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March 27, 2005 6:00:06 PM

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Hello all,

I've recently had a serious HD crash using an external caddy via Firewire -
basically the disc cannot be read though the drive and partitions can be
seen by XP and I'm able to format the drive (if I wanted to). The drive is a
Maxtor 120GB and is over 2 years old - unfortunately it also
contained/contains my holiday photos and mp3 collection (it also failed the
night before I was finally going to get round to backing the drive up onto
DVD's!! :o (

Anyhow I put another drive in the enclosure (brand new Seagate 120 GB) but
just used it the internet cache this time to see if the above problem was
repeated - it was last night but this time I formatted the drive and now
using it (via the USB connection).

Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
*better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?

TIA

BillL

Sys spec/config
AMD A64 3200+ (Winchester)
Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI (F6 BIOS)
1 GB RAM (2 x 512 MB Crucial Ballistix DIMM's) PC4000
Leadtek PX6600GT 'Extreme'
External USB Creative NX2 Sound
Coolermaster 'Wavemaster'Case
OCZ 'Powerstream' 520Watt PSU

DISCS
Maxtor DiamondMax 250 GB SATA150 (On nforce4 controller)

Seagate 120 GB PATA in external Firewire/USB 'ICY BOX' enclosure

Secondary IDE Channel
Samsung 16x DVD
NEC 3500A DVDRW

OtherHW
HP 940C USB Printer
Epson R300 Photo
Cannon LiDE30 USB Scanner
Hauppauge WinTV PCI

OS: WinXP Pro SP2
March 27, 2005 6:00:07 PM

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"BillL" <billc1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:G%y1e.6342$Ab.1000@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Hello all,
>
> I've recently had a serious HD crash using an external caddy via
> Firewire - basically the disc cannot be read though the drive and
> partitions can be seen by XP and I'm able to format the drive (if I wanted
> to). The drive is a Maxtor 120GB and is over 2 years old - unfortunately
> it also contained/contains my holiday photos and mp3 collection (it also
> failed the night before I was finally going to get round to backing the
> drive up onto DVD's!! :o (
>
> Anyhow I put another drive in the enclosure (brand new Seagate 120 GB) but
> just used it the internet cache this time to see if the above problem was
> repeated - it was last night but this time I formatted the drive and now
> using it (via the USB connection).
>
> Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
> *better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
>
> TIA
>
> BillL

> DISCS
> Maxtor DiamondMax 250 GB SATA150 (On nforce4 controller)
>
> Seagate 120 GB PATA in external Firewire/USB 'ICY BOX' enclosure

> OS: WinXP Pro SP2

And then he adds...
I'm not sure but as the brand new drive had the same problem and is now
working via USB (thus far?) I would think its data corruption. I'm going to
DL a demo of a some data recovery software and see I can pull anything of
the Maxtor drive. Also niether HDD presented any obvious signs of imminent
failure (e.g. they wern't producing any strange noises or getting very
warm).

OTOH it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that both the Maxtor
and Seagate could failures could be hardware related.

BillL


Bill:
While it's not "beyond the realms of possibility" that both drives failed
more-or-less simultaneously, needless to say, it's *highly* unlikely.

Assuming there's no problem with the connection between your USB/Firewire
external hard drive enclosure and your computer's port(s), it certainly
sounds like a defective enclosure, no?

I take it you installed the (apparently) defective drive internally, but you
couldn't access its contents - is that so? If you haven't done that, it
certainly would be advisable to do so. But assuming you have - was the drive
recognized in My Computer/Windows Explorer? What does it show, if anything,
in XP's Disk Management utility?

I haven't seen that Icy Box unit advertised here in the U.S. I take it that
unit is available in the European market. Have you tried to contact the
manuf.? I see they're apparently a German outfit -
http://www.raidsonic.de/e_index.html
(Sales@raidsonic.de). Might be useful to see what they have to say.
Anna
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
March 27, 2005 6:00:07 PM

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>Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
>*better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
>
>TIA
>
>BillL

Bad hardware in the enclosure I'm sure. Out of five USB 2.0 external
USB enclosures I just got this happen with one. Brand new drive worked
great a week or less. Got some data off with Data Unerase.
http://www.octanesoft.com/data_recovery_free_edition.ht...

Put drive on an IDE cable and it's run perfect for a month.

----------
AJ
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Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
March 27, 2005 6:00:08 PM

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"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
news:N_ydnX01Le-DStvfRVn-1g@adelphia.com...
>
> "BillL" <billc1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:G%y1e.6342$Ab.1000@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I've recently had a serious HD crash using an external caddy via
>> Firewire - basically the disc cannot be read though the drive and
>> partitions can be seen by XP and I'm able to format the drive (if I
>> wanted to). The drive is a Maxtor 120GB and is over 2 years old -
>> unfortunately it also contained/contains my holiday photos and mp3
>> collection (it also failed the night before I was finally going to get
>> round to backing the drive up onto DVD's!! :o (
>>
>> Anyhow I put another drive in the enclosure (brand new Seagate 120 GB)
>> but just used it the internet cache this time to see if the above problem
>> was repeated - it was last night but this time I formatted the drive and
>> now using it (via the USB connection).
>>
>> Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
>> *better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> BillL
>
>> DISCS
>> Maxtor DiamondMax 250 GB SATA150 (On nforce4 controller)
>>
>> Seagate 120 GB PATA in external Firewire/USB 'ICY BOX' enclosure
>
>> OS: WinXP Pro SP2
>
> And then he adds...
> I'm not sure but as the brand new drive had the same problem and is now
> working via USB (thus far?) I would think its data corruption. I'm going
> to
> DL a demo of a some data recovery software and see I can pull anything of
> the Maxtor drive. Also niether HDD presented any obvious signs of imminent
> failure (e.g. they wern't producing any strange noises or getting very
> warm).
>
> OTOH it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that both the Maxtor
> and Seagate could failures could be hardware related.
>
> BillL
>
>
> Bill:
> While it's not "beyond the realms of possibility" that both drives failed
> more-or-less simultaneously, needless to say, it's *highly* unlikely.
>
> Assuming there's no problem with the connection between your USB/Firewire
> external hard drive enclosure and your computer's port(s), it certainly
> sounds like a defective enclosure, no?
>
> I take it you installed the (apparently) defective drive internally, but
> you couldn't access its contents - is that so? If you haven't done that,
> it certainly would be advisable to do so. But assuming you have - was the
> drive recognized in My Computer/Windows Explorer? What does it show, if
> anything, in XP's Disk Management utility?
>
> I haven't seen that Icy Box unit advertised here in the U.S. I take it
> that unit is available in the European market. Have you tried to contact
> the manuf.? I see they're apparently a German outfit -
> http://www.raidsonic.de/e_index.html
> (Sales@raidsonic.de). Might be useful to see what they have to say.
> Anna
>


If I may butt in for a moment, Anna, where is this disk management utility
located? Thanks.

Ed Cregger
March 27, 2005 6:00:09 PM

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>> "BillL" <billc1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:G%y1e.6342$Ab.1000@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I've recently had a serious HD crash using an external caddy via
>>> Firewire - basically the disc cannot be read though the drive and
>>> partitions can be seen by XP and I'm able to format the drive (if I
>>> wanted to). The drive is a Maxtor 120GB and is over 2 years old -
>>> unfortunately it also contained/contains my holiday photos and mp3
>>> collection (it also failed the night before I was finally going to get
>>> round to backing the drive up onto DVD's!! :o (
>>>
>>> Anyhow I put another drive in the enclosure (brand new Seagate 120 GB)
>>> but just used it the internet cache this time to see if the above
>>> problem was repeated - it was last night but this time I formatted the
>>> drive and now using it (via the USB connection).
>>>
>>> Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
>>> *better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> BillL
>>
>>> DISCS
>>> Maxtor DiamondMax 250 GB SATA150 (On nforce4 controller)
>>>
>>> Seagate 120 GB PATA in external Firewire/USB 'ICY BOX' enclosure
>>
>>> OS: WinXP Pro SP2
>>
>> And then he adds...
>> I'm not sure but as the brand new drive had the same problem and is now
>> working via USB (thus far?) I would think its data corruption. I'm going
>> to
>> DL a demo of a some data recovery software and see I can pull anything of
>> the Maxtor drive. Also niether HDD presented any obvious signs of
>> imminent
>> failure (e.g. they wern't producing any strange noises or getting very
>> warm).
>>
>> OTOH it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that both the Maxtor
>> and Seagate could failures could be hardware related.
>>
>> BillL


> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
> news:N_ydnX01Le-DStvfRVn-1g@adelphia.com...
>> Bill:
>> While it's not "beyond the realms of possibility" that both drives failed
>> more-or-less simultaneously, needless to say, it's *highly* unlikely.
>>
>> Assuming there's no problem with the connection between your USB/Firewire
>> >> external hard drive enclosure and your computer's port(s), it
>> certainly sounds like a defective enclosure, no?
>>
>> I take it you installed the (apparently) defective drive internally, but
>> you couldn't access its contents - is that so? If you haven't done that,
>> it certainly would be advisable to do so. But assuming you have - was the
>> drive recognized in My Computer/Windows Explorer? What does it show, if
>> anything, in XP's Disk Management utility?
>>
>> I haven't seen that Icy Box unit advertised here in the U.S. I take it
>> that unit is available in the European market. Have you tried to contact
>> the manuf.? I see they're apparently a German outfit -
>> http://www.raidsonic.de/e_index.html
>> (Sales@raidsonic.de). Might be useful to see what they have to say.
>> Anna


"Ed Cregger" <amazingseismo@yahu.com (correct the spelling)> wrote in
message news:D 26m6c020c2@enews4.newsguy.com...
> If I may butt in for a moment, Anna, where is this disk management utility
> located? Thanks.
>
> Ed Cregger


Ed:
Start > right-click My Computer > Manage > Computer Management > Disk
Management.
Anna
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
March 27, 2005 6:46:35 PM

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:00:06 GMT, "BillL" <billc1@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I've recently had a serious HD crash using an external caddy via Firewire -
>basically the disc cannot be read though the drive and partitions can be
>seen by XP and I'm able to format the drive (if I wanted to). The drive is a
>Maxtor 120GB and is over 2 years old - unfortunately it also
>contained/contains my holiday photos and mp3 collection (it also failed the
>night before I was finally going to get round to backing the drive up onto
>DVD's!! :o (
>
>Anyhow I put another drive in the enclosure (brand new Seagate 120 GB) but
>just used it the internet cache this time to see if the above problem was
>repeated - it was last night but this time I formatted the drive and now
>using it (via the USB connection).
>
>Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
>*better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
>
Is it data corruption or phyiscal failure?
March 27, 2005 7:30:40 PM

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"Justin Case" <jcase@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:D ohd415c7cejeaae3n04arcvsinbboqgkl@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:00:06 GMT, "BillL" <billc1@blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I've recently had a serious HD crash using an external caddy via
>>Firewire -
>>basically the disc cannot be read though the drive and partitions can be
>>seen by XP and I'm able to format the drive (if I wanted to). The drive is
>>a
>>Maxtor 120GB and is over 2 years old - unfortunately it also
>>contained/contains my holiday photos and mp3 collection (it also failed
>>the
>>night before I was finally going to get round to backing the drive up onto
>>DVD's!! :o (
>>
>>Anyhow I put another drive in the enclosure (brand new Seagate 120 GB) but
>>just used it the internet cache this time to see if the above problem was
>>repeated - it was last night but this time I formatted the drive and now
>>using it (via the USB connection).
>>
>>Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
>>*better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
>>
> Is it data corruption or phyiscal failure?
>

I'm not sure but as the brand new drive had the same problem and is now
working via USB (thus far?) I would think its data corruption. I'm going to
DL a demo of a some data recovery software and see I can pull anything of
the Maxtor drive. Also niether HDD presented any obvious signs of imminent
failure (e.g. they wern't producing any strange noises or getting very
warm).

OTOH it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that both the Maxtor
and Seagate could failures could be hardware related.

BillL
March 27, 2005 10:39:30 PM

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"AndrewJ" <ajpk3@hotmail.comremove> wrote in message
news:iumd4197hn3d7dva4vp2entp5p3162i3tr@4ax.com...
>
>
>>Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
>>*better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>BillL
>
> Bad hardware in the enclosure I'm sure. Out of five USB 2.0 external
> USB enclosures I just got this happen with one. Brand new drive worked
> great a week or less. Got some data off with Data Unerase.
> http://www.octanesoft.com/data_recovery_free_edition.ht...
>
> Put drive on an IDE cable and it's run perfect for a month.
>
> ----------
> AJ

Thanks for all the replies.

The first thing I did was to put the drive back in the PC on the primary IDE
port - no difference as I still couldn't access the drive. I've been to the
German manufactures site (poorly translated into English) and there doesn't
appear to be any drivers/firmware available (WinXP didn't blink when I
installed the enclosure and drive).

I'll do some more research and also see how it goes with USB - could be that
the Gigabyte has problems with Firewire??

BillL
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
March 27, 2005 10:59:36 PM

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"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
news:5a6dnffKS9A6aNvfRVn-1A@adelphia.com...
>>> "BillL" <billc1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:G%y1e.6342$Ab.1000@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I've recently had a serious HD crash using an external caddy via
>>>> Firewire - basically the disc cannot be read though the drive and
>>>> partitions can be seen by XP and I'm able to format the drive (if I
>>>> wanted to). The drive is a Maxtor 120GB and is over 2 years old -
>>>> unfortunately it also contained/contains my holiday photos and mp3
>>>> collection (it also failed the night before I was finally going to get
>>>> round to backing the drive up onto DVD's!! :o (
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow I put another drive in the enclosure (brand new Seagate 120 GB)
>>>> but just used it the internet cache this time to see if the above
>>>> problem was repeated - it was last night but this time I formatted the
>>>> drive and now using it (via the USB connection).
>>>>
>>>> Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
>>>> *better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> BillL
>>>
>>>> DISCS
>>>> Maxtor DiamondMax 250 GB SATA150 (On nforce4 controller)
>>>>
>>>> Seagate 120 GB PATA in external Firewire/USB 'ICY BOX' enclosure
>>>
>>>> OS: WinXP Pro SP2
>>>
>>> And then he adds...
>>> I'm not sure but as the brand new drive had the same problem and is now
>>> working via USB (thus far?) I would think its data corruption. I'm going
>>> to
>>> DL a demo of a some data recovery software and see I can pull anything
>>> of
>>> the Maxtor drive. Also niether HDD presented any obvious signs of
>>> imminent
>>> failure (e.g. they wern't producing any strange noises or getting very
>>> warm).
>>>
>>> OTOH it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that both the
>>> Maxtor
>>> and Seagate could failures could be hardware related.
>>>
>>> BillL
>
>
>> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
>> news:N_ydnX01Le-DStvfRVn-1g@adelphia.com...
>>> Bill:
>>> While it's not "beyond the realms of possibility" that both drives
>>> failed more-or-less simultaneously, needless to say, it's *highly*
>>> unlikely.
>>>
>>> Assuming there's no problem with the connection between your
>>> USB/Firewire >> external hard drive enclosure and your computer's
>>> port(s), it certainly sounds like a defective enclosure, no?
>>>
>>> I take it you installed the (apparently) defective drive internally, but
>>> you couldn't access its contents - is that so? If you haven't done that,
>>> it certainly would be advisable to do so. But assuming you have - was
>>> the drive recognized in My Computer/Windows Explorer? What does it show,
>>> if anything, in XP's Disk Management utility?
>>>
>>> I haven't seen that Icy Box unit advertised here in the U.S. I take it
>>> that unit is available in the European market. Have you tried to contact
>>> the manuf.? I see they're apparently a German outfit -
>>> http://www.raidsonic.de/e_index.html
>>> (Sales@raidsonic.de). Might be useful to see what they have to say.
>>> Anna
>
>
> "Ed Cregger" <amazingseismo@yahu.com (correct the spelling)> wrote in
> message news:D 26m6c020c2@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> If I may butt in for a moment, Anna, where is this disk management
>> utility located? Thanks.
>>
>> Ed Cregger
>
>
> Ed:
> Start > right-click My Computer > Manage > Computer Management > Disk
> Management.
> Anna
>


Thank you very much, Anna.

Ed Cregger
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
March 28, 2005 1:00:19 AM

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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:39:30 GMT, "BillL" <billc1@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"AndrewJ" <ajpk3@hotmail.comremove> wrote in message
>news:iumd4197hn3d7dva4vp2entp5p3162i3tr@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>>Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
>>>*better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>BillL
>>
>> Bad hardware in the enclosure I'm sure. Out of five USB 2.0 external
>> USB enclosures I just got this happen with one. Brand new drive worked
>> great a week or less. Got some data off with Data Unerase.
>> http://www.octanesoft.com/data_recovery_free_edition.ht...
>>
>> Put drive on an IDE cable and it's run perfect for a month.
>>
>> ----------
>> AJ
>
>Thanks for all the replies.
>
>The first thing I did was to put the drive back in the PC on the primary IDE
>port - no difference as I still couldn't access the drive. I've been to the
>German manufactures site (poorly translated into English) and there doesn't
>appear to be any drivers/firmware available (WinXP didn't blink when I
>installed the enclosure and drive).
>
>I'll do some more research and also see how it goes with USB - could be that
>the Gigabyte has problems with Firewire??
>
>BillL
>

In my experiences with enclosures I'd suggest making sure the drive is
not running too hot as very few have a decent fan to expel the heat
build up. I've got to the point that the cover is left off a few of
mine or I don't run them long. Heat will shorten a drives life
expectancy a lot.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
March 28, 2005 5:35:20 AM

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BillL wrote:
> "Justin Case" <jcase@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:D ohd415c7cejeaae3n04arcvsinbboqgkl@4ax.com...
>
>>On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:00:06 GMT, "BillL" <billc1@blueyonder.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello all,
>>>
>>>I've recently had a serious HD crash using an external caddy via
>>>Firewire -
>>>basically the disc cannot be read though the drive and partitions can be
>>>seen by XP and I'm able to format the drive (if I wanted to). The drive is
>>>a
>>>Maxtor 120GB and is over 2 years old - unfortunately it also
>>>contained/contains my holiday photos and mp3 collection (it also failed
>>>the
>>>night before I was finally going to get round to backing the drive up onto
>>>DVD's!! :o (
>>>
>>>Anyhow I put another drive in the enclosure (brand new Seagate 120 GB) but
>>>just used it the internet cache this time to see if the above problem was
>>>repeated - it was last night but this time I formatted the drive and now
>>>using it (via the USB connection).
>>>
>>>Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
>>>*better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
>>>
>>
>>Is it data corruption or phyiscal failure?
>>
>
>
> I'm not sure but as the brand new drive had the same problem and is now
> working via USB (thus far?) I would think its data corruption. I'm going to
> DL a demo of a some data recovery software and see I can pull anything of
> the Maxtor drive.

Create a drive image before you play around. That way, at least you
still have the data in some form for further recovery trials.


> Also niether HDD presented any obvious signs of imminent
> failure (e.g. they wern't producing any strange noises or getting very
> warm).
>
> OTOH it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that both the Maxtor
> and Seagate could failures could be hardware related.
>
> BillL
>
>


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March 28, 2005 9:13:23 PM

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"Ed Cregger" <amazingseismo@yahu.com (correct the spelling)> kirjoitti
viestiss√§ news:D 26m6c020c2@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
> news:N_ydnX01Le-DStvfRVn-1g@adelphia.com...
> >
> > "BillL" <billc1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:G%y1e.6342$Ab.1000@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I've recently had a serious HD crash using an external caddy via
> >> Firewire - basically the disc cannot be read though the drive and
> >> partitions can be seen by XP and I'm able to format the drive (if I
> >> wanted to). The drive is a Maxtor 120GB and is over 2 years old -
> >> unfortunately it also contained/contains my holiday photos and mp3
> >> collection (it also failed the night before I was finally going to get
> >> round to backing the drive up onto DVD's!! :o (
> >>
> >> Anyhow I put another drive in the enclosure (brand new Seagate 120 GB)
> >> but just used it the internet cache this time to see if the above
problem
> >> was repeated - it was last night but this time I formatted the drive
and
> >> now using it (via the USB connection).
> >>
> >> Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
> >> *better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> BillL
> >
> >> DISCS
> >> Maxtor DiamondMax 250 GB SATA150 (On nforce4 controller)
> >>
> >> Seagate 120 GB PATA in external Firewire/USB 'ICY BOX' enclosure
> >
> >> OS: WinXP Pro SP2
> >
> > And then he adds...
> > I'm not sure but as the brand new drive had the same problem and is now
> > working via USB (thus far?) I would think its data corruption. I'm going
> > to
> > DL a demo of a some data recovery software and see I can pull anything
of
> > the Maxtor drive. Also niether HDD presented any obvious signs of
imminent
> > failure (e.g. they wern't producing any strange noises or getting very
> > warm).
> >
> > OTOH it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that both the
Maxtor
> > and Seagate could failures could be hardware related.
> >
> > BillL
> >
> >
> > Bill:
> > While it's not "beyond the realms of possibility" that both drives
failed
> > more-or-less simultaneously, needless to say, it's *highly* unlikely.
> >
> > Assuming there's no problem with the connection between your
USB/Firewire
> > external hard drive enclosure and your computer's port(s), it certainly
> > sounds like a defective enclosure, no?
> >
> > I take it you installed the (apparently) defective drive internally, but
> > you couldn't access its contents - is that so? If you haven't done that,
> > it certainly would be advisable to do so. But assuming you have - was
the
> > drive recognized in My Computer/Windows Explorer? What does it show, if
> > anything, in XP's Disk Management utility?
> >
> > I haven't seen that Icy Box unit advertised here in the U.S. I take it
> > that unit is available in the European market. Have you tried to contact
> > the manuf.? I see they're apparently a German outfit -
> > http://www.raidsonic.de/e_index.html
> > (Sales@raidsonic.de). Might be useful to see what they have to say.
> > Anna
> >
>
>
> If I may butt in for a moment, Anna, where is this disk management utility
> located? Thanks.
>
> Ed Cregger
>
>
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
March 29, 2005 12:03:17 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt (More info?)

BillL wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I've recently had a serious HD crash using an external caddy via
> Firewire - basically the disc cannot be read though the drive and
> partitions can be seen by XP and I'm able to format the drive (if I
> wanted to). The drive is a Maxtor 120GB and is over 2 years old -
> unfortunately it also contained/contains my holiday photos and mp3
> collection (it also failed the night before I was finally going to
> get round to backing the drive up onto DVD's!! :o (
>
> Anyhow I put another drive in the enclosure (brand new Seagate 120
> GB) but just used it the internet cache this time to see if the above
> problem was repeated - it was last night but this time I formatted
> the drive and now using it (via the USB connection).
>
> Have I got a faulty enclosure (my guess); a Firewire (USB would be
> *better*?) or a common problem with external enclosures generally?
>
> TIA
>
> BillL
>
> Sys spec/config
> AMD A64 3200+ (Winchester)
> Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI (F6 BIOS)
> 1 GB RAM (2 x 512 MB Crucial Ballistix DIMM's) PC4000
> Leadtek PX6600GT 'Extreme'
> External USB Creative NX2 Sound
> Coolermaster 'Wavemaster'Case
> OCZ 'Powerstream' 520Watt PSU
>
> DISCS
> Maxtor DiamondMax 250 GB SATA150 (On nforce4 controller)
>
> Seagate 120 GB PATA in external Firewire/USB 'ICY BOX' enclosure
>
> Secondary IDE Channel
> Samsung 16x DVD
> NEC 3500A DVDRW
>
> OtherHW
> HP 940C USB Printer
> Epson R300 Photo
> Cannon LiDE30 USB Scanner
> Hauppauge WinTV PCI
>
> OS: WinXP Pro SP2

How is the enclosure powered?

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