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A couple of months ago I noticed that the SR files were at 1.7 GB
despite a setting at less that 300 MB. I disabled SR and reset to 261
MB. Today I note that notwithstanding the setting of 261 MB, SR shows
2124 files in 5 folders using 784 MB.

Do I have a corrupt SR file or is there an additional setting that I
am not aware of.?

Thanks for any help.

Dan

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Dan,

Rather than resetting SR I would advise you to blow away the entire
archive and start over. It's possible your problem is due to some older
files having become "orphaned" and sticking around long after they should
have departed. :-)

Do this as follows:
a) Boot to DOS using a Win Me boot floppy. Do NOT choose "Minimal Boot"
from the menu when booting from a floppy but rather choose "Start computer
with (or without) CD-ROM support" otherwise the ATTRIB command will not be
available.
b) At the DOS A:\> prompt, type:

ATTRIB -H -S -R C:\_RESTORE
then
REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST

c) Remove the floppy
d) Reboot your PC
e) Delete the folder C:\OLDREST
f) Check that an automatic system restore checkpoint was created.
g) Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder:
System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the restore
slider to your preferred setting. A figure of 2-300MB is normally more
than adequate for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to
be available although increasing this to perhaps 4-500MB for a few days
during periods of large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.

It might now be a good time to test that system restore is working
correctly. You can do this by performing the following test.
a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.
b) Create a manual checkpoint
Could you create a checkpoint?
c) Delete the shortcut
d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created.
Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?
e) Reboot your PC
Was the checkpoint retained?

Hopefully this will fix the problem but if not I'll look out for messages
from you in a week or so. <g>
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mike.maltby@gmail.com


Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:

> A couple of months ago I noticed that the SR files were at 1.7 GB
> despite a setting at less that 300 MB. I disabled SR and reset to 261
> MB. Today I note that notwithstanding the setting of 261 MB, SR shows
> 2124 files in 5 folders using 784 MB.
>
> Do I have a corrupt SR file or is there an additional setting that I
> am not aware of.?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Dan

Reply to Anonymous

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Thanks for the quick response Mike. Because your instructions were so
detailed, you won't have to wait a week to find out that the problem
has indeed been solved <VBG>.
The only scary part was the popup saying C:\OLDREST was too big to
delete to Recycled Bin...I felt somewhat vulnerable until a new
restore point was created. I subsequently tested the system restore
per your instructions and all is well. However I did get an error
message when closing SYSTEM INFORMATION. "Helpctr has caused an error
in kernel32.dll" This may very well have been there before although I
hadn't noticed. In any event, I'll research it and see if it's
anything serious. In the meantime, thanks again for your expert
advice.

Dan


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:eWLy$WqaFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Dan,
>
> Rather than resetting SR I would advise you to blow away the entire
> archive and start over. It's possible your problem is due to some
older
> files having become "orphaned" and sticking around long after they
should
> have departed. :-)
>
> Do this as follows:
> a) Boot to DOS using a Win Me boot floppy. Do NOT choose "Minimal
Boot"
> from the menu when booting from a floppy but rather choose "Start
computer
> with (or without) CD-ROM support" otherwise the ATTRIB command will
not be
> available.
> b) At the DOS A:\> prompt, type:
>
> ATTRIB -H -S -R C:\_RESTORE
> then
> REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST
>
> c) Remove the floppy
> d) Reboot your PC
> e) Delete the folder C:\OLDREST
> f) Check that an automatic system restore checkpoint was created.
> g) Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder:
> System | Performance | File System | Hard Disk and adjust the
restore
> slider to your preferred setting. A figure of 2-300MB is normally
more
> than adequate for day to day use allowing perhaps a week of
checkpoints to
> be available although increasing this to perhaps 4-500MB for a few
days
> during periods of large installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.
>
> It might now be a good time to test that system restore is working
> correctly. You can do this by performing the following test.
> a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.
> b) Create a manual checkpoint
> Could you create a checkpoint?
> c) Delete the shortcut
> d) Restore your PC to the checkpoint you created.
> Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?
> e) Reboot your PC
> Was the checkpoint retained?
>
> Hopefully this will fix the problem but if not I'll look out for
messages
> from you in a week or so. <g>
> --
> Mike Maltby MS-MVP
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:
>
> > A couple of months ago I noticed that the SR files were at 1.7 GB
> > despite a setting at less that 300 MB. I disabled SR and reset to
261
> > MB. Today I note that notwithstanding the setting of 261 MB, SR
shows
> > 2124 files in 5 folders using 784 MB.
> >
> > Do I have a corrupt SR file or is there an additional setting that
I
> > am not aware of.?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Dan
>

Reply to Anonymous

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Dan,

Thanks for the feedback.

My comment about waiting a week or so was not so much because I was
worried about your following the steps I listed but instead to allow the
archive time to fill up and FIFO kick in to keep the size of the archive
within the limits you have set.

Cheers,
--
Mike


Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the quick response Mike. Because your instructions were so
> detailed, you won't have to wait a week to find out that the problem
> has indeed been solved <VBG>.
> The only scary part was the popup saying C:\OLDREST was too big to
> delete to Recycled Bin...I felt somewhat vulnerable until a new
> restore point was created. I subsequently tested the system restore
> per your instructions and all is well. However I did get an error
> message when closing SYSTEM INFORMATION. "Helpctr has caused an error
> in kernel32.dll" This may very well have been there before although I
> hadn't noticed. In any event, I'll research it and see if it's
> anything serious. In the meantime, thanks again for your expert
> advice.

Reply to Anonymous

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Thanks for the clarification, Mike. I'll check it over the next week
or so and if a problem resurfaces, I shall be back.

Dan

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:O1dw%23vtaFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Dan,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> My comment about waiting a week or so was not so much because I was
> worried about your following the steps I listed but instead to allow
the
> archive time to fill up and FIFO kick in to keep the size of the
archive
> within the limits you have set.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Mike
>
>
> Dapper Dan <dapperdan@home.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the quick response Mike. Because your instructions were
so
> > detailed, you won't have to wait a week to find out that the
problem
> > has indeed been solved <VBG>.
> > The only scary part was the popup saying C:\OLDREST was too big to
> > delete to Recycled Bin...I felt somewhat vulnerable until a new
> > restore point was created. I subsequently tested the system
restore
> > per your instructions and all is well. However I did get an error
> > message when closing SYSTEM INFORMATION. "Helpctr has caused an
error
> > in kernel32.dll" This may very well have been there before
although I
> > hadn't noticed. In any event, I'll research it and see if it's
> > anything serious. In the meantime, thanks again for your expert
> > advice.
>

Reply to Anonymous

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

 

Dan:

How does one expose all the detailed information about System Restore, which
you so delightfully describe?

Harry.


"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
news:uQ1L3fpaFHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> A couple of months ago I noticed that the SR files were at 1.7 GB
> despite a setting at less that 300 MB. I disabled SR and reset to 261
> MB. Today I note that notwithstanding the setting of 261 MB, SR shows
> 2124 files in 5 folders using 784 MB.
>
> Do I have a corrupt SR file or is there an additional setting that I
> am not aware of.?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Dan
>

Reply to Anonymous

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

 

By configuring Windows Explorer appropriately. I have probably posted
details of how to do this a thousand times in this newsgroup alone since
Win Me was released. Start with Tools | Folder Options | view.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP
mike.maltby@gmail.com


webster72n <hbethke@copper.net> wrote:

> Dan:
>
> How does one expose all the detailed information about System
> Restore, which you so delightfully describe?

Reply to Anonymous

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I use Diskeeper Lite to defrag and it indicates the amount of free
space available. I noticed that free space had dropped from a little
over 60% to the mid 30%. Knowing that we hadn't installed nor
downloaded anything substantial recently, I deducted that something
had gone awry. I recalled general responses from both Mike & Noel
regarding System Restore problems and thought that should be the first
place to check. The rest is history.
As to how to check it, per Mike's response, Windows Explorer (rc
START/OPEN) then Tools/Folder Options/View and put a checkmark in
"show all files". Then find your way to the C: drive and look for
System Restore. Right click and select PROPERTIES. It will provide the
details.

Good Luck

"webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
news:ON4NuTgbFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
> Dan:
>
> How does one expose all the detailed information about System
Restore, which
> you so delightfully describe?
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> news:uQ1L3fpaFHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > A couple of months ago I noticed that the SR files were at 1.7 GB
> > despite a setting at less that 300 MB. I disabled SR and reset to
261
> > MB. Today I note that notwithstanding the setting of 261 MB, SR
shows
> > 2124 files in 5 folders using 784 MB.
> >
> > Do I have a corrupt SR file or is there an additional setting that
I
> > am not aware of.?
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Dan
> >
>
>

Reply to Anonymous

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Dan:

I am familiar with how to get there, but completely missed the right click,
in order to expose properties.
Everything checked out allright.
Thank you for your kindness.

Harry.


"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
news:ugkMRAhbFHA.3196@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> I use Diskeeper Lite to defrag and it indicates the amount of free
> space available. I noticed that free space had dropped from a little
> over 60% to the mid 30%. Knowing that we hadn't installed nor
> downloaded anything substantial recently, I deducted that something
> had gone awry. I recalled general responses from both Mike & Noel
> regarding System Restore problems and thought that should be the first
> place to check. The rest is history.
> As to how to check it, per Mike's response, Windows Explorer (rc
> START/OPEN) then Tools/Folder Options/View and put a checkmark in
> "show all files". Then find your way to the C: drive and look for
> System Restore. Right click and select PROPERTIES. It will provide the
> details.
>
> Good Luck
>
> "webster72n" <hbethke@copper.net> wrote in message
> news:ON4NuTgbFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >
> > Dan:
> >
> > How does one expose all the detailed information about System
> Restore, which
> > you so delightfully describe?
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:uQ1L3fpaFHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > A couple of months ago I noticed that the SR files were at 1.7 GB
> > > despite a setting at less that 300 MB. I disabled SR and reset to
> 261
> > > MB. Today I note that notwithstanding the setting of 261 MB, SR
> shows
> > > 2124 files in 5 folders using 784 MB.
> > >
> > > Do I have a corrupt SR file or is there an additional setting that
> I
> > > am not aware of.?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> >
> >
>

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