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There was no personal attack. It was straight hard logic.
For example, total power supply wattage says little useful.
Wattage (current) on each voltage is important. Again
demonstrates why the 3.5 digit multimeter (that costs far less
than anything else being purchased) is so essential. Which
voltage does not supply sufficient current? You should have
known that fact up front.
What is the current rating of that Antec power supply, what
is the current demands of that video card, and what is the
current capabilities of that new power supply? The Antec
manufacturer has a long history of being honest. What is the
credibility of that other power supply manufacturer? Does he
hide his inferior product by not providing numerical specs?
Again, the numbers are important.
Does that new power supply include a long list of numerical
specs? If not, a supply can 'forget' to include essential
parts. This 'forgetting' is common in the clone computer
business where people don't first demand numbers. Notice the
many who suffered power supply failure that also damaged other
computer components? Damage directly traceable to human
failure. They too got a supply that 'forgot' to include
essential components. Damage created by a supply that did
not provide the long list of specifications - the numbers.
In power supply problems, those numbers take but a minute to
know the answer - definitively. There is no politically
correct way to say it. Missing were the numbers. You
speculated a conclusion without knowing what was and was not
wrong. That 3.5 digit multimeter solves mysteries quickly by
providing facts. Get the numbers. For example, what are the
current demands for that video card on each voltage. An
overall 300 watt or 450 watt number says little useful.
Watts and price are mostly useless numbers that a salesman
promotes to look knowledgeable. You need current requirements
for each voltage AND you need numbers for other critical
functions that must be included in all power supplies.
Minimally acceptable supplies sell for about $65 retail. But
price does not 'prove' sufficient quality. A low price
suggests the power supply is inferior. You require a long
list of numerical specs before considering any power supply.
Cheaper supplies don't provide those numbers - for good
reason. Numbers would have quickly identified the problem AND
do identify minimally acceptable products.
I make no apologizes for being blunt honest. The alternative
is to sugar coat - lie. Sorry it makes you upset. But I do
not apologize for presently the facts bluntly. You took no
numbers. Then you wildly speculated. If a power supply was
your problem, the 3.5 digit multimeter told you definitively
in less than one minute. Don't make the same mistake again by
buying power supplies on wattage and price. First get the
numbers.
Currently you don't even know if the power supply is too
small or the video card is defective. A meter would have
provided that number in less than a minute. This is why we
first demand numbers.
"OneActor1@aol.com" wrote:
> Well, Tom, while I surely apprciate your long winded attack on my
> logic, I can tell you that there is a method to my madness and that I
> do not have the neccesary equipment to meausre the voltage output of
> the power supply that came in my case. My logic is as such: whilst the
> box that my v/c came in says that only a 300 watt power supply is
> neccesary, people on other newsgroups have reported operating problems
> (and even boot problems) with this same card when using sub-450 watt
> power supplies with insufficent voltage output. Hoping that this is the
> problem, I have invested a nominal fee into a larger power supply, so
> that I do not need to go through the tedious process of returning the
> video card to the internet vendor from which it was purchased. Should
> this new power supply not remedy the problem, it is easily returned to
> a local store and I shall then go about exchanging the video card in
> the hope that this is simply a lemon. I apologize if my logic does not
> meet your strandards, but please try to be a bit more constructive, or
> please discontinue your posting to me.
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