I've only used basic networking equipment (low end
home
> networking stuff, basic linksys routers, some random switches and
hubs).
> I've never set up or ran a dedicated server or a NAS. Might be
something I
> should look at.
>
> Here's an odd question, maybe you or someone reading the thread
could
> answer:
>
> I'm moving into an apartment, which is pre-wired for internet. How
would my
> home network work across this stuff? If I have a computer in one
room, and
> a computer in another, and they are both plugged into the wall,
what's the
> setup like? Are all rooms in an apartment wired together into one
loop and
> then pulled out at a single point, creating a small subnetwork, or
is it
> just one big network with no divisions? Is that something that
varies from
> apartment to apartment? To get my own network, do I need to assign
myself a
> domain / workgroup so that the people in the next apartment over
aren't
> going to be browsing my shared folders?
>
> Bit off topic from the OP, so I apologize for this, but it's
relevant
> because it'll change the way I set up my system.
>
>

 

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I had read somewhere that the drivers for the ATI-All in Wonders caused
conflicts with a lot of the TV software that is available, and that stand
alone TV tuners would work better because of that. In your experience, this
is not the case?

"JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
news:v%9Ld.25873$y31.17173@fe04.lga...
> the all in wonder has a 'tuner' input and a 'audio/video RCA' input
> also. you can switch between these inputs from within the software.
> while watching TV you can be recording a different station on the
> computer.
>
>
> "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> message news:vJadndQB0pIXt2DcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
> > Yes, record and broadcast different channels. So in that case I
> would need
> > two inputs, correct?
> >
> >
> > "JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
> > newsP9Ld.25724$561.2135@fe04.lga...
> > > broadcasting over network is a software thing ( I believe there is
> a
> > > Microsoft TV protocol).. all you need to do just about anything,
> is to
> > > use the cable box or VCR to supply the the second channel. there
> are
> > > little restrictions that can be annoying but with a little
> knowledge
> > > and ingenuity its pretty cheap way to go. also remember that audio
> > > though a computer, is controlled by the sound card.
> > >
> > > record and watch 'different' channels? right?
> > >

<SNIP>

 

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I haven't had the need to use network broadcast yet. If something
becomes popular enough the drivers will work themselves out. Most
driver hype I find is misinformation, but I will look into that and
see if there are any confirmed drivers problems.

"Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
message news:d_mdnc3iaMr8sGDcRVn-gw@adelphia.com...
> I had read somewhere that the drivers for the ATI-All in Wonders
caused
> conflicts with a lot of the TV software that is available, and that
stand
> alone TV tuners would work better because of that. In your
experience, this
> is not the case?
>
> "JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:v%9Ld.25873$y31.17173@fe04.lga...
> > the all in wonder has a 'tuner' input and a 'audio/video RCA'
input
> > also. you can switch between these inputs from within the
software.
> > while watching TV you can be recording a different station on the
> > computer.
> >
> >
> > "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> > message news:vJadndQB0pIXt2DcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
> > > Yes, record and broadcast different channels. So in that case I
> > would need
> > > two inputs, correct?
> > >
> > >
> > > "JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
> > > newsP9Ld.25724$561.2135@fe04.lga...
> > > > broadcasting over network is a software thing ( I believe
there is
> > a
> > > > Microsoft TV protocol).. all you need to do just about
anything,
> > is to
> > > > use the cable box or VCR to supply the the second channel.
there
> > are
> > > > little restrictions that can be annoying but with a little
> > knowledge
> > > > and ingenuity its pretty cheap way to go. also remember that
audio
> > > > though a computer, is controlled by the sound card.
> > > >
> > > > record and watch 'different' channels? right?
> > > >
>
> <SNIP>
>
>

 

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Chris Martin wrote:
> To be honest, I hadn't really thought about writing to a NAS unit.

The main reason I do it that way is because my frontend system is a
small form factor unit (Asus Pundit). There's only room for one hard
drive. For a single stream, the 100Mbit ethernet is fine. If I ever
decided to go for multiple tuners, I'd most likely need to go for
Gigabit ethernet. (or a dedicated MythTV backend server with internal
hard drives)


> One of
> the reasons I wanted to set this system up was the learning experience it
> would give me. I've only used basic networking equipment (low end home
> networking stuff, basic linksys routers, some random switches and hubs).
> I've never set up or ran a dedicated server or a NAS. Might be something I
> should look at.

I have a dedicated NAS made out of an old K6-III box. No monitor, no
keyboard, just the box. The dedicated MythTV unit is the Pundit as I
mentioned before. The nature of the NAS and the MythTV require them to
be on all the time. (if you want it to have full Tivo-like
functionality wrt. scheduling recordings)

My personal computer, however, isn't in the loop anywhere. I can turn
it off whenever I want without missing any recordings or anything like that.



> Here's an odd question, maybe you or someone reading the thread could
> answer:
>
> I'm moving into an apartment, which is pre-wired for internet. How would my
> home network work across this stuff?

Depends on the apartment I guess. From a security perspective, I should
sure hope that they have the apartments isolated from eachother. You'd
probably need to ask. If that's not the case, I wouldn't plug a single
thing in until I got a firewall set up.



--
-WD

 

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:54:47 -0500, "Chris Martin"
<christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote:

>I had read somewhere that the drivers for the ATI-All in Wonders caused
>conflicts with a lot of the TV software that is available, and that stand
>alone TV tuners would work better because of that. In your experience, this
>is not the case?
I had All-In-Wonder. If and when the TV drivers screw up, you need to
mess with the video card drivers too. Now i use seperate TV card and
video card, WinTV & ATI Radeon. Ps. WinTV has lotsa third party stuff
written for it.
>
>"JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
>news:v%9Ld.25873$y31.17173@fe04.lga...
>> the all in wonder has a 'tuner' input and a 'audio/video RCA' input
>> also. you can switch between these inputs from within the software.
>> while watching TV you can be recording a different station on the
>> computer.
>>
>>
>> "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
>> message news:vJadndQB0pIXt2DcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
>> > Yes, record and broadcast different channels. So in that case I
>> would need
>> > two inputs, correct?
>> >
>> >
>> > "JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
>> > newsP9Ld.25724$561.2135@fe04.lga...
>> > > broadcasting over network is a software thing ( I believe there is
>> a
>> > > Microsoft TV protocol).. all you need to do just about anything,
>> is to
>> > > use the cable box or VCR to supply the the second channel. there
>> are
>> > > little restrictions that can be annoying but with a little
>> knowledge
>> > > and ingenuity its pretty cheap way to go. also remember that audio
>> > > though a computer, is controlled by the sound card.
>> > >
>> > > record and watch 'different' channels? right?
>> > >
>
><SNIP>
>

 

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The apartment is definately wired for LAN. I'm right outside of Washington
DC, the "upscale" apartments and all that. Paying an arm and a leg, but
it's a great place.


"JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
news:fkaLd.26144$rC1.17870@fe04.lga...
> there should be a central room where all room cables come together. In
> my experience its been a 'phone' line network that apartments offer, I
> have seen 'condos'' rigged for LAN.
>
> "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> message news:mbSdnXe8-YZ1sWDcRVn-gQ@adelphia.com...
> >
> > "Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:UKGdnY35s7bFtGDcRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> > > Chris Martin wrote:
> > > > I saw something on MythTV, I'll go check that out right now,
> thanks.
> > Happen
> > > > to know pro's and con's of multi-tuner cards versus a card with
> a single
> > > > tuner?
> > >
> > > Well, the Linux support for the PVR-500 is somewhat questionable
> at the
> > > moment. I believe they just added preliminary support (whatever
> that
> > > means) to ivtv for the card this month:
> > >
> > > http://www.byopvr.com/displayarticle252.html
> > >
> > > A pair of PVR-250 cards, however, might be the better bet as the
> support
> > > for them is quite stable.
> > >
> > > > The system I'm building is gonne be rather high end,
> uber-memory,
> > > > raid 0, couple gigs of low latency ram.. so I'd hate to have the
> system
> > > > start hiccuping because one tuner can't handle it as well as two
> can, or
> > two
> > > > seperate tuners interfere with each other, etc.
> > >
> > > Would probably be overkill for a dedicated MythTV machine. Since
> the
> > > PVR-250 does MPEG2 encoding in hardware, the CPU time required for
> > > recording is nearly zero. Just whatever is required to transfer
> data
> > > across the PCI bus to the hard drive. The only real requirement
> is a
> > > healthy PCI bus implementation. Some older VIA chipsets lack in
> this
> > > department, causing system hangs.
> > >
> > > Having multiple PVR-250s in a MythTV system is quite common.
> While I
> > > don't have this myself (yet?), it shouldn't be a problem.
> > >
> > > I'm questioning your choice of RAID0, though. A TV stream from
> my
> > > PVR-250 requires something like 3-5MB/sec (depending on quality
> > > setting). Two simultaneous streams would hardly stress any
> halfway
> > > modern hard drive. Are you sure you want to risk losing all your
> data
> > > if a single drive fails? I currently record to a RAID5 NAS unit.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -WD
> >
> > To be honest, I hadn't really thought about writing to a NAS unit.
> One of
> > the reasons I wanted to set this system up was the learning
> experience it
> > would give me. I've only used basic networking equipment (low end
> home
> > networking stuff, basic linksys routers, some random switches and
> hubs).
> > I've never set up or ran a dedicated server or a NAS. Might be
> something I
> > should look at.
> >
> > Here's an odd question, maybe you or someone reading the thread
> could
> > answer:
> >
> > I'm moving into an apartment, which is pre-wired for internet. How
> would my
> > home network work across this stuff? If I have a computer in one
> room, and
> > a computer in another, and they are both plugged into the wall,
> what's the
> > setup like? Are all rooms in an apartment wired together into one
> loop and
> > then pulled out at a single point, creating a small subnetwork, or
> is it
> > just one big network with no divisions? Is that something that
> varies from
> > apartment to apartment? To get my own network, do I need to assign
> myself a
> > domain / workgroup so that the people in the next apartment over
> aren't
> > going to be browsing my shared folders?
> >
> > Bit off topic from the OP, so I apologize for this, but it's
> relevant
> > because it'll change the way I set up my system.
> >
> >
>
>

 

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cool...watch for what tom mentioned.....if its a link to all
apartments, and they are supplying the internet, then watch out if
your going to open 'shares' without a FW.


"Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
message news:qMidnYXIZMdtp2DcRVn-rA@adelphia.com...
> The apartment is definately wired for LAN. I'm right outside of
Washington
> DC, the "upscale" apartments and all that. Paying an arm and a leg,
but
> it's a great place.
>
>
> "JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:fkaLd.26144$rC1.17870@fe04.lga...
> > there should be a central room where all room cables come
together. In
> > my experience its been a 'phone' line network that apartments
offer, I
> > have seen 'condos'' rigged for LAN.
> >
> > "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> > message news:mbSdnXe8-YZ1sWDcRVn-gQ@adelphia.com...
> > >
> > > "Will Dormann" <wdormann@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:UKGdnY35s7bFtGDcRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> > > > Chris Martin wrote:
> > > > > I saw something on MythTV, I'll go check that out right now,
> > thanks.
> > > Happen
> > > > > to know pro's and con's of multi-tuner cards versus a card
with
> > a single
> > > > > tuner?
> > > >
> > > > Well, the Linux support for the PVR-500 is somewhat
questionable
> > at the
> > > > moment. I believe they just added preliminary support
(whatever
> > that
> > > > means) to ivtv for the card this month:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.byopvr.com/displayarticle252.html
> > > >
> > > > A pair of PVR-250 cards, however, might be the better bet as
the
> > support
> > > > for them is quite stable.
> > > >
> > > > > The system I'm building is gonne be rather high end,
> > uber-memory,
> > > > > raid 0, couple gigs of low latency ram.. so I'd hate to have
the
> > system
> > > > > start hiccuping because one tuner can't handle it as well as
two
> > can, or
> > > two
> > > > > seperate tuners interfere with each other, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Would probably be overkill for a dedicated MythTV machine.
Since
> > the
> > > > PVR-250 does MPEG2 encoding in hardware, the CPU time required
for
> > > > recording is nearly zero. Just whatever is required to
transfer
> > data
> > > > across the PCI bus to the hard drive. The only real
requirement
> > is a
> > > > healthy PCI bus implementation. Some older VIA chipsets lack
in
> > this
> > > > department, causing system hangs.
> > > >
> > > > Having multiple PVR-250s in a MythTV system is quite common.
> > While I
> > > > don't have this myself (yet?), it shouldn't be a problem.
> > > >
> > > > I'm questioning your choice of RAID0, though. A TV stream
from
> > my
> > > > PVR-250 requires something like 3-5MB/sec (depending on
quality
> > > > setting). Two simultaneous streams would hardly stress any
> > halfway
> > > > modern hard drive. Are you sure you want to risk losing all
your
> > data
> > > > if a single drive fails? I currently record to a RAID5 NAS
unit.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -WD
> > >
> > > To be honest, I hadn't really thought about writing to a NAS
unit.
> > One of
> > > the reasons I wanted to set this system up was the learning
> > experience it
> > > would give me. I've only used basic networking equipment (low
end
> > home
> > > networking stuff, basic linksys routers, some random switches
and
> > hubs).
> > > I've never set up or ran a dedicated server or a NAS. Might be
> > something I
> > > should look at.
> > >
> > > Here's an odd question, maybe you or someone reading the thread
> > could
> > > answer:
> > >
> > > I'm moving into an apartment, which is pre-wired for internet.
How
> > would my
> > > home network work across this stuff? If I have a computer in
one
> > room, and
> > > a computer in another, and they are both plugged into the wall,
> > what's the
> > > setup like? Are all rooms in an apartment wired together into
one
> > loop and
> > > then pulled out at a single point, creating a small subnetwork,
or
> > is it
> > > just one big network with no divisions? Is that something that
> > varies from
> > > apartment to apartment? To get my own network, do I need to
assign
> > myself a
> > > domain / workgroup so that the people in the next apartment over
> > aren't
> > > going to be browsing my shared folders?
> > >
> > > Bit off topic from the OP, so I apologize for this, but it's
> > relevant
> > > because it'll change the way I set up my system.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:48:17 -0800, "JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net>
wrote:

>the all in wonder has a 'tuner' input and a 'audio/video RCA' input
>also. you can switch between these inputs from within the software.
>while watching TV you can be recording a different station on the
>computer.

But both use the same encoder chip, limiting one channel at a time
being input to the computer. A dual tuner PVR card or a single tuner
PVR card with the AIW would fulfill the needs.

 

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Chris Martin wrote:
> I had read somewhere that the drivers for the ATI-All in Wonders caused
> conflicts with a lot of the TV software that is available,

It isn't just the 'drivers', it's the hardware: not a bt8xx chipset.

> and that stand
> alone TV tuners would work better because of that.

Yes. Not only for the drivers but to separate the tuner from the display
card. You can't stream to and from the same slot, aka the display card, so
the way you get to 'see' what's being input with an 'all-in-wonder' is the
card bootstraps the video input straight to the display on the card itself.
That means, however, not ANY judder eliminator, or any filtering software,
can work with it.

You don't want an All-In-Wonder.


> In your experience, this
> is not the case?
>
> "JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:v%9Ld.25873$y31.17173@fe04.lga...
>
>>the all in wonder has a 'tuner' input and a 'audio/video RCA' input
>>also. you can switch between these inputs from within the software.
>>while watching TV you can be recording a different station on the
>>computer.
>>
>>
>>"Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
>>message news:vJadndQB0pIXt2DcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
>>
>>>Yes, record and broadcast different channels. So in that case I
>>
>>would need
>>
>>>two inputs, correct?
>>>
>>>
>>>"JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
>>>newsP9Ld.25724$561.2135@fe04.lga...
>>>
>>>>broadcasting over network is a software thing ( I believe there is
>>
>>a
>>
>>>>Microsoft TV protocol).. all you need to do just about anything,
>>
>>is to
>>
>>>>use the cable box or VCR to supply the the second channel. there
>>
>>are
>>
>>>>little restrictions that can be annoying but with a little
>>
>>knowledge
>>
>>>>and ingenuity its pretty cheap way to go. also remember that audio
>>>>though a computer, is controlled by the sound card.
>>>>
>>>>record and watch 'different' channels? right?
>>>>
>
>
> <SNIP>
>
>

 

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JAD wrote:

> the all in wonder has a 'tuner' input and a 'audio/video RCA' input
> also. you can switch between these inputs from within the software.
> while watching TV you can be recording a different station on the
> computer.

You can switch but both can't operate at the same time and you can't record
from one while watching the other.


> "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> message news:vJadndQB0pIXt2DcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
>
>>Yes, record and broadcast different channels. So in that case I
>
> would need
>
>>two inputs, correct?
>>
>>
>>"JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
>>newsP9Ld.25724$561.2135@fe04.lga...
>>
>>>broadcasting over network is a software thing ( I believe there is
>
> a
>
>>>Microsoft TV protocol).. all you need to do just about anything,
>
> is to
>
>>>use the cable box or VCR to supply the the second channel. there
>
> are
>
>>>little restrictions that can be annoying but with a little
>
> knowledge
>
>>>and ingenuity its pretty cheap way to go. also remember that audio
>>>though a computer, is controlled by the sound card.
>>>
>>>record and watch 'different' channels? right?
>>>
>>>"Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
>>>message news:O4udnQpznIZiv2DcRVn-jQ@adelphia.com...
>>>
>>>>I don't think this would allow for watching and recording at the
>>>
>>>same time
>>>
>>>>or broadcasting over a network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:K79Ld.25193$rB.24443@fe04.lga...
>>>>
>>>>>ATI 'all in wonder' vidcard.. tuner plus video RCA in/out
>>>>>
>>>>>"Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote
>
> in
>
>>>>>message news:x_OdnZFKuM8Xl2DcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm moving into an apartment in a few months, and I'm
>
> working on
>
>>>an
>>>
>>>>>>"entertainment PC".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm working on the TV side of the design at the moment, and
>
> I've
>
>>>>>come across
>>>>>
>>>>>>a lot of information, so I was hoping to get a breakdown of
>
> the
>
>>>>>different
>>>>>
>>>>>>hardware / software essentials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What I want the system to do:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get TV input from our cable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Output to a nearby TV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so
>
> we
>
>>>can
>>>
>>>>>pause and
>>>>>
>>>>>>rewind).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be able to record one channel while watching another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Broadcast over my network.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now, I'm going to list those things again, but this time
>
> with my
>
>>>>>hardware /
>>>>>
>>>>>>software interpretation of what I will need to do this. I'd
>>>
>>>love
>>>
>>>>>feedback
>>>>>
>>>>>>on whether this is correct or even close, please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get TV input from our cable. - Tuner Card.
>>>>>> Output to a nearby TV. - Video card with TV out.
>>>>>> Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so
>
> we
>
>>>can
>>>
>>>>>pause and
>>>>>
>>>>>>rewind). - Software, should come with Tuner card.
>>>>>> Be able to record one channel while watching another. -
>>>
>>>Multiple
>>>
>>>>>tuner
>>>>>
>>>>>>cards? A specific tuner card?
>>>>>> Broadcast over my network. - Software such as SnapStream
>>>>>>(www.snapstream.com).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Alright, how off am I in my assumptions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>~Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

 

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"David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:10vraedr9r9e61d@corp.supernews.com...
> JAD wrote:
>
> > the all in wonder has a 'tuner' input and a 'audio/video RCA' input
> > also. you can switch between these inputs from within the software.
> > while watching TV you can be recording a different station on the
> > computer.
>
> You can switch but both can't operate at the same time and you can't
record
> from one while watching the other.
>
You can only use one input on the card at a time but you can use an AIW card
and a TV Wonder card(need capable version)to do PIP/POP. With a 2 tuner
setup it is possible to capture and watch at the same time. ATIs name for it
is Multview. Using other than ATI software may be problematic. Have not used
it myself but Easyshare allows broadcasting to other computers.

I>
> > "Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> > message news:vJadndQB0pIXt2DcRVn-rw@adelphia.com...
> >
> >>Yes, record and broadcast different channels. So in that case I
> >
> > would need
> >
> >>two inputs, correct?
> >>
> >>
> >>"JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
> >>newsP9Ld.25724$561.2135@fe04.lga...
> >>
> >>>broadcasting over network is a software thing ( I believe there is
> >
> > a
> >
> >>>Microsoft TV protocol).. all you need to do just about anything,
> >
> > is to
> >
> >>>use the cable box or VCR to supply the the second channel. there
> >
> > are
> >
> >>>little restrictions that can be annoying but with a little
> >
> > knowledge
> >
> >>>and ingenuity its pretty cheap way to go. also remember that audio
> >>>though a computer, is controlled by the sound card.
> >>>
> >>>record and watch 'different' channels? right?
> >>>
> >>>"Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote in
> >>>message news:O4udnQpznIZiv2DcRVn-jQ@adelphia.com...
> >>>
> >>>>I don't think this would allow for watching and recording at the
> >>>
> >>>same time
> >>>
> >>>>or broadcasting over a network.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"JAD" <kapasitor@earthcharter.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:K79Ld.25193$rB.24443@fe04.lga...
> >>>>
> >>>>>ATI 'all in wonder' vidcard.. tuner plus video RCA in/out
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Chris Martin" <christopher.martin@REMOVEadelphia.net> wrote
> >
> > in
> >
> >>>>>message news:x_OdnZFKuM8Xl2DcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I'm moving into an apartment in a few months, and I'm
> >
> > working on
> >
> >>>an
> >>>
> >>>>>>"entertainment PC".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I'm working on the TV side of the design at the moment, and
> >
> > I've
> >
> >>>>>come across
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>a lot of information, so I was hoping to get a breakdown of
> >
> > the
> >
> >>>>>different
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>hardware / software essentials.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>What I want the system to do:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Get TV input from our cable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Output to a nearby TV.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so
> >
> > we
> >
> >>>can
> >>>
> >>>>>pause and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>rewind).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Be able to record one channel while watching another.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Broadcast over my network.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Now, I'm going to list those things again, but this time
> >
> > with my
> >
> >>>>>hardware /
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>software interpretation of what I will need to do this. I'd
> >>>
> >>>love
> >>>
> >>>>>feedback
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>on whether this is correct or even close, please.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Get TV input from our cable. - Tuner Card.
> >>>>>> Output to a nearby TV. - Video card with TV out.
> >>>>>> Record shows, in entirety or in part (such as tivo, so
> >
> > we
> >
> >>>can
> >>>
> >>>>>pause and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>rewind). - Software, should come with Tuner card.
> >>>>>> Be able to record one channel while watching another. -
> >>>
> >>>Multiple
> >>>
> >>>>>tuner
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>cards? A specific tuner card?
> >>>>>> Broadcast over my network. - Software such as SnapStream
> >>>>>>(www.snapstream.com).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Alright, how off am I in my assumptions?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks in advance,
> >>>>>>~Chris
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>

 

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Will Dormann wrote:
> Chris Martin wrote:
>
>> To be honest, I hadn't really thought about writing to a NAS unit.
>
>
> The main reason I do it that way is because my frontend system is a
> small form factor unit (Asus Pundit). There's only room for one hard
> drive. For a single stream, the 100Mbit ethernet is fine. If I ever
> decided to go for multiple tuners, I'd most likely need to go for
> Gigabit ethernet. (or a dedicated MythTV backend server with internal
> hard drives)

Now that I think about it, 100Mbit should be OK for multiple streams
too. I got my bits and bytes mixed up. My recordings are 3-5Mb/sec,
not MB.


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T Shadow wrote:

> "David Maynard" <dNOTmayn@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:10vraedr9r9e61d@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>JAD wrote:
>>
>>
>>>the all in wonder has a 'tuner' input and a 'audio/video RCA' input
>>>also. you can switch between these inputs from within the software.
>>>while watching TV you can be recording a different station on the
>>>computer.
>>
>>You can switch but both can't operate at the same time and you can't
>
> record
>
>>from one while watching the other.
>>
>
> You can only use one input on the card at a time but you can use an AIW card
> and a TV Wonder card(need capable version)to do PIP/POP. With a 2 tuner
> setup it is possible to capture and watch at the same time. ATIs name for it
> is Multview. Using other than ATI software may be problematic. Have not used
> it myself but Easyshare allows broadcasting to other computers.

Well, of course you can with two cards but the issue was JAD suggesting you
could do it with one because it had two inputs: tuner and RCA. It can't.