floppy disc trouble

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hi there,
i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or old...this
message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the disc that you
inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok to continue...after 1
min. same message comes up. same problem came up about 8 mos. ago and i
forgot about fixing it....bob
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  1. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    You may have a bad floppy drive

    "bob94030" wrote:

    > hi there,
    > i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or old...this
    > message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the disc that you
    > inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok to continue...after 1
    > min. same message comes up. same problem came up about 8 mos. ago and i
    > forgot about fixing it....bob
  2. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?


    Rick

    bob94030 wrote:
    > hi there,
    > i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or old...this
    > message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the disc that you
    > inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok to continue...after 1
    > min. same message comes up. same problem came up about 8 mos. ago and i
    > forgot about fixing it....bob
  3. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    Chances are that your floppy disk drive is worn/dirty (clogged with dust).
    For the cost of replacement versus repairing/cleaning it = no contest.

    Check-out your local PC store/supplier for a replacement.

    Mart


    "bob94030" <bob94030@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:7AA42B4F-6A0A-4CAB-9027-A84569532498@microsoft.com...
    > hi there,
    > i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or old...this
    > message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the disc that you
    > inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok to
    > continue...after 1
    > min. same message comes up. same problem came up about 8 mos. ago and i
    > forgot about fixing it....bob
  4. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    99% of floppies come pre-formatted nowadays, Rick

    --
    Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

    Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

    http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

    Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

    "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:uRqeG2ucFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?
    >
    >
    > Rick
    >
    > bob94030 wrote:
    >> hi there,
    >> i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or old...this
    >> message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the disc that you
    >> inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok to
    >> continue...after 1 min. same message comes up. same problem came up about
    >> 8 mos. ago and i forgot about fixing it....bob
  5. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    hmmm.....from noel not saying anthing about my problem am i to assume that
    the problem IS a dirty or bad disc drive and NOT something else ?....thanks
    much...bob

    "Noel Paton" wrote:

    > 99% of floppies come pre-formatted nowadays, Rick
    >
    > --
    > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
    >
    > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
    >
    > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
    >
    > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
    >
    > "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:uRqeG2ucFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > > Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?
    > >
    > >
    > > Rick
    > >
    > > bob94030 wrote:
    > >> hi there,
    > >> i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or old...this
    > >> message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the disc that you
    > >> inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok to
    > >> continue...after 1 min. same message comes up. same problem came up about
    > >> 8 mos. ago and i forgot about fixing it....bob
    >
    >
    >
  6. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    Replacing the drive would be my first step in troubleshooting any problems
    with floppies. Like Mart said, the price to replace a drive is far cheeper
    than tryign to spend a ton of time cleaning or repairing it.

    Now, if you can use the drive successfully for normal data, you may have
    more of a problem, but if you have even intermitten trouble writing/reading
    with the drive, the best thing to do is to replace it.

    And as a side note, if you are going to go out and buy one from a store,
    please don't go to Wal*Mart and get it. Go to one of your local computer
    shops. If you are nice enough, they may even install it for you for the price
    that Wal*Mart wants for it. Don't forget to take your computer with you
    though.

    "bob94030" wrote:

    > hmmm.....from noel not saying anthing about my problem am i to assume that
    > the problem IS a dirty or bad disc drive and NOT something else ?....thanks
    > much...bob
    >
    > "Noel Paton" wrote:
    >
    > > 99% of floppies come pre-formatted nowadays, Rick
    > >
    > > --
    > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
    > >
    > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
    > >
    > > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
    > >
    > > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
    > >
    > > "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > > news:uRqeG2ucFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > > > Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Rick
    > > >
    > > > bob94030 wrote:
    > > >> hi there,
    > > >> i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or old...this
    > > >> message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the disc that you
    > > >> inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok to
    > > >> continue...after 1 min. same message comes up. same problem came up about
    > > >> 8 mos. ago and i forgot about fixing it....bob
    > >
    > >
    > >
  7. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    Begin by cleaning your floppy drive using the special cleaning disk to do
    so. $US 5.00.
    Also use compressed gas to blow out all the dust bunnies, first.
    If it still fails, try a new floppy cable, followed by a new drive. Ca. $US
    10-20, at many outlets.
    --
    Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
    Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
    In Memorium: Alex Nichol
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/nichol.mspx
    Your cooperation is very appreciated.
    ------
    "bob94030" <bob94030@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:A19C18C8-2503-4191-B2A0-FB4556369A26@microsoft.com...
    > hmmm.....from noel not saying anthing about my problem am i to assume that
    > the problem IS a dirty or bad disc drive and NOT something else
    ?....thanks
    > much...bob
    >
    > "Noel Paton" wrote:
    >
    > > 99% of floppies come pre-formatted nowadays, Rick
    > >
    > > --
    > > Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
    > >
    > > Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    > > http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
    > >
    > > http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
    > >
    > > Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
    NG's
    > >
    > > "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > > news:uRqeG2ucFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    > > > Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Rick
    > > >
    > > > bob94030 wrote:
    > > >> hi there,
    > > >> i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or
    old...this
    > > >> message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the disc that
    you
    > > >> inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok to
    > > >> continue...after 1 min. same message comes up. same problem came up
    about
    > > >> 8 mos. ago and i forgot about fixing it....bob
    > >
  8. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    does sound like a bum floppy drive or cable or something (having just
    read the part where you mention "new or old..."(diskettes)).

    Check in Device Manager (ControlPanel/System/DeviceManager) to see if
    you have any exclamation or question marks next to the floppy drive.

    Also in the System BIOS to make sure floppy-drive is enabled and set to
    1.44 (or 2.88 if you have one).


    Rick


    bob94030 wrote:
    > hmmm.....from noel not saying anthing about my problem am i to assume that
    > the problem IS a dirty or bad disc drive and NOT something else ?....thanks
    > much...bob
    >
    > "Noel Paton" wrote:
    >
    >
    >>99% of floppies come pre-formatted nowadays, Rick
    >>
    >>--
    >>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
    >>
    >>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    >>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
    >>
    >>http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
    >>
    >>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
    >>
    >>"Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>news:uRqeG2ucFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >>>Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>Rick
    >>>
    >>>bob94030 wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>hi there,
    >>>> i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or old...this
    >>>>message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the disc that you
    >>>>inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok to
    >>>>continue...after 1 min. same message comes up. same problem came up about
    >>>>8 mos. ago and i forgot about fixing it....bob
    >>
    >>
    >>
  9. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    ?

    How is lugging your computer to a computer store, purchasing a new
    floppy drive and having them install it any easier than buying a FD
    cleaning kit (considerably less bulky).


    Rick

    Anyways if the industry wanted to keep FD drives around, they could at
    least make it IDE and onboard cache and bundle it with all those "media
    reader" things. And while we're on the subject, having the optical disk
    as B: makes alot more sense than "D: on a good day, take a guess on a
    bad day".

    /pauserant


    Raymond Campbell wrote:
    > Replacing the drive would be my first step in troubleshooting any problems
    > with floppies. Like Mart said, the price to replace a drive is far cheeper
    > than tryign to spend a ton of time cleaning or repairing it.
    >
    > Now, if you can use the drive successfully for normal data, you may have
    > more of a problem, but if you have even intermitten trouble writing/reading
    > with the drive, the best thing to do is to replace it.
    >
    > And as a side note, if you are going to go out and buy one from a store,
    > please don't go to Wal*Mart and get it. Go to one of your local computer
    > shops. If you are nice enough, they may even install it for you for the price
    > that Wal*Mart wants for it. Don't forget to take your computer with you
    > though.
    >
    > "bob94030" wrote:
    >
    >
    >>hmmm.....from noel not saying anthing about my problem am i to assume that
    >>the problem IS a dirty or bad disc drive and NOT something else ?....thanks
    >>much...bob
    >>
    >>"Noel Paton" wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>99% of floppies come pre-formatted nowadays, Rick
    >>>
    >>>--
    >>>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
    >>>
    >>>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    >>>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
    >>>
    >>>http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
    >>>
    >>>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
    >>>
    >>>"Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>>news:uRqeG2ucFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>>
    >>>>Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>Rick
    >>>>
    >>>>bob94030 wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>hi there,
    >>>>> i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or old...this
    >>>>>message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the disc that you
    >>>>>inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok to
    >>>>>continue...after 1 min. same message comes up. same problem came up about
    >>>>>8 mos. ago and i forgot about fixing it....bob
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
  10. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    My two assumptions here Rick :-
    1) that the OP is quite capable of performing some simple DIY (There are
    plenty of instructions on how to do it with the aid of Google <g>)
    2) that if it requires more than just the use of the 'cleaning kit', then
    its back to your plan (a) "lugging the computer to a computer store,
    purchasing a new floppy drive and having them install it"

    And, as you've got to go to the computer store to buy a cleaning kit, you
    may as well 'lug the computer' with you and do the job properly. Plus, the
    cost of a cleaning kit is not very much less than the cost of a brand new
    floppy drive.

    BTW - I like your rant. I don't necessarily agree with it. But I like it. In
    fact many 'new' PC's (with XP) no longer come with a floppy drive. - Just as
    well you can buy USB floppy Drives, though <g>

    Mart


    "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:eVb$9$1cFHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > ?
    >
    > How is lugging your computer to a computer store, purchasing a new floppy
    > drive and having them install it any easier than buying a FD cleaning kit
    > (considerably less bulky).
    >
    >
    > Rick
    >
    > Anyways if the industry wanted to keep FD drives around, they could at
    > least make it IDE and onboard cache and bundle it with all those "media
    > reader" things. And while we're on the subject, having the optical disk
    > as B: makes alot more sense than "D: on a good day, take a guess on a bad
    > day".
    >
    > /pauserant
    >
    >
    > Raymond Campbell wrote:
    >> Replacing the drive would be my first step in troubleshooting any
    >> problems with floppies. Like Mart said, the price to replace a drive is
    >> far cheeper than tryign to spend a ton of time cleaning or repairing it.
    >>
    >> Now, if you can use the drive successfully for normal data, you may have
    >> more of a problem, but if you have even intermitten trouble
    >> writing/reading with the drive, the best thing to do is to replace it.
    >>
    >> And as a side note, if you are going to go out and buy one from a store,
    >> please don't go to Wal*Mart and get it. Go to one of your local computer
    >> shops. If you are nice enough, they may even install it for you for the
    >> price that Wal*Mart wants for it. Don't forget to take your computer with
    >> you though.
    >>
    >> "bob94030" wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>hmmm.....from noel not saying anthing about my problem am i to assume
    >>>that the problem IS a dirty or bad disc drive and NOT something else
    >>>?....thanks much...bob
    >>>
    >>>"Noel Paton" wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>99% of floppies come pre-formatted nowadays, Rick
    >>>>
    >>>>--
    >>>>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
    >>>>
    >>>>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    >>>>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
    >>>>
    >>>>http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
    >>>>
    >>>>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
    >>>>NG's
    >>>>
    >>>>"Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>>>news:uRqeG2ucFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>>>
    >>>>>Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Rick
    >>>>>
    >>>>>bob94030 wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>hi there,
    >>>>>> i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or
    >>>>>> old...this message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the
    >>>>>> disc that you inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok
    >>>>>> to continue...after 1 min. same message comes up. same problem came
    >>>>>> up about 8 mos. ago and i forgot about fixing it....bob
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
  11. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    Mart wrote:
    > My two assumptions here Rick :-
    > 1) that the OP is quite capable of performing some simple DIY (There are
    > plenty of instructions on how to do it with the aid of Google <g>)
    > 2) that if it requires more than just the use of the 'cleaning kit', then
    > its back to your plan (a) "lugging the computer to a computer store,
    > purchasing a new floppy drive and having them install it"
    >
    > And, as you've got to go to the computer store to buy a cleaning kit, you
    > may as well 'lug the computer' with you and do the job properly. Plus, the
    > cost of a cleaning kit is not very much less than the cost of a brand new
    > floppy drive.

    True, but unnecessarily wasteful; moreso if it turns out to be the
    cable, power-supply (forgot that one) or a BIOS hiccup.

    >
    > BTW - I like your rant. I don't necessarily agree with it. But I like it. In
    > fact many 'new' PC's (with XP) no longer come with a floppy drive. - Just as
    > well you can buy USB floppy Drives, though <g>

    Can you boot from them easily ? I imagine you're supposed to be able to.


    Rick


    >
    > Mart
    >
    >
    > "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:eVb$9$1cFHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >
    >>?
    >>
    >>How is lugging your computer to a computer store, purchasing a new floppy
    >>drive and having them install it any easier than buying a FD cleaning kit
    >>(considerably less bulky).
    >>
    >>
    >>Rick
    >>
    >>Anyways if the industry wanted to keep FD drives around, they could at
    >>least make it IDE and onboard cache and bundle it with all those "media
    >>reader" things. And while we're on the subject, having the optical disk
    >>as B: makes alot more sense than "D: on a good day, take a guess on a bad
    >>day".
    >>
    >>/pauserant
    >>
    >>
    >>Raymond Campbell wrote:
    >>
    >>>Replacing the drive would be my first step in troubleshooting any
    >>>problems with floppies. Like Mart said, the price to replace a drive is
    >>>far cheeper than tryign to spend a ton of time cleaning or repairing it.
    >>>
    >>>Now, if you can use the drive successfully for normal data, you may have
    >>>more of a problem, but if you have even intermitten trouble
    >>>writing/reading with the drive, the best thing to do is to replace it.
    >>>
    >>>And as a side note, if you are going to go out and buy one from a store,
    >>>please don't go to Wal*Mart and get it. Go to one of your local computer
    >>>shops. If you are nice enough, they may even install it for you for the
    >>>price that Wal*Mart wants for it. Don't forget to take your computer with
    >>>you though.
    >>>
    >>>"bob94030" wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>hmmm.....from noel not saying anthing about my problem am i to assume
    >>>>that the problem IS a dirty or bad disc drive and NOT something else
    >>>>?....thanks much...bob
    >>>>
    >>>>"Noel Paton" wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>99% of floppies come pre-formatted nowadays, Rick
    >>>>>
    >>>>>--
    >>>>>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    >>>>>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
    >>>>>
    >>>>>http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
    >>>>>NG's
    >>>>>
    >>>>>"Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>news:uRqeG2ucFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Rick
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>bob94030 wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>hi there,
    >>>>>>> i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or
    >>>>>>>old...this message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the
    >>>>>>>disc that you inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click ok
    >>>>>>>to continue...after 1 min. same message comes up. same problem came
    >>>>>>>up about 8 mos. ago and i forgot about fixing it....bob
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >
    >
  12. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    Rick wrote :-
    > True, but unnecessarily wasteful; moreso if it turns out to be the cable,
    > power-supply (forgot that one) or a BIOS hiccup.

    Mmm.. unlikely, from the reported symptoms but... maybe the OP would like
    to do more testing in DOS etc., - if only he had a working WinMe boot floppy
    <g> Just seems the quickest, easiest solution is to substitute with an
    inexpensive (brand new) replacement.

    > Can you boot from them (USB floppy drive) easily ? I imagine you're
    > supposed to be able to.

    Yes! It just sets itself up (PnP's) as an A: drive.

    Mart


    "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:eEEYTU7cFHA.1276@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    > Mart wrote:
    >> My two assumptions here Rick :-
    >> 1) that the OP is quite capable of performing some simple DIY (There are
    >> plenty of instructions on how to do it with the aid of Google <g>)
    >> 2) that if it requires more than just the use of the 'cleaning kit', then
    >> its back to your plan (a) "lugging the computer to a computer store,
    >> purchasing a new floppy drive and having them install it"
    >>
    >> And, as you've got to go to the computer store to buy a cleaning kit, you
    >> may as well 'lug the computer' with you and do the job properly. Plus,
    >> the cost of a cleaning kit is not very much less than the cost of a brand
    >> new floppy drive.
    >
    > True, but unnecessarily wasteful; moreso if it turns out to be the cable,
    > power-supply (forgot that one) or a BIOS hiccup.
    >
    >>
    >> BTW - I like your rant. I don't necessarily agree with it. But I like it.
    >> In fact many 'new' PC's (with XP) no longer come with a floppy drive. -
    >> Just as well you can buy USB floppy Drives, though <g>
    >
    > Can you boot from them easily ? I imagine you're supposed to be able to.
    >
    >
    >
    > Rick
    >
    >
    >
    >>
    >> Mart
    >>
    >>
    >> "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:eVb$9$1cFHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >>>?
    >>>
    >>>How is lugging your computer to a computer store, purchasing a new floppy
    >>>drive and having them install it any easier than buying a FD cleaning kit
    >>>(considerably less bulky).
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>Rick
    >>>
    >>>Anyways if the industry wanted to keep FD drives around, they could at
    >>>least make it IDE and onboard cache and bundle it with all those "media
    >>>reader" things. And while we're on the subject, having the optical disk
    >>>as B: makes alot more sense than "D: on a good day, take a guess on a bad
    >>>day".
    >>>
    >>>/pauserant
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>Raymond Campbell wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Replacing the drive would be my first step in troubleshooting any
    >>>>problems with floppies. Like Mart said, the price to replace a drive is
    >>>>far cheeper than tryign to spend a ton of time cleaning or repairing it.
    >>>>
    >>>>Now, if you can use the drive successfully for normal data, you may have
    >>>>more of a problem, but if you have even intermitten trouble
    >>>>writing/reading with the drive, the best thing to do is to replace it.
    >>>>
    >>>>And as a side note, if you are going to go out and buy one from a store,
    >>>>please don't go to Wal*Mart and get it. Go to one of your local computer
    >>>>shops. If you are nice enough, they may even install it for you for the
    >>>>price that Wal*Mart wants for it. Don't forget to take your computer
    >>>>with you though.
    >>>>
    >>>>"bob94030" wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>hmmm.....from noel not saying anthing about my problem am i to assume
    >>>>>that the problem IS a dirty or bad disc drive and NOT something else
    >>>>>?....thanks much...bob
    >>>>>
    >>>>>"Noel Paton" wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>99% of floppies come pre-formatted nowadays, Rick
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>--
    >>>>>>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    >>>>>>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
    >>>>>>NG's
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>"Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>news:uRqeG2ucFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Rick
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>bob94030 wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>hi there,
    >>>>>>>> i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or
    >>>>>>>> old...this message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the
    >>>>>>>> disc that you inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click
    >>>>>>>> ok to continue...after 1 min. same message comes up. same problem
    >>>>>>>> came up about 8 mos. ago and i forgot about fixing it....bob
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>
  13. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    Mart wrote:
    > Rick wrote :-
    >
    >>True, but unnecessarily wasteful; moreso if it turns out to be the cable,
    >>power-supply (forgot that one) or a BIOS hiccup.
    >
    >
    > Mmm.. unlikely, from the reported symptoms but... maybe the OP would like
    > to do more testing in DOS etc., - if only he had a working WinMe boot floppy
    > <g> Just seems the quickest, easiest solution is to substitute with an
    > inexpensive (brand new) replacement.

    <lol> Unless It Is Not A Floppy Drive Problem; Then He Has Two Drives
    That Don't Work.

    >
    >
    >>Can you boot from them (USB floppy drive) easily ? I imagine you're
    >>supposed to be able to.
    >
    >
    > Yes! It just sets itself up (PnP's) as an A: drive.

    nifty... I'll put it on the list for the New System.


    Rick

    >
    > Mart
    >
    >
    > "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:eEEYTU7cFHA.1276@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    >
    >>Mart wrote:
    >>
    >>>My two assumptions here Rick :-
    >>>1) that the OP is quite capable of performing some simple DIY (There are
    >>>plenty of instructions on how to do it with the aid of Google <g>)
    >>>2) that if it requires more than just the use of the 'cleaning kit', then
    >>>its back to your plan (a) "lugging the computer to a computer store,
    >>>purchasing a new floppy drive and having them install it"
    >>>
    >>>And, as you've got to go to the computer store to buy a cleaning kit, you
    >>>may as well 'lug the computer' with you and do the job properly. Plus,
    >>>the cost of a cleaning kit is not very much less than the cost of a brand
    >>>new floppy drive.
    >>
    >>True, but unnecessarily wasteful; moreso if it turns out to be the cable,
    >>power-supply (forgot that one) or a BIOS hiccup.
    >>
    >>
    >>>BTW - I like your rant. I don't necessarily agree with it. But I like it.
    >>>In fact many 'new' PC's (with XP) no longer come with a floppy drive. -
    >>>Just as well you can buy USB floppy Drives, though <g>
    >>
    >>Can you boot from them easily ? I imagine you're supposed to be able to.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>Rick
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>Mart
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>"Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>>news:eVb$9$1cFHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>?
    >>>>
    >>>>How is lugging your computer to a computer store, purchasing a new floppy
    >>>>drive and having them install it any easier than buying a FD cleaning kit
    >>>>(considerably less bulky).
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>Rick
    >>>>
    >>>>Anyways if the industry wanted to keep FD drives around, they could at
    >>>>least make it IDE and onboard cache and bundle it with all those "media
    >>>>reader" things. And while we're on the subject, having the optical disk
    >>>>as B: makes alot more sense than "D: on a good day, take a guess on a bad
    >>>>day".
    >>>>
    >>>>/pauserant
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>Raymond Campbell wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>Replacing the drive would be my first step in troubleshooting any
    >>>>>problems with floppies. Like Mart said, the price to replace a drive is
    >>>>>far cheeper than tryign to spend a ton of time cleaning or repairing it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Now, if you can use the drive successfully for normal data, you may have
    >>>>>more of a problem, but if you have even intermitten trouble
    >>>>>writing/reading with the drive, the best thing to do is to replace it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>And as a side note, if you are going to go out and buy one from a store,
    >>>>>please don't go to Wal*Mart and get it. Go to one of your local computer
    >>>>>shops. If you are nice enough, they may even install it for you for the
    >>>>>price that Wal*Mart wants for it. Don't forget to take your computer
    >>>>>with you though.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>"bob94030" wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>hmmm.....from noel not saying anthing about my problem am i to assume
    >>>>>>that the problem IS a dirty or bad disc drive and NOT something else
    >>>>>>?....thanks much...bob
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>"Noel Paton" wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>99% of floppies come pre-formatted nowadays, Rick
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>--
    >>>>>>>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    >>>>>>>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
    >>>>>>>NG's
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>"Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>news:uRqeG2ucFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Rick
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>bob94030 wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>hi there,
    >>>>>>>>> i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or
    >>>>>>>>>old...this message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize the
    >>>>>>>>>disc that you inserted...error...disc sector was not found...click
    >>>>>>>>>ok to continue...after 1 min. same message comes up. same problem
    >>>>>>>>>came up about 8 mos. ago and i forgot about fixing it....bob
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >
  14. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general (More info?)

    Rick wrote :-

    > <lol> Unless It Is Not A Floppy Drive Problem; Then He Has Two Drives That
    > Don't Work.

    Not to mention, a redundant "FD cleaning kit" <vbg>

    Mart


    "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:e6eEw19cFHA.3712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    > Mart wrote:
    >> Rick wrote :-
    >>
    >>>True, but unnecessarily wasteful; moreso if it turns out to be the cable,
    >>>power-supply (forgot that one) or a BIOS hiccup.
    >>
    >>
    >> Mmm.. unlikely, from the reported symptoms but... maybe the OP would
    >> like to do more testing in DOS etc., - if only he had a working WinMe
    >> boot floppy <g> Just seems the quickest, easiest solution is to
    >> substitute with an inexpensive (brand new) replacement.
    >
    > <lol> Unless It Is Not A Floppy Drive Problem; Then He Has Two Drives That
    > Don't Work.
    >
    >>
    >>
    >>>Can you boot from them (USB floppy drive) easily ? I imagine you're
    >>>supposed to be able to.
    >>
    >>
    >> Yes! It just sets itself up (PnP's) as an A: drive.
    >
    > nifty... I'll put it on the list for the New System.
    >
    >
    > Rick
    >
    >>
    >> Mart
    >>
    >>
    >> "Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:eEEYTU7cFHA.1276@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >>>Mart wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>My two assumptions here Rick :-
    >>>>1) that the OP is quite capable of performing some simple DIY (There are
    >>>>plenty of instructions on how to do it with the aid of Google <g>)
    >>>>2) that if it requires more than just the use of the 'cleaning kit',
    >>>>then its back to your plan (a) "lugging the computer to a computer
    >>>>store, purchasing a new floppy drive and having them install it"
    >>>>
    >>>>And, as you've got to go to the computer store to buy a cleaning kit,
    >>>>you may as well 'lug the computer' with you and do the job properly.
    >>>>Plus, the cost of a cleaning kit is not very much less than the cost of
    >>>>a brand new floppy drive.
    >>>
    >>>True, but unnecessarily wasteful; moreso if it turns out to be the cable,
    >>>power-supply (forgot that one) or a BIOS hiccup.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>BTW - I like your rant. I don't necessarily agree with it. But I like
    >>>>it. In fact many 'new' PC's (with XP) no longer come with a floppy
    >>>>drive. - Just as well you can buy USB floppy Drives, though <g>
    >>>
    >>>Can you boot from them easily ? I imagine you're supposed to be able to.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>Rick
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Mart
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>"Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>>>news:eVb$9$1cFHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>How is lugging your computer to a computer store, purchasing a new
    >>>>>floppy drive and having them install it any easier than buying a FD
    >>>>>cleaning kit (considerably less bulky).
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Rick
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Anyways if the industry wanted to keep FD drives around, they could at
    >>>>>least make it IDE and onboard cache and bundle it with all those "media
    >>>>>reader" things. And while we're on the subject, having the optical
    >>>>>disk as B: makes alot more sense than "D: on a good day, take a guess
    >>>>>on a bad day".
    >>>>>
    >>>>>/pauserant
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Raymond Campbell wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Replacing the drive would be my first step in troubleshooting any
    >>>>>>problems with floppies. Like Mart said, the price to replace a drive
    >>>>>>is far cheeper than tryign to spend a ton of time cleaning or
    >>>>>>repairing it.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Now, if you can use the drive successfully for normal data, you may
    >>>>>>have more of a problem, but if you have even intermitten trouble
    >>>>>>writing/reading with the drive, the best thing to do is to replace it.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>And as a side note, if you are going to go out and buy one from a
    >>>>>>store, please don't go to Wal*Mart and get it. Go to one of your local
    >>>>>>computer shops. If you are nice enough, they may even install it for
    >>>>>>you for the price that Wal*Mart wants for it. Don't forget to take
    >>>>>>your computer with you though.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>"bob94030" wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>hmmm.....from noel not saying anthing about my problem am i to assume
    >>>>>>>that the problem IS a dirty or bad disc drive and NOT something else
    >>>>>>>?....thanks much...bob
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>"Noel Paton" wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>99% of floppies come pre-formatted nowadays, Rick
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>--
    >>>>>>>>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    >>>>>>>>http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
    >>>>>>>>NG's
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>"Rick T" <plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>news:uRqeG2ucFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>Don't you have to Format the diskette first ?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>Rick
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>bob94030 wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>hi there,
    >>>>>>>>>> i can't make a new rescue floppy disc....using new ones or
    >>>>>>>>>> old...this message comes up; setup cannot properly initialize
    >>>>>>>>>> the disc that you inserted...error...disc sector was not
    >>>>>>>>>> found...click ok to continue...after 1 min. same message comes
    >>>>>>>>>> up. same problem came up about 8 mos. ago and i forgot about
    >>>>>>>>>> fixing it....bob
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>
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